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I noticed that as well. Turning HDR definitely gets rid of the haze effect but the blurriness still remains unfortunately. I can't imagine how such a huge title like red dead 2 got HDR and checkerboarding so wrong.

I help them by ending their suffering. Usually by shooting them. In the face. With a shotgun. Then I unburden them of additional weight by helping myself to the contents of their pockets.

Greetings all! I am new here but definitely not new to gaming as I am a cranky 36 year old man. I play RDR2 on my PS4-pro and I needed to change from my 60 inch 4K HDR -tv to my old set that is not bad but still only a 47 inch 1080p tv with no HDR. And the thing is that the game looks way better on my old tv with HDR off and played in 1080p without the “upscale” or what it is called ,option on. So for the game to look good(and it does), I needed to gimp my own equipment and putt all bells and whistles to off. This is is of course not acceptable but it is the only solution as I see it right now. And to be honest, the HDR in this game is way less impressive than other titles that I have played. I would go so far to even say HDR in this game looks in many cases worse than SDR and that is just crazy. I own more or less all the exclusive games made for the PS4 and I also play on a very good gaming PC, i7 8700K with a asus motherboard that automatically or when needed and I have a Asus GTX Strix 1080 and 32gb of ram. So even though I am not a pro when it comes to technical terms and such, I am an avid players and a fan of good games. I even own an XboxoneX but I play it quite reluctantly because I am not a fan of the controllers, so I gave it to my children to use instead. Do not think I am trying to start a flame war here because I am not, the XoneX is a great console but not just my cup of tea. In any event, I can endure this game even without HDR and close to 4K just because I really love the game. Still of course, this is not the kind of stunt that a studio such as Rockstar* should pull on their fans. I will introduce me here as opposed to the “introduction” section just because I need to sleep any minute or I will be too tired for work. As mentioned, I am a cranky 36 year old male from Sweden but married with a woman from Japan. We have produced two small gamers that despite what I tell them are very eager to watch when I play this game. I am lucky that my son and daughter are both very mature and I dare say, intelligent so they can easily see that games like RDR2 is just that, a game. I have studied history and religion and have briefly reached history and religion on a university level. My wife is an interior designer but is thinking of changing career. I love westerns and mostly I love the really gritty ones. Like “True Grit”, “Deadwoos”, “The hateful eight” and of course many more. I have not played that much, I am just starting chapter three and can say that after I swithched to my old tv and played the game in sdr, I have seen none of the frame rate issues people mentions in other threads and my eyes are sensitive to framedrops. But as I explained earlier, I did indeed see the blurry qualities with the visuals and also that the HDR was horrible. I hope to enjoy a long stay here with you fellers if you would let me stay here at the comfy campfire? :-)

Let me get my fingers warmed up...Okay done. First things first, the mission template isn't even that bad. There has been variety of missions that were all different. There is missions where you ride and sneak into areas, and deliver something, there is missions where you steal things without shooting a horde of people, there is missions where you destroy large areas and flea, there is missions where you need to capture someone, there is missions where you contain animal groups and escort them, the list goes on and on... This game is for people who are into the action, shooting, robbing, and stealing, this is a big part of the game, so yeah there will be plenty of shooting run and gun, sh*t hits the fan moments, and you need to hold your ground. Now that I have the "mission template" out of the way... As far as the being close to original Red Dead Redemption complaint, yes this game is a prequel to the original Red Dead game, so the game will feel similar but drastically improves. The motion capture, levels of detail. The movement changed a lot, the horse riding is absolutely insane. The way the horse reacts to uphill riding, and the way your character leans and reacts to the hill and terrain is amazing, and it's crazy how they can motion capture to make it look so realistic in those situations. The game play has a very similar feel to the original game, because it's nostalgic, and big fans of the franchise are so use to that style, and people love the classic Rockstar 3rd person feel. However there is a 1st person option if you feel so inclined. Anyways, the game has took this franchise on a next level of gaming, not just for the franchise, but the entire gaming industry. The level of detail is phenomenal, the graphics are great, the story is great, the game play is great with minor complaints on my end, the voice acting is great, the hunting is on a complete next level for the franchise, and so is the killing effects and gore. Also, I have said this before and I will say it again, bugs occur in every game, PERIOD. There will always be some type of flaw or something wrong in a video game, and especially on this massive of a scale, this game is bound to have bugs. My theory for Rockstar delaying the game has nothing to do with bugs on launch, in my opinion, they were taking their time to much and then deadlines were coming and they had to make a release because they have been inactive of releasing a game for about 5 years now. The game has been out for about a little less than a week, and there will be fixes and updates. Hopefully in the future Rockstar will release a story DLC for us to get and by then they will have all the bugs knocked out so our experience will be THAT much better. However, it could have been a marketing strategy? I'm not sure, it's the worlds greatest mystery apparently. Clothing options wasn't bad in this game, I think it's not relevant to do damage to a score of a game just strictly based on this, especially when it wasn't all that bad. If you ever played the previous title, Grand Theft Auto V, the clothing options for each character was limited and didn't have much to offer than let's say GTA Online did. GTA Online has massive amounts of clothing options because you can personalize your character even more than ever before. In my opinion, I think Rockstar limits the clothes to fit the style and story better, because it's clothes that the character would wear and fit the character during the time of the story and game. For example, in Grand Theft Auto V, Michael wouldn't have the option to wear a snap-back hat with skinny jeans, high tops, designer hoodies in a hip hop style because it simply doesn't fit the character. I think that Rockstar limited the clothing to a certain degree to have the outfits actually fit the character and make sense in the story. When Red Dead Online comes out, I can assure you the clothing options will be far more superior and better than the actual story mode. In conclusion, the game is an easy game of the year in my opinion, it's not everyday you get to play a open world with this much detail, a great story, an awesome hunting experience included, amazing effects and atmosphere, good graphics, amazing nostalgic memories from the previous installment in the franchise, and awesome missions that never got boring with a decent amount of variety while keeping things quiet simple, and just being a bad ass outlaw member with sucking you into the amazing story this game has to offer.

Would of rather we waited another year so they got it right. If your happy with it being blurry why are you here

Welcome! Yeah, RDR2 is an amazing game. I play it at night and about 7 feet away from the tv so the blurriness is not so obvious. I'm really looking forward to the checkerboarding and bluriness fixes. Welcome and let Rockstar know about your issue as well!

It’s simple then isn’t it don’t read this thread 👍🏻 Oh and by the way 23000+ views so the 6 of us have been clicking on here a lot then havnt we 🤣🤣🤫🤫

Here's mine. +3 for story, script, acting +3 for environment / map +2 for graphics +2 for immersion +1 for later missions +2 for crazy good weather and snow effects -3 for crappy mission template (I've explained this before) -2 for being so close to RDR1 in terms of movement, interactions and gameplay, ie not really progressed in 8+ years -1 for bugs (expected but having been delayed to iron them out, the number of bugs is unacceptable) -1 for seriously lacking clothes options My rating: 6/10. My 2 biggest gripes are: 1. The mission template, which again, I've explained before (go to do the thing, thing goes wrong, take cover, kill 100 bad guys, ride off, kill 30 more bad guys on horseback). This was repeated so often it became comical. 2. The oversold interactions. According to IGN and other reviewers, the peds were supposed to live their own lives. Paraphrasing: "The world isn't there for you, it is designed to exist without you even being there." The way they described this was that people would remember you and by chance thank you in the future, etc. We were sold that each ped had some kind of memory and this was almost unscripted, but in actual fact it was nothing like that. There are the same scripted encounters that were in RDR1 (albeit a few more and of differing types), and the only thing that is different is that there is another completely scripted and contrived follow up afterwards. You're walking through a town and oh, look, that guy happens to be sat on a bench outside a gunsmith and he shouts you over. @CMcC you seem to be taking great delight in my tweet to LegacyKillerHD and it does seem to be an unpopular opinion, but as with many unpopular opinions, the counter arguments are usually not particularly objective. I'm looking at this game objectively and this "living, breathing" world that we were promised has fallen way short of the mark. The quality of the expansive map and environment is beyond doubt, but the overall gameplay mechanics are only a small step forward from RDR1, which began development 13 years ago in 2005.

Sometimes it's very hard to tell if it's a random encounter or a small side-mission when you first see someone. I've been pleasantly surprised more than once.

Sad, yet true.

Just pile em up till they fall off. I found a wagon that had oranges in so they took up some room but I bet you could get a load on there. @BropolloCreed79 might be a way of making your corpse wall.

Guys, don't bother contacting Rockstar's tech support. They are utterly useless. And neither can they be expected to offer any solutions. The OnLY way to make Rockstar pay attention to this is to make a noise about it on twitter, reddit, facebook....everywhere you can.

I have the same games and all is looking fine. I´m not talking again with this guys of the support. Someone bigger or the bosses of sony himself must talk with the team. I think a lot of people now that bought a ps4 pro, the flagship of sony think now this is a bad console. I can say no it is a really good console and for me they produce the best games in incredible quality. All exclusive title are real eye candy. THe XBox has nothing on games what reach this level. Ok, now they have RDR2 I must cry. I can´t play the game more as a half hour and i must paused it, because of tears in the eyes.

This is ridiculous, the game is amazing but in my ps4pro I have blur, Rockstar must quickly to launch the patch or I think I will bought a One X... This game needs to be play in perfect conditions!

The exact same issue for me as you guys experiecncing. This has to be fixed, its a disgrace that no one has acknowledge this issue! I've been in contact with Rockstart chat support, they are worthless. Telling me that my TV is an issue, like wut? The issue is not my tv, not my eyes, only RDR2! Everything else works fine, Spider Man, Uncharted, Tomb Raider etc etc

Been Following this thread for a few days now, Decided to contact Rockstar support after they ignored me on twitter. Pointing out their technical flaws with halving the horizontal pixel count on their up scaled checker board technique, which is resulting in this blurred image at a res of 1920x2160. i kindly pointed out equalling both horizontal and vertical pixel counts as spiderman, god of war and horizon zero dawn does would fix this or even sticking a res of 2560x1440 would fix this 10fold and possibly increase performance on frame rate. also asked them to at the very least publicly acknowledge this issue as many people are left wondering what is going on. i aslo attached the image showing the ps4 pro vs Base ps4 to highlight the blur. As for HDR, the box the website and everything else states you can play this with HDR. Surely this is false advertising and can be reported to trading standards. If enough of us do this, trading standards will have to investigate and rockstar will be FORCED to do something about it or compensate the consumer. This could become very very messy for rockstar.

Yes all the time, within 30 minutes my eyes start to hurt can't play it anymore. They have to listen and fix this.

Yes but that’s equivalent of having a Ferrari and putting horse piss in to fuel it

(PS4 Pro - Samsung KS8000) This is the first time I’ve ever went to a message board for a ps4 game. Can’t even describe the disappointment this game has caused me. I kept hoping it was just the foggy snow landscape that I had to squint through on the first hour or so but this game is so blurry, wtf! Particularly mid to far distance as others have stated. The blurriness does resolve itself if you put it on 1080p but it looks so god damn bad from what I’ve become accustomed to in 4K. I’ve literally never seen this on another game and I’ve played just about every major AAA game on PS4. I’ve never even thought of going to a gaming message board before but Red Dead was a heavily influential series in my gaming life and I was expecting this game to be AT LEAST on par with other PS4 pro 4K games. I feel your pain 0ldKen.

No I´m not a cry baby. I respect all that hard work of developpers, but this game is unplayable. If you want destroy the lifecycle of your eyes. It is yours. If you are happy with the game in that status, why you are writing messages or posting in this thread? This thread is for all those that have problems with the unacceptable blur. This game is looking better on the standard ps4. Some gamers buy the PS4 pro bundle for that game.

Told you, we have to make videos.

I like how this thread has 1,000,000 views and an army of people posting, reporting, and generally making noise to get this fixed. MEANWHILE... over at the HDR thread, it's a battle just to convince 4 people that the fact that they shipped 100% fake non-existant HDR is even a PROBLEM. Imagine if you were promised native 4k, or even checkerboarded 4k, then you buy the game, boot it up, and the game's resolution is 1080p with no option to change it. Now imagine that you had to battle with gamers who are ON YOUR SIDE just to convince them that this "issue" is even worth caring about. "I mean, 1080p... 4k... who really cares? You're nitpicking bro." !@#%

Ok, so I wanted to get a discussion on some of the best Western films of all time, and possibly suggestions of ones I have not yet considered. I'm on a marathon of Western films that should last through October in order to pump me up for RDR2. Before the marathon, Tombstone was my favorite, but ever since I watched Once Upon a Time in the West, that is now my favorite. Also, of all the movies, No Country for Old Men is my favorite movie, but I wonder if people consider this a real Western? I think it has all the right elements of a Western, as well as There Will Be Blood. Prior to the marathon, I had already seen: Tombstone The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly Dances With Wolves True Grit (2010) Unforgiven The Magnificent Seven (1960) 3:10 to Yuma (2007) And some arguable neo-Westerns such as: No Country for Old Men The Revenant There Will Be Blood My current marathon has consisted of: Fistful of Dollars A Few More Dollars Stagecoach The Outlaw Josey Wales Once Upon a Time in the West True Grit (1969) The Hateful Eight To be watched: Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid High Noon Rio Bravo The Man Who Shot Liberty Vance The Assassination of Jesse James Pale Rider High Plains Drifter Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnndddddddddd some music!

S, I´m an oldtimer too. 42 years old.

Pretty sure this is how it works: There are two types of consumables, ones that provide permanent effects (white) to your meters and ones that provide temporary effects (yellow). Consider the yellow ones to be like getting the invincibility star in Mario Bros.

I do one before every quest I start. Too many early screwups that were painful.

That's pretty funny but although I havent tried it yet, I would imagine killing horses will lower your character levels - and I wasn't sure if you could still loot saddle bags if you killed the horse, guess I'll give it a try. Christopher Reeves doesn't like horses and I think he won Dancing with the stars last week...

Some arrogant Frenchie was sitting next to me, and he ALWAYS beat me. So I turned his head into a canoe.

Ah, tell me you didn't just go there. Seriously though.... FC5 was a mess IMO. Talk about a game not delivering on expectations for me. They butchered that franchise after FC2. .....ok, ok, I'll calm down now.

9.5 from me and the only reason why it's not a 10 is because of the criminal and bounty system. - Graphics, character interaction, story, music, sound, gun gameplay are all top notch for me - Controls are fine for me and honestly don't know why so many people think they're clunky. - Missions are fine, although I would rather have an interface that shows me Main missions vs Side Missions without me having to go look it up online - Criminal and Bounty system needs work IMO But I still almost gave it a 10/10 because the amount of options, the gameplay, the types of systems they have in place, the graphics, and the immersion outweigh the minor negatives that are in this masterpiece.

I've seen a video of this, absolutely hilarious!! Now if you could of go all Mongo on other people's horses, and knock the horse out....

I did, accidentally. I also fudged a control move meant to feed a second horse, and shot it ... It did not die though, or even buck me, but it made disconcerting noises ...

The cycle should be eased back a bit, imo. There's nothing worse than being on a mission or side quest and losing daylight when you actually want it to spot threats. By the same token, it sucks when you're using the cover of darkness and you lose it as the sun comes up as quickly as it does.

I agree a lot with what @DylBandit had to say. I'd honestly give this game a 9 or a 10. This rating isn't based on expectations or marketing but more about my own experience, a comparison with other games I have played/enjoyed and the value I get (and/or believe I will get out of it in the weeks/months to come). Dylan already echoed a lot of what I was thinking so I won't get into it here. .....and yeah, I get what you are saying about some of the negatives but it simply boils down to a difference of opinion.

Just want to add, that I have ben working on the mechanics of horse controls, and I figured out how to run the horse full speed, you have to keep tapping the x button over and over again, so mac mittens try that and see if that helps?☺️

I am also having issues with blurred imagery and it is pretty bad when moving camera/view around. Jagged edges out of focus in the peripheral. It is enough to cause eye strain. I am on psp4 pro with a 1080p tv. Not even 4k or HDR and still having the same issues it seems. The game is absolutely great and i hate this is happening. I feel confident that Rockstar will have a fix Soon.

Im sorry but i bought a ps4 pro only because of this game, im a pc gamer, i don't know what to do.

Welcome DJBase. come on in! The water is blurry!

I recently built a wall of lawmen corpses inside the bank in St Denis quite accidentally.

The tool is a Godsend. With it, you can basically post anything in-game you like, and only those whom choose to view it will do so. Use it liberally, use it early, use it often. Thank you for championing this cause, @BropolloCreed79

No problem...were good😀

Silver and Gold trophy rewards, I guess, so as to get the Gold Rush accolade. But I could be wrong about them anyway.

I believe it has to do with your reputation....try raising your bar to the good side?☺️

Yes, I think I've had quite enough of R* not acknowledging anything, so I will report this to Trading Standards in the UK. R* tried to make fools of us all advertising a product to have HDR only to give us fake HDR and thinking we would somehow not notice? I hope a lot of people report this to Trading Standards.

I fall between you two. It is game of the year, but it's not 10/10. I love it, but it could have been better - realistically better, not pie in the sky better. It deserves game of the year, it's breath taking. but it isn't perfect, or even 'as good as can be realistically expected for the genre and tech'. It is slightly disappointing. The level of bugs and glitches is too high to be acceptable - I'm not being a perfectionist about this - the level of bugs in this game is 'just too damn high' The control layout is problematic - it could/should have been better. In combination with an over-zealous law/crime system, it leads too easily to annoying unintended over-the-top consequences. This should have been flagged before release, I expect it'll be tweaked, it shouldn't have been such an issue to begin with. The NPC verisimilitude is good, but not great - it was over-hyped. Again: it is GOOD, but it's not GREAT. If I have to see another bounty hunter ride by having the exact same conversation with their captive ... !! And the camp conversations, while awesome, do tend to go round and round. A lot. Let me put it it this way: any game that spawns huge numbers of complaints; that many report as being unplayable; that forces many to delay playing or slow play for patches; that makes people manually save a lot out of fear of unfairly losing hard won items to glitches or accidental loss; that generates worry about loss or non-access to DLC they paid a lot for; where people are regretting buying certain consoles or TVs and are contemplating swapping these just to play - such a game, no matter what their redeeming qualities, simply cannot be 10/10.

I sit too far away to get too much worried about the blur, but what stops me playing several times is the 30fps which is bad on all consoles. In an open world where you want to explore its a nightmare to turn around and have everything around you just blur out. I wish they could give us a performance mode instead of 4K. Difference between 1080 and 4K is so hard to see when viewed from a distance. Performance is everything.

Another Morning in Eastern Europe, without a word from rockstar! what a shame and what disappointment, i stopped playing RDR2 until they fix this game..

Agreed. .....as are the bugs and "issues" as some of the latter have been more opinion of design than broken code IMO. I acknowledge that some are experiencing certain legitimate bugs but I also realize that some of those issues don't affect everyone. That's not a dismissal of legitimate grievances but simply an acceptance that not everyone will share the same view based on their own gameplay experience. IMO / IME, the game has been amazing and worthy of the high reviews. I based that on my own opinion and experience in the game and not that of others.

Welcome! It's not so much reactivity, it's more about how they feel to ride. "Heavy" would be like the Ardennes, where it thumps around corners and is a bit slow to turn. "Race" would describe a nimble horse that you can switch from one direction to the other quickly. I think they are limited, so you can increase them by, say, 3 points, but that's the max you can increase them by. I'm yet to get a full stat horse, put it that way.

Had the same issue with alligator skin. Fixed mine by skinning 2 or more of the same animal. Then go into the satchel and select “discard all”(which only prompts if you have 2 or more of the same skin) like I said this worked for me.