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As expected RDR2 online players are like GTA just killing everyone sadly... I think it would be awesome for R* to put some Role Playing servers in that amazing open world of RDR2! Do you think is that possible to happen on Consoles?!

Could we have a Seniors Mode? I'm 68 years old and my nervous system and 56K modem just cant cope with the 14 year old griefers and the jumpy graphics. A casino on the Wapiti Reservation with a Denny's down the trail and we stay out of your way. Win/win.

Well that's because you're reading Kotaku and Polygon. That's like reading CNN or Fox News for unbiased political coverage. Kotaku is... gross. And Polygon is as irrelevant as a Nintendo Wii. That was a mistake--I selected the wrong post. Your warning has been removed, and I apologize for the inconvenience.

Petition LMAO! SMDH at this entitled generation of spoiled brats.

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What is going on folks. I recognize a good many of my peers and friends from the F13 forum. Look forward to many jokes and debates on this forum.

That's not the holster. .....it's the animation. If anything, the whole idea of "dual-wielding" is unrealistic in itself, not the inclusion of a cross draw holster oriented for the players strong hand. Ever fire and reload an SAA or similar? I own a Blackhawk and I'll tell ya, I wouldn't want to reload that thing in a gunfight. I'd much rather draw a second. It's bad enough with a speed reloader in a modern 629 revolver under pressure. Other than that, I agree that there should be more options in gun belts, holsters and styles to even include shoulder rigs. ....and btw, the whole idea of being able to draw with your left hand from a right hand cross draw holster may not be ideal but is certainly not "unrealistic". I don't care for the dual-wielding action but I have no problem with idea of being able to draw with the opposite hand from this style of holster.

Well, I just logged on to set up my character and get through some of the tutorial in online mode. The first mission where you steal horses forced me into a matchmaking session although the mission stated that it was 1-4 players. First, no one is on mic. Second, one of the players takes my horse so then I have to run to his horse so I can catch up to everyone who has no left me in the dust. I arrive at location and it's every man for himself. Two of the players grab horses and run off. I stay behind to help cover the third player who was having a rough go of it. Anyhow, he finally gets on a horse but then passes me up and I'm left in the rear. We get pounced on by pursuers and then I'm left alone trying to fight them off. Luckily, the guy I stayed behind for decided to help me out so we continued to cover each other as we fought our way to the final destination. This is exactly why I hate playing with randoms and prefer sessions with just friends or by myself. If your random coop partners treat you like this in RDO, how can anyone think that a free-for-all mode like the current RDO PvP design would not turn into a GTAO troll-fest? Seems to me a lot of the bad habits in GTAO are finding their way into RDO. ......but as long as R* implements the session options like I think the will, I'll be happy.

If RDRO stays as is, that's all who will be left playing it, Trolls & Griefers. There needs to be a heavier Justice penalty system put into play to keep the open world grieffing at bay. Such as the bounty system... in the offline part of the game just looking at someone the wrong way can net you a $100.00 bounty... same thing for online, you kill, anyone, you start at $100.00 bounty, each kill adds up, the higher the bounty the more Bounty hunters come after you... If captured they throw you in jail to work off your bounty, Each $100.00 is one hour of siting in jail. a time out for PvP'ers.

You can catch it again, but you will have to wait a day or so and probably leave the area and come back later to try again.

I'd be okay with them functioning like they do in single player, where they flash when you have gunfire, or can actually see a rival gang member.

I think your right it's ****t up like this, its impossible to play normal in the game if you don't whane kill others. Maybey they need to put that trigger happy ppl in 1 server then they kill eatch other.

This idea that somehow RDO PvP is going to have some sort of organic feel to the PvP is a pipe dream IMO. If RDO were to remain as is, it would still turn into a toxic cesspool of players with a shoot first attitude. Activities would constantly be interrupted by griefers, trolls, etc. This idea that everyone would be too busy trying to make a living in PvP because there are no friend/solo modes is rubbish IMO. GTAO didn't allow players to own most of the profitable businesses without being in a PvP session so throw that argument out the window. The fact is that trolls and griefers will always exist and the current format of RDO will not deter them. Either way, I don't see a problem with R* introducing a solo or "friends only" option for sessions like they had in GTAO. If they want to encourage people to perform activities in PvP mode, then provide bigger payouts for the activities in those sessions. The only way I would be interested in PvP for the long haul is if they got rid of the silly radar tracking (make it proximity based) and did more to encourage cooperative gameplay. In the end, I am confident that alternative modes will be introduced at some point since they were already in GTAO. Also, the leak back in October from R* Intel seemed to confirm that private and "seamless PvE" sessions would also be available at some point when they dug through the code. As the BETA progresses, I am sure more news of this will emerge. In the meantime, I will submit my suggestions and encourage others to do the same. ......regardless of what those may be. Make your voices heard.

Removing the blips would solve the problem. You can't troll me if you can't find me... It's one simple change that would allow them to keep ALL players together and satisfied.

Sounds good to me.. I don't see how its terrible at all. Thats the way it should be. My attitude is Bring it on.. The whole reason i would be playing Hardcore mode is because people may attack me. At least there would be no auto aim. Im more worried about auto aim at the moment than actual players. I don't consider auto aim pvp... Its a huge nuisance for me. If people want to grind in pve who cares? People can grind in PVP too. Hell, theres specific pvp modes just to grind in. Besides.. R* is adding GOLD BARS to buy via real money. People can have more than you even if you grind all day long and they only played for 5 mins. Im just wondering.. but did you play RDR multiplayer?

I encourage you folks to submit your requests to R*. I too hope that we get more co-op / friends options in the near future at least like we have in GTAO. However, I also understand that this is a BETA and I can understand why they may have chosen to go with a PvP-only mode for now while they stress test the servers, etc. I have hope that these other modes will arrive at least by final release since GTAO included them. While PvP is more popular, I think they can recognize that some prefer to just play with friends sometimes or themselves. Personally, I'm going to submit my suggestions and give it some time to see where R* goes with RDO. I'll only play RDO with friends until then and may even stop at some point (if I find it too toxic) and go on to something else while the game is being worked on. https://www.rockstargames.com/reddeadredemption2/online/feedback

Have to agree with original poster,.... It seems that R* still has not learned that mixing open world PvE mixed in with the PvP and giving missions that are on a timer, or any mission that can be interrupted by a PvP'er just dose not work. My husband & I just finished the tutorial and got into the open world where we can group up. I latterly took five steps into the game, when a snot nosed murderous child who was already level 20 one shot head shot me, I was level 2 or 3 or something. So ya how is that a good PvP? A high level already spawn camping the newbie zone? Just like in GTA5! Problem #2 Ok so I was warm welcomed into how RDR2 O was going to be. I play GTA5 so I'm use to the Snot Nosed Kiddies, There is always a work around to stay out of PvP, Mostly get a massive guild and take over the server kill anyone who is not in your Clan... Or in this case Posse. With a cap of 7 people in a guild it looks like we cant do that anymore, so going to have to make several Groups of friends with Posses and some how link up as allies to take control of a server. I hate feeling like I have to constantly be a bad Lady and just kill anyone who is not on my friends list. But If you do not shoot the first person you see and have a big gang with you killing every red dot on the map until they leave the server you might as well not play any R* game. R* Forces you to play offensively.... Kill or be Killed, I Hate the feeling, I hate PvP, Its not in my nature to go around randomly killing everyone I see just because I'm afraid that if I don't kill them, they will kill me the first chance they get. I like RDR2, best graphics and game play I've seen in a new game... R* did that right. What I hate is trying to pick up a mission and I get shot in the back of the head, trying to finish a mission and get gang R.a.p.e.d all the way to the finish...…. If you can get it in before the timer runs out... Really R*, Timed missions "AGAIN"! in a PvP open world, NO...Just No! take the timers out of the missions. BIG #3 problem, How in the hell are these PvP'er phasing in and out? We had a group attacking us and they could one shot us, There is two of us right now so if I don't get you My Husband will,... But we have noticed that these players will one shot you, then go into a shadow form where they are immune to attack back, you can shoot them, but your bullets will go right through them, you cant fist fight or stab them ether, WTF is that? Are they cheating already, Is it a Lag switch? Is it a speed hack? What the heck are they doing to become immune to damage? #4 when you go into a cut seen apparently you can still be killed even though you are stuck in a cut seen and can not defend your self? We are following our main mission so we can unlock our items and level up, But at Blackwater you get that long cut seen, I could not get it to complete so that I can move on to the next mission as every time I get half way through it some snot nosed murderous child kills me! WTF R*!! ?? Any cut seen should make you immune to PvP. With that said I think R* did something right... I've noticed that when you go into a catalog you do phase out of the world.. Why did R* not apply this to every cut seem, and missions ? When you do a Side mission you should be out of PvP and immune to attacks !! Lets hope that R* will have invite only private servers one day that you can play in peace, I like PvP when in the mood, But mostly I like to enjoy the PvE aspects of a game... My husband & I work long hours and sometimes only get 2 hours of game play in, I do not want to have to spend most of that time in PvP when all I want to do that day is get some main story missions, and some side quest in! In Conclusion; Have an option to flag your self on or off of PvP for a session. then you are stuck in that mode until you log off and re-choose what style of play session you want to do, PvP/PvE- In this way everyone wins! Those of us who want to do the PvE and missions can do so in peace, Those that want to PvP can fight other PvP'ers as they wish, everyone is happy. …. well except the Snot Nosed Murderous Children who like to go after low levels because that's all they can kill due to having no skills fighting someone of same levels. Ether a flag system or complete separation of PvP'ers from PvE'er, each play styles will have their own dedicated server. You choose to go on a full PvP… or PvE server at the start of your session. Or Invite only private server.... But not like GTA5 where you can't do any missions... have full game missions on a private server... That's it... Thanks for reading. See ya in game Cowboy's & CowGirls !

I don't even have an issue with people ganking me (because it's SOOOOOOOO impressive when four guys ambush a solo player, that's some 1337 skills, right there) but this notion that everyone is viewable on the map constantly is nonsense. Even The Division learned from that mistake with their PvP area, the Dark Zone. Hopefully, R* takes note. It's 1899. Nobody is carrying a cellphone for the government to track. There aren't any spy satellites. And there's no surveillance equipment, apart from people's eyes, o I would think that unless people are in your field of vision, or part of your party, it would make more sense for them to not appear on the map or minimap unless they're making enough noise to be heard (like gunfire or dynamite).

Sadly from now on the online content will be the only thing R* focuses on. And that is very sad since I feel the RDR2 online feels just like GTAV online, why the hell can we see all other players on the map at all times!? Anyway, the graphics is what it is and I do not anticipate that there will be any changes to that.

Jameson! I wouldn't say it adds another layer... It would add a few minutes (probably less) of cartoon sex. That's just fluff content, like the fact you can punch your horse and have it launch you off a bridge. Yeah, it's there for those that want to do it ( @BropolloCreed79) but it really adds nothing productive to the game. (As stated) I wouldn't have a problem with it, I just don't see the point of adding fluff content that limits the number of people that would buy the game. That's a dumb decision for any game (in my opinion).

It doesn't fix any of the issues discussed here. PS4 Pro is still blurry. HDR is still broken. The only perceivable thing they fixed is the disappearing NPCs at camp. And since R* clearly couldn't wait to get Online going, I guess these things will never get fixed now.

Almost 100,000 views... a month later... not even a confirmation that they really acknowledge the problem. wish they would just say that it can’t be fixed so I could stop checking this thread every single day....

not really sure how someone can play this online with the existing blur, depth of field issues. I mean it's sometimes really difficult borderline impossible to see the enemies in the distance. How it is gonna play out is beyond me. I guess we shall see. on a different note, if this was UBISOFT or EA, imagine the amount of poop they would have gotten from public and media but R* are somehow getting away with it. talk about enchantment.

Here is mine!

Did you just imply that there's a "right" and "wrong" way to equip a holster? I'll have you know my holster is non-binary, and should be able to use whichever restroom it identifies with.

It's not a lot if everyone does their part. Did nobody learn from Dutch during the first few chapters? 🤣

holy hell, i never noticed that! If it were purple holsters I'd be in.

You are 100% spot on. The bounty system should be the same for online as it is for story. This is what they promised us was going to happen, so hopefully they come through.

I shouldn't be forced to grind the same game twice just because my friends and I want to pvp once in a while.

Some people say FA is about skill. For me.. its mostly about the ability to dodge bullets easier. In AA.. 90% of the time. People are going land the 1st shot they lock on. In FA.. players might have to take 3 or 4 shots before landing one shot.

Dude, it's a game... You're playing a game. There's nothing "honorable" about that...

Also this is an unofficial fan forum. Good luck getting Rockstar to change anything, specially from here

if you crouch, your icon goes off on the radar..

Depends how it was added. I was referring to full sex, not "fade to black" like you suggested. If it changes the rating, it would change the number of people willing to buy it. Many parents are fine with buying an M rated game for their kids, they might be put off by an AO rating. I don't feel it adds enough to the game to be worth it. That's my opinion. I don't have a problem with it, I just don't think it's that important and don't understand why so many people care so much about this one little thing. How often would you go visit a prostitute in the game? Once? Twice? Is that worth the time and money to add?

Rdr2 just got a patch but I'm at work any word if it fixes ps4 issues or gives us the option to turn off post procceing effects?

Guys, you can customize things. you select a preset for head, then a preset for eyes. If you press X, you can change eyebrows and eyes in deferent ways. It’s like that for almost everything. press X and further customize that part. teeth still rotten though.

For me Witcher 3 on Ps4 pro have same bad sharp, but less TAA - what make RDR2 look more blurred Here real 4K, so it defenatly 1920*2160 issue

Bizarre ... Maybe inthe future you can pay for a 'good looking' DLC?

For me the same, but i realize the taa is off. You can see that on the foliage. But now you relize much more the stupid motion blur filter. Depth of field looks a bit better in the distance, but the headache effect is in the game, no fix for the stoopid motion blur and infected checkerboard rendering. Wow the detaillevel in cutscenes is now really impressive, Fake HDR is not fixed. I don´t know it is a placebo but it looks mor colourful to me, but not like real hdr. Edit: Hey Ross101 can you post some pictures? I will look on weekend for posting new video for comparison, but is definitely a bit better, I´m sure Edit: wait again. horseriding is unplayable for me. I hope one day they put a motion blur turn off button in the game. It is the stupid motion blur, that kills the experience for me. Witcher 3 has real agressive motion blur too, but you can turn it off.

Updated the game to 1.03 on PS4 Pro. Blur issue is NOT fixed. HDR is NOT fixed. Thanks bunches, R*. The Online component of the game is out and this is all R* will focus on from now on.

Just jumped on after downloading the patch no difference nothing done what so ever (I have a pro) that was their chance and they didn’t fix it it’s over

I refuse to read on from there... It deserves no more than a 2.0

When I started playing RDR2 I was overwhelmed. It's such a huge game with tons of interesting things to do. I found myself early on searching the web for info on various things, mainly for crafting and what animals are used for each type of crafting; satchels, camp upgrades, Trapper etc. I lost track of what I was doing many many times and decided to put everything into one Excel file so I could track my progress in one place. The sources in the file are from all over the web. I hope it's ok to post this here, if not please delete this post mods. Just wanted to share this if anyone else who has Excel likes to have a handy checklist on their laptop while playing RDR2. The checklist/guide includes: Story Missions (with links to IGN walkthrough) Stranger Missions (with links to walkthrough and a checklist) Challenges (Checklist) Animals (Every Animal type, best weapons etc.) Satchel Upgrades (Checklist) Camp Upgrade (Checklist) Talismans (Checklist) Trinkets (Checklist) Trapper Outfit Sets (Checklist) Legendary Animals (Checklist) Located on Google Drive for download: RDR2 Checklist/Guide Thanks mister!

Having bewbs for titillation is no more odd than having slo-mo head shots for 'coolness'. It's just another aesthetic pleasure, hence why art galleries are filled with nudies. And to be fair, it would add a degree of realism and immersion to a game aiming for such. I mean, my horse takes a dump ...

That's funny, and oddly plausible

Here, this ought to brighten your day. Just happens to coincide with RDR2s launch.......

I'm glad I made this thread. Before on these forms everyone was almost exclusively passive or outright anti-sex in RDR2. Now after this thread at least I know I'm not alone in feeling let down. The sheer number of people in this thread alone who feel the same is actually pretty cool. Like I said before, great game, easily the best story I've ever seen. That being said, that doesn't mean we as fans should just ignore the things we feel it lacks. If we don't speak out the creators of these games will never know what we're thinking.

After the whole "Coffee" incident with GTA San Andreas. I can see why they wouldn't. I can see your point, but as I said in another thread. To me it isn't needed for the game. I won't say Rockstar is a family friendly, but with our society being as sensitive as is about this kind of topic. I am sure that is a fight they don't want to have.

I prefer sex, money, and rock and roll myself. Did they get a parent of the year award for that? I wish that was a thing you could actually mail someone for doing something incredibly stupid with a kid.

I played those games for the articles. **could not** If I want to ride side-saddle with no pants on in the game, that's MY buisness. Make it a mini-game: a chance for a temporary stat boost as a result, but with the randomized chance to get chlamydia and slowly die unless you get some penicillin from the doc. I have to love how relationships and sex are taboo in a game with indiscriminate violence and killing. You can shoot someone in the face and watch geysers of blood wash all over the place, but show a pixelated boob, and everyone clutches their pearls.