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Not sure about a separate game, but I'd buy it as dlc. I'd much rather play a "modern" version of it than the 360 version.

And they're running out of time. People aren't willing to wait around while R* swims in their pile of money like Scrooge McDuck in his money bin while the online continues to be a half-baked beta.

Hey all! Figured we could do with a post for pictures of posses? It's always fun to pose with the gang and look cool! This is some of our posse, the Black Hats. Our camp was in the swamp, and one morning, before setting off, we took a photo! How about everyone else? Posse photos to share?

It's like downloading a music album and finding a message saying tracks 6 to 8 will be sent to you once we've made them 🤐

No not yet, at least not to my knowledge. Rumors are circling that more lobbies are the plan, but I haven't heard that from any source that I would totally support. It's just rumors. Those rumors are sounding like we get about the same options as we had in GTAO. Again, just rumors and nothing concrete.

From what i understand, it's simply a personal option just like the sensitivity settings for auto aim, FPV vs. TPV, etc. Everyone gets put into the same generic Free Roam session regardless of what their settings are.

I agree with some of it.. But how exactly does R* control griefing? What exactly is the actual act griefing? Killing players when they don't want to be killed.. is what most people would consider griefing. Can only be solved by invite only or friendly lobbies. R* could make it more difficult to locate players and add more butchers to the map...

Hi Spiteful and welcome. A couple things..... First, I wanted to let you know that RDR2.org is not affiliated with Rockstar or Take Two Interactive. This is a fan site, so when you say "your game", it isn't really our game. Having said that, I will provide a link below where you can contact R* directly with your feedback: https://www.rockstargames.com/reddeadredemption2/online/feedback?step=f2e50892 Please note that there is a 500 character limit when providing feedback so you'll likely need to submit your suggestions piecemeal. Either way, there's no problem in sharing these ideas for discussion with fellow community members and in fact, participation is encouraged. I just wanted to make sure you knew that what you post here won't necessarily reach R*. You'll have to go through their feedback site to ensure that. ....and the more of us that do, the more likely it will be that these ideas can become reality.

I run with a posse sometimes, but this is the core of the group and the ones who matter. myself and bunny.

You're more than welcome. I havent played with many in the group but it's simply a resource that can be used to try and gather more friends so there is a better opportunity to find folks online when you play. Feel free to use it to try and form a regular posse, etc. I figure, the more people we get on board, the better chances folks have with finding players to join.

They should also make it to where we can sell them to crypt, he needs a real function in this game. Make him more like Pearson in SP.

Griefing is thrown around because it applies so easily to RDO. Player A is participating and one one thing and Player B comes along and decides that they have to step in and disrupt the fun of the other, cause that is the only way for Player B to have fun. It is part of the thorn in the side of PvEvP format.

I don't want to "learn" anything. I want to go full on Janet Reno and firebomb some fools.

I made these a while back, work of art! Lost my passion recently though, lately it's just been TV dinners. Really need to get my act together I guess.

The FPGL Posse

I know I'd like to see some changes made to the avoiding/diving. Nothing more frustrating than players diving all over the place like an epileptic dolphin half a dozen times then popping off a headshot before doing it all over again! Maybe it should expend half the stamina bar each dive and then half the accuracy for a short time which would be a little more realistic?

This quote is from my GTAforums page. not meant for self promotion. Made for awesome conversation!

I try and spend most of my time up north, away from the crowds and griefers. But, I am forced to travel all the way down the map to sell my pelts. Annesburg would be an ideal spot for a butcher location to allow people to stay in the general locations that they want to hunt in. Any where else that would help?

So - I feel like: Since R* already has the complete map made for the current generation of consoles Since R* already has all the voice overs from the previous game Since people are completely in love with RDR2 and want more --it's a no-brainer to re-build the original Red Dead Redemption using the RDR2 map. I mentioned above they even have all the voice overs recorded and ready to go, and they already have a full, updated map ready to go. Wouldn't it be relatively easy (and make Rockstar lots of cashola) to make it happen?? I'D buy it again . . .

ALLOW ME TO INTRODUCE MYSELF. MY ONLINE NAME IS SPITEFUL ON PSN IM A OG PLAYER AT THAT .....AND IM ALSO A GRAPHIC DESIGNER. THIS GAME WE ALL KNOW NEEDS HELP SO HERE IS SOMETHINGS YOU SHOULD DEF CONSIDER FIXING AND ADDING TO HELP MAKE THIS GAME GROW IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. KEEP IN MIND MOST OF US PLAYING THIS GAME WE ALL MADE A CHOICE TO LEAVE THE GAMES WE PLAYED B4 TO PLAY THIS GAME BECAUSE IT HAS POTENTIAL. SPITEFULS IDEA TO FIX THIS GAME HEADING TO THE RIGHT PATH TO KEEP PLAYERS HAPPY. 1) AUTO AIM MUST GO............................... ! PLAIN AND SIMPLE THERE IS NO SKILL IN AUTO AIM. esp in pvp game modes. 2) GRIEFING NEEDS to be controlled in some way. 3) CREATE daily activities . Example kill 10 deer to get a reward , taim 2 horses and sell them for a cash reward. and blah blah blah you get the idea. 4) CREATE MORE STRANGER MISSIONS AND ONCE YOUR DONE THEY DONT RENEW TILL THE WEEK IS OVER TILL RESET. 5) NEW GAME MODES : CAPTURE THE FLAG GAME MODE 12 v 12 mode where 3 teams for 4 can join in on one map making the playing field even on both sides and two main capture points in the middle to control the map in spawning in. you can stay back and defend the base and flag while offence players go after the flag. and try to return it. if you get 3 kills you can turn in them points in your stable to unlock your horse to use. if you get 5 kills streak you unlock a stage couch to carry more members across the map faster ......10 kill streak you unlock stage coach with a gun on the back. and very important who ever captures the flag they can do nothing but only hold the flag and run or drop it and defend it. NORMAL TEAM DEATHMATCH GAME MODE :......................... ..........on a mid size map. 8 v 8 is fine size for this game mode. again no auto aim will make this game extremely fun. and for dead eye. every 3 kills your dead eye goes up creating like a special... GUN RUSH GAME MODE: ........................................................... TO FIX THIS OPEN THE MAP ON A WHOLE DIF LOBBY AND LET A TRAIN TRAVEL THE MAP VERY FAST SO PLAYERS CAN JUMP OFF AND AS THE CIRCLE CLOSES IN FROM DIF LOCATIONS. 100 PEOPLE ON THE TRAIN. LAST PERSON ALIVE GETS GOLD AND XP. OR SQUAD 4 TEAMS SAME IDEA RACING GAME MODE: ...........................................this is just fine dont need to fix anything just add new maps and locations. 6) Players getting kick from games NEEDS TO BE FIXED ALSO ASAP.............................

I would urge you to use the in-game "report" feature. There is one description that covers abusive / racist language. That (I believe) gets reported to Rockstar. I would also encourage you to go to the player's profile (there is an in-game link) so you can block them. .....that takes you to their profile within the PSN. This will also stop any continued harassment outside of the game but if someone is dumb enough to message you using the PSN feature before you are able to block them, then report them to Sony right away. They will see the message as proof of harassment, language, etc. and will take action. Other than that, I would suggest muting everyone except those in your own posse if it's overwhelming.

I am joking. No you didn't spoil it for me. Edit: Just to be funny, sometimes I do go into a thread that states SPOILER and freak out like they told everyone a big secret.

Yea, that sounds about right. And yes, they really leave us in the dark when it comes to game mechanics. A little more info would go a long way,

Same here (PS Plus) I am checking from my console in the PS4 menu. These are people listed in my blocked list. ....the list you get to by pressing [options] and then "blocked players". When I select a player from the list, the next screen shows an option to "unblock" that person. btw, I see a couple players I just blocked the other day so I know it's still adding new ones.

I voted yes but I guess it depends on what they would deliver in a remastered version. Hell, I bought GTAV again when they ported it over to PS4 but even with the graphics upgrade and the population increase, etc., it was essentially based on the same foundation they had from PS3 in regard to the mechanics, etc. I guess the thing with GTAV was that it came out early enough in the PS4s life cycle that it still felt like an upgrade. If GTA6 was already out and they released a remaster of GTAV, I wouldn;t ever bought a PS4 copy of GTAV. IMO, R* missed a golden opportunity to make RDR1 a remaster before RDR2s release. If you would have asked me this question months before RDR2 hit the shelves, I could tell you with 100% certainty that I would have bought it.

Great topic, and fantastic post from the OP! THIS POST CONTAINS SPOILERS! I'm going to cover 2 things: the potential love interest, and the link between Arthur and John. Having just completed the game, I can now view every thing in hindsight. For me, personally, I would always talk to Sadie in camp, hoping for some sort of romantic spark to happen. It's plainly clear that for most of the game Sadie is grieving for her husband, and thus any romance would be extremely slow to blossom. It just felt natural to me that Arthur would be attracted to her. She's a good looking lady, with a fiery spirit, just the kind Arthur could respect, and desire. He is one of the 3 who rescues her at the start of the game. As the story progresses, Arthur and Sadie seem almost like a reflection of one another: tough, loyal, and willing to do bad things although with a higher moral code to try to do the right thing. They seem "right" together, and eventually do a lot of missions as the gang splits, essentially replacing Dutch's role as the "honourable outlaws". They work together closely, and as others have stated, Sadie is the only one who shows any real commitment to, and compassion for Arthur. You can see plenty of scope for missing dialogue/scenes/missions, where Arthur and Sadie spend time together discussing the changing dynamics of the gang, planning how to move forward etc. Obviously both are aware that Arthur is terminally ill, and this is a core feature of the overall story as Arthur strives for redemption in the face of his looming mortality. It would be kinda messy trying to have a non sexual romance with a TB sufferer who is dying, and the potential for it to get awkward, and seem contrived is probably the reason it was left out - as well as potentially getting too "tugging on the heart strings", which wouldn't really fit with the overall game. So for me, in terms of her inherent attractiveness, how I as a player felt it natural for him to like her and vice versa, her growing character which reflects that of Arthur, number of missions they do together, and her genuine compassion for Arthur, Sadie was definitely the love interest. Charlotte: Arthur meets Charlotte when he is trying to make up for some of his wrongs, as he reflects on his life and comes to see that much of what he has done, with his misplaced loyalty to his gang (adopted family), has been evil. Charlotte is vulnerable, and Arthur adopts an older brother/father type figure in giving her the tools and confidence she needs to survive on her own. For me this was a self-contained redemption storyline and nothing more. Eliza: During a dialogue option with Rain Falls, Arthur mentions that he had a son with a young woman, but also mentions that both were killed, so there is no possibility that she was the 2nd love. Arthur, John, Abigail, and Jack - it's clear that Abigail was a working girl, as there is dialogue between Miss Grimshaw and Abigail in camp, where Abigail states that she will not work, because she "doesn't do that any more". All of the girls (except maybe Mary Beth who is new to the gang) are working girls, and Grimshaw is clearly the madam. Throughout this game, and RDR1, Abigail and John have a strained relationship. There is little warmth between them, although it's pretty clear that John does love her - you always get this awkward sense between them, like something unspoken; the sort of post-affair type of relationship, where you're together but it will never be the same again. @YodaMan 3Dmade an excellent observation, which I noticed at the time but had forgotten: when Abigail says to Arthur "you should really spend some time with Jack". This is phrased in such a way as to imply, Arthur is the father and SHOULD spend some time with his son. Almost as if he has a sense of duty to fulfil. This would also make sense of why John left the gang for about a year: if he felt, or Abigail told him, that Jack was not his, he may have freaked out and needed to get away to clear his head. Jack doesn't really seem to like John, and although John does make an effort at times, again it's always awkward; like they both know somehow that John is not the dad (Jack subconsciously, John consciously), but they sort of get along with things because this is the situation they are in, so they just go along with it (much like Abigail and John). John is clearly not that bright. Both Arthur and Jack enjoy reading, and writing (Arthur keeps a detailed journal, picks up and can read books throughout the game, Jack always has his head buried in a book). Jack seems more like Arthur, than John in this respect. Finally, in the epilogue, Jack is reading a story about King Arthur, and John gives him the assumed name Lancelot to hide his true identity. I just found that an interesting aside. Thanks for reading, I enjoy discussions like this, cheers!

No problem..... I'm from the U.S. (PST) btw. If I'm on, it's usually during the evening hours. Feel free to send me an invite or join up if you see me playing.

...by the way. I forgot to mention but a chunk of the folks in this group are from the UK and other parts of the world as well. I believe some of our friends from across the pond have joined up together through the group. I occasionally play with someone from Hong Kong (they speak English).

For any people blocking griefers, I apologize for not posting this sooner. I discovered this early last week. PSN only allows you to block 50 people. Well, me any way. I contacted Sony thru chat and by phone to verify this. If you've added over 50, you can verify this by trying to add a person and then checking your list of Blocked Players under Friends. I thought I've been adding people for awhile now--but they really weren't being added. I've suggested to Sony that with about 95M PS4 owners, they've got to figure there are more than 50 griefers online out here. I was told in both cases that this would be brought up as a PSN player suggestion at the next meeting. Still hoping for separate PvE and PvP servers for Red Dead Redemption Online.

I'll lone wolf it if none of my other posse members are on when I am. I won't posse up with randoms even though I constantly get invites to do so.

I deliberately target posses.

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Lone Wolves have nothing on a Wolf Pack... But I do enjoy lone wolfing, as it means more people will attack me. Really wish R* would stop with the damn battle royal modes. I would love 4 vs 4.. or 8 vs 8 game modes. Game modes where I PICK to play them and I can play it. Why the hell does Gun Rush get its own game mode? ..

Nah honor has suffered cause I keep riding in town and knocking people over. Not the smartest...

I feel the same way about playing RDO. I need to give it more time once RS starts adding more to do in it. The story you attached was fascinating and I never knew that angle of the demise of Butch Cassidy and Sundance Kid. Thanks for sharing.

I did the same thing on my last mass murder spree. A couple of players were trying to get to me on the rooftops of Saint Denis along with a swarm of lawmen. In addition to getting picked off the rooftop ladder, they got a few sticks of dynamite dropped on their head for their troubles. You mess with the bull, you get the horns.

Hopefully in a future update they'll bring the trapper over to online. That would be great since there is one up around that area in SP.

Which is why we shouldn't be talking about skill in regards to shooting.

More than once, I’ve rescued someone from bad guys, only to end up trampling the person I’m supposed to be rescuing...

I have no experience with them honestly but you contacted Rockstar about the issue so you did the right thing. The BBB can easily be paid off so using that as a threat, they likely won't give a rat's ass. Hopefully, they fix the issue you are having. I know how frustrating it can be to buy something and it not work but I have heard of others saying similar things about the pamphlets so give them time and if nothing comes of it, contact customer support and ask for a refund.

Dammitt, beat me to it.

Sorry for reading over it.

When someone enters my camp that I don't know (Not just passing through but actually loitering) I drop a stick of Dynamite at their feet and watch them get blown to hell. Just make sure you're far enough away to not get caught in the blast as well. Sometimes it will kill them, sometimes it won't. Not sure what the difference is. Either way though, it makes them leave.

I think it's the same regardless of the level. If you're on or around your horse a lot and have multiple hats, it works great. Hell you can pick up someone else's hat and use it too.

Now need for vanity items if I'm not allowed to use them, but the whole disarming myself prior to be armed or my horse working against me and not with me is becoming more of an issue. What's the use of building up a level 4 bond, when I got a better response from it when it was a level 1. This weekend it was just the little issues getting worse that was bugging me. Not enough additions or fixings being done.

Ahhhh I have the perfect ammo for that nonsense EXPLOSIVE EXPRESS ROUNDS! Had a griefer who attacked me yesterday. Thanks to my "never without one" tier 3 ability card the head shot just blew my hat off. I spun round BLAM! Roared my bolt action rifle, one shot, griefer dead. Griefer tried again, this time diving around like a professional soccer player trying to milk a penalty. BOOM! Roared my bolt action once more. Griefer dead. Then I chased this idiot and laughed watching him diving this way and that before I killed him again.

Make sure you're telling Rockstar how you feel: https://www.rockstargames.com/reddeadredemption2/online/feedback?step=f2e50892

I would like to remind everyone to keep the discussion civil. We can still share our opinions / suggestions without the insults and bad attitudes.