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Proximity-Based Player Blips, Parley Changes with quicker access to Feuding, Law and Bounty Improvements to discourage griefing while introducing a new Freeroam dynamic between bounty hunters and criminal rogues
I don't know how many folks may have missed this in R*s latest beta status update (I've mentioned it before) but I think it's really interesting.
This new "dynamic" sounds like a potentially great opportunity for everyone as it seems players might have a chance to take an active role in being on the side of the law or as "rogues". There's a level of accountability to indiscriminate killing while adding a potentially new and fun aspect to the gameplay. The only people who may not like it are some of the griefers taking advantage of easy targets but I can see how others might welcome the new challenge and chance to role play.
If folks could just set aside for a moment trying to define what RDO is (e.g. PvE, PvP, PvPvE, FFA), take a step back and see what R* has said is coming down the pike, I think it's obvious that they don't want to eliminate the adversarial aspect of the gameplay but simply try and help mitigate some of the griefing taking place. .....in other words, balance (which is really all that some of us have been asking for). In the end, we could end up with new and interesting aspects to the gameplay that benefit everyone.
Let's see how it shakes out first.
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Sounds like a good idea to me. It's a positive subject too.
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2 hours ago, redscrew said:
Do you think we should maybe make a thread for clothing customization ideas and requests and send the link to Rockstar? Someone I talk to on another forum did this for some requests they had with the game. I don't know if it would be worth it or not.
I have no idea if it will help but if you think it will then go ahead, create the thread. You can submit the link through their feedback site.
I'd still encourage folks to submit their own individual ideas as well though.
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30 minutes ago, DutchVanDerLinde said:
My xbox name is DuchVanDerLinde and my character in rdr2 looks fairly similar to Dutch. I was hoping that after the beta you could go to your qardrobe and when you click modify, you add the pocket watch to your vest if you spend 1 gold in general store. Please add this.
Hi Dutch,
First, welcome to the forums.
Now that is out of the way, please realize that RDR2.org is an RDR fansite and not an official forum for R* or T2. We can't add anything to the game.
If you would like to provide suggestions, submit bug reports, etc. to R*, I would suggest the following link:
https://www.rockstargames.com/reddeadredemption2/online/feedback?step=f2e50892
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First things first.... Hi Bullets and welcome to the forum.
Just to clarify, RDR2.org is a fan site and not affiliated with R*. Something obviously doesn't sound right in your scenario and I would urge you to submit a bug report to R* directly through the link below:
Having said that, I personally haven't heard of this issue but maybe someone else has and found a way to work around it.
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2 hours ago, BropolloCreed79 said:
It'd one thing if I was guaranteed that anything I spent my gold on would be retained, but if I decide to, say, delete my character, everything I paid for in gold is GONE.
That's a problem for me. I'm not keen on renting digital clothing for my character.
That right there is definitely a problem and one I agree shouldn't be handled that way if that's the case. GB purchases should be retained on the account. It might be one thing if the items become locked again on a new lvl 0 character until a certain rank but even then that's not cool in my book. ....but we're talking about items that disappear for good? Definitely no bueno...
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I never bought a Shark Card in GTAO and will likely never buy a Gold Bar in RDO.
Having said that, it's not due my disapproval of R*s MTX system. It's quite the opposite view in fact as I realize that these systems are what drive the R* GaaS business model and help will deliver content in RDO over the coming years for all of us.
I guess I just never felt the need for the shortcut in these games and in the case with GBs (where the only items locked behind them are essentially all cosmetic), I doubt I'll want to spend cash for a fancy outfit, unique horse color, etc.
......but if that what floats others boats, I'm all for it and darn glad they do find value in such things because without them, we wouldn't have GTAO or RDO.
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1 hour ago, Voss said:
I think the only thing that was updated this week was a code roll back to from when at least some missions worked.
Things went from no "Wagon" missions working to wagons finally appearing back in the world and more missions working. But I believe they had to roll back to and older version of the code because some of the older minor bugs came back.
I'm guessing they were hoping to move forward, but couldn't get things working.
Now only a handful of missions are even available to me.
My assumption is they underestimated the effort to port the core code to a workable online version and are struggling with memory issues or something. This online game is pretty much un-playable currently unless you want to deliver a few bags.
This just adds to the griefing because players are just bored.
I realize it's being labeled a beta, but RS really dropped the ball here and not sure why they are not being more honest and open about the issues.
....that's a lot of assumptions there.
Not that the issues are not occurring (I'm not saying that at all) but keep in mind that they are not occurring the same for everyone. In my case, I see no difference in the way the side missions work now than before. They still don't work at times and in the same ways they did / didn't back before the update. I understand that's changed for some folks. For me, I can still do all of them as long as the missions start. So far, the holding down of the L2 button (PS4) seems to be getting that done in my situation.
I think a lot of it has to do with network performance of the player and the people who share the session. Personally, I don't think they rolled back anything but rather (perhaps) introduced new issues for some with the changes that they made.
The fact is that this update was more specifically for the Gun Rush mode and the other new additions (including bug fixes) will be coming with the title update. ....where there will be a local download required. I'd like to see how that shakes out.
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On 1/25/2019 at 5:51 AM, Chris Arbaugh said:
Couple things we do is when starting a mission make sure your posse members are 40 or 50 yards from the mission giver ,also keep holding L2 untill the narative is done. Works for us and sometimes it takes a few seconds to kick in but always does. Hope this helps.
I tried this for one session and I didn't have a problem with missions starting although there was a bit of delay on one. It didn't matter how close my teammates were in my case.
I'll have to try it for a couple more sessions before I can say it definitely works for me though. I also thought the same with a couple other things I tried (like moving around during the dialogue) until I had problems again.
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6 hours ago, Savage_Reaper said:
Not always true. I sometimes leave it open if a friend tells me they are loading in. But in that minute someone always pops in. The invite feature doesn’t work properly all the time, leaving it open temporarily is the only option.
Weird..... It's always worked for me.
I usually have a party chat set up for friends and then if they want to join, they let me know. Sometimes they simply show up in my session so then I have to send them a chat invite as well as a posse invitation.
I'm on PS4 btw.
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fyi.... RDR2.org is a fan site, not an official forum of R*. While venting here is fine, it's not going to change anything. If you want R* to hear your grievances, I'd suggest submitting them through their beta feedback site here:
https://www.rockstargames.com/reddeadredemption2/online/feedback?step=f2e50892
Welcome to the forums btw.....
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1 hour ago, Chris Arbaugh said:
Man that is so awesome @Kean_1 ! Thanks for this and I hope this comes to pass ! Exactly what I'm hoping for.
Well, let's cross our fingers. I guess we'll have to see how it all shakes out after the next update.
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17 hours ago, Netnow66 said:
Speaking of flags, lowered or not, a friend sent me this link after he saw it on another forum board. Looks legit to me.
Rockstar, some of us want PvE servers.
I hope he reported the incident and sent this to R* Support.
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17 minutes ago, Savage_Reaper said:
I agree. And every weapon can be countered. So it you have the proper Ability Card set up, you can frustrate the hell out of a Varmit spammer. Slippery Bastard is also a friend of mine.
Lancaster locks on faster than Litchfield. Its funny , cause I loved Litchfield in story mode but Lancaster in online. I even put a scope on my Lancaster. The Bolt is fun and it is a headshot magnet. Just make sure you count your shots so you don't get jammed up in a long reload animation. Springfield with Express rounds is nice as well. So when players are flopping around like Muddy Mud Skipper, 2 body shots will do the trick.
Yeah, I use Express rounds almost exclusively in my weapons. I really haven't played around with the High Velocity ammo.
You bring up a good point about lock on.... There are a lot of aspects to the gameplay mechanics R* doesn't talk about and/or make easily known. Seems a lot of these "little details" have to be passed on by fellow players like tribal knowledge. I really wish they would make more of this stuff available in a tutorial, a guide, documentation ,etc.
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5 minutes ago, Chris Arbaugh said:
Thank you sir and I will adjust my responses accordingly.
Hey Chris, Just know that I'm talking as a fellow member here. If I weren't a mod, I'd still be posting what I did. I'm just hoping we can all agree based on the kind of community I know we are and that we can continue to be.
I really like this community otherwise I wouldn't have accepted the job as a mod. ....and I only did because I wanted to give back to all the folks who have contributed to make this one of the better forums out there. I get the frustration of seeing a game's direction turn for what you feel is the worst. Let's hope this isn't the case with RDO and that the solutions R* comes with can have benefits for us all.
....speaking of which, I hardly see anyone mention this but I'm kinda curious about the whole bounty / posse thing. Look what R* says here:
QuoteLaw and Bounty Improvements to discourage griefing while introducing a new Freeroam dynamic between bounty hunters and criminal rogues
Makes me wonder the role players will have in this new "dynamic" they invision. Maybe now we can actually have outlaws and lawmen RP in the game. I could see this being fun and a challenge for both. I'm sure there will be rewards for both.
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I use the Springfield quite extensively. It's deadly and I like it a lot. ....way more than the bolt action but as mentioned, that's just preference. Maybe I need to give the BA another shot?
I also prefer the Lancaster over the Litchfield. I like the speed advantage that it has between shots in both hunting and defense. ....but again, I could end up changing my mind.
Other than the Varmint Rifle, this is one reason I like the weapon balance in RDO. When people are choosing weapons based on personal preference, specific tasks, etc., you know you're on the right track (IMO).
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46 minutes ago, Chris Arbaugh said:
Yes sir ! I would like to apologize to any hurt feelings I may have caused. Speaking for myself and myself alone I'm just getting a little tired of all the don't shoot me because I'm not here for shooting comments. Again Sorry for ruffled feathers ! Carry on.
1 minute ago, Chris Arbaugh said:And to clear the air @Kean_1 I do love this forum and positive vibe it sets. Couple examples I'm trying to point out is = do people contact e a sports and whine that someone made them fumble in Madden ? Or contact e a because someone put them into the wall in NASCAR ? Just defending this game bro. I re-read some of my comments and can see where I came off harsh and do apologize for hurting feelings. Just don't want this to be another destiny 2. I was all over destiny 2 right up untill they chose to listen to the small group of whiners.
The PvP / PvE aspect of Free Roam is obviously a well debated topic and one that has sparked some obvious divides among some folks. All I'm saying is that we can still discuss the topics here with a level of civility without trying to belittle someone or a group of fellow members simply for sharing a difference of opinion. That only serves to incite a negative reaction in others followed by a toxic exchange. What good does that do?
Hey, I get tired of hearing some folks as well on forums for one reason or another so I just use the ignore feature and voila. .....I don't have to read their remarks. I can't really do that here because I'm a mod (I need to see what folks are posting), but I think you get the point.
All I will say about your examples of "whiners" is that in RDOs case, those folks used the feedback site R* provided to lodge their complaints and make their suggestions. ....and this wasn't a small group according R*. This feedback is the reason they are implementing anti-griefing measures for those who indiscriminately kill (using their own words). No one here is privy to all of the gameplay data, feedback, reports, etc. that R* is. .....and I have to believe they are using all of that valuable information to help drive their decisions vs. making knee-jerk choices based on the opinion of a small minority of their player base.
Look, my point is that slamming people for voicing their opinion isn't the answer. First, it doesn't help change anyone's opinion on the topic and second, it doesn't change anything with the game.
Unlike other betas on console, RDO is still in development and R* is taking feedback seriously in it's development. They have been urging people to use their feedback page to submit their own ideas, suggestions, bug reports and complaints. I've used it several times myself. If you really don't like the direction you think RDO is going, I would urge you to do the same.
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I like the suggestions from @BropolloCreed79 and even if they need tweaking to make them work, at least they are suggestions to help bring about some semblance of balance in Free Roam. .....and contrary to what some will believe, balance is all some of us really want (not a totally neutered experience for those who like the PvP element). I like the fact that instead of shooting down ideas, he's at least trying to find ones that work for all.
As far as R*s vision, they have stated that RDO was a mode for all and I've quoted their marketing them time and time again. If their descriptions are to be taken at their word, they didn't intend Free Roam to be a free for all from the outset. Perhaps they thought player interactions would be a more organic experience than it turned out to be but if they were OK with the current indiscriminate killing/trolling, they wouldn't be working on "anti-griefing" measures.
Speaking of which, I'm interested to see what they have planned for the posse system. It sounded to me that they may be planning to integrate other players into the mix as lawmen when bounties are issued. IMO, this should be something true PvP'ers would see as a challenge as they could take on the role of a real outlaw or as lawmen helping to protect other players in the session. Personally, I would think PvP'ers would welcome the challenge while true griefers, not so much.
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Seems to me that we can all share our own opinions openly and constructively without disrespectful remarks to one another including groups of people. This thread appears more like a not-so veiled insult toward a segment of the community rather than one actually making a point about the game.
If you guys really want to affect change, I would encourage you (as I do with everyone) to submit your feedback to R* here:
https://www.rockstargames.com/reddeadredemption2/online/feedback?step=f2e50892
One of the reasons RDR2.org is such a great place IMO is due to its community, it's generally welcoming atmosphere and the overall respect for each other even when we disagree.
Not everyone is going to agree on what we would like to see in this game but I would think we could discuss it rather than trying to belittle one another. Also, it's a working beta and one where R* is using the feedback to make changes as they develop RDO. I think we can all share our opinions with a certain level of mutual respect, yeah?
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48 minutes ago, Jackthestripper said:
I do use hay as well quite often. I hold in L1, (while sitting on my horse, at a dead stop), go over to the horse tab, and click L2 to go through the entire list but the oatcakes just don't appear. For that matter the hay doesn't either. All I have is herbs and vegetables. I just wish I knew how to take something from my satchel and make it available in the weapon wheel. And it's just odd because when my wife plays, the oatcakes are in the weapon wheel under the horse tab for her. She feeds her horse while sitting on the horse all the time. Wasn't a problem in storyline but it is now LOL Anyhow, I do appreciate your input.
Something's wrong then. I know for a fact that hay will show in the left slot when I have it in my inventory. Not sure what's going on then.
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1 hour ago, CrabApples said:
I have a friend who has been having the same issues anytime we try to play. Is he able to play without you by chance? I think there might be some kind of server issue where someone joining a server closer to player A causes player B to have connection problems because of the distance. I could be wrong. I am in the US and my friend is in the UK, we haven't been able to play together in over a month now.
I've played with folks from the UK and as far as Hong Kong (I'm on the West coast of the U.S.). ......rarely any issues. In fact, I hardly have issues regardless of who I play with but I still do have them once in a great while.
I don't know what the circumstances are that cause this issue more for some than others, but I think the important thing to note here is there are still connection issues R* needs to address.
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Just an fyi.... The details regarding the last status update are also stickied at the top of this forum for reference if anyone needs it:
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1 hour ago, Jackthestripper said:
So, I'm trying to find a way to get the oatcakes into my weapon wheel, under the horse tab. I have to get off my horse to feed him oatcakes. I have a ton of them, and I just can't seem to feed him oatcakes because they don't show up. I have to get off my horse to do it. Anybody know the trick?
IIRC, you can at least get them to show up on the left item location. Just scroll through the items in that spot until you get to the oatcakes and they should stay. I know I had them there at one point when I ran out of hay.
....and btw, hay is a great item to feed your horse as well if you didn't know. ....and it's only 25 cents a pop.
Its suppose to be a realistic game.thats what we got.let people play there own way.
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I'm closing this thread as it has quickly devolved into the insult slinging fest I knew it would. I tried to be reasonable. We don't need this here. Reddit is a great place to start if you're really into this sort of thing.