[How much in game dollars have you spent on the online beta? No cheats or noobs that pay for gold bars]

12 hours ago, D3x said:

The online end is meant to be played on a mic so you are speaking on behalf of your character in a way. I would love to see the mouths move when you are talking on a mic though.

 

2 minutes ago, Savage_Reaper said:

People always assume people hack to achieve high levels. It is easy to rank up fast. You just have to manage your time in game wisely. Showdown yields good money/xp. Replaying story missions and stranger missions pay descent. I ranked up a ton playing Spoils of War last week. Stranger missions are cool and all, but holding a wagon or bag for 10mins gets old. In that time I can run two Showdown matches. 

To be clear I am not assuming anything, I am just asking, the math suggests there is something off.

I get it that managing my time better will definitely help me gain more xp than I have so far, no doubt.

But will it yield triple or 4 x as much? I highly doubt it.

I have joined a few times and done nothing but missions of every sort, gang hideouts, and then played fishing challenges, fools gold, etc.. and still never gone more than 1 level in a 4 or 5 hours session.

So just looking at the time it took me, and then considering a better way, lets say twice as good, it will still take 300 hours of game play to get to level 200 and that doesnt seem realistic to me, but it is what it is.

Im on the grind, lol, done fishing for cash, and now trying to find better more effective ways to level up.

If you are over level 200 and didnt use any exploits then I applaud you, well done!!

I just dont think I will be able to find a way to gain 1 level every 2 hours in game, if I could, that would be great.

 

[How much in game dollars have you spent on the online beta? No cheats or noobs that pay for gold bars]

So, what is the deal with waiting longer in missions for more xp, I dont understand, why dos running the clock out give you more?

I am still programmed by the single player to hurry up, but you are suggesting that if you take your time or drag your feet the is more of a benefit?

 

[Characters that never speak]

22 hours ago, Kean_1 said:

We had a voice in the campaign because we were playing the role of Arthur.  In RDO, you're playing the role of yourself so there is no scripted dialogue on your behalf.  It's definitely a design decision and R* isn't the only one to choose this route.  In fact, a recent example is the Division 2.  

As I recall this was actually addressed in an interview during development and the decision had something to do with what I mentioned.

I understand that I just meant they could have had a generic "yes" or "no" or "excuse me" etc.. just the very basics, but what was said about using rhe mic, kind of makes sense but not really.

I mean in missions, a character asks you a question, my guy can only nod, cant say a word, regardless of the mic, so I just think, for those situations, it would be nice to have our guy/gal be able to say, Sure, or no thanks, or excuse me, etc.. 

[How much in game dollars have you spent on the online beta? No cheats or noobs that pay for gold bars]

9 minutes ago, Renascent said:

I only ever put in 6-8 hours a day, not everyday. It's really not that hard to rank. But it is slower if you're solo and don't know how to manage your time. Along with how to get the most out of missions. 

Running with a full posse, from 28 to 60, took me about a week. IDK why do many think people hack to get to ranks 100-200. Now 350+? Either no life or yeah they did some questionable things to get there. I'm rank 169 and I still get maybe 1-2 ranks per day and that's with I think needing about 8,000-9,000 exp per rank.

You climb 8 or 9 ranks a day?!? how??

I think I read that wrong, lol.

 

I takes me 5 hours to climb one level lol, sure im alone, not in a posse, and mostly hunting, but I do clear any hideouts I come across, ive done all the available story missions, stranger missions, etc..

I can see maybe 2 ranks, if you have a posse and better strategy but 8 or 9? I dont see how that is possible at least not for me, I dunno what you do to achieve that but I sure would like too.

Maybe give me an example of a a session that you climbed 8 levels, what exactly did you do?

[How much in game dollars have you spent on the online beta? No cheats or noobs that pay for gold bars]

1 minute ago, Vaderspupil said:

Yeah, playing this game has pretty much become a 2nd job for me. I have no life.☺

I can definitely see that, lol.

Again for me to catch you, based on the first 25 levels ive done, I woudl need to play around 300 hours to get to level 110.

So 60 days in a row of 5 hours a day or so, and again, it isnt realistic or possible, So I just wonder how people get to level 200 without finding an exploit, I just dont see it.

 

[How much in game dollars have you spent on the online beta? No cheats or noobs that pay for gold bars]

5 minutes ago, Vaderspupil said:

I've grinded my way to level 111 the hard way. All of my levels and all of the cash I've spent has come from hours and hours of play every day. I do admit to mowing down the law in Saint Denis a couple of times, but I've done that very sparingly, just to raise one level quickly when I needed it. Now with the bounty system it's  not worth it because your bounty would escalate so quickly.

Mind you, there is nothing wrong with killing cops to gain xp, lol Im just curious how many people actually put in the long hours to get there.

Sounds like you put in a lot of time.

For me I have put in around 73 hours to get to level 25.

so x 10 to get to level 250 means I would need to play over 700 hours and that could take months, maybe a year, lol.

Something def seems off.

 

[How much in game dollars have you spent on the online beta? No cheats or noobs that pay for gold bars]

I look around at how many level 200  and higher players there are, do you think any of them did it the hard way?

 

In my case it would take around 750 hours of play to get to level 200 based on how many hours it took me to get to level 25, extrapolating the data gives me like 750 hours or something like that,.

At 4 or 5 hours per session we are talking about 150 5 hour sessions, has beta even been active for 150 days, ?

Either I am the slowest xp getter ever or folks are playing 15 hours a day 7 days a week, or they used an exploit to gain some xp at some point.

[I Got Reported For Nothing]

5 hours ago, James Hickok_1837 said:

Basically in situations like this ( horse accident lol) the first thing You should do is kill that guy then quickly pick up and sell.   

I would have, but I dont want to be a red dot, lol so I dont shoot folks for no reason, not even for riding into me and knocking all my stuff off my horse.

 

[Is there a chart or worksheet for xp]

4 hours ago, Herta47 said:

Question on your final reaction: "What's the noticeable effect on upgrading from Tier 2 to 3 at 500,00 each!!"

I cant say yet that it is a noticeable amount of difference as I havent used them really, but what they say is this, (paraphrasing of course.)

Paint it black for example, tier 1, with each shot you take your dead eye drains a little, tier 2, your dead eye drains a small amount, tier 3 your dead eye drains a tiny amount, etc..

So I assume it is just a better more exaggerated example of the effect whether it be dead eye drain, or damage inflicted etc..

Since I have done so little fighting up til now, I dont think I will ever really know for sure, I upgraded all of my cards to tier 3 already, the only one I havent activated is available at level 40 and I just hit 25 last night so.....

 

2 hours ago, Ozy8753 said:

Wrong video.

 

This explains alot, including how so many people leveled up so quickly early on, sigh...Let me guess, everyone who did this  got to keep all their ill gotten gains from this exploit?
Nobody was penalized and lost their XP after the fact?

I remember while playing my third play through and ignoring the Online Beta seeing these videos in Blackwater of people climbing the ladder to the roof, then killing cops by the dozens, and I didnt understand why, I wasn't impressed or interested in playing the online at that point, as I was still loving the single player and was on my third and most thorough play through.

Hopefully as these are discovered the FEW people who couldn't help themselves and loaded up on Xp via an exploit were compelled to give it back, ie have it taken back by R*.

But somehow I doubt that happened.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Spoiils of War...how do you pick up an enemy bag?]

On 3/26/2019 at 1:35 PM, Harlock1796 said:

Except for sometimes.

I wonder whether I had some bugged games early on, because I have had situations where 2 or even 3 members of my team have had bags at the same time, but for the past few days it has definitely been 1 bag at a time. 

One game in the orchard we won 19 deliveries to nil, and all 3 of us could hold bags simultaneously.

That sounds how I would expect it to play.

[Is there a chart or worksheet for xp]

Thanks everyone, I made level 25 finally, feels like it took forever.

I used almost only fishing, hunting, cleared 6 or 8 hideouts, got 3 or 4 treasure maps,, and tried the story missions, a couple stranger missions, maybe 5 or 6, and  a pvp mode, etc, 
I didnt realize that fishing/hunting was a slow way to gain xp, I was under the impression it was a good way to go, but I see it is a safe way to go but slow.

Now that I am nearly set up, I am going to shift my focus from fishing and hunting to playing the various missions and opportunities that are out there and gain the rest of my xp like that.

I only need about 750$ more to be satisfied with my current loadout so money isnt going to be the focus much after that for a while.

I upgraded all my cards to tier 3 already, I just have a few details to finalize.

[Characters that never speak]

Do you think it was designed to be that way from the start or they just ran out of time and resources so decided to bail on it all together?

I am talking about our online characters.

I dont mean they would have much dialogue but I would expect at least the basics greetings, insults, standard thank yous, excuse me, etc.. yes and no, loll

It just seems like they ran out of time to me.

I feel like given enough time and resources that they migth have added some dialogue for us to rely on, similar to the single player side of things.

I dunno, just my thought on it

[Female Gamers: Are they too much a distraction for male players?]

Im going to say no because 99.9999% I have no idea if the person is a male or female anyway.
You can never tell anyway,

Now, it occurred to me maybe you meant simply attractive female avatars in game and are those distracting, and I would say, so far not really but I can see that.
especially a lady outlaw for many guy's can be very sexy so I guess I can understand how that might be distracting for a second, but all you have to do is remember the lady you are looking at, is most likely a 32 year old dude.

I made my username nearly 20 years ago lumper because it was neither male or female, it was just lumper, I dont want to be judged one way or the other with interactions with strangers online.

[Do you watch old Westerns?]

14 hours ago, Kormath said:

My grandpa was a John Wayne fan,  had lots of fun going to stay with them for a weekend or whatever and watching John Wayne films.  He'd watch "the others" at times, but neither one of us liked them as much as John Wayne.  I didn't start watching Clint Eastwood until i was in middle school.  I had to do a report on a book or film and Fistful of Dollars was in the list of movies i could do the report on.  Dad recommended it so we watched it,  been a fan ever since, in fact that made me look for other movies of his and watch them - First one was FireFox (another one my older brother and Dad wanted to watch, we all went to the theater to see it), then that led me to Any Which Way You Can, i recognized Clint on the VHS cover at the local rental place.  Those are still 2 of my favorites

Thats great man, good memories too.

Clint did many great movies, those 70's Any which way but loose films were great.

Fun fact, you probably already know this, but in case ya dont, they call those films of Clints, the man with no name films or no name series, but more commonly Spaghetti Westerns they call them that because they were filmed in Italy where regulations were much more manageable and less expensive, many big directors and actors of the day Henry Fonda, Glen Ford, for example, usually preferred to film at least in part at Monument valley Utah where all those great tall stone things (for lack of a better word) are, Clints films never had those amazing views and vistas but you really dont mis them either, he had a way about him unlike most that came before him,

You can find Clint in episodes of Maverick, Wanted Dead or Alive, Death Valley days  and Tales from Wells Fargo, at least that I have seen him in, he was very young, some of those were 1959ish so he looks barely 20 in them as a cowboy, and you can still see that quality that he brought to the role of the outlaw very early on in his cameo or early opportunity roles he played.

[Impact holsters/belts/boots/hats etc?]

On 3/19/2019 at 3:38 AM, Herta47 said:

Does the (offhand) deadbolt holster automaticly store two pistols/revolvers/off shotguns? You can't notice that in the gunstore guide or you need two of them?

Sorry I mean to quote one of your other questions, lol but I wanted to explain how to equip them both at once.

When you have the "off hand" holster, you can then carry two side arms, so when you use your weapon wheel instead of going to 11 o clock to grab a pistol or going to 1 o clock to get another pistol you can just select 12 o clock, and you will equip them both at once, one in each hand, and when you put them away, one goes in the holster, the other in the off hand holster.

[Is there a chart or worksheet for xp]

I would like to know two things.

.01) definitively what is the FASTEST way to earn xp per hour in game?

.02) is there a list where I can see how much xp you earn for each thing you can do? like per fish caught, or animal skinned or enemies killed etc...?

I would just like to understand better how to earn xp.

No matter how I do it I seem to make around 100$ per trip and they seem to take most of an in game day, I think I can do two trips in three days.

I dont know how much xp it gives me exactly but I can tell you so far 7 trips and I still need 1200 xp points to level up one click, from 24 to 25, it seems like thats way too slow.

I hate grinding for hours and hours to make what seems to amount to almost no progress.

I have developed what I thought was a pretty efficient system but this cant be the best way, there must be a faster way.

Any information and examples of things you have done that earn you more xp per hour/day in game would be greatly appreciated.

 

 

[Can I change my character?]

On 3/24/2019 at 10:41 AM, Born Homicidal said:

Trust me lvl 20 is nothing, I know a guy (in my Posse) who reached level 50 and just couldn't stand the way his character looked compared to ours (he rushed his as we took our time). He eventually just restarted and is back at lvl 23.

I say if you dislike the character so much you might as well start over while you are still a low level. Levelling up to 20 isn't that much of a grind especially if you play with friends. I think but not sure you get more XP the bigger your posse is idk though.

LOL, no way man.

Im at level 24 trying to make 25, been on for 4 hours, caught hundreds of fish, skinned dozens of animals, still need 1300 xp points, ugg no way could I stomach starting over, its not like the single player where you want to start over, I just want to get to a level where I can buy everything I enjoy using and feel god about and then cal it a day and just play.
Im close, after level 25 I cant do much til around level 90 lol and I dont even know if Ill ever get that high.

 

[online horse bonding, starts over everytime?]

Wait, so when I log in and my horse is again level 1 or not even I can just go to a stable and it will revert to level 4 that I was at when I left the game the day before?

 

[Do you watch old Westerns?]

I used to feel the same way then I watched Vertigo, and The man who knew to much, and North by Northwest, and I was 100% hooked on that era, none of those are westersn though, But Shane, was great, and Sgt York although a ww1 picture was still very much that country, western feel to it, anyway after those, I kind of just found JAmes Garner as MAverick or the Sheriff series he did, two movies, both really funny, and then I just started watching more.

I love them now, cant get enough. 

Tales of Wells Fargo and Death Valley days are two of my favorites, Death Valley Days are true stories put to a 30 minute show so you get some history and entertainment.

I too grew up in the 70's and watch Clint Eastwood, he is definitely a favorite, it took a lot longer to appreicate John Wayne.

Watch The man who shot Liberty Valance, it is awesome!

Lee Marvin another great actor, John Wayne, and Jimmy Stewart, very good film.

John Wayne started believe it or not in the 30's, he was in a ton of movies, way too many to name or even count.

[Do you watch old Westerns?]

Sweet, yes, there are literally TONS of westerns, I ove the golden era, 1940 through 1965 the actors like Jimmy Stewart, Audie Murphy, Gregory Peck, and the list goes on and on and on.

Jack Ellam was a character acter who appeared in many many tv shows and movies from the 40's on til his death in the 70's I believe maybe the 80's he and George Kennedy and a host of others were always a familiar face and lent a comedic sense to most of these films and shows, I just love the genre now.

 

[Serial Killer Clue Missing]

12 hours ago, Eyrmia said:

I collected the Valentine clue first. Later, was riding down by Rhodes, picked up the clue there. Then I got killed by some Lemoyne Raiders and the game reloaded me to right outside the forest where the Rhodes clue is. I assumed I had it, went on with my life. Got the last clue near Wallace Station, but the map didn’t complete. Looked through my satchel and I don’t have the Rhodes clue. Rode back to Rhodes, there’s blood but no body and no head. Used Dead Eye, nothing. Rode to Valentine, but there’s nothing there and I have that piece already.

Is there any fix for this? Can’t reload a save because it was an auto-save that reset me. Tried closing the game and reopening, then went back to Rhodes. Nothing. 

I’m on PS4. 

So, I think all you have to do is load any old save, load up an older save from chapter 2, ride out to Rhodes and discover the clue, note it in the journal and you should be ok, I am guessing here but I do think it will work.

[Owls?]

2 minutes ago, Kormath said:

Thanks!!  i'll check there tonight.  Gonna need more owl feathers on this 2nd play through

Funny you should reply just now, I was just in Scarlett Meadows or whatever, the old battlefield near Braithwaie? and in the moddle of the battle filed was a dead tree with a Horned owl on it.

[Stuck in chapter 2 !?!]

1 minute ago, Kormath said:

Just did this last night.  You don't need to sneak, it's insanely simple.  Mark the location with your GPS, follow the red line to the mission.  don't deviate from that route or you'll get dead.  I picked a herb on the way that was maybe 20 yards off the road, got shot in the head for it.  respawned and followed the red line and had no issues.

Hmm not me, I was able to pick lots of Currant and Thyme on my way and I drifted a lot, I just stayed near the cliff edge when I could.

[Owls?]

On 11/19/2018 at 5:04 PM, gigemaggs99 said:

What do y'all suggest for areas for small birds? I found a hunting challenge poster on the wall at a post office, did the first challenge (1 perfect rabbit carcass and 1 perfect squirrel carcass, then you have to mail them). That opened up the 2nd challenge which is 3 small birds, sparrow, oriole, robin.

Any tips on finding them, spotting them or decent locations? I see some from time to time but normally when I'm running on my horse I see them flying off in the distance.

 

On 3/18/2019 at 9:41 PM, night253 said:

So, i loved this game but ultimately lost enjoyment and couldn't finish it due to the atrocious wanted system. Mainly the complete absence of stand your ground.

I.E. Random guy talks crap to me on the street. I talk crap back. He pulls out a gun and starts shooting me. I pull out a gun and shoot him in the head. Now I'm wanted for defending myself (sheriffs saw the whole thing go down and still started shooting me).

 

It's totally immersion breaking. I really don't think  anybody in those times would have batted an eyelash if someone starts trying to murder you in the middle of the street and you defend yourself with lethal force. 

 

If this was ever resolved I'm going to try returning to it... otherwise... yikes..

 

1 minute ago, Kormath said:

You're talking about the crashed ship -

  Hide contents

where you get the pirate hat?

 

Yep

[Is the wanted system fixed yet?]

Starting a fight and then ending up wanted for killing a guy is quite normal, you have to learn to co exist with people,

Sure sometimes you accidentally bump into a guy and it starts a chain reaction that ends up with you being wanted, but misunderstandings happened and happen all the time.

The thing is you have to run, and avoid, more than just "stand your ground" and fight over every detail.

There is an old saying, you have to chose your battles, so chose them wisely.

I do agree with you however.

For example, you accidentally bump someone, and it escalates, you should be able to de-esclate things just as easily, I think npc's react a little too violently considering how easily you can get a wanted level, it does seem a bit skewed at times.

There could be more fist fighting to settle disputes and less random shootings that end bad for you.

It stinks to rush into town to get the mail or something and all of a sudden you have to bail over some silly nonsense, it gets frustrating at times and does seem a bit skewed.