[RDR Online is getting really sad!]

57 minutes ago, Truth said:

Save something for the endgame!

Oh, for the life of me, I just seem to be completely incapable of finishing the one shooting challenge that requires you to disarm three opponents without reloading.  There's a trail of one-armed Lemyone and O'Driscolls from Valentine to Saint Denis, but they never let go of the gun.

I've started walking through the piles of corpses and blowing their heads off in frustration after the fact.

[Black estate boss hat location?]

There's an even better hat that's similar, but more refined; the Nevada Hat, which is FREE, as it's a collectible, and it's in an easy to access location.

Spoiler

Not a pic of me, just one I found on online, but it completes the "Lawman" look that I like for my single player experience.

[RDR Online is getting really sad!]

34 minutes ago, HuDawg said:

The beta has sure out worn its welcome.    

 

But the game is still packed with players..

I suppose I'd better buckle down then on the story mode and actually play some of the missions.  I'm STILL in Chapter 3 

Spoiler

And just finished robbing the bank in Valentine last night before burning the Grey's fields

so I'm pretty sure I still have a LONG ways to go.

The good news is, I've finished a lot of the challenges and at some point, I suppose I'll power through, but I really want that 100% completion, so I tend to get through it slower than I probably should.

The horror stories from online beta don't exactly serve as inspiration to get me to finish quicker.

 

[RDR Online is getting really sad!]

It's not surprising.  The Beta has been active for almost a month at this point, and without having clear expectation of what (if anything) is going to change, there's little motivation for players to become invested.  

It'd be one thing if a player or permanent posse could pool funds and purchase buildings for sale to operate as a base that could be upgraded, or have a goal to work towards other than simply "ranking up", but as it stands now, there's no true endgame.  

There's no instances/dungeons for the  RPG crowd

No personalized customization other than a camp and clothing.

There's nothing elusive and tangible for players to chase.  The only thing is ranking up, and with the forced PvP element, a player can't grind in peace, so there's no incentive for casuals or PvE players to stick it out until something is implemented that is more in-line with the experience they want from the game.  

Players need to be able to purchase or commission a hunting cabin/lodge/farm/whatever and work towards furnishing it.  I should be able to hunt a legendary buck and mount it's head on the wall of my Evil Dead-inspired cabin overlooking a river.  Instead, I have to be aggrieved by trolls and work towards.... a new hat?  Nobody wants that experience, that's why nobody is playing.  Like it or not, the casual PvE crowd is going to be larger for this game in terms of player volume than the PvP crowd.

Having the open world be a PvP slaughterhouse doesn't segregate the players who want nothing to do with that style of play, so there's yet another reason to stay offline.

What they should look at is the ESO model, which has literally everything this game needs to retain a robust player base that will spend money.  There are other solutions, but right now, the online play is severely lacking unless you're into PvP.  Give us something to work towards and let us do it in peace if we choose to do so, or collaboratively without being hassled by cretins.  If I want PvP gameplay, I'll fire up The Division and head to the Dark Zone.

[What other weapons would you like to see?]

Hammers.  Nothing quite as statisfying as smacking an opponent in the face with the business end of a good old fashioned framing hammer.

Not that I know what that sounds like...

[The Varmint Rilfe is not the BEST weapon for PVP]

I"ll take a good scattergun and tactical gameplay over a varmit rifle any day of the week.

[Is there some news ??]

56 minutes ago, Kean_1 said:

Personally, I'm not going to get worked up on pure assumptions.

How DARE you, Sir.  This is the Internet!  Reckless speculation and emotional outrage are the grease that keep the gears moving online.  Everyone knows that.

 

[Is this the best RDR2 player right now?]

47 minutes ago, Kean_1 said:

.you WILL have that horrible tune stuck in your head for the rest of the day.

There are far, far worse things to have stuck in one's head.  For example, there's a bevy of 80's commercial clip montages available for your viewing pleasure.  I won't go so far as to do that here, since it's off topic, but clearly we need to come to a consensus as to who is indeed, the best RDR2 Online player out there. 

[Is this the best RDR2 player right now?]

19 minutes ago, Vaderspupil said:

I don't need to be the best.

 

[Is there some news ??]

42 minutes ago, HuDawg said:

If it was up to me there would be no levels in this game. 

But... but... how will the tri-hards track their progress in the absence of leaderboards if there are no levels?

27 minutes ago, madfretter said:

The griefing stuff will get addressed,  they've said it's on their list,.

Lists are meaningless unless they actually follow through on it.  Until this hot mess is out of beta, I reserve the right to withhold judgment.  Apart from deeming it a hot mess in it's current (albeit incomplete) iteration.

58 minutes ago, YodaMan 3D said:

It could be a complete reset and refund of spent gold.

I'm still leaning towards this happening more so than nothing happening at all.  Too many folks were gifted free gold for participating, and a as a result, folks who participated in the Beta will have a leg up on the folks who did not.  Not that they're known for being fair, but I'm inclined to believe they'll do a full reset and refund everyone's purchased/earned gold.

[Is this the best RDR2 player right now?]

1 hour ago, HuDawg said:

People who die constantly are just making themselves easy targets.

Maybe I'm just trying to build everyone else's self esteem.

Or maybe I'm sluggish on the controls because "whiskey".

[Is this the best RDR2 player right now?]

19 hours ago, Truth said:

You guys just don't know what to talk about now, do you?

This thread has gone through like 5 topics at this point lmfao

Obviously, it's about this dopey-faced goober being the best RDR2 player.

2 hours ago, madfretter said:

Just wanted to make sure you were up to date on this thread Champ

There's only one Champ:

[Is there some news ??]

2 hours ago, madfretter said:

It won't happen.

I'll take action on that, if only for the fact that they don't care about what we think.

If anything, they'll just refund everyone's Gold to the original value or amount purchased, but that's all they'd really have to do to satisfy any legal requirements.

6 minutes ago, madfretter said:

The reset would be ok by me as long as they refunded the gold bars. We received them for participating in the beta, that shouldn't be taken away.  

Exactly what they would do.  It's the simplest solution.

7 minutes ago, Euphoric77 said:

I see them switching quickly to different games already.

It's a competitive business.  And late February through March is going to be insane for gaming releases (assuming they don't delay Anthem or The Division 2).  I know that I'm not overly enthused with the online portion of RDR2 at the moment, but they have about two months to get me engaged before I jump ship.

14 minutes ago, cory206 said:

But they have given us the best game ever

High praise.  It's a fantastic game, to be sure, and one of the best I've played in a long time, but "the best game ever"?  I don't think I'd go that far.

46 minutes ago, Cliffs said:

Anybody that spends real money on anything beta is a fool parted from his money.

This guy gets it.  I've been adamant since the day Gold launched during beta that purchasing it should be avoided at all costs; anything can be rolled back for any reason during beta--that's why it's a "beta".  And I've seen it happen too many times in the past to believe differently.  I'd be willing to bet fewer than 1% of games go through a beta process without substantive changes--and the types of changes we're talking about usually have significant alterations (both directly and indirectly) to core game mechanics, and in this instance, the in-game economy.

They won't see a dime from me until they release a finished product.  Ask people who sunk money into the Marvel Heroes Omega on PC, PS4, and XB1 how they feel about the money they spent--as big a cautionary tale as there is.  We all know RDR Online is under no threat of shuttering within six months, but the fact that it's in beta and will continue to be for the foreseeable future is a HUGE red flag for myself and others when it comes to pouring more cash into the game.

[Fun things to do]

Literally everything short of fishing is fun in this game:

Want to go on a murder spree without getting a wanted level?  Go to Van Horn.

Hunt, rob, or steal your way to happiness.

Shoot a fish.

Blow up a stagecoach (it takes a bit of dynamite and ingenuity, but it CAN be done).

Beat up a newspaper boy.

Punch a horse.

Throw someone off a bridge!

Sure, there's plenty of "nice" things to do, but other than patting a dog in town, the "nice" things.... are kind of boring--let's admit it, I'm not the only one who fantasized about putting one in the back of little Jack's head on that fishing trip and calling it a day, right?

[Is this the best RDR2 player right now?]

26 minutes ago, Kean_1 said:

.......freakin' hilarious.  Can't believe this thread is still going.

Couldn't pass up the chance to drop this in here.

17 minutes ago, madfretter said:

Be glad Wildcard didn't make this game. If they did, you'd fall through the map after diving and be able to shoot people on surface world.

Nah, bro, be glad Gun Media and Illfonic didn't make this game.

 

[Is this the best RDR2 player right now?]

35 minutes ago, The Coca-Cola Kid said:

But please don’t imply that I am a cheap player because I use auto-aim, because I am not.

Reading comprehension.  It's a "Cheapie Maghee mechanic"--nothing said about players who use them.  The mechanics are cheap; I have no quarrel with players who use them as intended.  If anything, I blame R* for putting that crap in the game to begin with.  

I used Fortnite as an example because (A) I hate that game--it flat out sucks, and is only popular because it's free to play.  The graphics are trash, the mechanics are disgusting, and it's just a terrible experience.  Shooters require balance, and Fortnite is about as balanced as a one-legged pirate with a glandular disorder; and (B) Fortnite is an easy comparison because of it's inherent and intentionally outlandish cartoonish style--an overt contrast to the care, realism, and attention to detail that permeate almost every aspect of RDR2.

If they charged $39.99 or $59.99 for the PvP version of Fortnite NOBODY would play it.  Instead, it's populated by preteens who don't have disposable income playing for free, and parents who just want to spend time with their kids.  Put an economic gate to entry on that title, and it's about as popular as a wet fart in an elevator.

I guess the point of all this is, I REALLY hate Fortnite.  Probably because my kid wants to play it and won't shut up about it--all his friends play it, and talk about it, and do the idiotic ripoff dances during basketball practice--God, I hate that game.

15 minutes ago, Vaderspupil said:

That being said, I'm certainly no fan of those like the OP who think they are the GOAT

The GOAT?  There's only one GOAT, and his name was Robert Paulson.

5 minutes ago, Vaderspupil said:

Wouldn't bother me any if they took away the extra XP bonuses for headshots, distance etc. for auto aim users.

What they should do is make it a scoring modifier for using free aim as opposed to AA.  For example, playing PvP versus PvE mode of Survival on the Division adds in a 1.5x score multiplier at the end of the match.  So for RDR2, you should be locked into your aim preference before the session starts, and from there, you have a scoring modifier applied to your XP gains if you use free aim as opposed to auto aim.

25 minutes ago, madfretter said:

I don't think that being able to lock onto a persons head, every time,  while looking backwards and  riding a horse at top speed is accurate.

Shoot, son, I can do that blindfolded with half a bottle of whiskey in my belly.  A real neat trick is shooting hats off of them instead of pulling off headshots.

[Is this the best RDR2 player right now?]

2 minutes ago, YodaMan 3D said:

I personally like the taking cover and using a little strategy on missions instead of everyone being the Rambo John Matrix.

Fixed that for you.

But I agree.  Even in story mode, when I'm in a shootout, I switch over to First Person mode because I have auto aim disabled.  When I want to shoot someone in the leg who's hiding behind cover, I want the freedom to aim without AA pulling the bead somewhere else.  

It's far more rewarding and realistic.  If people want "Cheapie Maghee" mechanics, like flopping and auto aim, they should go play Fortnite.  

[Apparently my friend bought online boosting.]

On 1/1/2019 at 8:02 AM, Poggy said:

Not all high level players use exploits, though.  Some just don't have lives.

Hey, I have no life, where's MY high level character?

[Posse Questions]

3 hours ago, Vaderspupil said:

No. The posse is not active when the leader is not online. You or the other posse members have to form your own persistent or temporary posse. Posse leaders can delete members to make room for new ones should  they wish. You can be a member of multiple  posses at the same time, just being active in one at a time.

Great answer.  Did not know that.

Seems like a lot of unnecessary work for an oversight in the programming logic.  After all, what "gang" or "posse" doesn't have lieutenants or "#2's" to handle things when the big boss is not around.  Hell, Arthur is pretty autonomous in RDR2's story line, but our creations are mindless fools? 

[First Expansion Update]

25 minutes ago, YodaMan 3D said:

According to my son, some one found info leading to the idea of another undead nightmare.  He said the same guy found things that he believed could be a continuation of the story for some of the other members.   Now the guy supposedly supplied proof, but I shrugged it off to my son and told him he shouldn't ruin the surprise.

Makes sense.  Given the creepy/weird/supernatural elements that are already in the game as side quests and/or Easter Eggs, I fully expect them to incorporate some element of that into DLC, although maybe not until later on, to coincide with Halloween later this year.  Releasing "Undead" content or a variation of that in February or March hardly seems appropriate.

1 hour ago, Truth said:

I wouldn't mind being able to play as Micah. There are plenty of bridges to throw myself off of!

First of all, I'm stealing this idea and creating a "Micah" for online play.  It'd be worth sitting through the cinematic again.  Second, anyone can go out with a bang like that, but a true "Micah" player would be the ultimate troll: betraying everyone in his groups during online play, driving stagecoaches of NPC's directly into a game of "Chicken" with a locomotive, or even just shooting eveyone's horses out from under them for hours on end...

[Scammed into buying gold for Arabian horse]

32 minutes ago, YodaMan 3D said:

After the fact, now we get "Tough, this is a beta.  We can change the rules as we like and just saying we are doing it for the sake of the game."  

The exact reason why I urged folks repeatedly to delay in purchasing gold.  Anything purchased during beta could be subject to rollbacks or worse.

There's little in terms of recourse for consumers/customers either, thanks to the standard EULA boilerplate language that guarantees arbitration instead of litigation in the event  someone wants to challenge this.

On 12/25/2018 at 12:31 PM, ThinnamenThwirl said:

You're a fool if you think this is a joke. Hundreds of others have been hit by this and it's not ok. Even if it was a $5 cash grab it isn't ok.

Unfortunately, there isn't much of a leg to stand on.  Review the EULA; the best you can hope or is arbitration.l 

 

[Daily Meme Thread]

[Some COWARD just stabbed my horse!]

6 hours ago, IudiciumDie said:

Kill me for no reason, I kill you and your horse!

Shoot, I'll kill your horse just for looking at me too long.

I've done worse.

[RDR 2 ONLINE - Sleeping in your own camp?]

1 hour ago, madfretter said:

I have the max tent, no sleep option.

That tent ain't for "sleepin'" buddy.

[Mass kills where ?]

51 minutes ago, Kormath said:

but they respawn so quickly there it's hard to tell if you're rekilling one of the first ones or finishing off the last in the village.

I always take my sawed off shotgun, pump action shotgun, and a repeater into the saloon.  When someone repeatedly beats me in poker, I get up, pull out my gun, and murder the entire bar.  Just toss dynamite into the front room (through both doors) and that usually does the trick to clear the room.