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  1. 5 minutes ago, BropolloCreed79 said:

    It's ridiculous.  I disconnected more than half a dozen times in an hour of attempting to play free roam last night.  I've tried everything from port forwarding to hard lining directly into the modem and cutting out the router.

    Nothing works.

    This is the only game this happens to me on, when Gun Media's Friday the 13th: The Game has a more reliable connection to it's dedicated servers than R*, when I can play the Division for four or five hours on a weekend with ZERO disconnects, the issue lies with R*.  Not with my ISP, not with my home network, not with anything I have any control over.

    For the folks who enjoy the online game with little or no connectivity disruptions, I'm happy for you.  The few times I've been able to play the game for more than twenty or thirty minutes online without a D/C have been amazing.  But when I load up my horse from a hunting trip, only to disconnect before getting to town, it's an issue for me (and countless others).  Now, I'm out the ammo (which you have to pay for and grind), the carcasses, and the time spent--with nothing to show for it except some meat in my satchel when I respawn.

    I'm not asking to be made whole, I just want an explanation from R*.  The silence and stonewalling, coupled with the always prevalent "it's a beta" excuses have worn thin.  They know it's an issue, just admit it and tell us what you're doing to investigate/address the issue.

    If they can't fix this issue in a few weeks, I'm out.  Done.  I'll finish the story mode and trade the game in for max value (still trading for over $30 at most retailers) before Anthem and The Divison 2 drop in the next few weeks.  Not everyone has 5-8 hours a day to play the game.  I'm lucky if I can squeeze in 45 minutes to an hour and a half every couple of days, so my patience is somewhat thin when I can't get an online session to last as long as it takes to cook a frozen pizza in the oven.

    I'm frustrated beyond belief right now.  Last night was so arduously torturous with all the disconnects that I find it inexcusable for them to sit there and act like it's not anything to do with their end.

    It is insanely frustrating to have Rockstar say absolutely nothing on the topic.  From the looks of this forum we aren't the only ones this is happening to.  I knew it wasn't my end but wanted to be doubly sure when I call their support line and be told it's probably my network and to check it first, I'd be ready.  I play a lot of other games on rotation and I don't have any issue whatsoever, with the exception of the Anthem VIP demo, now that was a mess.  

    I've already moved on until Rockstar decides to comment and/or release new content for online.  I had finished the campaign a month or so ago.  I had pre-ordered Anthem and The Division 2 so that'll keep me busy while Rockstar remains mute on the topic.  Shame.

  2. 22 hours ago, YodaMan 3D said:

    Doing missions a certain way can help with money and or xp.  Slower the better is usually key.  Running with a Posse this weekend drove that thought home.  

    I caught on to that last week when this dude was screaming for us to NOT pickup the guy we had to deliver but instead wait 30 minutes to do it.  The problem with that is at any time you could be disconnected from the server.  I played 3 missions that night and got kicked from 2 of them.  Just to make sure I contacted Comcast's router/modem folks and they remoted in to my system and confirmed the ports I need to have open are open and they reserved the 3 Xbox's in our house.  Not sure what's happening with their servers but it isn't good.

  3. On 1/12/2019 at 11:51 AM, jnaron_ngc said:

    Is anyone else having these constant disconnects with server error ending in predominantly **006 (see attached screenshot)?

    I have been going back and forth with Rockstar support, and have forwarded suggested ports to a static ip on my xbox one, with some improvement in service. Still getting disconnected sometimes every 5 minutes or if I'm lucky I have seen 1 hour of gameplay. I have never seen this poor server connection issue while playing other online games, such as players unknown, etc. I am surprised that Rockstar does not have a better handle on this issue, considering all their experience with GTA online.

    Please share your insights.

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    You're not the only one this happens to.  I'm pretty sure it's not our end either.  I have a hard-wired connection to my modem/router and have an open NAT with no errors.  Yet I still get disconnected at least once per play session.  I've contacted Comcast gaming section on multiple occasions, for other games, and I have my Xbox One X reserved so there's no competing with the other devices in my house.  Not sure what the issue is but it needs to be addressed.

  4. 25 minutes ago, YodaMan 3D said:

    Some have already walked from the game.  Even if they add anything, those players comeback they may be seeing the carrot way to far out from the horse.  I would speculate that if they dangle that carrot too far, that unlike you they aren't prepared for playing and paying.  So it really matters what they do to keep players interested.  Sounds like you busted your hump to be in a good place and be ready.  To some they wasn't given enough to do in the beginning to stay grinding.

    You describe my experience perfectly.  I played for 6-8 again on Wed-Thu last week and tried to level myself up more and bank more cash.  Leveling takes way longer than it should in my estimation.  When I log into a mission there's a 1 in 3 chance it'll bounce me to the dashboard.  Hunting and fishing don't pay enough, again, for me.  I'm too low a level to buy anything anyway.  I haven't figured out a sure fire way to level up faster, but to do that means boredom.  I'm definitely in the "wait for something substantial to drop" before I give online much more of my time.

  5. On 1/31/2019 at 12:21 PM, Kean_1 said:

    I agree with the others. It may not be an aspect of the game someone likes but it's not "griefing" and certainly not what R* is talking about when they say they want to take action to help mitigate the issue.  As others described, it's more about the unprovoked, unscripted, indiscriminate killing of others especially in those moments when they are most vulnerable, etc.  

    Personally, I don't like accepting assassination missions but I accidentally did last night and as it turns out, the target was just a hundred yards away.  I also recognized him as someone I blocked earlier in the session (although I forgot why) so I decided to go ahead and do it.  Turns out him and his friend never ran and were engaged with NPCs. We swooped in, I took two shots with my lever action shotgun, killed them both and promptly rode off.  

    They never came looking for revenge and as soon as the mission was over I gave them space by riding away. 

    I've had several of these missions against me and to be honest, I simply found them boring as I've never had a problem keeping threats at a distance.  It's quick and easy XP and cash though.  Last night one even logged off when he realized he would never catch up to us.

    btw, if you don't enjoy an aspect of the game like these assassination missions being forced on players, I would urge you to submit your feedback to R*:


    Perhaps at some point they will have a switch like Creed talks about where those who want to be involved in PvP activities will be the only ones who get those kinds of missions.


    Thanks for the feedback Kean.  lt's not so much that I don't enjoy that part of the game.  I found it interesting that assassination missions like that were incorporated into Online.  I couldn't complete the one I had as by the time I left the house and checked the map the target was so far off I wouldn't have been able to catch him/her.  Those I don't mind at all, especially if the intended target is notified somehow that they're being hunted.

    What I have a problem with is what pretty much everyone else is talking about, the indiscriminate killing of another human that's minding their own business, hunting, fishing, whatever.  I played for a few hours the night before last and I can't tell you the number of times I was shot/killed by a random.  90 percent of those killings occurred without me seeing them first.  Some will say I should have been more aware.  But hell, I've had instances where I've been on the trail of an animal I'd shot and a random will sneak up behind me and shoot me in the back, then laugh about it while I'm laying there.  I don't see the fun in that for them honestly, especially when there are PvP related game modes built into online outside of free roam.

    I'll log in occasionally to see what changes have come, but I'm waiting until the final release of online comes out to put serious hours into it.  Sad too because I heard that will be months out.

  6. On 1/29/2019 at 5:17 PM, KylesDad7 said:

    Just curious if anyone has bought gold from the store yet? If so how much?

    I'm guilty. I've spent $45.00 so far. I hate using the in-game money for things. Feel like I'm going to need it at some point. So far I've used the gold mainly for a couple pamphlet purchases and to "bling" out my knife and Volcanic pistol. They're both all gold metal with ornamental engravings. 

    Thanks guys/gals for the update on when the beta title will be removed.

    Re gold, I got a notice last night saying I got 5 gold bars for playing during whatever period that was.  Does it go into my gold queue automatically or do I have to pick it up somewhere?  Also, just to clarify, does the "gold" show up on the screen in the upper right corner next to the "dollars" amount?  Right now it says I have 14 gold, gold what, bars, coins, etc.?

    One last question, when I was playing last night I came across a small cabin with an NPC in it.  He gave me an assassination mission where I had to kill a human.  I checked the map and he was all the across the map.  I tried to get there but could not.  Why is Rockstar promoting griefing with all this mess about griefing going on???

  7. 11 hours ago, redscrew said:

    I won't buy anything until the game is out of beta testing. I have purchased things before for games while they are still in beta and got ripped off. Never again!

    Does anybody have any idea when it'll come out of beta????

  8. 1 hour ago, Renascent said:

    I have just learned to avoid people and quickly determine friendly from hostile. If I just want to hunt and fish I go to areas where no one is around. If one area that I want isn't clear then I go to the next. I have many hunting and fishing spots. I usually don't have any problems anymore now that I do that. I do check the map every so often. And if someone does come near enough that it picks up in the minimap I check to see what they are doing and get ready to run/fight. I had a pretty clear day last Friday doing the moving around thing solo. Got a lot of missions done, hunting in between, very productive with minimal pvp.

    Otherwise, I don't think I could play this game without the threat of pvp. It wouldn't be challenging enough, in my opinion. I love having to be alert. I get that some people don't want to be that vigilant though. I am in favor of private lobbies, just don't change how the pvp is now.

    I do think there needs to be a few more 'safe" spots to relax (ie. the damn butcher, y'all know the pain).

    I've given Online several chances over the months and after finishing the campaign.  It's just too boring to me right now.  But the one thing that it reminds me of is the Dark Zone in The Division.  I'd get a rush going in there to get the loot I wanted and that I knew was better than outside the Dark Zone, but was always looking over my shoulder to see who was around me.  Getting my hunting and fishing goods off to be sold is the same as waiting for the chopper to come and carry out my loot from the Division.  Online would be better with more things to do, more missions, etc.

  9. On 1/18/2019 at 6:17 AM, Netnow66 said:

    Once on that "Kerosene" mission, while most of us were riding along getting the story outline/narrative from the NPC, one player took off on his own and I didn't know why.

    He went straight for the train and killed all the Pinkertons. 

    I guess while we went to grab the train to take to the location, he had already gone ahead and killed most of the NPCs at the station. When we pulled into the station on the train (we met very little resistance at all), we got the message to loot the industrialists, so he had gotten that far. By the time we actually got off the train, he had already looted them. I'm not even sure if he got on the train with us when we pulled off.

    I've learned my lesson now. I hang back to see if anyone goes straight to the train and follow them if they do.

    It's fine for those of us who have played the game since the beginning and have played out the whole story but it kind of ruins it for new players because they miss out on part of the action and story--and the XP, I'm guessing.

    I wish this mission was more like "Kill Them All..." where a player can ride ahead but all players are pulled together when the action starts. 

    I only replay the "Kerosene...," "Kill Them All..." and "Kill Them Each and Every One" missions now anyway because I don't really care for the others.

    A note to some players--you can press a button on your controller to skip most cut scenes. Once you've enjoyed the cutscene for a story 10 or 15 times, please be merciful and press it. Don't get me wrong, even I found Mrs. LeClerk's retribution funny the first 20 or so times but now even that's a little boring.

    I played some more online last night and am wondering why there isn't an option for the missions in free-roam to be done solo.  I launched one and the only option was 2-4 players via matchmaking.  After getting halfway through 2 tries at completing the mission the server kicked me out.  I checked my connection and all was good.  Sigh.  

  10. 8 minutes ago, Dark Eco Wolf said:

    This quote is from my GTAforums page. not meant for self promotion. Made for awesome conversation!

    I feel the same way about playing RDO.  I need to give it more time once RS starts adding more to do in it.  The story you attached was fascinating and I never knew that angle of the demise of Butch Cassidy and Sundance Kid.  Thanks for sharing.

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  11. On 1/18/2019 at 3:32 PM, YodaMan 3D said:

    I would expect it to get the GTA treatment.  People buy Gold Bars, they add new stuff for free or fairly cheap.  The difference being is there has been talk of adding campaign dlcs 

    I was hoping that would be the case.  Lets keep our fingers crossed.  Thanks for the info.

  12. Well, I played an hour or so of RDR Online last night and it was rather uneventful.  Previously I had only played for 15-20 minutes after I finished the campaign.  I played in the free roam map and it was very underwhelming.  There were a lot of other people there but I only actually saw/interacted with a couple, and they were both fishing.  It just seemed very empty.  I realize there were jobs I could have done, but I just rode around just to see what else was going on...nothing.  Is there going to be an end goal for free roam or will it be this way when the beta period is over?

  13. On 1/11/2019 at 11:18 AM, Stvnbgo said:

     Online is supposed to be either you can roam by yourself, or with the posse. do missions, side missions, and, or PVP lobbies. What it is not is.. it is not cod, it is not a PVP free for all. It’s supposed to be like the story, but you can play with your friend. Currently you cannot go hunting alone, or fishing alone, because a Grefer will come out of nowhere and just take you out.

    Well I think Rockstar should have anticipated this and the areas where there wasn't supposed to be human vs human fighting should have been set so no damage could be done.

    I forgot to mention my first few minutes in online awhile back were like this.  I was riding through St. Denis greeting people along the way when I came upon a group of humans.  They were surrounding another couple of humans who had hog-tied another and had placed him on the train tracks.  As I was riding by this, taking it all in, another human came by, pulled me off my horse, hog-tied me and tried to put me on the tracks.  Yet another human shoots and kills the guy holding me, unties me, and then rides off.  Being my first taste of online I just figured this was how it was going to go.

    Based on what you said online is supposed to be I understand now why there's so much negativity toward the griefers.  It'll be interesting to see how they "fix it".

  14. On 1/9/2019 at 5:45 AM, Minimoni said:

    I hate the online part of this game as it is at the moment, I have decided to not continue to play the online as it is. I would play if I could PVE with a group of friends and play missions together without other people shooting me all the time. This game is not mechanically made to be PvP, it is made purely to be PVE and that is why online feels so broken. 

    You are a million times correct.  I posted in another griefer post wondering to myself what RDR2 Online is supposed to be.  I guess I never heard exactly what to expect from online, but it would be nice to know exactly what its supposed to be.  Is it a free roam area where you complete missions solo or in a posse?  It would seem shooting other players you see is a bad thing.  So, is there not PvP in Online at all?  I was in online for a few mins after I beat the campaign but haven't been in since.  Now I'm wondering if I should just wait.

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  15. 11 hours ago, Stvnbgo said:

     This Grefer was completely harassing me and my friends for over a half hour. I got so fed up that I finally decided to report him to rockstar into Xbox. I made the mistake of letting him know how upset I was and that I had reported him for grieving us. He retaliated and now I’m banned from Xbox live for three days. Rockstar needs to do something about Griefers immediately. It’s not fair that all I’m doing is trying to play a game and I can’t do that in peace. I have screenshots of this kid messaging me back and laughing at me because I’m the one that got band instead of him. 

    Wow, that doesn't sound good.  I only played a few minutes of online once I beat the campaign.  Is this a thing now for most everyone, being griefed?  I guess I still don't understand the point of online in the first place.  Is it supposed to be a PvP playground, or, are you supposed to complete missions while solo or in a posse?  I guess it could be both but if you kill somebody at random are you considered a griefer?  I really want to understand what online is supposed to be before I dive back into it.

  16. So, I finished the game's main story and the epilogue chapters.


    Once I'm done and now playing as Marston can I still hunt/kill the legendary animals?  Also, will I be able to get to 100 percent completion this way?

    Thanks for all of the replies fellers.  I'm taking a short break from RDR2 while I catch up on Just Cause.  I'm a bit worried about RDR2 Online though based on watching a bunch of youtube vids on the monetization that's going on, but that's another topic.

  17. 57 minutes ago, Dubya75 said:

    Of course there is a difference between having HDR turned on or off in RDR2. But the big problem is that HDR turned ON looks like garbage. It is NOT what HDR is supposed to look like. Not even close!

    Run God Of War, and toggle HDR on and off. Then you will understand what HDR should look like.

    Hmmm, not sure what else to say.  HDR turned on on my Xbox One X and my LG TV and playing RDR2 or AC:Odyssey looks amazing, not at all like "garbage".  Are there screen pics or vids showing both HDR and no HDR that you can share because maybe I don't have my Xbox and/or TV setup properly and when I think I'm outputting 4K/HDR I'm actually not.

  18. 18 minutes ago, Truth said:

    I got everything setup, and I can definitely see the difference. I can't say that it's displaying in 4k hdr like it says it should, but it definitely looks better than it did before I set it up. I simply don't have much to compare it with. Maybe I'll try it on AC origins at some point. That's probably the only other game I would expect to look "enhanced".


    There's no need for that man... Some of us just don't have all that much experience with this fancy technology.

    It's just as big a difference for me as it was when I played AC:Odyssey in 4K HDR.  I think no matter what I say to Dubya he'll find some reason to say its wrong.  What I'm seeing doesn't lie though.

  19. 16 minutes ago, Dubya75 said:

    So basically you are saying HDR is some kind of mystical thing which can't be measured but has to be perceived??? REALLY? 

    Don't trust a color profile prepped by a computer? You do realize that the games you are playing (even RDR2) is COMPUTER- generated and that every pixel is a computer generated unit accounted for and can therefore be measured with absolute mathematical precision? 

    HDR constitutes mathematical calculation and rendering of color. By definition, HDR is an expansion of color range, which can be measured with absolute mathematical accuracy and precision. Digital Foundry measured this and found that it is not in fact, accurate HDR. Because in order for a range of color to be HDR, it needs to have a certain mathematically accurate color range. It is absolutely measurable. It is not a matter of perception, but of absolute mathematical accuracy.

    Everyone sees things differently, but 2+2 ALWAYS equals 4 no matter how you try to "see" something else.

    You are unfortunately completely ignorant of the fact and on top of that completely delusional. Not a good combination.


    Man, you sure like the name calling don't you.  I know what my eyes can see.  I realize this is a forum and we're free to express opinion.  Again, I could care less about the stats.  My eyes are the true measure of what looks good or not.

  20. 7 hours ago, Dubya75 said:

    You are either blind of delusional. Because HDR is broken. It literally and technically DOES NOT WORK. Digital Foundry proved this by measuring the color range.

    Well, I'm neither blind nor delusional.  My eyes can see a huge difference in HDR before and after I turned it on.  Everything was improved, colors, shading, the difference was staggering.  Digital Foundry doesn't have my eye perspective and I could give a crap about a color chart prepped by a PC.  Everyone sees things differently.  I compared with no HDR and with and for me it was a major upgrade.

  21. On 11/30/2018 at 11:43 AM, Truth said:

    I just made the upgrade last week (to the xbox one x) and couldn't tell the difference. Then I realized yesterday that I have to actually change a few settings for things to work correctly. That's my project for tonight...

    Hopefully adjusting the settings will make it better. I was really disappointed that it looked the exact same...

    It makes a HUGE difference once I turned on HDR for all my 4K LG inputs.  I'm surprised the LG TV didn't do that on its own sensing the input but I guess they're not as smart as I thought they were.

  22. On 10/31/2018 at 2:26 PM, BropolloCreed79 said:

    Not to be contrarian, but the human eye can absolutely tell the difference between 1080p and 4K:


    My eyesight is very, very good (not bragging, it's just a fact).  I play on a 60" 4K set that's about five feet in front of me, and the difference between 1080p and 4K in video is glaring.

    I understand that a lot of people (like my wife) don't see the difference between standard def and 720p or from 720 to 1080.  That's fine, but my wife also refuses to wear her glasses unless we're going to the movies.  For her, the difference is indistinguishable without her glasses, and I would suspect that people with eye issues are going to have that problem regardless.


    I don't get it with the people who can't tell there's a difference, unless its like you said above.  My initial issue was I didn't realize I had to "turn on" HDR on my 4K LG I recently bought.  All my ports had to be turned on, cable, Xbox, etc. or I wasn't getting an HDR input.  The difference is staggering to my eyes, both for RDR2 and AC: Odyssey.

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  23. On 10/31/2018 at 1:04 PM, PZA1982 said:

    Considering the human eye cannot see in 4K, and not many people have a 4K TV if things aren't optimised correctly it will look worse than the SDR. And if you've shelled out all that extra money for the tiny boost it gives you I'd imagine you'd be quite annoyed to actually receive an inferior product. It's nitpicking really though, I agree. And it serves people right for paying through the nose for unnecessary tech just to have "the best" to show off about.

    What're you talking about, just PS4 Pro???   I had bought a Xbox One X because my Xbox One decided to crap out.  I had to upgrade my TV due to the one I had slowly becoming hard to see due to black splotches affecting it.  Initially I didn't have HDR setup right so I played RDR2 without it.  It looked great, by man, by the time I did figure out how to setup both the TV and Xbox with HRD, it was simply amazing.  You have to see it to believe it.  I don't know how you can say people can't see 4K, but I can certainly see the difference 4K and HDR provide.

  24. On 11/29/2018 at 1:12 AM, gigemaggs99 said:

    Jumped on Netflix tonight just to watch this series, the wife says there are other shows she might want to see but we're going to keep the free month starting out so we can watch this series. First 2 down, so far so good! 

    I just finished the first 2 episodes as well.  I like it a lot.  We need more of this on TV, that's for sure.

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