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It was because of Red Dead Redemption that I first started watching Hickock's videos. I like his stuff because you get a little history lesson as well as watching him smoke pot 

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I love his channel and been a fan for years.

This is a good example for those few I've heard that say the weapons of this period were not accurate or even dependable.  Big misconception some have about that.

Another funny thing is how fast the SAA (I think they call it the Cattleman in RDR2) reloads in the game.  The player is actually ejecting and reloading at the same time.  I have SA Blackhawk (basically a modern SAA) and while I can eject the brass and reload it relatively effectively, it takes a lot longer than what the game portrays.  

Great post and link @Abysstic

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You have a Ruger two screw? A better copy of a Colt Peace Maker. I had A 1969 3 screw. Freakin lightning fast. 

They are the fastest revolver to unload, and the slowest to load. 

Two styles of doing this. Punch them all out, then fillem back in. Or The way I do it is, Punch one out, put one in.

Tip outs and break opens fixed the slow reload time. 

 

As far as Hicky goes, do not confuse real ballistics with game ones. What Ive seen already has my blood boiling.

As far as what I will have that is easy. A pair of Peace Makers, a Sharps Buffalo, and a 22 rimfire.

Kinda what I have in real life 🙂

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HI. Yes I was very surprised with the weapon models, seem to be real accurate. And I was very surprised that the volcanic pistol is a real gun, a very rare real gun. But unlike in the game where it is supposed to be the most powerful pistol, the company went out of business. One reason was because they chose to use a weak cartridge. Smith, Wesson, Winchester and Henry were all involved. Of course we know where they ended up.

I shoot Cowboy Action Matches and use guns like in the game 2-3 times a month.

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54 minutes ago, Paladin said:

You have a Ruger two screw? A better copy of a Colt Peace Maker. I had A 1969 3 screw. Freakin lightning fast. 

They are the fastest revolver to unload, and the slowest to load. 

Two styles of doing this. Punch them all out, then fillem back in. Or The way I do it is, Punch one out, put one in.

Tip outs and break opens fixed the slow reload time. 

 

As far as Hicky goes, do not confuse real ballistics with game ones. What Ive seen already has my blood boiling.

As far as what I will have that is easy. A pair of Peace Makers, a Sharps Buffalo, and a 22 rimfire.

Kinda what I have in real life 🙂

Yep....  It's a 2 screw 6 1/2" that I bought new in the late 80s or early 90s.  I think the Vaquero made its debut shortly after so it was around that time.  I also recall looking at a Blackhawk convertible with a 9x19 cylinder along with the .357 / .38 it came with.  .....kinda wish I got that. Would have been nice to have a weapon that shot 9mm since I never bought one that fires that caliber in all these years.  I'm more of a 1911 guy and my other pistol is a .44 Magnum 629.   ....then of course the .22s.    

I know the old 3 screws are rather sought after.  It would have been nice to have the old 4 click mechanics like the original simply for historical interest but it's still a great revolver.  ......and I can load all six cylinders for carry without worry.  ;)

Yeah, as far as reloading, I cradle the gun in my left hand and rotate the cylinder with that middle finger and thumb while using my right to punch them out with the plunger (if that makes sense).  I then do the same with the left and use the right to insert the cartridges.  I never tried unloading and then reloading one into each chamber at a time.  Seems a lot faster just unloading them all and then reloading.   .....but then again, I was never in any rush to do so.  Unloading is definitely faster though especially after shooting the first cylinder full of the session as they can sometimes just drop out on their own.  

My Dad has a Winchester model 94 (30-30) and a Super Blackhawk among others.  .....fun stuff.  While not historical relics themselves, these similar, newer versions of these iconic weapons still evoke thoughts and feelings of those times in history.   

 

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I can attest to hickok45’s assessment on rim fire ammo. I have an antique Remington 32 rimfire single shot that’s pretty much a wall hanger now. I couldn’t hit the broad side of the barn if I were inside with the door closed, much less any varmint smaller than an oil tanker.

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6 hours ago, Kean_1 said:

    

I know the old 3 screws are rather sought after.  It would have been nice to have the old 4 click mechanics like the original simply for historical interest but it's still a great revolver.  ......and I can load all six cylinders for carry without worry.  ;)

A Modern Lie.

I carried my 2 screw for years, the way they carried the peace maker, fully loaded and on first ****. Dropped it several times (doing quick draw).

Never went off. The deceptive you tube video that the guy hits his with a 2x4 and it goes off. Well he had the firing pin set against the round. I call him a lair.

You just had to be smarter to stay alive. Just like the lawyered up Winchesters and Marlin after 1980. Only fools buy them, or do like I did to many, removed the cross bolt safety. Funny from 1894 to 1979 they didn't come with them, and then someone shot themselves with one, and now everyone suffers. 

I am not a pistol person, don't have any use for them. That's why I sold the 3 screw. We do own a modern 45ACP, the medium woman can use it. Ill take the 1895 Marlin in 45/70 for home defense any day.

Hickok45 is always entertaining, and mostly accurate. He also follow the dandy way of loading 5 shots in a six shooter. Meow.

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4 hours ago, Paladin said:

 

I am not a pistol person, don't have any use for them. That's why I sold the 3 screw. We do own a modern 45ACP, the medium woman can use it. Ill take the 1895 Marlin in 45/70 for home defense any day.

 

 

It’s all opinion and what tool suits you best. I am not gifted with the innate ability some folks have for shooting, I actually have to work at it. To me using a 45/70 to defend a home is not an option it just costs to much to train with for my personal acceptable level of competency. If that makes me less of a person in someone’s opinion then so be it. I prefer to be better trained then lucky.... but again that’s just my opinion.

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4 hours ago, Paladin said:

A Modern Lie.

I carried my 2 screw for years, the way they carried the peace maker, fully loaded and on first ****. Dropped it several times (doing quick draw).

Never went off. The deceptive you tube video that the guy hits his with a 2x4 and it goes off. Well he had the firing pin set against the round. I call him a lair.

You just had to be smarter to stay alive. Just like the lawyered up Winchesters and Marlin after 1980. Only fools buy them, or do like I did to many, removed the cross bolt safety. Funny from 1894 to 1979 they didn't come with them, and then someone shot themselves with one, and now everyone suffers. 

I am not a pistol person, don't have any use for them. That's why I sold the 3 screw. We do own a modern 45ACP, the medium woman can use it. Ill take the 1895 Marlin in 45/70 for home defense any day.

Hickok45 is always entertaining, and mostly accurate. He also follow the dandy way of loading 5 shots in a six shooter. Meow.

 

I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree on the carry with 5 topic.  I know some are comfortable carrying with 6 in the design in question and I won't argue that. There's plenty of information out there on the topic for folks that are interested.

On the flip side, I never personally experienced an issue with a transfer bar in my Blackhawk over the course of 30 years and countless .38 & .357 ammo.  ......and its is still a great shooter for what it is. 

I like guns of all types and if I could, I'd own a lot more than I do. I like the historical significance of some, designs, fun factor and practicality of others.  They aren't just tools for me to own. I have weapons that have no other use to me but for fun / interest. 

Funny, as look back, no one in my family has ever sold a gun and I don't think any of us have ever even considered it. Although I do have friends that trade and sell all the time as they get bored some, etc.

I like Hickock 45. He's genuine and isn't full of himself like some other YT personalities out there. I also like channels like Ian McCollum's Forgotten Weapons. Really cool and interesting designs & history behind a lot of the guns he showcases.

 

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30 minutes ago, Abysstic said:

It’s all opinion and what tool suits you best. I am not gifted with the innate ability some folks have for shooting, I actually have to work at it. To me using a 45/70 to defend a home is not an option it just costs to much to train with for my personal acceptable level of competency. If that makes me less of a person in someone’s opinion then so be it. I prefer to be better trained then lucky.... but again that’s just my opinion.

I've got to work at it as well with the exception of 1911s. Those guns simply feel natural to me. Now I'm not talking competition level here, fast draw, operator tactics, etc.  ......just getting lead on target.  

I don't get out to the range as much as I'd like or perhaps I should.

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I make my own 45/70 just like the troopers did in the 1870s. About 11 cents a round, and sitting watching the game, and knock them out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3duhNVjAu6E

The two screw Rugers with the transfer bar, you can load all six absolutely safe.

They just dont have a smooth lightning fast single action like the 3 screws.

Like I said, I sold mine 🙂

 

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14 minutes ago, Paladin said:

I make my own 45/70 just like the troopers did in the 1870s. About 11 cents a round, and sitting watching the game, and knock them out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3duhNVjAu6E

The two screw Rugers with the transfer bar, you can load all six absolutely safe.

They just dont have a smooth lightning fast single action like the 3 screws.

Like I said, I sold mine 🙂

 

Yeah, that's what I hear.  The action on the 3 screws was noticeably better.  

Why some people purposely sent their 3 screws in to be converted is beyond me.  If I had one, I would have kept it as is.  I even heard that if they sent theirs in for other work, Ruger would do the conversion regardless (liability legal bull crap).  

IIRC, the new Vaquero brought back the 4 click mechanics while retaining the transfer bar. 

Thought about some of the Uberti replicas.  Their quality these days seems to be pretty decent and there's no way I'm going to get my hands on originals let alone be bothered to search for them.  Something about shooting those types of weapons provides a peek back in time.  It's a fun experience.  

All I want now is an M1A Scout and I'll be happy.

  

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Its a free up grade, I would never do it, too much negative press in the forums.

Someday I'd like to have a Colt copy The Cattleman in 45 Colt looks real nice.  I can down size the 45/70 250gr flat noses (.460) and stuff them in a 45 Colt case (.454). My Bud uses them to shoot moles on his property. But then Id have to get  a lever in 45 Colt too, and all the fixins. Another money hole I do not need. Just want. My bucket of 45/70s will do just fine.

My Bud in L.A. was selling one of his M1as, dont know if its the tanker or standard. Ill stick with the M1 Garand. PING!

 

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5 minutes ago, Paladin said:

Its a free up grade, I would never do it, too much negative press in the forums.

Someday I'd like to have a Colt copy The Cattleman in 45 Colt looks real nice.  I can down size the 45/70 250gr flat noses (.460) and stuff them in a 45 Colt case (.454). My Bud uses them to shoot moles on his property. But then Id have to get  a lever in 45 Colt too, and all the fixins. Another money hole I do not need. Just want. My bucket of 45/70s will do just fine.

My Bud in L.A. was selling one of his M1as, dont know if its the tanker or standard. Ill stick with the M1 Garand. PING!

 

Yeah, they do a good job at making their replicas look authentic.  .....and apparently they are good shooters too.  I had also had my eye on the Cattleman.

I certainly wouldn't mind Garand but I like the M1A for the flexibility (for my needs) which is why it's on my short list.  I also like the Scout given it shaves 4 inches off the stock barrel length (18" vs. 22").  Makes it a bit more portable and maneuverable without taking away the classic "look" of the rifle IMO.  .....the SOCOM is only two inches shorter but just looks weird to me (too short).  

I'd probably buy new as I rarely by used unless I know the seller.  .....nothing wrong with used, I just like new guns.  My S&W 629 was the only one I ever bought used but I couldn't pass it up for the price.  Also, the seller (my friend) had only shot one cylinder full of ammo before deciding the gun was too much for him.  When I bought it , I put a Pachmayr Decelerator grip on it, now I can shoot it all day with magnum loads with little discomfort.  

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I have both the Garand and a original SOCOM16.  The M1A makes it to the range more, but the Garand is a sentimental favorite. Original M2 ball is a little more sparse than the 7.62x51(.308). The weight is definatly noticeable, but I drive to the range and don’t need to hike there with a full pack.

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1 hour ago, Abysstic said:

I have both the Garand and a original SOCOM16.  The M1A makes it to the range more, but the Garand is a sentimental favorite. Original M2 ball is a little more sparse than the 7.62x51(.308). The weight is definatly noticeable, but I drive to the range and don’t need to hike there with a full pack.

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On 12/7/2018 at 6:59 PM, HooverRAD said:

It was because of Red Dead Redemption that I first started watching Hickock's videos. I like his stuff because you get a little history lesson as well as watching him smoke pot 

Same here. I watched this one the other day. I like well-educated smokers. Not just the lazy ones who do nothing with their time. If you are going to smoke, use your brain don't just eat, laugh, and pass out. 

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