GFCB Posted November 7, 2018 Posted November 7, 2018 In this article you can read that the RDR2 Online Beta will start from 9 November, so possibly we could get a Title Update Friday, let's hope! https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/gaming/1040634/Red-Dead-2-Online-release-date-news-Battle-Royale-PS4-Xbox-One
Guest Posted November 7, 2018 Posted November 7, 2018 https://gamingbolt.com/red-dead-redemption-2-hdr-blurring-issues-being-worked-on-says-rockstar
theLich Posted November 7, 2018 Posted November 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Dubya75 said: It is possible that they aren't giving a sh*t, but this would be surprising considering they spent all these years making this game. This is now their flagship game so it would be hard to believe they don't give a sh*t about it. No one can make a game like RDR2 and not be absolutely passionate about it. I may be a little naive, but I want to believe they are working really hard trying to fix this. They are just not communicating about it. This is R* remember. They don't operate like most other game developers. They are very secretive about what they do. I do not excuse them for releasing the game in this state at all, but it is done. All we can really do is wait and see if this issue gets addressed. If not, we will have to decide what we want to do. Either to stop buying R* games (which I sense is not an option) or to bite the bullet and buy an XBOX ONE X and another copy of the game. R* is an unstoppable force and they know it. They will get away with this if it is their intention to ignore the issue. 1 hour ago, khajiit1 said: This is starting to be my perception as well. Far Cry 5 (I know, different dev) didn’t really communicate out before bug fixes and they fixed some of the big ones weeks after release. With you on this one lads. Neither playing the game nor joining the One X gang until at least the first patch (thank God for all the work that has piled up in the recent days, for as a western fan I got a serious itch to return to RDR 2 one way or the other). 1) Game IS a masterpiece in most departments. 2) While absolutely 'weaker' than One X, Pros still have great-looking games. 3) Remember when we started to get real bits and pieces of info about the game that was in development for many years. R* sure is a secretive bunch (may not do them as much good now, when RDR2 is already out) - while support is absolutely unhelpful, I kinda feel for them as they may be in the dark on account of what the devs are actually doing. Stay strong!
Why? Posted November 7, 2018 Posted November 7, 2018 Respons from ASA about overal performance, 4k advert and fake hdr Thank you for contacting the ASA with your complaint about Take-Two. We’ve assessed your complaint, and have decided to open a formal investigation into the matter. One of my colleagues in our Investigations Team will be in touch in due course. Thank you for your patience in the meantime. Kind regards,
theLich Posted November 7, 2018 Posted November 7, 2018 24 minutes ago, Why? said: Respons from ASA about overal performance, 4k advert and fake hdr Thank you for contacting the ASA with your complaint about Take-Two. We’ve assessed your complaint, and have decided to open a formal investigation into the matter. One of my colleagues in our Investigations Team will be in touch in due course. Thank you for your patience in the meantime. Kind regards, Meanwhile on your phone...
tyler44 Posted November 7, 2018 Posted November 7, 2018 1 hour ago, WRESTLiNGHDD said: https://gamingbolt.com/red-dead-redemption-2-hdr-blurring-issues-being-worked-on-says-rockstar No where in this article R* says that they acknowledge the problem
Ross101 Posted November 7, 2018 Author Posted November 7, 2018 I just want a patch now the longer it takes the more Iv nearly completed the game and the less i will care
GMak81 Posted November 7, 2018 Posted November 7, 2018 I just joined the forum specifically as I had googled the PS4 Pro "blurry" issue. Having pre-ordered RDR2 (a first for me) I then decided to delay install to wait for bug patches, as I didn't want my experience marred. Therefore I can't speak from personal experience, but as I'm currently re-playing GTA V on my Pro with Super Sampling and Boost Mode, through a Phillips Ambilight 4K, I have to say GTA looks beautiful! With RDR2 I've read so many comments from people massively disappointed with the presentation on the Pro...is it really that bad? Watching footage on YT (trying to avoid spoilers) just to see what it looked like...I have to say, even through my basic PC and a HD monitor I think it looks great. So my question is: does the game really look that bad? Or is it simply that people got their expectations too high? It seems weird that Rockstar won't issue an official statement when they had a marketing deal with Sony - and the guy in the shop where I bought the game, himself a One X owner, said that he thought the game would run better on PS4 because of that relationship between Sony and R*. The fact that this doesn't seem to be a universal complaint makes me wonder whether there are some strange individual PS/TV interface issues (beyond my understanding), or whether certain people are just disappointed with the way the game looks. Is it unplayable? Maybe I should just install it and see for myself, but surely if I can appreciate GTA V with boost, RDR2 will still blow me away visually?
artur89 Posted November 7, 2018 Posted November 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, GMak81 said: I just joined the forum specifically as I had googled the PS4 Pro "blurry" issue. Having pre-ordered RDR2 (a first for me) I then decided to delay install to wait for bug patches, as I didn't want my experience marred. Therefore I can't speak from personal experience, but as I'm currently re-playing GTA V on my Pro with Super Sampling and Boost Mode, through a Phillips Ambilight 4K, I have to say GTA looks beautiful! With RDR2 I've read so many comments from people massively disappointed with the presentation on the Pro...is it really that bad? Watching footage on YT (trying to avoid spoilers) just to see what it looked like...I have to say, even through my basic PC and a HD monitor I think it looks great. So my question is: does the game really look that bad? Or is it simply that people got their expectations too high? It seems weird that Rockstar won't issue an official statement when they had a marketing deal with Sony - and the guy in the shop where I bought the game, himself a One X owner, said that he thought the game would run better on PS4 because of that relationship between Sony and R*. The fact that this doesn't seem to be a universal complaint makes me wonder whether there are some strange individual PS/TV interface issues (beyond my understanding), or whether certain people are just disappointed with the way the game looks. Is it unplayable? Maybe I should just install it and see for myself, but surely if I can appreciate GTA V with boost, RDR2 will still blow me away visually? Yes, it is really bad but you can play at 1080p with hdr disabled, the actual state of the game on ps4 pro is unacceptable.
tyler44 Posted November 7, 2018 Posted November 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, GMak81 said: I just joined the forum specifically as I had googled the PS4 Pro "blurry" issue. Having pre-ordered RDR2 (a first for me) I then decided to delay install to wait for bug patches, as I didn't want my experience marred. Therefore I can't speak from personal experience, but as I'm currently re-playing GTA V on my Pro with Super Sampling and Boost Mode, through a Phillips Ambilight 4K, I have to say GTA looks beautiful! With RDR2 I've read so many comments from people massively disappointed with the presentation on the Pro...is it really that bad? Watching footage on YT (trying to avoid spoilers) just to see what it looked like...I have to say, even through my basic PC and a HD monitor I think it looks great. So my question is: does the game really look that bad? Or is it simply that people got their expectations too high? It seems weird that Rockstar won't issue an official statement when they had a marketing deal with Sony - and the guy in the shop where I bought the game, himself a One X owner, said that he thought the game would run better on PS4 because of that relationship between Sony and R*. The fact that this doesn't seem to be a universal complaint makes me wonder whether there are some strange individual PS/TV interface issues (beyond my understanding), or whether certain people are just disappointed with the way the game looks. Is it unplayable? Maybe I should just install it and see for myself, but surely if I can appreciate GTA V with boost, RDR2 will still blow me away visually? it depends on the individual! it's like a game with poore performance, some people will feel it when they play it and some don't, but I can assure you that the problem with the blurry image is true and if you lucky you are not that sensitive like the people in this thread
lemkys gaming Posted November 7, 2018 Posted November 7, 2018 On 11/4/2018 at 3:35 PM, 0ldKen said: Lemkys, seriously? My buddy has it on 1x. I saw it yesterday. It was very clear and sharp. Maybe not PERFECT... but clear and sharp... are you just messing with us? Have you tried turning HDR off? II'm talking extreme motion blur. With the Pro however, don't forget the game runs 1920x2160, and not 3840x2160. Maybe part of the problem?
Ross101 Posted November 7, 2018 Author Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) 34 minutes ago, GMak81 said: I just joined the forum specifically as I had googled the PS4 Pro "blurry" issue. Having pre-ordered RDR2 (a first for me) I then decided to delay install to wait for bug patches, as I didn't want my experience marred. Therefore I can't speak from personal experience, but as I'm currently re-playing GTA V on my Pro with Super Sampling and Boost Mode, through a Phillips Ambilight 4K, I have to say GTA looks beautiful! With RDR2 I've read so many comments from people massively disappointed with the presentation on the Pro...is it really that bad? Watching footage on YT (trying to avoid spoilers) just to see what it looked like...I have to say, even through my basic PC and a HD monitor I think it looks great. So my question is: does the game really look that bad? Or is it simply that people got their expectations too high? It seems weird that Rockstar won't issue an official statement when they had a marketing deal with Sony - and the guy in the shop where I bought the game, himself a One X owner, said that he thought the game would run better on PS4 because of that relationship between Sony and R*. The fact that this doesn't seem to be a universal complaint makes me wonder whether there are some strange individual PS/TV interface issues (beyond my understanding), or whether certain people are just disappointed with the way the game looks. Is it unplayable? Maybe I should just install it and see for myself, but surely if I can appreciate GTA V with boost, RDR2 will still blow me away visually? Personally it varies for me from playable to so distracting I can’t be bothered and turn it off what makes it worse is if you press the share button it takes off the blur it really depends for me how bad it is and I have no idea what determines it and for the record it has nothing to do with “how sensitive” you are the game at times is a damn right blurry mess Edited November 7, 2018 by Ross101
GMak81 Posted November 7, 2018 Posted November 7, 2018 I guess I was using some wishful thinking to convince myself it was all okay. I've loved Rockstar games since the first GTA, and have played them all aside from a few add-ons. Having seen the trailers, and experienced the eye candy that is God of War, I was looking forward to something truly special with RDR2. How this situation has arisen is beyond me. I thought this would be a project of passion from R*, what with the amount of work involved to make the game. I really, really don't understand why they allowed this situation with Pro to come about. There is absolutely no way I can justify buying a One X for one game, so I guess I'll install it soon and have a look for myself, and if it isn't up to spec I'll wait to play until a patch comes out. But to not even issue a statement...wow. I guess R* know that because their titles are so unique and universally loved, people will buy them and put up with a certain amount of issues, so from a business sense they aren't losing. They already have the money from the people with Pros, and will probably get a whole lot more when online comes. Let's just sit here with no idea of if and when a solution will be patched, hoping for the best. Cheers.
Ross101 Posted November 7, 2018 Author Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, GMak81 said: I guess I was using some wishful thinking to convince myself it was all okay. I've loved Rockstar games since the first GTA, and have played them all aside from a few add-ons. Having seen the trailers, and experienced the eye candy that is God of War, I was looking forward to something truly special with RDR2. How this situation has arisen is beyond me. I thought this would be a project of passion from R*, what with the amount of work involved to make the game. I really, really don't understand why they allowed this situation with Pro to come about. There is absolutely no way I can justify buying a One X for one game, so I guess I'll install it soon and have a look for myself, and if it isn't up to spec I'll wait to play until a patch comes out. But to not even issue a statement...wow. I guess R* know that because their titles are so unique and universally loved, people will buy them and put up with a certain amount of issues, so from a business sense they aren't losing. They already have the money from the people with Pros, and will probably get a whole lot more when online comes. Let's just sit here with no idea of if and when a solution will be patched, hoping for the best. Cheers. Let’s hope we get a patch soon I genuinely think this is an easy fix and personally I don’t think it’s anything to do with the game upscaling i wouldn’t let it put you off from playing it’s still an excellent game Edited November 7, 2018 by Ross101 1
pluggy Posted November 7, 2018 Posted November 7, 2018 12 minutes ago, GMak81 said: I guess I was using some wishful thinking to convince myself it was all okay. I've loved Rockstar games since the first GTA, and have played them all aside from a few add-ons. Having seen the trailers, and experienced the eye candy that is God of War, I was looking forward to something truly special with RDR2. How this situation has arisen is beyond me. I thought this would be a project of passion from R*, what with the amount of work involved to make the game. I really, really don't understand why they allowed this situation with Pro to come about. There is absolutely no way I can justify buying a One X for one game, so I guess I'll install it soon and have a look for myself, and if it isn't up to spec I'll wait to play until a patch comes out. But to not even issue a statement...wow. I guess R* know that because their titles are so unique and universally loved, people will buy them and put up with a certain amount of issues, so from a business sense they aren't losing. They already have the money from the people with Pros, and will probably get a whole lot more when online comes. Let's just sit here with no idea of if and when a solution will be patched, hoping for the best. Cheers. play it, you might be lucky and not get the blurry effect, i have seen my friend play it on his pro and it looks so so good,not blurry or washed out at all, mine though is a small bit blurry but it got an awful lot better after a few hrs (was not that bad to begin with compared to some other i have seen) the game is a masterpiece,and probably the best R* have ever done.
Ross101 Posted November 7, 2018 Author Posted November 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, pluggy said: play it, you might be lucky and not get the blurry effect, i have seen my friend play it on his pro and it looks so so good,not blurry or washed out at all, mine though is a small bit blurry but it got an awful lot better after a few hrs (was not that bad to begin with compared to some other i have seen) the game is a masterpiece,and probably the best R* have ever done. Try and play it for an extended period of time mine goes from looking fine to looking like sh*t 1
pluggy Posted November 7, 2018 Posted November 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ross101 said: Try and play it for an extended period of time mine goes from looking fine to looking like sh*t thats a pity mate and i feel for you, mine does not thankfully.
Ross101 Posted November 7, 2018 Author Posted November 7, 2018 12 minutes ago, pluggy said: thats a pity mate and i feel for you, mine does not thankfully. Or your eyes have just got used to it 🤭🤷🏻♂️🤣👀👀
pluggy Posted November 7, 2018 Posted November 7, 2018 No, its just not as bad as other people are reporting,not every single person that has a p4pro is having these issues (i have seen this in person so i know this to be true)..otherwise there would be a million videos and articles and forums just like this.
Ross101 Posted November 7, 2018 Author Posted November 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, RedBlurRedemption said: This does not look official it’s just a reddit post?
theLich Posted November 7, 2018 Posted November 7, 2018 41 minutes ago, pluggy said: No, its just not as bad as other people are reporting,not every single person that has a p4pro is having these issues (i have seen this in person so i know this to be true)..otherwise there would be a million videos and articles and forums just like this. Made me feel like a graphics-wh*re right here) With One X version in one hand and some of the recent PS titles on the Pro in the other (+ heavy advertisement) - we've got to have a better 'middle' deal. *Again I'm talking 4k display experience here - you get used to some quality level and taking to account the phenomenal detail in every aspect of RDR2, the graphics are currently really underwhelming.
MN32410 Red_&_Dead Posted November 7, 2018 Posted November 7, 2018 1 hour ago, pluggy said: thats a pity mate and i feel for you, mine does not thankfully. What do you want in the thread, when all is looking good for you. Shut up. I hate it to see comments from users that think all is ok. Nothing is ok. WE do a hard job here go out off this thread. You has nothing out to loose here. 1
GMak81 Posted November 7, 2018 Posted November 7, 2018 @pluggy Hi Pluggy, you report friends with the same console giving different visual outputs...how is this possible? This means that it is not something inherent to the game itself. Therefore, it must be something to do with PS settings, such as Boost or Super Sampling interfering with something...or, and I think this is a definite possibility, TV settings. For example, on my Phillips while playing GTA if I use Natural Motion at Max, it makes things seem more 3d. It also introduces some items flickering, like the leaves on palm trees. I had convinced myself that "maximum = best", but that is not true. I've changed it to medium, and this setting is optimum for my TV, a good rendering of depth to the image, with no weird artifacts. If it was universally an issue, then it would definitely be in the game itself, but the fact that it isn't points to other causes, the most obvious being the TV and/or settings used on that screen. I'm not trying to be obtuse, it's in my nature to be curious, want answers, try to solve mysteries. Just from what you've said, and my personal experience with how complex modern screens can be, with seemingly unrelated functions majorly altering performance and visual quality, this could be the answer (Natural Motion is to do with reducing judder, but actually alters how 3d the image looks). Cheers.
RedBlurRedemption Posted November 7, 2018 Posted November 7, 2018 Why is the game sharp like a knife if I press the share button? Seems like it shows how the ps4 pro version could look like if R* wouldn’t sabotage it deliberately to push the most powerful console in the universe 🙄
artur89 Posted November 7, 2018 Posted November 7, 2018 If you read this topic you will understand what is wrong with the game, before you post please do it.
Abdarrell Posted November 7, 2018 Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) I've been following this forum and issue for over a week now, and, sadly, I finally caved and picked up an XBO X to resolve it. I work long hours at my job, waiting patiently for months to play this game, and am just tired of the day-to-day suspenseful wait to simply see whether Rockstar *is aware* of the issue. To whoever is doubting whether it's a legitimate issue on the PS4 Pro you're absolutely wrong. On the Pro with HDR the game is so muddy and blurry it looks like someone took a saturation and sharpness slider and dialed it back to -100. With HDR off a blur can be seen on character's faces and nearby objects in buildings that eventually becomes so distracting it will hurt your eyes. In 1080p the blur goes away, but the overall image quality falls noticeabl, with hair on head or horse looking pixelated and fuzzy to such an extent it looks like a PS3 game. I was prepared to be brutally honest with myself in determining whether the purchase was justified; the answer was clear within minutes. Image quality on the X has improved in all aspects substantially. There are many more details I wasn't able to see on the Pro: glitter on snow, a glow and flicker of candlelight, and lush facial animations. Overall, everything has become sharp and crisp. So to those questioning the legitimacy of this issue, don't. It's incredibly frustrating for anyone involved, and even though I have the correct experience in hand now, I definitely feel cheated. I'll play the game at least twice in first and third person and hopefully use the console for higher definition movie-watching, but hope this issue is resolved is resolved soon for those still stuck in wait. Edited November 7, 2018 by Abdarrell 1 2
0ldKen Posted November 8, 2018 Posted November 8, 2018 Not to derail, but is the xbonex capeable of being “wired” for no controller input lag like the pspro is? makes a major difference and people have complained about input lag on the x with this game.... ughhhh......
RedBlurRedemption Posted November 8, 2018 Posted November 8, 2018 48 minutes ago, artur89 said: If you read this topic you will understand what is wrong with the game, before you post please do it. I did. Every single page since the beginning. But TAA, depth of field or motion blur causing the problem doesn’t make sence to me since it’s sharp if you take a screenshot or set the ps4 to 1080p. If the above would cause this blurriness the xbox one x version would have it too, native 4K or not.
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