Rdr2 graphics blurry PS4 Pro

[Ross101]

2 hours ago, Rockstar74 said:

Rockstar isn't going to patch this.  They would have acknowledged this by now.  Beating a dead horse now I think.  Lesson to learn is to never pre-order nor buy a giant open world game day one.  Wait at least two months and you will probably pay less and have several bugs worked out.

It won’t get patched with that attitude keep making noise and they will Listen

over 50,000 people have viewed this thread so clearly it’s being noticed 

[George110]

Nothing new?

[MN32410 Red_&_Dead]

sorry guys, but the x is no option. X has a windows system. If your x is updating any games you can´t play on it, because of heavy input lag. 30 frames onx does not feel like thirty frames on the pro. It feels like you play on a lowend PC. The control of rdr2 and other games is working better on the pro. Pro is the real gaming console, the x is more a mini pc. I bought the x for three dayz with rdr2 and yes it looks really good, but runs not better as on the pro. I have more stuttering issues on the x.

Configuring the x is frustrating, when you comes from the sony consoles. 4k is not looking so much better as good looking checkerboard rendering.

If you have sensible eyes, all on the x in 30 frames is stuttering. No good gaming experience for me in 4k.
If you feel good with the XBox one, the X is the better console.

If you like the so much better exclusives of sony and want switch between a lot of menues and other stuff. Take the Pro it is in all other titles a big advantage to the standard ps4.

Edited November 8, 2018 by MN32410 Red_&_Dead

[MN32410 Red_&_Dead]

No patch for the pro no more rockstr games. This is the conclusion for me.

Edited November 8, 2018 by MN32410 Red_&_Dead

[Artyomka]

7 hours ago, MN32410 Red_&_Dead said:

Turn off supersampling can be help . You find it under your video output settings of your ps4 pro.  Go to settings/ sound and screen/video output settings/supersampling mode/ 

 

Turn off supersampling. This will give you a sharper image in 1080p mode.

 

Is Nightwulf a redneck or hillbillie ?

Ive got supersampling already off... Do you know if the "boost mode" affects on a bad way?

[Ross101]

 

i have uploaded an example of the blurring which can clearly be seen and is removed when I press the share button

Before and after same shot one with share button pressed 

Edited November 8, 2018 by Ross101

[khajiit1]

16 minutes ago, Ross101 said:

 

i have uploaded an example of the blurring which can clearly be seen and is removed when I press the share button

Yep, that’s what i found as well and the fact that it’s that apparent on a mobile video, means it’s actually way worse in person. The fact that the blur effect goes away from simply freezing the frame gives me hope. I would post this on the Rockstar support forum as well if you can.

[0ldKen]

Great pics Ross! Yep. That’s undeniable.

[Ross101]

19 minutes ago, 0ldKen said:

Great pics Ross! Yep. That’s undeniable.

The problem is someone will try by telling me it’s either my tv or they have a pro and it’s “fine” 😂

[0ldKen]

I know brother. I know.

[artur89]

This game will be available on pc, just wait.😉

Spoiler

 

 

 

Edited November 9, 2018 by artur89

[MN32410 Red_&_Dead]

Just now, Ross101 said:

 

i have uploaded an example of the blurring which can clearly be seen and is removed when I press the share button

 

 

Before and after same shot one with share button pressed 

Yes I´ve read it. I´ve test it but for me it is not working.

I don´t know if the fog of the game is an issue too. When I´m in the camps of the gang all is ultra blurry. Nothing is helping for that horrible blur. Trees looking like PS3 trees.

 

Big Thanxs for the great pictures.

The mist is to strong in camps. This is a horrible mistake. Oh I´m Joking a little.

Hhhmmm as the firmware update with the boostmode comes out last year, i read something about, that the boostmode only affecting older games.
I will test it in a few hours again. I have it not tested in the camp of dutchs gang.

I will write later. In germany we have midnight right now

 

The sharpenslider affects the game for me in a positive way. But, man, starting in 1080p and switching to 2160p rgb resolution, setting the slider to lowest setting setiing it back and than you can play is not a good solution.

Edited November 9, 2018 by MN32410 Red_&_Dead

[MN32410 Red_&_Dead]

I will show you two videos that I found about bad TAA implementation

 

A newer example from shadows of the tomb raider

 

switch to 2.40 miin and you can see why I think it has nothing to do with the checkerboard rendering. This is native resolution.I think they use a checkerboard taa on the pro to push performance. On the X they use the quality TAA.It can be that the checkerboard resolution and the checkerboard TAA impacts each other. THis can be the reason for the inconstantly blu effect.

You can see in the tomb raider video the taa kills all the detail. I´m playing it in a widescreen resolution without Antialiasing. It looks horrible.

Edited November 9, 2018 by MN32410 Red_&_Dead

[GMak81]

@Ross101 I wasn't trying to be awkward by making my posts wondering if this issue is Tv settings related, I was trying to work through to a viable solution to the puzzle.  I'm sorry you're having issues, and those pics/videos you posted make the issue clear as day.

It's just very strange to me that this isn't being reported universally by all Pro users.  I conversed with a mate from a GT Sport Discord earlier today, he has a Pro and 4K TV.  I asked if he had any experience with the blurring issue, and mentioned that a lot of people were very unhappy.  He said it looked beautiful and he had no issues, and thought that TV settings could be the issue.

In some instances, there clearly IS an issue with blurriness, but it's not universal, as another poster in this thread stated that some of their friends Pros were displaying very nice images - which means it has got to be the Tv settings.  Is there any other logical explanation?  How can it be the game itself, because if it was the game every player on Pro would be seeing the same thing - the only variations are individual TV/settings/PS4 Pro settings.

I'm not raising these points to be annoying (that's not my intention anyway), I'm just trying to think through all the evidence in a logical manner.

 

[MN32410 Red_&_Dead]

Just now, GMak81 said:

@Ross101 I wasn't trying to be awkward by making my posts wondering if this issue is Tv settings related, I was trying to work through to a viable solution to the puzzle.  I'm sorry you're having issues, and those pics/videos you posted make the issue clear as day.

It's just very strange to me that this isn't being reported universally by all Pro users.  I conversed with a mate from a GT Sport Discord earlier today, he has a Pro and 4K TV.  I asked if he had any experience with the blurring issue, and mentioned that a lot of people were very unhappy.  He said it looked beautiful and he had no issues, and thought that TV settings could be the issue.

In some instances, there clearly IS an issue with blurriness, but it's not universal, as another poster in this thread stated that some of their friends Pros were displaying very nice images - which means it has got to be the Tv settings.  Is there any other logical explanation?  How can it be the game itself, because if it was the game every player on Pro would be seeing the same thing - the only variations are individual TV/settings/PS4 Pro settings.

I'm not raising these points to be annoying (that's not my intention anyway), I'm just trying to think through all the evidence in a logical manner.

 

 

For me the reason is the checkerboard taa is using a resolution of 1080p and the checkerboard rendering has a resolution of 2160x1080

To discribe checkerboarding taa: The image is divided into rectangles. Now it gives a big doubling effect if the rectangles of the taa and the rectangles of the checkerboard resolution have a different size of rectangles.

Here you can see what checkerboard is doing.

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/checkerboard-rendering-standard-rendering-and-upscaling.1330505/

No it has nothing to do with the tv settings. My tv is calibrated, with a calbrating tool. Look at my last video postings and you know what I mean. Sure it has something to do with the cable, It has something to do how heavy your friend raised up the sharpness on the tv. But increasing the sharpness gives not a better image quality. This is a software issue.

I´ve tested red dead on my asus g sync moitor with 144hz too. My monitor is full calibrated and uses 98% of the real srgb colours. Why you are writing this again and again. You makes me mad and angry with your postings. Why this thread has 50000 Viewers Why. It is cool for your friend that he had no issues, but i think his tv can more increase the sharpness. Modern tvs not using this big amount of sharpness.

It is the combination of checkerboard taa, checkerboard rendering and motion ****ing blur. This is the problem and not our highend premium tvs.

 

Please write nothing more in this thread. If someone of rockstar is writing your comments, they will think. Hey it is a tv problem. All this guys have wrong tv calibrations.

No words of this anymore ok.

 

Edited November 9, 2018 by MN32410 Red_&_Dead

[khajiit1]

Ok so I’ve been testing tonight and found out something else:

if you press the trackpad to switch Points of View this happens:

Over the shoulder- blurriest

Over the shoulder 2 - a bit sharper

Over the shoulder 3 - more sharpness

First person view - sharpest view

wondwr why they implemented such strange blurring based on view point!?

[MN32410 Red_&_Dead]

Just now, khajiit1 said:

Ok so I’ve been testing tonight and found out something else:

if you press the trackpad to switch Points of View this happens:

Over the shoulder- blurriest

Over the shoulder 2 - a bit sharper

Over the shoulder 3 - more sharpness

First person view - sharpest view

wondwr why they implemented such strange blurring based on view point!?

When you switching perspectives on horseback or in running mode you can see this issue too.

This is not a western sim, this is a working sim. We work more to find a reason for all the issues and glitches as we can play and enjoy the game.

Edited November 9, 2018 by MN32410 Red_&_Dead

[khajiit1]

2 minutes ago, MN32410 Red_&_Dead said:

When you switching perspectives on horseback or in running mode you can see this issue too.

Yep, I’m on horseback right now and just notice a weird darker border at the bottom of the screen. I might be going crazy but do you see that darker border near the lower edge of the screen?

[MN32410 Red_&_Dead]

Just now, khajiit1 said:

Yep, I’m on horseback right now and just notice a weird darker border at the bottom of the screen. I might be going crazy but do you see that darker border near the lower edge of the screen?

Yes I have the border too.

[MN32410 Red_&_Dead]

I will test now the boost mode and reconstruct the scene of ross pictures. Very helpfull the pics.

[MN32410 Red_&_Dead]

It is a bit clearer without boostmode and runs faster. This is strange on all areas with massive fog the blur is much stronger. On overcast situations, sandstorms and windeffects.

another problem with volumetric fog?

[GMak81]

@MN32410 Red_&_Dead Wow, okay, that was a pretty intense response from a fellow gamer.  Maybe you need some fresh air or something.  I was polite and friendly and trying to help.  I'm genuinely sorry that you guys are disappointed, but from some of the talk on here I think some of you may need a little bit of perspective on the bigger picture, that this is a game, one among many.  Outside of games is a whole world to enjoy.  

There may or may not be an issue, as NOT EVERYONE IS REPORTING IT.  Using stupidly oversized fonts as if you are shouting at me is ridiculous.  Sure I won't bother commenting any more, although your logic that Rockstar will read some random guy's post on an unofficial forum, and decide not to act based on what I say, shows something about your mindset.

If you are that wound up about a friendly, thought through response, maybe you should give up on the game, or wait for a patch, or buy a One X which doesn't have the problem, or play something else, or demand a refund, or go to trading standards, BUT NOT TEXT SHOUT AT PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE SLIGHTLY DERANGED.

I genuinely hope the game is fixed for those having issues.  But you should not think you can police what people say.  I'll not write any more, because I understand that there is more to life than a goddamn game, unlike you it seems, so I'll just do one of the above steps I recommended so that this isn't a problem.

[0ldKen]

I worry about people that worry about “text shouting”.

[Taranto]

@GMak81 People are overreacting here and most of them don't even know what they are saying. The game does a heavily use of depth of field effect and I see some folks here reporting it as an issue. For example, when you press share button, the game removes the DoF for some reason and everything looks kind of sharp, but uglier IMO. However, I admit that the image looks a bit blurry as a whole due to a bad upscaling method. I don't think it is a big deal though. 

Edited November 9, 2018 by Taranto

[George110]

Before they fix the game, now i am playing Spiderman, (another great example, what is the real good implementation of checkerboard rendering and HDR),

[Ross101]

27 minutes ago, George110 said:

Before they fix the game, now i am playing Spiderman, (another great example, what is the real good implementation of checkerboard rendering and HDR),

That game is phenomenal in hdr 4k

[tyler44]

To the users that say we don't have a life and things like that, a lot of people including me bought a ps4 pro just for this game and spending 400€/$ is a little fortune especially for the ones that don't have a steady income because they are still going to school etcetera. So in all honesty I think we have the right to speak about our frustration without that people telling us to just buy a Xbox one x or to chill down. 

[gamingcllz]

@Taranto I agree that the response written to him was over the top, but I'm sure you understand people are getting frustrated to have yet heard from rockstar that they at least acknowledge what's going on with this particular issue. Having a blurry image on a pro to the point in which it's more comfortable to drop it down to 1080p resolution is a big deal. Being that the picture quality is the pull factor into buying a pro. Those who bought it shouldn't get a lesser experience, nor an experience that's on par with the base model PS4. It should be better. Especially when it is marketed it as such. 

People are getting upset because they're putting in so much work into getting rockstar to hear them out, to then have someone come along and say this isn't a big enough deal is a thwart to their efforts. If there's a problem in which someone can see themselves, what's the harm in agreeing that it should be fixed? 

Edited November 9, 2018 by gamingcllz

[R.Star]

Hello everyone,

As you will recall from my previous post, I work for Rockstar. I mentioned before that this specific issue was brought up and then pushed aside because there were other priorities.

Recently, this issue has again resurfaced and I would like to clarify a few things that have happened and what the plans are for the near future in regards to this issue:

- This issue was brought up and finally escalated last week to the relevant teams.

- They got back to us and it's been verified that there is absolutely nothing we can do in the short term in regards to this issue. A fix would likely take 6-12 months, and might never be done.

- The next patch will address bugs that affect both the Xbox and Playstation versions altogether. There are plans for patches after that in the next couple of months to give Ps4 Pro users more control over the graphics settings, but it has been confirmed by our specialists that it would only minimize the problem and not solve it.

As always, your patience and understanding is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

[Ross101]

17 minutes ago, R.Star said:

Hello everyone,

As you will recall from my previous post, I work for Rockstar. I mentioned before that this specific issue was brought up and then pushed aside because there were other priorities.

Recently, this issue has again resurfaced and I would like to clarify a few things that have happened and what the plans are for the near future in regards to this issue:

- This issue was brought up and finally escalated last week to the relevant teams.

- They got back to us and it's been verified that there is absolutely nothing we can do in the short term in regards to this issue. A fix would likely take 6-12 months, and might never be done.

- The next patch will address bugs that affect both the Xbox and Playstation versions altogether. There are plans for patches after that in the next couple of months to give Ps4 Pro users more control over the graphics settings, but it has been confirmed by our specialists that it would only minimize the problem and not solve it.

As always, your patience and understanding is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Why don’t I believe you 🤣🤣

I want proof 🤣🤣

Edited November 9, 2018 by Ross101