Melting Snowflakes

I really should get back to the story, I have spent so much time just wandering around having fun exploring, etc. The world is so huge, every time I think ... ah, over the next hill you won't be able to go any further ... it just goes on to more surprising places ..

So my funny story is that I killed a Legendary creature, but had no idea what it was good for. Fearing I would lose it, I found out that someone could use it to make me something, and I was like okay, I'll go there. But I was broke, so I knew I'd need money for it, so I went on and got a boat, did this huge fishing trip where I got like tons of money worth of fish, then went to sell them for cash. Finally, I had everything I needed. So I leave there, go halfway around the world to get to where I needed to go .. jump a fence, and KILL SOMEONE with my horse that I didn't even see when I'm running through a corn field - note to sell, don't do that again lol. So, now there's a witness, and I'm like .. ffs ... now I have to do something about that or I'll never get my pelt to where I want to take it because they'll be out hunting for me. So I am like .. I'm not losing this freaking thing after all the work I went to to get it, so that witness is toast .. but ... I'm too close to a place where I can't use weapons, and I can't intimidate him there, so now what ? I chase him! All the way to the Sherriff's office! And then by some MIRACLE I still don't understand, as we both go into the sherriff's office, the witness LEAVES, and then I just say hello the sheriff, and then ... okay, nothing happens. So I'm like .. okay, and I leave again, then I continue my trip on horse and I'm like dammit nothing is going to stop me getting this thing there, ... and then all of a sudden once I'm approaching a major population center BAM! I'm wanted! And like everybody in the whole freaking map starts chasing me for this murder, and everywhere I go there are people looking for me, but dammit I'm not stopping, I'm going to get this thing to where it's going. So finally, after dodging all these people, I get there ... and &^%$ I don't have enough money! So now I'm like dammit I have to get more money, and I leave, then an opportunity comes and I take it and earn enough for what I want ... go back ... and it turns out that what I could use the pelt for was something I didn't even want! So I'm like well now what ? So how does it end ? I sold the pelt, and it wasn't even worth enough to pay the bounty.

Authur is an alpha MGTOW, b*tch can pay him.

Story mode is the open world ... just not in the very beginning. You have to go through a bit of the story hand holding to get to the open world.

I use two horses. One is my main horse which is so faithful he can't be made any more faithful, lots of petting, sugar treats, petting him while riding, leading him around, I did it all to suck up to that horse. Second horse are ones I just randomly find in game, and I'll do the same while riding them, whistling for my main horse to follow where ever I go. Once I get the horse a faithful and leveled up to 2 or 3, I'll typically sell it, for some reason it's worth more once you level it up. In the mean time I ride the secondary horse to level it up, and use it to for hunting, with my primary being whistled along behind me. If you do this, make sure that you have the weapons you might need on you, because you can't switch weapons from the horse while you're on the secondary, you'll have to stop, get off, and go to your primary to change weapons. And ... of course ... don't forget to whistle for your main horse to follow as you're going around map! Side note, it's also a bit of a hassle to keep multiple horses fed and groomed. Edit, btw, in theory once you had the secondary horse leveled up and faithful, responding well to whistles, etc, you could get a third, fourth, etc, and when you whistle they'd all follow you around map, but it can actually be annoying sometimes to even have two horses doing this if you are in an area where they get in each other's way - like in town. Still, I haven't done it, but I bet it's hysterical to whistle and have like 50 horses come over lol.

LOL it sounds like some of you are being pretty mean in game. About the meanest thing I did was when I was riding along and there was a woman being kidnapped tied on the back of a horse ... I reacted and shot the horseman, and chased down the horse with her on it. Of course she's still tied up, and she's just .. nagging me .. demanding I get her off the horse, and just annoying as &^%$. So I take her off, toss her on the ground, and loot the guy, try to hide his body in some bushes, and the whole time she's yelling for me to untie her, and being demanding ... so ... I carried her up on a cliff and put a bullet in her head. Screw the reward or whatever else that might have come of it lol ...

Also ... take a bath regularly. Not kidding. It costs less than a dollar at the Valentine hotel.

I did, accidentally. I also fudged a control move meant to feed a second horse, and shot it ... It did not die though, or even buck me, but it made disconcerting noises ...

Love the old Zorro movies when I was young, and the movie "Mask of Zorro" is a newer retelling that I think is really good. We all wanted to be Zorro! lol. "Hateful Eight", because I like Q.T.'s movies, and "Django Unchained" had some great parts in it. Q.T. cites as his favorite movie "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly", and you can really see it in all of his movies. "Shane", this is an amazing movie and if you haven't seen it you absolutely need to. "Jeremiah Johnson", classic. "A Man called Horse", another classic. Numerous Japanese Samurai movies scratch the itch, and a few are actually retellings of American westerns. Among my absolute favorite Samurai movies of all times .. "Sword of Doom", one of the hardest movies ever made. "Lonesome Dove" .. git from here you pig!

Btw, happy fishing, lots of fun!

That's been the justification for plenty of men's interest in iRL women through the ages. God gave women tits and ass so that men wouldn't BBQ all of them and eat them.

There's your answer, that's exactly the one I had to complete to move on. In fact, there's another post here on this board that I wrote about this VERY issue, and I even mentioned that the only thing I hadn't done was the Javier Escuela mission, .. and when I did it, that was what fixed it. Now you know.

I actually find the political correctness in some of the story elements more annoying than the lack of sex in the game. I won't say more because it could lead to spoilers and this thread is light on them, but there were times when I was like ... really ? Suffice to say there were a few villains that were very easy to stereotype in a modern "culturally acceptable" way that I found a bit trite. I especially took exception with the underlying theme of every minority - Native and African Americans (notably), etc, being treated with such kid gloves. That said .. I'll take the other side of that too, R* was more daring on that front than most games would ever attempt.

I did think that - that it was very tame for the age rating. In the U.S. it's a 17.

If there are bugs stopping people from proceeding in the story, I get that people might get upset about that. That's the difference between what I said above about RDR2 compared to something like Battlefield 1 ... nobody cares about glitches in BF1, the worse thing that happens if you get booted from game and have to restart, with no loss of anything but about 2 minutes of your time. It's different when you've invested many hours playing and you can't proceed. Edit - and I'll add this. If THIS game disappoints you and you feel you simply can no longer support R*, stomp off in disgust, swear you'll never buy another title and all that ... I mean with the graphics this game has, etc, the extent of world building, all the rest ... if even THIS doesn't win any approval from you ... I forsee a lot of disappointment in your life LOL. I started out with PONG on ATARI. Believe me, you have to be pretty freaking entitled for this to not measure up.

Well, they do IMPLY sex ...

Yeah I'm no help, just saying that yes, in fact, it's taking the kid fishing that unlocks it. I'm trying to remember how exactly it played out ... have you talked to the kid ? I think the first thing that happens after the mission starts is that you are instructed to get on your horse and then the kid comes over and is automatically lifted on the horse with you and then you go fishing. Edit .. also, even once you have done it and have fishing abilities, some of the bait at the shop is still locked - crickets is locked for me (and please nobody respond telling me why circkets is locked ... I'll figure it out LOL) Edit #2 - I also had trouble unlocking this, are you SURE she's offered you the mission ? Reason I say that is that I had to clear every single yellow element on the map at the time, including some rescues, in order for that mission to unlock. I thought it was broken until I did that - if you have any unresolved mission elements, finishing them may fix it.

In context ... In Battlefield 1, which is itself a very polished game, you can die and end up under the ground looking up at the polygons, it will frame drop when the action gets too fast on console sometimes, bullets can occasionally hit you from impossible places through walls, and then of course there are the "battlefield moments" such as jumping out of one airplane and landing in another, putting horses in very awkward places, surviving really incredible situations without a scratch, being thrown hundreds of feet away when something happens, really hysterical stuff that helps make Battlefield what it is, but probably was not intentional in most cases. RDR2 has almost none of that, none that I have seen anyway - I mean there have been no instances where something has glitched and my horse has suddenly flown to the next county or anything like what happens in Battlefield sometimes.

I must have been lucky, I've run into very few bugs ... It makes me curious what games you guys are playing, because this is about the most bug free, polished game I've ever seen - it's amazing to me how glitch free the landscape, etc is. I've seen one "floating rock", and it was in a part of the map that I doubt anyone would even go to ... I intentionally went there, WAY off the beaten path, and even there the details where stunning. The only thing out of place was a fist sized rock floating about a foot off of the ground. Other than that, I've had very few glitches. The only glitch I've seen that stopped me from progressing was when one of the story elements required me to "crouch down" next to someone, and for the life of me I could not get that to work, I have no idea what the problem was - I finally had to quit out of it and have not tried it again. Maybe there's just a crouch command I don't know ? I thought it was pushing down on the left joy stick which does, in fact, make to go to a crouching position ... but maybe I was required to do it in a very specific place, but it didn't seem so from the yellow on the map. ///// WARNING /// TWO SPOILERS FOLLOW, ONE STORY RELATED ///// The only other "immersion breaking" thing that happened to me was the camp boat miraculously returning to home base without me .. but really maybe it just floated away, and that only happened once, and also when setting up camp takes you to places you couldn't get to on foot which has happened, but I kind of understand why that happens from a development standpoint.

I bought RDR2 because I watched a youtube video about it months ago and just remembered the name, but by the time I bought it I had forgotten what was in the video, all I remembered was that I had decided to get it. So I start playing opening day, and it was kind of interesting. I'm a huge fan of the Battlefield series, so that's really more of my thing, and I found the game play through the early part of the game rather slow and not really that interesting, honestly. Then later I get to the open world, and I really don't know what is going on, it was my first time playing a game like this and I didn't even understand wtf was supposed to be happening, in fact, I didn't even understand that it was an "open world". I could barely ride my horse, had no idea how the selection of what was in my hand was working, it was all very confusing .. .. But .. The world ... wow. I mean the grass, the clouds, even compared to Battlefield 1 which I think was the prettiest game I had ever played, wtf, how did the people who made this game even come up with this stuff. It's SO beautiful. I thought that from the beginning, but once you get out into the world and start wandering around, it's just so impressive. The detail, the very obvious amount of craftsmanship that went into this game, it is so expansive. And I'm walking around looking at everything and start to figure out mechanics such as being able to study creatures with binoculars, tracking, riding my horse and getting to know it, and yes .. there is a story, and you can work towards that, and I was, .. or, am ? I think. But most of the time it seems like I'm just riding around on my horse. And yes, I could run everywhere and make the game faster, but ... for some reason I just walk, or lead my horse sometimes, walk when I'm on foot, wander around. And then after a few days of this, literally, ... I mean wtf, is this even a game ? I mean I'm enjoying just being in the game, without even advancing the story, just riding around looking at stuff, like you might if you just went out for a walk around the neighborhood. And identifying animals, and watching birds fly around, and the scenery WOW, the little lakes, rivers, the creatures, and the level of detail in the game mechanics for hunting, fishing, etc. Half the time it feels like I'm trying to build my character, and get a better relationship with my horse(s) (now I have two that I wander around with), and it's so exciting to find new places to go and new things to see. And how on EARTH did the people who made this game make so much detail on such a grand scope, such a HUGE map, and it's almost perfect, I mean, footsteps in the mud, the weather, the sounds. I don't even know if it's a game with a point anymore, and I don't even seem to care if it has a point, I've been contented most of the day learning how to use a new lure to lake fish, enjoying new species of fish as I find them. I've almost completely stopped progressing in the story, honestly. Today I deliberately avoided a story line because it was interrupting what I was doing, because I wanted to get something I needed to craft something and had to ride quite a ways to get to it. Which then turned into racing on my horse along the railroad tracks ... for ... umm ... fun, without any point. Is it a game ? A hunting simulation ? A therapy session ? A work of art to be admired ? An instructive encyclopedia and teaching aid ? At this point I don't even know. And I don't seem to care.