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My horse’s name is Cormac — after Cormac McCarthy, author of the best western novel ever (Blood Meridian). Grullo Dun Mustang.

My guess is you'll be fat, bloated, no buckle showing, bullet sponge in no time at all. Ten pieces at a time, I think you'll be morbidly obese after a day or two and need a crane to get you onto your horse

I've had animals or big pelts stored on the back of my horse disappear, but I'm never quite sure if it's a bug or because someone stole it off the back. People can't steal pelts that lie flat, but they can steal animals or big pelts (bear, alligator, elk, etc.). On the other hand, I've also seen the animal or big pelt disappear off the back of my horse, but when I look in my satchel for what I have stored on the back of my horse it shows up there and I can sell it, even though I can't see it. Maybe check that. I get the animals downgraded too. In the single player game, maybe in the help screen, it says if you keep an animal on your horse too long it will rot. The problem is if you kill a pristine animal up north of Annesberg or something, I don't know how you get it to a butcher in time before it rots. I've tried racing across the map but that doesn't work. I've tried fast travel to a butcher but that doesn't work either. It's disappointing, especially when the butcher mocks you for bringing him a rotten animal)) Now I always just skin the thing.

big game meat made me overweight almost overnight it seemed.

Never heard of that or seen it. Good advice. Especially if you are in defensive mode, basically telling someone I'm no threat to you so don't threaten me....or else. Oftentimes it's hard to tell if someone is stalking you or just nearby looking for some yarrow. So do you just aim and press up on the d pad to fire a bullet straight into the air? One thing that would help me a lot is if the names that are listed (online options/players i think) were ordered by proximity to you instead of what seems like randomly. Sometimes I see somebody seems suspicious so I want to take a quick look at their honor and hostility, but their name is something 247SAND420XXX4 and is buried at the bottom of the list with a bunch of similar names. Perhaps that's not technically feasible, I don't know. I suppose what I want to see is if somebody wants to play as hostile, they show up on the map as always red -- or orange, purple, pick a color. I have no problem if someody wants to play as dishonorable/hostile. The game needs these people. But if they choose to go that way, they and anyone in their posse should never show up on the minimap as a simple blue dot just like everybody else, they need always to be identified as hostile somehow.

Here is my guide for making money quickly without cheating. I'm not saying this is the "best" way, this is just how I do it. There may be better ways. You should try different suggestions to see how much you can make and more importantly how much fun you have doing it. Do what you enjoy doing, it shouldn't be a grind. Also, you'll need some basic equipment to so definitely do story and stranger missions and whatever else to gain levels and unlock the basic items. Some things you can get for free if you're on PS4 If you have gold, you can unlock other things even if you haven't reached the required level. I would say buy the promotion of 25 gold bars for $4.99 is you can. Even if you're opposed to microtransactions, it's worth it just to get your basic setup for the price of a cup of coffee. You'll need a bolt action rifle with a short scope, a varmint rifle, and a fishing rod. A shotgun is also useful for self defense. Try not to spend all your money on clothes or gold plating your guns yet)) So for money, this is what I would do: If you've not already done so, first go to Valentine and hit the stable. Get the free Andalusian (PS4 only) and free upgraded saddle and saddlebags that can hold more stuff (the cheesy looking ones with a skull, PS4 only). Next go to the doctor and sell all your herbs except ginseng which imo is the most useful and hard to find. Then go to the butcher and sell all your meat and pelts. Finally go to the general store and buy four cans of worms (20 total). Don't get the fishing lure at this point because if you catch something big your line will probably break anyway and you'll have nothing. I wouldn't get a bow early on either. Anyway, now you're empty and ready to go. Go to Strawberry and make a trip up to Big Valley towards towards Little Creek River. On the way there, use your varmint rifle to shoot anything that moves, rabbits, squirrels, skunks, birds, anything, they all must die and go into your satchel no matter how insignificant they may seem. Pay no attention to the quality of these varmint pelts. Also, stop and pick every herb you see. Even if it seems like a waste of the time, herbs are like free money sitting on the ground so jump off your horse and grab it. You'll probably get ambushed by the O'Dricsols on the way so be ready for that (fun and xp). Once you get to Big Valley and the creeks, there will be deer and elk everywhere. Use your bolt action rifle to shoot everything with a good or pristine pelt as well as birds or anything else. Also keep picking herbs until you are maxed out or sick of doing it. It won't take long to be maxed out on animal parts and you'll have a bunch of pelts. You can only carry one elk pelt, bear pelt, or big fish. I think the fish will bring in the most (remember you'll already be getting all the meat etc from other big game even if you don't keep the pelts). While you're doing this, you'll probably get invited to take out the O'Driscol's hideout (fun and xp) Listen for bear growls in the hills around they valley and go on foot and try to get a grizzly. There are bighorn rams etc. up there as well (this is probably optional because sometimes it can take a while to get a bear and more likely the bear will get you, but for me it's the most fun). You'll probably get attacked by wolves at some point which will give you a lot of game meat anyway. The goal is to try to get as many pelts as possible and to max out every different type of meat (i.e., venison, big game, mutton, small game, plump birds, stringy meat etc.). And whenever you kill something or pick an herb, jump off your horse and run to it and back because it will improve your stamina and help you rank up. Additionally, you'll gain dead eye experience for everything you kill which helps you rank up too. Once you feel like you've done enough, start heading back to Strawberry by way of Lake Owinjila. Keep killing varmints/birds and picking herbs on the way. At the lake, use the 20 worms to catch 20 fish. You should get at least one big one for the back of your horse and even a load of small fish is surprisingly valuable. You'll also gain strength quickly by fishing which helps you to level up. By the time you get back to Strawberry, you want to have pristine elk or bear pelt or big fish on the back of your horse along with a bunch of pelts, and two pristine smaller animals hanging from the sides. Sell everything to the butcher. The money will be rolling in. Then go back to the doctor in Valentine and sell all your herbs. Less money but it adds up. On weapons, it depends on what you prefer with regard to killing people. I like shotguns so I got the pump action shotgun first, next in order would be the bolt action rifle (good dual use weapon) then varmint rifle (hunting but also deadly if you're good at headshots). Sure, the carbine repeater isn't the best, but imo there's no point in having two repeaters and no shotguns or rifles. a better repeater can wait imo. Same with the cattleman revolver, not the best but it will do for the time being especially if you don't use handguns a lot. Once you get ranked and have extra money, then think about upgrading the carbine or the cattleman revolver or getting a bow. Upgrading the tent is probably the last of the priorities, but it's something many people forget or don't realize the benefits. Hunting alligators is super easy but it's all big game meat so I iirc you'll be maxed out after killing three and can carry one skin, so you end up traipsing through the mud killing frogs and looking for a heron.

Also something to know is the weight system is different online, when I started, I’d eat the same amount of meat I did in single player and immediately I was overweight. I couldn’t believe I was overweight. in single player I’d eat more and was always underweight. The only way I found to maintain perfect weight online is to eat only canned foods, and even then I let myself go hungry a lot of the time (like when hunting and there’s little chance of being killed). Also find as much ginseng and yarrow you can and craft potent health tonics to protect your cores without eating. Another thing is to always upgrade your tent, that way your health core will fill without needing to eat (especially if you rest in camp). So if you are just starting, constantly monitor your weight until you find the right amount of food for online play. I sell virtually all my meat to the butcher.

Use whatever term you like, but I’m talking about things like when I have to go piss downstairs I’ll go into defensive mode far away from any action and hide myself in a cluster of trees. When I come back one guy suddenly lassoes me for a drag, the other guy opens fire on me while being dragged, and the third guy shoots my horse. Or the people who stand outside a general store waiting for some to come by and hitch their horse so they can shoot them in the back of the head, etc., etc., etc. If that’s what you enjoy doing to other players and having done to you, indeed the highlight of your night, I don’t know what to say. I ride around in free roam in offensive mode and I’m wary of everyone and always ready to defend myself. That’s a whole different story. This other stuff I call griefing for lack of a better term and that seems to be the label that’s been adopted by the community. There’s no reason for it. Most mature people frown upon it and wish it would be addressed. edit: Add to that the possies who stand next to the stranger mission icons knowing that as soon as you complete the mission successfully, the game will respawn you right there next to the station with no gun at the ready, no horse, and the three posse members can then immediately blast you with shotguns. No chance whatsoever to defend yourself. You respawn again and if you whistle for your horse, they kill it. If you don’t want to call them griefers, call them cowardly a-holes. They don’t love fighting or love hostile interactions or anything of that nature. They are there for no other purpose than to ruin other people’s games and try to piss people off. Of course they don’t consider it a problem, they are classic internet trolls.

It is annoying when a griefer (singular) kills you with a cheap shot, but you can respawn and can either go after them or go somewhere else, it’s a whole different story when it’s a persistent posse of 4+ griefers and when you respawn you really have no chance at all. I think when this happens, the griefers should show up as red dots for everybody, not just you. Then everybody will know they are a hostile posse and go after them, or a least if you’re just a bystander you’ll know the situation and can either get ready to defend yourself or just leave the area if you don’t want to deal with them. Who knows. This is Rockstar’s problem, they are the experts and can see all the data, and they are the only ones who can come up with solutions, if they want to. But the cynical side of me says that a Rockstar doesn’t care. If a persistent posse of griefers is buying gold all the time to upgrade camp, get matching outfits, buying all the expensive guns and horses, they are “good customers” for Rockstar. If you’re just one person who makes money hunting or on missions, etc., and doesn’t buy a lot of gold, you’re more like a freeloader and they are going to side with the posse of griefers and make things easier for them because that’s where the money is at. I think Rockstar is fully aware that the griefing problem is more profitable preventing it, that’s why the problem is still so persistent after all the months of beta.

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How do you report things like this? I got tired of the griefing so I decided to do some stranger missions on my own, figuring it was a way to have some fun outside of free roam. But apparently people have figured out where you spawn back to after a mission and just wait there to kill you. For example, I did wagon recovery from the Valentine post office and it said mission passed and dropped me back outside the front door of the post office. Literally one second after I got dropped back into free roam, while I was watching the screen inform me how much cash/experience/etc I got, a guy was choking me to death. Then I respawn a short distance away and immediately his posse was right there on horseback waiting to kill me. Didn’t even have a chance to pull a gun or call my horse. I thought I understood the concept of griefing, but when you get killed literally one second after getting dropped out of a successful stranger mission, that’s going too far imo. Poker is about the only thing I can still enjoy at this point, and even then I’m expecting some outside griefer to split my head open with an ancient hatchet while I’m dealing cards. Too many people have learned how to game the system in too many ways. Add to that they all do some kind of “cougar glitch” and apparently get unlimited money, the whole thing is just absurd.

It must be a thing because i had same experience last night. I was clearing out a hideout and had just about finished up when out of the corner of my eye I see a player ride up and a message pops up saying so and so killed the leader and he’s out there looting all the bodies. I figured some people see smoke, ride over and watch you do the dirty work, the jump in to gather the spoils.

Hi, I’ve been wondering about something and this seems like a good place to ask. I’m not trying to criticize you or say one way of playing is better than another, so please don’t take it that way. My question is this: when you are stabbing cops, are you just getting overall experience points to level up or do you also get individual experience points for strength, stamina, and deadeye? I ask because I often fish, for example, and I don’t think it levels me up in terms of overall number, but it does increase my strength level. So my overall level is somewhere in the low 20s, but my strength is 9/10. I also hunt and pick a lot of herbs, and while I don’t run around pointlessly, I will jump off my horse and run a short distance to gather a batch of herbs or skin a kill. That got me to 10/10 stamina surprisingly fast without even trying. And shooting a varmint or a bird gives +1 deadeye for each kill and up to 5, 10, or 25 deadeye xp for bigger game (iirc correctly). So while my overall level is low, I have no need for tonics. I can seemingly run forever and not get tired. Once I did one of those timed repossess the wagon missions and just ran there without my horse and got the wagon back on time. I always upgrade my tent and with 9/10 strength, it seems I can take a lot of damage with little effect, especially with the hunker down ability card or whatever it is. Again, not to criticize or challenge, but what exactly is not only your overall level, but also your individual trait levels well? It just doesn’t seem like one would (or should) gain much strength, stamina, or deadeye experience by standing there stabbing cops and dying over and over, but I admit, I’m totally ignorant on this point. Maybe they all go up together, but I’m not sure.

I actually thought about that the other day in regard to griefing. I have a mic but don’t use it, I mute everyone, and I don’t even know how to send or receive messages. All I hear are in game sounds. That makes me an extremely boring person to grief. It’s like trying to kick a rock to get a reaction out of it - pointless. I either respawn, hunker down, and kill them if they get in range, or I press charges and move on if I have no time for them. They might get an initial cheap shot, but if they want to keep it going they’ll have to spend an hour eating my bullets. No fun at all for them and they quickly move on. There’s no problem using a mic and many people wouldn’t play with out one. But just treat them like mosquitoes. You don’t get mad at a mosquito if it bites you - you either slap it dead or let it fly away. Treat them the same way because they’re just trolls looking to get under your skin. Good advice above.

This is the first online game I’ve played and was pretty worried after reading all the horror stories (which were almost all about 6 mos old btw). But I’ve been playing for a weak and have been pleasantly surprised by the lack of grief. I don’t even bother with the defensive mode anymore. My impression is that by the time most serious players get to level 20 or so, they’ve been griefed enough times that they have no real interest in doing it to others. I like to hunt and often someone will ride up on me while I’m putting a pelt on my horse and I expect the worst, only to get a thumbs up or a wave from the player. It’s actually a nice feeling and now I like to do it to others. I’ll ride up slowly with my shotgun out, of course, and there’s a moment of tension, but it quickly becomes apparent that it’s a friendly encounter rather than hostile. I think griefers at this point mainly prey on low level players, and also low level players do it because they don’t know what else they’re supposed to do in free roam (gotta shoot something after all). But once you’ve played enough to get your bearings straight and basic weapons of choice, it’s pretty easy to respawn, get some cover, and take them out. I find that usually they run off once they see you know how to defend yourself. edit: should add that they prey on morons like me who load the game standing on a street corner in Saint Denis in offensive mode and not paying attention while downloading and trying to sign into the official app. But at least I came back and blasted their posse leader dead while the guy who shot me and other posse member were cowering behind a building not far away. They then retreated until their red turned back to blue and disappeared. I’ll count that as a win any day. I definitely was asking for it so I can’t complain. Lesson learned.

thanks to you and others who mentioned this. In all the times i’ve looted bodies online i never came across a treasure map so it never crossed my mind. Anyway, I hope he got one, because if anyone deserves it, this corpse-looting madman is the guy.

So last night a guy invited me to his temp posse and we ended up clearing an enemy hideout at that ranch in big valley. Once we finished, he turned into a complete maniac racing into the house to get the jewelry and then loot all the bodies. If I even turned in the direction of a dead body, he'd practically run me over to get there first. I have no doubt he would have shot me dead if he could have. Anyway, I had no interest in the bodies. I just stood there watching him while I shot the ravens picking at the dead, then collected some nearby herbs while he finished his work. Also grabbed a lump of cheese for good measure ($1.90 in a store iirc). I sold the bird meat and feathers to the butcher and the herbs to the doctor and I'm quite sure I got the bigger take without all the hassle. My only regret was that I didn't grab a bread roll to go with the cheese. There's just no profit in looting bodies online as far as I can tell. In my admittedly limited experience, if you're lucky the bodies usually have something like 93 cents and maybe an opened health cure, if you're real lucky maybe a stick of dynamite. The jewelry is typically a necklace or bracelet that you can fence for a couple dollars each. It's not like single player where a belt buckle will bring you $10 and jewelry comes in bags of $25 to $50. So that's my standard practice now. If I get ambushed and there are dead bodies all over the place, I just sit back leisurely killing the scavenger birds and hoping I get lucky and a squirrel runs by. (That said, sometimes I do loot bodies just because I like the visual and the sound of the dead body thumping against the ground.) Am I wrong about this? Has anybody gotten a worthwhile amount of money or valuable object looting a dead body online? I suppose it makes sense that the Skinner Brothers aren't riding around with torches and pockets full of cash.

And they require such high ranks to unlock, it makes no sense if they are only cosmetic, especially since there’s a whole section of the catalogue for them. They must do something but no way to know. Then again, probably just another way to entice you buy gold to rank up and get one.

yes the customization prices are ridiculous but Rockstar obviously knows we’re suckers for it. in single player I did what a lot of people do: made my revolver all gold with a pearl handle. Online, I went to do the same and was shocked to see that every piece of the gun cost 5 gold bars for a total of 35 gold bars (iirc) on top of the price of the gun. Even 5 gold bars to make the trigger gold lol, all for purely cosmetic changes. A few things I did to save money: 1. the only parts of the gun visible while playing are the varnish, the barrel, the frame, and the lever or whatever it’s called on a repeater. None of the other parts are really visible while playing so don’t waste money on them. The bolt, trigger, etc. are irrelevant. 2. the metal prices vary. For example, blackened steel cost 2 gold bars for each part while blued steel costs 1 gold bar, but in game, they are virtually indistinguishable. In fact, in game the blued steel looks more black than the blackened steel. So if you like black steel, use blue instead for half the price. 3. check the prices on cash vs steel. I think a gold bar is worth about $20. Often the cash price will be, for example, $65 dollars while the gold price will be 4 bars (same with clothes). It seems a trivial amount, but if your customizing all your guns or buying a lot of clothes it really adds up. Just doing these things will make a surprisingly big difference early in the game when money is scarce.

I only started playing online a few weeks ago after the big “out of beta” patch a few weeks ago, so I never experienced griefers or a to of the other problems I read about. One time in my first few hours I was hitching my horse outside a general store and someone shot me in the head for no reason. I pressed charges for whatever that’s worth, but since then it’s never really happened to me. I started playing in defensive mode for doing general stuff, but that seemed to make things pretty lonely. I hardly even saw human players anymore. It felt like I was playing solo. So now I play in offensive mode 95% of the time and to be honest it doesn’t seem much different, still pretty lonely. I would welcome encountering some ruthless killers more often, as long as there’s some fairness in it. What I’d like to see is if there’s a ruthless killer (aka griefer) in your vicinity, you should see a red dot to be alert for it (like when there’s a bear or wolf nearby, your heart starts to pump a little and you get ready). Rather than a bear’s growl, the NPCs should alert you by saying things like, that’s him/her, watch out, be careful, maybe have a deputy appear so the moment the griefer tries to take a cheap shot, the deputy or an NPC would start draw first and shoot (everyone was armed back then). It would be no fun for griefers if they take a bullet in the head every time before they even have a chance to take a cheap shot on a defenseless, unsuspecting player. There would be no point in in it. But it should be tied to honor somehow. For example, a full-blown dishonorable would take lead before from a deputy or NPC before they even raise their gun. At the same time, it’s understandable that some people want to play in griefer-style way. For them, as long as they have some level of honor, their first or first few grief-shots should be forced misses so the target knows he/she is being targeted, where the gunfire is coming from and what kind, and have a chance to get armed and defend. Maybe an honorable player would have a few missed shots missed shots while a more dishonorable player might get one. So a total a-hole griefer would just get shot by an NPC before even having a chance to kill a defenseless, unsuspecting, honorable player and there’d be no point in it, the griefer would just get killed immediately, looted, and then deal with a significant bounty for cold-blooded attempted murder. For less dishonorable players who just want to kill you for some reason, they’d have to deal with NPC fire and a prepared target who very well might be far more dangerous than the spineless griefer. Also, players should have the option to play as deputies there to defend the peace that you could join as sort of a mission or type of posse. Why can’t you play as a lawman or woman? Instead of a bunch incompetent NPC lawmen, griefers would have to deal with human adversaries rather than a bunch of incompetent NPC who say “don’t let him get away” and run stupidly into certain death. I think a lot of players would like to play as deputies and it would make towns a lot more dangerous places where you’d have to think twice about your actions. Maybe even have a high-level human sheriff who you definitely don’t want to f- with. Then, like others have said, there should be a serious bounty system. You could go into a sheriff station and look at the bounties and pick one that suits you. If you’re a single low-level player, you probably don’t want to grab a poster for the most deadly person or gang out there. You’d chose someone closer to your level and go out hunting them for the reward. For the most deadly gangs with the biggest prices on their heads, the most deadly possies out there would hunt them down for the bigger reward/xp. Not as formal missions, but free roam where you grab a poster and would get tips as to where they were last seen. Go chase them down and have a real challenge between the hunted and the hunters, not go retrieve a wagon or play some defend the castle competition or even have a random feud with another posse just so you have something to do. i know there’d have to be a bunch of balance and similar issues, but they could be worked out by the smart people at Rockstar. I just think people should have the options to be free roam ruthless killers, deputies, bounty hunters, etc., but rather than make it a simple issue of offensive/defensive mode. If you don’t want to be griefed, you probably won’t because the consequences would not be worth it. And if somebody does want to defenselessly kill you for no reason, you just res pawn and the other online players will have a hell of a good time making you pay for it, whether was deputies or bounty hunters. And maybe as the victim, you’d have the option of joining the bounty hunt even if it’s with a group of expert hunters tracking down the deadliest gangs. It just seems to me something like this would be good for everybody. Just have NPCs eliminate the total a-hole griefers before they have a chance to act, and those who want to be ruthless killers should be given the opportunity but knowing there are a lot of ruthless deputies and bounty hunters who will enjoy making you pay for it. It just based to be balanced so the lawmen and bounty hunters don’t become the griefers i.e., you bump into somebody with your horse and a posse of 150 level players don’t start hunting you. Anyway, just some thoughts. Also same with other things in free roam. Why can’t you play as a guard for a stagecoach or train while other players are robbers who want to hold you up. Not these formal structured missions where it’s basically impossible to fail, but something more like, go ahead and try to rob this stage coach, we’d love it. Instead of a posse racing from stranger mission to stranger mission, have human posses that specialize in protecting or robbing rather than stupid NPC guards. Let human guards and human robbers go up against each other and have some real challenging action. The tedious stranger missions and defend the castle or shoot the birds competitions seem to me like they’d get boring and pointless pretty fast, though this is off-topic I think so sorry.

Me too. I find RDR2 very relaxing. After a long day, I enjoy leisurely trotting around on my horse deciding what to do, some shootouts etc here and there, hunting, even fishing. The frantic nonstop action button mashing games, on the other hand, are way too much for me. I bought a a PS4 on impulse more than a year and a half ago and RDR2 is the first game I ever played for more than 5 minutes. Until reading the glowing reviews in non-gaming publications like the NYT, Atlantic, etc., it just sat it my closet collecting dust with a handful of shrink wrapped games. Even then I didn't take the plunge with RDR2 until earlier this month.

The 1.10 update from a few days ago fixed everything for me, no crashes since then thankfully.

ok so I went to this error history to count. 23 blue screen CE-34878-0 crashes since YESTERDAY! The kicker is while scrolling down counting the errors in this Settings/System/Error History, it crashed with CE-34878-0 again same as always. Not even actively playing the game, though I suppose it was open in the background). That's right, it crashed with CE-34878-0 while I was counting the crashes in the PS4 error history. Unbelievable. Frequency of My errors: May 26 2:28 pm 4:05 pm 5:24 pm 6:29 pm 6:59 pm 7:28 pm 7:45 pm 8:12 pm 9:29 pm 10:07 pm 10:16 pm 10:29 pm 10:46 pm May 27 1:42 am 1:59 am 2:39 am 4:40 am 5:45 am 8:55 am 9:39 am 9:10 pm 10:11 pm 10:26 pm Every message in the error history: CE-34878-0 - An error has occurred in the following application (Red Dead Redemption 2). (yeah it seems like a long time playing, but this is the first and only game i've ever played either solo or online so I was trying to relax and have fun on holiday weekend) I played the single player game through twice and never had a single crash, then when I wanted to try Red Dead Online yesterday it required a software update to play online (while I was playing single player, it always said the game was up to date (don't remember version, it was something ending in .09 iirc. l like to do hunting and I spend an hour hunting a grizzly bear and get a perfect pelt and start riding to town, then crash and all my pelts are gone. Once I was just sitting in my camp at the fire resting, doing nothing at all, just sitting there not even touching the controller, and it crashed with this same error. I was in the gun store flipping through the catalogue and crash/error. There's no rhyme or reason to it. It just crashes over and over. Strangely, it never crashes while I'm in a mission or whatever they are called, just when I'm doing nothing at all in free roam. I always do the playstation submit system info, screenshot and video clip. Today I submitted a ticket to Rockstar support. This is a brand new stock PS4 slim and RDR2 is the only game that's ever been loaded on it. All system/game software updated. Went through the troubleshooting steps posted earlier from Rockstar support (change DNS, fully shut down and unplug, etc) and all it did was wipe out all my customized controller settings. Sorry for the long post, but maybe something here is useful. If I can update my support ticket I'll list all these crashes and maybe take pictures of them to attach.