rdr2 WeWantClearPicture Posted November 27, 2018 Posted November 27, 2018 (edited) ok so here we go.im have done some investigating and found out that the witcher 3 has patch for the ps4 pro wich runs a 1920x2160 same as rdr2 and it is sharp not 4k sharp but very sharp and so much sharper than rdr2 it is a shame here is a pic the witcher 3 running on ps4 pro remember this is a pic i own both games and the witcher looks verry clear Edited November 27, 2018 by rdr2 WeWantClearPicture
rdr2 WeWantClearPicture Posted November 27, 2018 Posted November 27, 2018 13 minutes ago, rdr2 WeWantClearPicture said: ok so here we go.im have done some investigating and found out that the witcher 3 has patch for the ps4 pro wich runs a 1920x2160 same as rdr2 and it is sharp not 4k sharp but very sharp and so much sharper than rdr2 it is a shame here is a pic the witcher 3 running on ps4 pro remember this is a pic i own both games and the witcher looks verry clear
rdr2 WeWantClearPicture Posted November 27, 2018 Posted November 27, 2018 lwts compare them guys cmoon keep them native screen shots comin
rdr2 WeWantClearPicture Posted November 27, 2018 Posted November 27, 2018 i say this whole sit does not tka epart in this online as a stance make it bee known with the new evidence
Dexter757 Posted November 27, 2018 Posted November 27, 2018 (edited) 26 minutes ago, rdr2 WeWantClearPicture said: ok so here we go.im have done some investigating and found out that the witcher 3 has patch for the ps4 pro wich runs a 1920x2160 same as rdr2 and it is sharp not 4k sharp but very sharp and so much sharper than rdr2 it is a shame here is a pic the witcher 3 running on ps4 pro remember this is a pic i own both games and the witcher looks verry clear For me Witcher 3 on Ps4 pro have same bad sharp, but less TAA - what make RDR2 look more blurred Here real 4K, so it defenatly 1920*2160 issue Edited November 27, 2018 by Dexter757 1
rdr2 WeWantClearPicture Posted November 27, 2018 Posted November 27, 2018 (edited) i know i also own a pc with a gtx1080 4790k i play 4k i just ment comparing the 2 witcher 3 is way better.i ment native from ps4pro the less blurr from comression the better Edited November 28, 2018 by rdr2 WeWantClearPicture
MN32410 Red_&_Dead Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) I have no witcher 3 wild hunt patch with this resolution. Witcher 3 runs with the resolution like horizon zero dawn I think. Or is the patch new? Witcher 3 looks a lot clearer. Edit: You are right guy. Witcher 3 runs in the same checkerboard resolution, but witcher 3 looks total crisp on the ps4 pro. It looks more detailed as on the One X, not from the level of detail but the resolution. They must talk with cd project. Witcher 3 looks amazing on a calibrated 4k tv. Dexter that are 4k monitor screenshots right ? It looks not like 4k from a tv, more than the pc version with the sharpening filter and temporal antialiasing. Here are the patchnotes. No fixes for HDR or blur issues https://www.shacknews.com/article/108727/red-dead-redemption-2-103-update-patch-notes witcher 3 4k footage. I found only a older version before 1.62 in this quality. Graphical glitches are fixed with 1.62 ok, this video is better to show how the witcher 3 looks in the same resolution on the pro Thesecond video shows a older version with graphical glitches. Look only at the resolution how the same resolution with checkerboard rendering looks in the witcher 3. No Eye cancer, only the bad graphical glitches of the first hdr update. It is fixed since version 1.62 Edited November 28, 2018 by MN32410 Red_&_Dead
Dexter757 Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 MN32410 Red_&_Dead, yes, pc from 4K TV. I mean withcer 3 look worse than God of War or Spider man in sharpness (and native 4K from PC), so may be because of 1920x2160 resolution. RDR 2 more blurry - TAA antialiasing is too agressive. But i dont think they gonna disable AA... Too long and nothig fix, only rain work visible now (another bug), thanks last patch
MN32410 Red_&_Dead Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 56 minutes ago, Dexter757 said: MN32410 Red_&_Dead, yes, pc from 4K TV. I mean withcer 3 look worse than God of War or Spider man in sharpness (and native 4K from PC), so may be because of 1920x2160 resolution. RDR 2 more blurry - TAA antialiasing is too agressive. But i dont think they gonna disable AA... Too long and nothig fix, only rain work visible now (another bug), thanks last patch TAA is a to agressive form of antialiang. Only good for real 4k. SMAA is way better and costs lesser performance. Yes think they change nothing, this is the arrogance of the publisher. Only money makers and the whole online press is payed by rockstar. I´ve looked for other reviews in newspapers and not big gaming magazines or sites. This game becomes a average score of 75 in all this magazines.
alllly Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 Rdr2 just got a patch but I'm at work any word if it fixes ps4 issues or gives us the option to turn off post procceing effects? 1
Dubya75 Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) 44 minutes ago, alllly said: Rdr2 just got a patch but I'm at work any word if it fixes ps4 issues or gives us the option to turn off post procceing effects? It doesn't fix any of the issues discussed here. PS4 Pro is still blurry. HDR is still broken. The only perceivable thing they fixed is the disappearing NPCs at camp. And since R* clearly couldn't wait to get Online going, I guess these things will never get fixed now. Edited November 28, 2018 by Dubya75 2
Minimoni Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Dubya75 said: It doesn't fix any of the issues discussed here. PS4 Pro is still blurry. HDR is still broken. The only perceivable thing they fixed is the disappearing NPCs at camp. And since R* clearly couldn't wait to get Online going, I guess these things will never get fixed now. Sadly from now on the online content will be the only thing R* focuses on. And that is very sad since I feel the RDR2 online feels just like GTAV online, why the hell can we see all other players on the map at all times!? Anyway, the graphics is what it is and I do not anticipate that there will be any changes to that. 2
Dubya75 Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) So Rockstar has opened up an official feedback channel to them directly for the ONLINE section of the game. Not the base game, the ONLINE section. This should speak volumes to anyone still hoping they give a single crap about Singleplayer. It was all just a vehicle for Online monetization to kick off at the end of the day. Granted, a mostly glorious vehicle, but just look at how quickly they drop the Singleplayer fanbase in favor of Online. It's a bit of an insult. Edited November 28, 2018 by Dubya75 2
MN32410 Red_&_Dead Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) I´m not a kiddy online gamer. I will play to relax and not work. This is a big mistake in the modern software industie, all games must have a online mode with tons of content, no game comes polished to the market. This is why I like the exlusive titles of sony, no online sh*t. When I will talk with somebody than I do it in the real world and not wth a headset. This is the ****ing twitter facebook generation. I delete all my accounts. This are all big concerns now, and it has nothing with gaming out of the the past. All of the new generation want new game plus content, weekly new content prefer lootboxes and all this other sh*t that comes out with the higher bandwidth of the internet. The magazines prefer this games and push it. The parents sells for the studying kids and the kids play this sh*t at home. I read yesterday on odyssey forum, why the hell no new game plus is out it is to late. All this trolls and flamers set the developpers under pressure and ruining all. They are not interested anymore to fixing graphical issues or anything else in singleplayer mode. Rockstar began with this politics with GTA V. No polishing of the game for the singleplayer content only for the online mode. I´m really done with that company, too bad that other publishers like cd project red do the same way in the future for cyberpunk 2077 THey want only all earn money and empty our wallets and the most of the rich kids buy all this crap. Look to Blizzards overwatch, Fortnite or all this bullsshit. This games are not designed for the older generations. Edited November 28, 2018 by MN32410 Red_&_Dead 1 3
rdr2 WeWantClearPicture Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) now guys i nkow im not an expert i suck ay spelling but i do my research digital foundy have already pointed out that there is a issue with blurr .a simple no work patch of 2560x1440 res change would fix this .they are never going to fix it i have stopped playing it because it honeslt looks blurrier than an og ps4 i play all my games on pc in 4k i overclock heavily and this game hurts my damn eye wtf i paid 60$ for this.edit 65$ with taxes Edited November 28, 2018 by rdr2 WeWantClearPicture
lonley22 Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 odyssey have a lot of patches released since the game was launched .. a lot of fixes and improvements.. a new patch comes out tomorrow .. and rdr2 only 2 updates.. and didn't fix sh*t..
MrJosey Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 3 hours ago, Dubya75 said: So Rockstar has opened up an official feedback channel to them directly for the ONLINE section of the game. Not the base game, the ONLINE section. This should speak volumes to anyone still hoping they give a single crap about Singleplayer. It was all just a vehicle for Online monetization to kick off at the end of the day. Granted, a mostly glorious vehicle, but just look at how quickly they drop the Singleplayer fanbase in favor of Online. It's a bit of an insult. We can still give feedback about the games image quality, since it impacts the online experience as well as the single player experience.
rdr2 WeWantClearPicture Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) i love this game man it really sucks.i have owned a ps4 pro since day one from amazon, and i know that most games cant put out a full 3840 x 2160 on the Ps4Pro but 90% of game's that have a pro patch meaning it takes advantage of the more powerful hardware looks so much better with a "clear" and "sharper" image.A sharper image you can tell instantly. i know the graphics in rdr2 are better 90% of most games i do not under stand y they cant do something about this on pc game we literally change the resolution with the click of the mouse.i really think this is and easy fixx one again 1440p 1800p .just remove the checker boarding it has ruined the game for a community of people that has a 61 page forum on just this one topic about rdr2 digital foundry pointed out the issue do some research digital foundry has outed out many issues in games and the were fixed because of rockstar knows the issue exact they 100% have a p.r person for the internet sh*t talk alone.they are worth so much money and cant put in a ****ing option to switch between a few resolutions or w.e the **** they call it in stupid console upgrade menus in games. im pissed i want to play the game and refuse the play it at 1080p i invested alot of money to upgrade all my stuff best 4k tv for gaming vizio d 40'' lowest input lag on a tv...seriusly is perfoms like a monitor also has really really good up scaling anddd it runs 1080p at a native 120hz !!!! ps4 pro at launch different accessions to have to best game play possible with my 4k setup most of it for rdr2 and my pc obvisly wich i play wich i play every aaa game at 4k i love the clearatiy and reg hd makes rdr2 look like a joke Edited November 28, 2018 by rdr2 WeWantClearPicture
Chris11 Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 Well , i enjoy the way they want to represent the Wild West, to give us a feeling of a large country , to see animals react when you aproach them of when they are hunted, i enjoy the feeling living in a world where there are alot of things happenning around you ,i feel like i am playing an outlaw , but it is clear now they made the game for xbox one x or for hardware that isnt out yet ( maybe ps5 ) because the ps4 and pro are not strong enough to graphically reflect how the game was made so it will not be fixed . Sometimes its absolutely amazing, i dont know wether iet is with day or night cycle but sometimes on my pro and 4k tv its jawdropping, it really is . But then 5 minutes later its blurry as hell ( even when its turned off ) , so i will finish the game and in a few yaers probably play it again on PS5 when playstations technology is ready for this, till then , i'll enjoy the story
MN32410 Red_&_Dead Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 Wow I looked at the next update of odyssey and nearly all issues that was discussed by the commuty will be fixed with the next update. This is a big support job with a very good moderation. 1
MasterMarston Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, MN32410 Red_&_Dead said: Wow I looked at the next update of odyssey and nearly all issues that was discussed by the commuty will be fixed with the next update. This is a big support job with a very good moderation. I bought this for my Xbox one x..still have to play it,but looking forward to it
rdr2 WeWantClearPicture Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) but the way resolution works if it was 2560x1440 would look better itself just left alone no checker boarding i dont thnk they realize the the upscalers in [MINE] our 4ktvs have awesome upscalers for instance on my pc hooked up to my 4k tv playing any aaa game at 2560x1440 looks incredible in it self on a 40 inch display 4k isnt even needed the tv upscaler is so good. my experiences tho even tricked someone into thinking it was 4k that sits infront of gaming pc all day.so the point is they can put this game at any 16 9 resolution they want there is no excuse for them to leave it at 1920x2160 its looks like mush and 1080p with decent taa looks better clearer theres a damn problem with the way theree running it just simply change the resolution. Edited November 28, 2018 by rdr2 WeWantClearPicture
MN32410 Red_&_Dead Posted November 29, 2018 Posted November 29, 2018 Yes, Native resolutions with a good tv looking better. When I play the last Uncharted and I see no difference in crispness and detail about checkerboard resolutions like Horizon Zero Dawn or Spiderman, than the Upscaler of the TV is good working. At first I had a cheaper 4k tv and the difference is enormous, to the tv that I bought in the summer of this year. I think a lot of people sse no difference between a 1440p res with good Antialiasing and real 4k. A lot of people see no difference between real 4k and downsampling 4k. The major reason is a cleaner image. Look at the PC you could not play a lot of games anymore without the shadertool Reshade, because of blurring postprocessing Antialiasing. Look at Ghost Recon Wildlands on the Pro this game uses a sharpening filter and a resolution of 1440p on the Pro. This is one of the cleanest looking games I´ve ever played. The mayor reason is for me a cleaner image. You can put more details in games that use a resolution of 1440p instead of more taxing checkerboard 4k. Better is to give us higher texture quality 4k or 3k images, this produce a lot better image as a 4k rsolution with lower texture quality. The texture quality in red dead redemption is´nt that high. I think it is a combination of 2k and 1k images. They can give the pro users a higher definition texture pack. You benefit on a 4k tv from this textures a lot more as from a 4k resolution. Textures must be created in 4k and than you can downgrade the texture to 2k, for midware PCs or the smaller consoles. But all Games would benefit from real 4k textures. On the PC we have the modding scene that shows us how real 4k Textures can look, not this upscaled 2k images that the developpers sell us as 4k Texturepack. This is no 4k. THe textures must be created as a 4k image. The most of the developpers going a wrong way with agressive postprocessing effects, bad postprocessing Antialiasing like TAA and lesser Texturequality to implement 4k resolutions.
RedBlurRedemption Posted November 29, 2018 Posted November 29, 2018 (edited) Since the update, the blur definitely got fixed. I really can tell. Sure, the xbox one x version might still be better of course but it became a lot clearer now. Just enjoy the game, it won’t get better on ps4 or ps4 pro. It’s good like it is. Please don’t hate but if you want the maximum out of this game buy a one x because there will always be a difference between the platforms. Sometimes more, sometimes less noticeable. But right now, with my TV settings, there really isn’t much a difference to the one x version really. Edited November 29, 2018 by RedBlurRedemption
Dubya75 Posted November 29, 2018 Posted November 29, 2018 8 hours ago, RedBlurRedemption said: Since the update, the blur definitely got fixed. I really can tell. Sure, the xbox one x version might still be better of course but it became a lot clearer now. Just enjoy the game, it won’t get better on ps4 or ps4 pro. It’s good like it is. Please don’t hate but if you want the maximum out of this game buy a one x because there will always be a difference between the platforms. Sometimes more, sometimes less noticeable. But right now, with my TV settings, there really isn’t much a difference to the one x version really. Really? Would you be so kind as to point this fix out in the Patch Notes then?
RedBlurRedemption Posted November 29, 2018 Posted November 29, 2018 46 minutes ago, Dubya75 said: Really? Would you be so kind as to point this fix out in the Patch Notes then? Of course they won’t say „patched the ridiculous blurriness that hurt some players eyes while playing the game“. But if you play online you can definitely see that it became a lot clearer. Due to the performance of the ps4 they won’t be able to fulfill miracles but they improved something, it’s my personal opinion 🤷♂️ And if they didn’t and perhaps they won’t in the future, there is nothing we can do except buying a xbox or wait for the pc version or just play the game we paid 60€/$60 (or even more) for.
Dubya75 Posted November 29, 2018 Posted November 29, 2018 50 minutes ago, RedBlurRedemption said: Of course they won’t say „patched the ridiculous blurriness that hurt some players eyes while playing the game“. But if you play online you can definitely see that it became a lot clearer. Due to the performance of the ps4 they won’t be able to fulfill miracles but they improved something, it’s my personal opinion 🤷♂️ And if they didn’t and perhaps they won’t in the future, there is nothing we can do except buying a xbox or wait for the pc version or just play the game we paid 60€/$60 (or even more) for. No, but they could say "Improved appearance of textures on PS4 Pro", couldn't they. This is the whole point of patch notes, so your response is rather silly and childish.
George110 Posted November 29, 2018 Posted November 29, 2018 I am confirming the same, yesterday played online and the image is much clearer, not incredibly but there is 30-40% improvement, also found the same message in this thread: https://www.resetera.com/threads/red-dead-redemption-2-df-analysis-read-op.76899/page-110 check third post from above.
GFCB Posted November 29, 2018 Posted November 29, 2018 41 minutes ago, George110 said: I am confirming the same, yesterday played online and the image is much clearer, not incredibly but there is 30-40% improvement, also found the same message in this thread: https://www.resetera.com/threads/red-dead-redemption-2-df-analysis-read-op.76899/page-110 check third post from above. And does the single player also benefit from this?
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