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This is the problem, right here. How do we come to any agreement upon it? Problem is, you have too much noise coming from the far extremes, that it drowns out any sensible discussion. This is mostly why there is never any sensible discussion on the subject. Attention is given to the wrong things, and since the media needs to grab views/readers attention, it often distorts and gives undue attention to things that don't deserve it. When media amplifies the signal, things that may seem important are most likely unimportant. Many psychological tests have been administer to demonstrate this. For example, following a large incident in which a bomb went off in Germany, media reports stated that the suspect was a right-wing extremist. When polling asked what citizens thought was the most important issue of nation, right-wing extremist shot from less that 0% to 35%. Likewise, following 9/11 in the US, terrorism and national security became the most important issues facing the nation by an outstanding 75%. As time went on, and the issue faded from out attention-span, those numbers declined. Media companies know this human attention flaw, and they often exploit it for their own gain.

I was thinking back and that is one thing I was surprised we didn't see more of in RDR. There was one main mission to steal the machine gun from the mine but that is the only one I can recall ever doing. Do you guys think we will see more action and missions in mines given that there are what seem to be more mountains and a larger landscape in RDR2?

I read about the mental studies behind showing a person's picture on the news and how it actually increases the likelihood of other people doing shooting sprees. A lot of kids and young adults that do this are unhinged and many seek attention. When they see other people shooting guns and getting their pictures plastered all over TV, it sends a very dark message to these kinds of people. No one is going to agree until reasonable people can be heard. Guns can't be made illegal because too many criminals hold unregistered firearms and the police are quite frankly not reliable enough to protect us (look at the 4 dudes that stood out of the school and did nothing). This, however, doesn't mean we can ignore guns completely. Guns are still a problem. If people truly want to stop school shootings, they should back the idea of having armed guards at every middle and high school in America. They should also back metal detectors being used and ID scans to get into these buildings. We have better security at our banks than our schools which is pretty damn sad.

I'd love to have more maze-like mines to traverse myself especially if they're filled with secrets all over. I was hoping for more from AC: Origins when exploring the pyramids but sadly they were pretty disappointing for me personally (I preferred the tombs from AC2). Hoping for it but not counting on it

You guys all made some fair points here. I think a lot of my worry over it is just down to issues on their end. I know no game is free from the chance of downtime or lag but still, GTA V was just so bad that I don't want to get my hopes up too high that all the issues from that will be fixed.

Yeah which sucks in a sense cause you can't just pop in a disc and play. I had to do this with CoD's latest game in the fall and it took nearly 2 hours. I have decent connection to the internet as well. Kind of annoying but at least this should prevent extended loading one would think.