YodaMan 3D

I know for months we have asked who would be returning from RDR, but what about cameos from the RDRevolver game? Though I don't expect the characters to make a huge intro, but it should be about the same time period. Do you think we will get easter eggs and see those characters in the back ground?

I knew more players preferred the campaign, and disliked the online stuff. Then again I knew more then a few that followed the YouTubers and admitted to me that they used hacks to stay competitive. Honest players burned out quick and the cheats I was comfortable with playing with. When you got players saying that the fool the servers into putting them into more or less their own private server, you got to ask how good the online really was when players avoid actually playing it to it's fullest.

I not saying they haven't delivered in the past, but the industry is changing and not sure if Rockstar will continue to do what they do now or follow the rest. They didn't used to have micro-transactions or sharkcards, but GTA got them. What will be there next be change? The never announced the release of the extended DLCs for the campaign, they did announce in an article they got cut for the sake of online stuff, that was where they thought the money was. To a point they was right, on the other hand, that told me that there could have been more story, which I enjoyed more then the online stuff. Will they now shorten the campaign for the thought extending online stuff. Now all of this is hypothetical on my part and have no reason to believe they have changed like everyone else, but I have watched the industry as it has been changing and watching everyone, even Rockstar made changes for the sake of money.

Speaking of slow cooker meals. Has anyone here tried Beer Brats in a slow cooker?

My concern that companies are pushing to get players to get to the online gameplay with micro-transactions that the SP campaigns will become nothing more then a tutorial to get you there. I saying that GTA5 was not entertaining, but when you discover that they had DLCs in the wing and cut them, so they could focus to the online stuff. Well, I become skeptical of what will happen down the road, they are delaying RDR2 online till November, but does that mean Nov 1st or Nov 30th. How soon before they see $$$$, knowing players will spend. I'm not interested in dwelling on the negative to be honest. I'd rather be hopeful RDO will turn out for the better but I'm realistic about it too. You don't haven't dwell on the negative, all I am suggesting is don't go in blind either. Good things, heck great things could happen with RDR2 and RDR2 Online. Then again they could be worse. I say be prepared for both.

The did crazy things in GTA, doesn't mean they can't be creative in RDR2. Just cause it limits the range doesn't mean it will limit the griefing.

I don't know about players liking the characters. I personally would have liked the extensions.

2 game manufacturers that I supported since forever was Ubisoft and Rockstar. Until the Division happened, talking with players in different forums over the past 3 years. I noticed a trend in what many players seemed to want in a game and developers adapted to impress those players. When often spoke against those changes saying that they must focus on their entire player base, not just a few but the whole. I usually found myself standing alone defending a dinosaur age. Rockstar will adapt to what they think the players want. GTA5 got shafted, not because they didn't think it needed anymore. They scrubbed the extra DLCs for no other reason then profit margin. If GTA5 is their model for RDR2, then they will scrub any plans for the fast buck. Not saying they can't do both, but when their SP modes are nothing but a tutorial for the online game. They don't care for their player base, just a few and not the whole. I wish for the best, but really not trusting them on their words alone, but their actions too.

I try to pay attention to the things that I can't control, cause you never know when those things may come back to bite you in the backside. I also don't dwell on them too much either. Sometimes life just gives you lemons, the alcoholic drink you make from it just shows your creativity. Once I became a father, I am more concerned by the actions of others and how it may affect his future.

In RDR, when John ran into all of his old friends, they had separated and went to new places. If and when you control the gang are you going to follow in the footsteps and make your mark on where your friends may set up. Head for Dutch's camp into the mountains, Fort Mercer, settle down in Beechers Hope, or head for Mexico? Or are you going to head in your own direction to see if their is better place to hang your hat?

When playing online, it was about playing a game with friends. I suggest you set that as your goal. I see no reason with the success financially that GTA did online that Rockstar would handle RDR2 any different. Though they claimed they will treat both game very different, there is no reason for them not to follow the same model in their designs for money. I read once that Rockstar has had enough success over the years that unlike other companies, they don't make games just to make money, they don't to payback their fans by continuing to make the games their fans like to play out of loyalty, now to do that they have to make money. Industry has changed and so the one they make money to support their games have changed. Last but not least, don't lie to ourselves, they are doing it strictly for the money.

When you say do it better, do you mean for them or us? Cause game industries seem to be heading in the wrong direction when they say they are heading in the right direction nowadays. Not saying games haven't improved overtime, but their constant need to need more money to keep each game going for longer then 24 hours, seems a bit much.

Some of us like the interaction with other players, a chance to tests ourselves against others. Sometimes its running with others in co-op to make us better, while for others it's about facing others that make you better. Some just can't handle social interaction, they feel that to impress you. They have to be the best. Like their GT will be legendary so some day you will tell your kids about the one time that you played against a player that whooped you 1 million times. For them it's fun, they don't care about being competitive, they only care about the winning. In these day and times, winning is everything and losing just bites.

Try looking at this way, the Egyptians have hieroglyphics that show a superior race, in translations supposedly they call them gods. What if they was real, just not from this planet. That would make them aliens to us. So to one set of humans they saw them from a perspective of them one thing and you and I being raised in a different time, may see them if the showed up as something else. Not saying they are real, I have no real proof either way. It would be a matter of perspective based on ones' personal knowledge. Right or wrong.

I have had that with players flying over in jets and bombing my son and I. Those same players will probably brag to their friends about what a loser you are and how great they are at PvP. lol

I am sure in will be similar economy, out of whack. I hope it is more cooperative gameplay, but that isn't the way the game industry has been heading. The market seems to support the toxic behavior in open world environment. I hope not but I have a bad feeling in my gut closer we get to November.

I agree with you guys and that is why I stopped playing games with the guy. It just seems odd that some players so easily cross the line rather then do the right thing.

I was talking with a friend from my friends' list and he was telling me that he can't remember the last time he has played a game that he hasn't used a cheat, glitch, or hack intentionally just to stay competitive, mostly a PvP player. I understand and don't need a confession here if you use them. Just curious how many feel it is ok to use a cheat, glitch, or hack if others are doing it in the game just so you can keep up?

Earning $20 million isn't easy in GTA:O from level one. It was easier in the beginning then it is now in my opinion, but I say that because a 1st level guy doesn't stand a chance against players that have been playing for years. Shark Cards can help, but they don't necessarily make you a good player. Youtube, which I am not a fan of does show players easier ways to earn money, many that exploit glitches and hacks. RDR2:O will have those as well, I suppose. We are hyped and have been so for almost a decade. Rockstar has been better then most companies, but they also gave away a lot of free updates. Not everyone who played paid for those, they came from shark card users for GTA:O and RDR2:O will have similar upgrades. It isn't all their fault either, it is those who abuse the system. Regardless of cost. I agree with you. I am going in trying to look for the bad things till Rockstar shows me that there is no bad stuff. Meanwhile the abusers will still be there abusing cause they can.

If I remember correctly, my son and I started playing once. He really wanted to play so we waited forever for a server, finally got in and about 2 mins in we find each other and then we got a message about not enough players and got booted out, never could get back in.

Valid point and pending on one's perspective they maybe the same thing.

@Truth I got stuck on the island chasing after the dragon guy and some how got too much loot and can't seem to sell it fast enough. My favorite sidekick is stuck on the mainland because at the time it wouldn't let you bring them on the boat ride. So I eventually just called it.

Two things, I own Friday the 13th and could never find anyone on to play the game with ever. The second thing is TD2 was started within a few weeks of release of TD because they learned everything they needed to from TD to make TD2. TD is almost 3 years old and keeps getting worse with each new update and keeps ignoring all suggestions by the players still playing. Yet they learned all that they needed from a few weeks of release on how to make the new game better. I wish you luck, but I won't be buying. I already played the beta and the Ubi staff is awkward when dealing with issues.

Regardless of age, nowadays no guy should act that way. Trying to raise a son in this world where I tell him to be respectful regardless of your differences and then have others do the exact opposite. I have tried to explain they are showing him "what not to do".

The best argument I can give is the Division, they showed gameplay at E3 and at release, we didn't get that, we never got it. I agree that things could get shady and get shady fast. Last thing we need to do is get over-hyped before the game gets released, regardless of who else may have played it and said it is great. That person wasn't me, so it's hard for me to believe their critiques. Soon though, I will be playing and have my day, as well as the rest of you will as well.