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Actually 1 hour PVP in Freeroam is verry effektive in grinding XP´s as you get a lot per shot if you use all the bonuses awarded for the different killing styles. Thats actually all you get, as there are no Dollars or Gold bonuses. If you find a Player enjoying PVP (yes there are many even lots here seem not to belive so) this can be a good boost and I think thats much more honor full then puting a tape on the controler to make the player move and enter a modus for the entire night, (think thats stopped by R+ alreaddy). Please stopp announcing you are hunted by any players. This game was reduced to passive modes and parley function so actualy a hunt is not possible if you are using this Options properly.

Thats so true. In Special if you get a distanced head shot and the guy then diaspears to the next possible Mission Point to hide and get labled blue immediatly. Partly fast travle Posts are used to escape into the endless grey of the far map or you get shot, just to witness the guy leaving the map immediatly after he killed you. That is the true annoyment. As Long as shooters stay fair, all good for my Point of view.

Just to get this cleared: all I said is it works like a cheat not that it is a cheat (a big difference). A cheat allows you to short cut and avoid the need to do the necessary like Jumping through a Level form a to b. Taking the cheat allows you to finish the Level and go directly to the next one. You use the cheat once on a tricky and verry dificult bit in the Level. What happens now is you start the next Level but when you get to the next tricky part which is much easier then the one you choosen to take the cheat first you think, wait, I use the cheat again so I avoid the need to learn this jump. Given this you continue to use it more often and have finished the game after 30 minutes. You will not go back to the first Level to see it all again and to try it without the cheat as you now know the trick for the easy way and therfore loose the will to try harder (which is human nature). So thats exactly what can happen to you if you start with passiv mode. You will intend to just use it for the beginning until you can play solid. But as soon as something happens and you get shot the first time while playing offensive you will think, well maybe I try later again and move back to passiv. So you might end up at Level 100 just played passiv (as said thats human). Thats why it works similar to a cheat. It easys up the challenge and takes away the challenge and that is a double sided coin, thats all I tried to express with that Cheat example. By the way Money glitches have the same effect for you. The goods loose their attraction and worth as you just can easy glitch them or the Money to get them. So do yourself a favour and stay away from that as you ruin the game for yourself as it takes your challenge off. Thats just my opinion and I have no issue with anyone prefering passiv (seems like I have to express that again)

Thanks and could´nt agree more to the everyone just Spills out his Point of view. Thats good as it builds any discussion. I am wondered form day 1 when they announced the Bounty System that they did´nt include Players for the hunt as a Mission (simmilar to assasination) and did not use the oppertunity to educate the others. Means, if I have the Ingame killerattitude I am raised in the Bounty I am worth some and later more Dollars. Now others could see my Bounty at the Sherrifs Office for example and accept a Mission to kill that Player and get each the Bounty he has on his poll from the game not that Player. He could be fined with Honor loss or so. That would give the good and the bad a role and allow the Farmers and hunters to expect the good to defend them against the Killers. So it would build Content and it would also guide Players to a direction which means more or less PVP for them not the game in total.

Correct I argued that taking the PVP off completly from the FR will take some of the games Content so I tried to Show the advantage and it wasnt me (again) who sticked doings to a Kind of attitude or so. so I am a bit wondered you blame this to me. Hence me not being a native english Speaker. So never ment to offend anyone and actually named my concerns about that some Posts before, I just wanted to Show a different point of view on the matter of PVP/PVE in FR. think thats what such Folders are for. Thats all.

Thanks @Kean_1 I apprchiate this as there is no need to categorise one or the other just to get arguments looking more robust which never is the case. Just to add to the Topic, this game is a glance and currently a verry good PVP/PVE mix but I fear pressing it more and more to the PVE Corner will ruin the game on the Long term, Cause there are plenty pure PVE and plenty pure PVP games out there but this mix here is unique and yes I agree, we Players design it with our reactions as well and it would be sad taking away the major difference to other games in the market which is the PVE/PVP mix. So all I said is, do you´re passiv Play as Long as ever you want, I only wanted to say that you loose some part of the game ellements doing so and if you are happy to loose them as you feel you dont need them, go on, otherwise rething your setting.

Ist the old discussion but th egame changed completly so still blowing into the same horn dosent helöp at all! of Course, because you are even to proud to press the parley button once killed and instead enjoy to overstretch the matter meaningless, is that what you say? I never wrote about spawncamping as a D*ck as you call it, but instead spoke about a game element with a serious argumentation and all you can do is repeat the "Oh my got I get griefed cause I don´t parley and am not able to archieve anythign here" argument, even R* ensured you keep your corps and stuff and loose Nothing . We speak about 1 single kill you Risk! A endless gunfight is not the subject here its more about loosing Long term attraction to the game and so on. I hoped for more robust facts or a solid discussion here. So forgive me but your post is not adding much here.

After reading all of the above I have to say thats nice but finaly the Players will do what the Players will do and I still see lots of shoot Outs on the FR map and that is good. I also tell you that I rejoin every day with a low aggression Level (I Play offensive of Course) and that it does not matteer that I shot some blue Players the night before (I always wait for the first shot before I go on Revenge mode). I think ist fair that you guys now can grind forever in a passiv mode and just hunt and collect berrys but for a lot of Players out there also the PVP ellement is important and also to be able to do PVP on a big map and not in a pleashure dome like a Modus. In the same way you argue those can argue for their right to do so as well. I dont want to grind without any risk until I achieved Level 100 I want the tension on the FR map and I want to "feel" the win when I made it to the butcher and so on. So a lot of the games tension is lost if I do it all in defensive mode as ist not really a challenge at all. Would´nt that mean consequently to ask for getting all the grind till Level 100 as a starter so you would´nt Need to skin 100 deers and collect 1000 herbs instead? You see it´s a part of the game but well I understood that you guys here see this different. One last Thing on that Topic, the passiv mode is not so much different to the effect of a cheat. It short cuts the risk and therfore the game and the experience so it takes the challenge away and as humans are that way, you will, once activated, not deactivate it again as a human always chooses the easiest way but finally this is a game and that means a lot of it lives from the challenge it gives and that is not the brainless NPC fights ist the fights with real humans as well as the hunting and crafting elelements and short cuting this takes a big part of the fun and experience away.

Might be the annimals are currently taken off to answer this Fish Glitch approach untill under controll again? Just a guess but it Shows, using Glitches is a no go. The System seems to collapse on it (something seen also during the Puma glitch times) and using such ruins the game for yourself as well, as ist completly boring to achieve anything that way. The way is the objective in a game and if you use cheats or so, you short cut to much, so the attraction mostly is gone afterwards and you will not like the game any more as not being challenging at all then. No one would want to pay for a Cinema film , to see the last 10 minutes before the film Even started or?

There is some serious concerns as yesterday there had been several bugs and non performing Maps all seems to be related to a big amount burned horse Corps, still Living, spawning up in Valentine. Here is a pic from the short film I did on it. There were also the ghost carriages which seem to have been driven by invissible NPC´s. R* must be aware, so hopefully it´s gone soon and we possibly get some Dollars or Gold as comprehension?

Ok. fair enough.

I see it more as an try by me to present something in a nice and friendly way. Thats it. Its more Art für me. Possibly just take a look it will cost you only some minuts and you have the link anyway in my reference page here in this Forum. Its good for the Forum I am in here in my country but who knows? So for me you´re answer sounds perfect. Just wanted to know if I can add such a link if it is a matter of a Question in a text here or so. But as said , take a look. Thanks,

@Kean_1 Hi Kean_1 Think I got it. I have a you tube channel, I am not profiting from it. I use it to put my fils on. I have films like where I answer an assasination attempt instead of going to flee as boring for both sides and explain what I do, I have a carriage race we did from Rhodes to Tumbleweed (7 carriages) in a bigger community with someone trying to Sabotage it, filmed in a funny way and I have some films on the Modis and 2 about the Train usage and whats possible with the train and so on. Would that fit into your allowed material and shall I enter a link then at the subject relevant? Sorry, but I think ist better to ask first then to annoy anyone,

The Bleeb collor was rested to blue with the change as I understand it. The Honor not. I think I wrote it here alreaddy 2 days ago? So all are blue. Players shooting you turn imediatly blue after going to a shop or camp or after a Moment of time. If you shoot them then again you get a Bounty. That forms the anti griefing elelment. Before you become permanently red you will need to do a good amount of Kills and you are warned due to slowly growing up the Bleepcollorbar. If you cool down all good. To stay Passiv you´re not allowed any defense and need to flee but if you defend you shoot a red dot ist fine but you are put to offensive then. If he turned blue again alreaddy, you become imediatly the agressor. So watch out before you shoot even in self defense. By the way and to the Mod here. Can I add a Vid here soemwhere or a short cut to my vids? Have some about ingame situations or train usage I produced which might be a help for one or the other? If not all good but wanted to ask. Also you find them in my Profile here if you want to take a look first?

Did you realise alreaddy that you can pick up pics now and sell them at the butcher? I just sold a pic 1* for 80 Cent. Hey thats a gratis round Poker. So get the Ham or better the Fat.