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Sure does. Gotta wave the gun back and forth over target but it will paint em

Yes, I suspect that this is what the OP is talking about. I've never tried it, but am I right in thinking that paint it black also works against SB?

Me too! I remember Everquest where if you died you had a long and naked trek back to the zone where you died, to "try" and sneak back to your corpse, which was now camped by the monsters that already beat you when you had armor and weapons, just to try and get your stuff back. This usually did not end well, of course. Oh, and by dying, you lost xp and could actually de-level yourself in the process! Ah, fun times.

HuDawg, you have effectively summed up the differences between you and I and why you seem confused by my statement. I am not playing RDO as a shooter. I bought RDR2 to play a western. To enjoy an old west setting with old west plot themes, stories, characters and events. RDR2 was not a shooter. It was/is a story based, single player, mission driven, immersion into the trials and troubles of being a bandit on the run in the old west. This is what I played to 100% completion in the single player mode and what I want to continue to play in a shared online world with folks who share my love of old west tropes. I am not playing RDO to run around shooting everything that moves or player that crosses my path. If I want to do that, I will join a PVP event (make those free aim, I don't care) but I rarely do join such events because I find them boring and not at all immersive in terms of experiencing an old west online world. I don't personally recall events in the old days were men and women were encouraged to shoot, dynamite, and kill one another for sport. Maybe I just missed those tales. /shrug Like I said in a previous comment, I like PVP. I enjoy PVP aspects of the game and enjoy the free roam dangers that an open PVP world allows. But that doesn't mean I play this game to PVP. I play this game for the western tropes, the missions, the immersion of riding, hunting, fishing, making friends, making enemies, and generally playing and leveling up a cool western character in a cool western world. Making the game more PVP centric simply does not interest me, much. I would much rather R* focus on more missions, more cooperative events, more free roam events, more random encounters, more NPC characters and interactions, more reasons to Hunt and Craft, more reasons to use your camp and defend it, continuing to fix bugs, etc, etc. If I wanted to play a straight up shooter game, I have better games to choose from. That's not what I play RDO for. Obviously, I may be in the minority. But that's OK. I paid in, so I'm entitled to share my mind as well. YMMV.

I think he is talking about PvP modes = plunder , up in smoke , spoiles of war ! Sb can make it difficult to counter runners using it. I myself Will guard camp after seeing someone running it and just wait for the tackle and head smash. It in no way ruins anything though !

No. I am not even in game chat. I create a Psn party chat to avoid hearing the nonsense players talk about, heavy mouth breathers, sqeakers, crappy music, etc. I don’t have the patience or temperament to talk to randoms. Besides, none of these game modes require a ton of talking. Pretty straight forward. If I want a coordinated team, I run with a posse. In my experience giving randoms instructions is about as useful as using a condom with holes in it. Not worth the added stress. IMO

i haven't seen many people boating on the ocean. there is a huge ocean area outside of the map. if you go any direction for about an hour and a half, your boat will sink and you will separate from your boat. if you do it right, you will fall away from your boat instead of hitting it and dying. at this point, you are floating under the map. visually, it looks like you are getting pushed back, but if you put a marker or waypoint, you can see that you can still float further. after floating for a little over four hours, your character will begin to float away from you until he is no longer visible. using the mini map, you can still see your character moving. in fact, at this point your character will continue to move without any help. after about three days of that, about the only cool thing i noticed is the lightning begins to strike upside down and the storms look pretty cool. the other interesting thing i found is when you get close to where your boat will sink, there appears to be a strange reflection of the sun and moon. at times it looks like a second sun. i think that guarma may have it's own sun and moon. i have seen some cool videos on this, but i don't think i can recommend them here because i made them. let me know if any of you have done this and your thoughts.

Exactly man. I have nothing against groups. I can run with several posses anytime I want, I just sometimes choose to run solo. But the match making is trash. If you load in with 4 of your buddies, the game constantly wants to split your up. Every other PVP game allows you to stick together . Hopefully that gets fixed. And if you desire to run with people in Showdown, Free Roam,etc..........it is beyond easy to find people. I just sometimes like to run solo because I want to relax or just want quite. But hating on posses wanting to play together is silly. I never seen someone kicked that wasn't in the top 3/mvp game after game. Players vote people out that they deem are better than them so they have a better chance. It isn't that complicated. It is a sad state of affairs. If you can't handle the competition of the the lobby your in , find another one. Are you that entitled that you feel the need to ruin someone else's game?

That happened to two guys in my posse at the same time last week. I couldn't stop laughing. It was horrible because they were making diabetic jokes (one of them is a diabetic so I guess that makes it somewhat okay? lol)

^^^ I agree...well said. I went from a 'holy smokes, these graphic look awesome' to a 'meh...looks nice'. The game has lost some of its beauty and lustre...and it now looks at tad bit drab and muddy. I really didn't think it would be much of a hit... but it does change the way I feel about the game now. I'm all about visual candy. It's pretty equal to gameplay for me.

I noticed if you put away your gun and just ride to some place quickly for some unrelated thing, every little bird in the game will make an appearance until you slow down and arm yourself then its a wasteland. Ive been hunting a Robin for what seems like weeks, damn thing, ive never seen one. But, the Dakota river in many locations spawns lots of birds, and the river north west of Annesburg also spawned lots of woodpeckers, and orioles and other birds, never a damn robin but lots of others. Oh, and by the Downes place I saw mutliple red cardinals, and also by the dinosaur lady's place.

I did the same thing...20 minutes same spot...lol...I was turning the R counterclockwise instead of clockwise.....the R at the bottom of the screen should move with you. If that helps