The Beta has Outworn its Welcome (Rant-a-tat-tat)

[Major Dammidge]

@HuDawg you and @YodaMan 3D are never going to agree. This is like a tennis match back and forth and back and forth.. good lively debate well maybe. In writing Rockstar classifies "griefing" as "Disruptive Behavior" which makes it abundantly clear that it is a detractor and they consider it undesirable. While someone may want to defend the right to be shot in the back by a griefer, Rockstar will absolutely do something about it but only if and when enough players file the reports under disturbing behavior so they can determine the extent of it happening. I wish both of you had used the time for this thread in my posse. We would have all had fun, HuDawg getting to be the chief griefer assassin and Yodaman and I being protected to carry on as usual lol. The one benefit I have gotten from Reading every Post in this thread is that I will never buy or play GTA 🤯 whether it is lobbies or not I am going to place my faith in Rockstar providing some kind of relief.

[mizTik]

Not everyone has had "major" issues with griefers. I have had some run-ins but I just leave the server, wait a few minutes, and hop back online. I am usually put in a new server and it is rare that I run into a new pack of these players. I have a feeling certain people are being targeted based on usernames and what they have on their character. 

[Archer_58]

I never played in the public server on RD1. Give us the private server. I have friends so I don't need strangers to play online.

[HuDawg]

18 hours ago, YodaMan 3D said:

I don't mind the idea of friendly lobbies.   Your idea of run, run, run away to another lobby to me shows ignorance.   Giving a PvE player another option to deal and create separation that doesn't require them to run off to another lobby.  Is just short sighted, 

...Choosing not to play in public FFA lobbies is not RUNNING away.   Its a simple option.  

As in you either want to be neck deep in public bullsh*t.. Or you don't.  You clearly don't.  I clearly do.

The options should exist. 

18 hours ago, YodaMan 3D said:

.  PvEvP doesn't mean you shouldn't have accountability for your actions.  It does need to be controlled to the point it doesn't affect PvP choices, but right now Griefers limit PvE choices, they really eliminate options for those players.  

Theres nothing R* can do about it.. that won't ruin the game for people who love the FFA feel of public lobbies.

But friendly lobbies and private lobbies does solve getting killed by unfriendly players.    And it would only take a a few seconds to switch between the lobbies.

[HuDawg]

12 hours ago, Major Dammidge said:

I wish both of you had used the time for this thread in my posse. We would have all had fun, HuDawg getting to be the chief griefer assassin and Yodaman and I being protected to carry on as usual lol. The one benefit I have gotten from Reading every Post in this thread is that I will never buy or play GTA 🤯 whether it is lobbies or not I am going to place my faith in Rockstar providing some kind of relief.

Il add you tonight when I get off work..   You can always roll with me.     

Hell, sometimes I ride around through town with a animal corpse on my horse.. Not to sell it, but to bait assholes to shoot at me.

 

[WhiskeySour]

I have not played RDO since sometime around Xmas. With it's current state and with what little Rockstar has said about future plans I am not really that interested in online.

Disconnects, glitches and being hunted by randoms to me that is all forms of griefing. Never played GTA or any of the other Red Dead versions and don't care how things are done with those games. I have played different online games since sometime in 1995 and RDO is done in a strange way from where I sit.

Single player is awesome and I don't regret buying it. I might even be interested is a future single player DLC. Online tho, meh.

[BropolloCreed79]

19 hours ago, HuDawg said:

Its not like you will have to deliver weed across the entire map in a slow ass mini van while someone in a fighter jet targets your ass.

You're right.  You'll  have to deliver Moonshine in a slow wagon while O'Driscolls, Murfees, & Lemyone Boys try to take you down like a pack of wolves on a wounded elk.

19 hours ago, HuDawg said:

That would be like adding flying unicorns that shoot cannon balls out its ass in Red Dead O.

What if that unicorn is producing ice cream instead of cannon balls?

 

58 minutes ago, HuDawg said:

Choosing not to play in public FFA lobbies is not RUNNING away

You're right, THIS is running away:

 

40 minutes ago, WhiskeySour said:

Single player is awesome and I don't regret buying it. I might even be interested is a future single player DLC. Online tho, meh.

That's exactly where I am until the "Beta" becomes the full release.  Hardly appropriate to make an assessment of what we think it will be versus what it is right now.

And right now, it's a bit of a mess.

53 minutes ago, HuDawg said:

Not to sell it, but to bait assholes to shoot at me.

The troll move is to have it be a one-star carcass that's already skinned.

10 hours ago, mizTik said:

I have a feeling certain people are being targeted based on usernames and what they have on their character.

That requires waaaaaay too much effort than your average troll is going to make.  Most of the time, it's a crime of opportunity, nothing more, nothing less.

19 hours ago, YodaMan 3D said:

Changes are coming and we don't know how good or how bad.

I'd be willing to bet that apart from the afore-mentioned changes that are confirmed to be incoming (which I honestly believe will mitigate a big portion of the current issues), very little else will be done in the foreseeable future.  If I had to guess, they're focused on lauching modes and content now, as opposed to mechanics.  But I could be wrong.

[Major Dammidge]

21 hours ago, mizTik said:

certain people are being targeted based on usernames and what they have on their character. 

I think this has merit because I've certainly had the same thoughts: I am not Chinese but my name is WehTuFat, meant to be as funny as it sounds. The second thing is more troubling. I use a female character and I cannot tell you how weird it has been to have a player lasso me time and again time and again time and again in the same few minutes to where I have to choose "Die" to escape. Three occasions of that. as stated before in this form you don't need to have all of your marbles to buy a  game and play online

[ItsTreesAndDen]

As I've said in another post, the following are suggestions i have for any future expansions or when online leaves beta;

• Selling/buying ranches/homes or cottages. (Farming and managing/trading livestock) 
• Trading of horses.
• Buying/selling/trading of wagons and coaches. 
• A bounty system to deter griefing (the more you kill players who haven't shot at you or shown any aggression towards you the higher your bounty and it stays with you regardless of lobby refresh, just an idea).
• Private lobbies which we can invite friends and other players to hunt and just mess around free of worries.
• Free-aim lobbies. 
• Flesh out the online story mission more maybe with appearances from more side characters from the Van Der Linde gang (e.g. Lenny handing out bank robbery missions, Pearson sending you for herb (other food items) gathering missions or Javier giving you train robbing missions, etc).
• More ways to interact with the train. 
• An OFFICIAL FIGHT CLUB (this is my dream for online) where clubs can be formed with daily/weekly/monthly leaderboards and events to compete with other clubs, bets can be made, griefers can't ruin it and different locations/setting each time.
• Ability to sell or trades guns that you don't want anymore (the ability to remove any gun from weapon wheel and store in some sort of gun locker in your camp).
• PLEASE PLEASE more saved outfit slots (upgrading horse satchels giving ability to store more saved outfits).
• The ability to be a Hired gun. When activated, players in lobbies are able to see a list of available Hired guns and based on your stats/experience/honour can hire you for protection by an hourly/minute rate if they require only temporary protection without wanting to invite to posse.
• More horse breeds with more choices of coats to buy and more mane/tail styles. To be able to trade and actually sell horses, not just discard them)
• PASSIVE MODE and maybe a Passive Hunter mode to be able to only use the bow and other hunting weapons but not able to lock onto players and npc's, only animals.

[Kean_1]

45 minutes ago, ItsTreesAndDen said:

As I've said in another post, the following are suggestions i have for any future expansions or when online leaves beta;

Hope you're submitting these to R*.  Just a word of caution however, they have a 500 character limit so you'll need to break it up into chunks and make multiple entries.

https://www.rockstargames.com/reddeadredemption2/online/feedback?step=f2e50892

[ItsTreesAndDen]

1 minute ago, Kean_1 said:

Hope you're submitting these to R*.  Just a word of caution however, they have a 500 character limit so you'll need to break it up into chunks and make multiple entries.

https://www.rockstargames.com/reddeadredemption2/online/feedback?step=f2e50892

I have thanks, broke it up into sections.