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Hopes, Dreams, and The Future of RDO


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I'll be writing about my favorite aspects of RDO, specific major criticisms, and the things I'm most hopeful for R* to expand on. Feel free to chime in and add some realistic speculation that would make sense for R* to add as well as problems (other than obvious bugs) that must be fixed! 

Please keep the feedback productive! I think RDO nails certain things single player couldn't, putting You into the same world that the main characters exist in. Obviously it has flaws but the world they built has earned them some time to work through the Beta. Many games these days stay in Beta for years and still get a pass. GTAV is still getting updates 5 years later! This is the big picture to keep in mind! 

First off, I have a few priorities that me and many other likeminded players are concerned about. I play FREE AIM ONLY along with about 10 other friends as we once did in Red Dead 1 Online and we know theres more out there. Back then referred to as Hardcore lobbies. Its a major concern to us that R* splits Casual (auto aim) and Hardcore (Free aim) lobbies ASAP. Let me just say this would not be a wild idea at all if they did so upon release of the beta (and if you're offended or have a problem with the idea of free-aim taking more skill you're probably part of the problem).. :)

Anyway, I can go on and on about free aim. So as not to dwell only on that issue in this thread, lets expand on the idea of Hardcore lobbies, (Assuming R* will keep an already good idea from RD1 and effectively fix griefing issues and increase immersion). 

I'm hoping that changes to the Radar and Map are made. A slightly faded mini map would be a good idea, not showing players unless sprinting or shooting. We all rely on our radar probably a little too much. I find myself constantly checking the map. Additionally, I would suggest that instead of showing exact locations of players on the map, they just replace them with a red glow to show them in the area.. Forcing players to engage in their surroundings and immerse! Keep red glow on the radar, and gamertags above heads (optional would be nice) to recognize players. Thats all! 

This seems like a good start for now..  Without fighting or straight up negative complaints, what productive/clever additions would you like to see in RDO? key topics to include here can be:

Enjoying the actual game (why or why not?)...

Is R* making smart, viable decisions for the future and the benefit/enjoyment of players?...

What to add?? (Mounts, Camp Upgrades, Abilities, Emotes, Trading)? Just to name a few..

 

Thanks!

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There is free aim, against slippery bastards such as myself.

My dreams are for cattle rustling an entire herd slowly through the Western frontier with no trouble along the way. I want hundreds of intricate solo assassination missions close to Hitman agent 47 games. I want the special snake oil to work. I need bandoliers for more 12ga ammunition.  We need a couple thousand rare encounters. I want single player stories with or without friends. Brothels. Poker. Liar's dice. GUN DUELS at high noon. Thieve's Landing to develop.

Reminicent of the Wild Wasteland perk in New Vegas, we are hanged to enter the world of Old West horror for Undead Nightmare Online next Halloween with a Back To The Future 3 type DLC in a futuristic New Austin with fully customizable spaceships so I can be a Space Pirate with a full auto suppressed shotgun, cybernetics, and a Harley-Davidson. I want to kill zombies and aliens and chupacabras with Arthur Morgan at our side, I want to randomly take my binoculars out to find a hungry coyote forever chase a roadrunner, and our soul sold to the devil for cheap. Giant monster Rattlesnakes for a final boss. Give me the dark horse, not a gold dishonorable buckle. At least give us bad men makeshift iron chestplates. To return back like nothing happened, we simply crawl out of a grave.

I want a map based on the real life Outlaw Trail. A kingdom for bandits. Custom NPC companions that watch our back. Elaborate bank and train robberies where the escape is planned better than the heists, like fresh horses hitched to evade capture. I want to feel like the villain that I am, the game already makes me feel like this, but I want it magnified times eternity. Call this the Black Hat DLC, where the hogtied victim splatters on the train tracks like in RDR1. 

I want a Sisika Prison DLC, where low honor characters do time. Stripped of our firepower. With only Shanks and fists. Ultimately trying to escape.

Who knows, maybe one day own a ranch and do boring cowboy chores.

 I want to own the slaughterhouse outside Saint Denis, so I can sit in the office and watch and hear the suffering of pigs and cattle. I want to sell humans for meat at Butcher's Creek because we all know they're cannibals. 

 I want a Spaghetti Western DLC with the score done by Ennio Morricone before he passes. Directed by Clint Eastwood.

Expand hunting out to set TRAPS, for animals and humans. More paid killing tracking missions. And for STEALTH to be a goddamn option.

Harmonica emotes so we can hum our own haunting tunes, thinking of revenge. 

More RPG elements like Fallout New Vegas and no more pvp competitive horse manure. Free roam is the only way I'll play. More FREEDOM. Like the smoking animation to last awhile or while idling. Or pissing in the outhouse or hell, baths, fishing on boats WTF. People want more realism to escape reality. 

Open up the interiors like churches, restaurants, casinos..... Jobs, jobs, jobs. Like the pony express, bartending or moonshine distilleries, stagecoaches, gunsmiths, undertakers, coal mining, bounty hunters, preachers, oil barons, big cattle, bullriding, circus freak, the army, housewives or prostitutes for women lol, sheriffs for "honorable" players. Or to finish the railroads towards the Pacific. With everything being an option and depending on our honor level.

I personally want Filipino martial arts for my character since it was around at the time and a southeast Asian prahu pirate ship. More personal customization to attempt to make every player you meet a unique character themselves. 

The ability to make a campfire and small tent anywhere on the goddamn map.

The Old West was the origin of North America's deep love of guns and the final days where the mode of transport breathed and crapped all over the place. The potential here is a limitless goldmine. I'll be playing this forever even after Cyberpunk 2077 and Outer Worlds releases.

"High" honor and low honor players need completely different pathways, experiences, rewards, and consequences. The world around us and the NPC's should act accordingly. 

AND NO MORE TIME LIMITS. I ride into town slow and walk through saloon doors swinging.

 

 

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1 hour ago, ShotgunForHire said:

There is free aim, against slippery bastards such as myself.

My dreams are for cattle rustling an entire herd slowly through the Western frontier with no trouble along the way. I want hundreds of intricate solo assassination missions close to Hitman agent 47 games. I want the special snake oil to work. I need bandoliers for more 12ga ammunition.  We need a couple thousand rare encounters. I want single player stories with or without friends. Brothels. Poker. Liar's dice. GUN DUELS at high noon. Thieve's Landing to develop.

Reminicent of the Wild Wasteland perk in New Vegas, we are hanged to enter the world of Old West horror for Undead Nightmare Online next Halloween with a Back To The Future 3 type DLC in a futuristic New Austin with fully customizable spaceships so I can be a Space Pirate with a full auto suppressed shotgun, cybernetics, and a Harley-Davidson. I want to kill zombies and aliens and chupacabras with Arthur Morgan at our side, I want to randomly take my binoculars out to find a hungry coyote forever chase a roadrunner, and our soul sold to the devil for cheap. Giant monster Rattlesnakes for a final boss. Give me the dark horse, not a gold dishonorable buckle. At least give us bad men makeshift iron chestplates. To return back like nothing happened, we simply crawl out of a grave.

I want a map based on the real life Outlaw Trail. A kingdom for bandits. Custom NPC companions that watch our back. Elaborate bank and train robberies where the escape is planned better than the heists, like fresh horses hitched to evade capture. I want to feel like the villain that I am, the game already makes me feel like this, but I want it magnified times eternity. Call this the Black Hat DLC, where the hogtied victim splatters on the train tracks like in RDR1. 

I want a Sisika Prison DLC, where low honor characters do time. Stripped of our firepower. With only Shanks and fists. Ultimately trying to escape.

Who knows, maybe one day own a ranch and do boring cowboy chores.

 I want to own the slaughterhouse outside Saint Denis, so I can sit in the office and watch and hear the suffering of pigs and cattle. I want to sell humans for meat at Butcher's Creek because we all know they're cannibals. 

 I want a Spaghetti Western DLC with the score done by Ennio Morricone before he passes. Directed by Clint Eastwood.

Expand hunting out to set TRAPS, for animals and humans. More paid killing tracking missions. And for STEALTH to be a goddamn option.

Harmonica emotes so we can hum our own haunting tunes, thinking of revenge. 

More RPG elements like Fallout New Vegas and no more pvp competitive horse manure. Free roam is the only way I'll play. More FREEDOM. Like the smoking animation to last awhile or while idling. Or pissing in the outhouse or hell, baths, fishing on boats WTF. People want more realism to escape reality. 

Open up the interiors like churches, restaurants, casinos..... Jobs, jobs, jobs. Like the pony express, bartending or moonshine distilleries, stagecoaches, gunsmiths, undertakers, coal mining, bounty hunters, preachers, oil barons, big cattle, bullriding, circus freak, the army, housewives or prostitutes for women lol, sheriffs for "honorable" players. Or to finish the railroads towards the Pacific. With everything being an option and depending on our honor level.

I personally want Filipino martial arts for my character since it was around at the time and a southeast Asian prahu pirate ship. More personal customization to attempt to make every player you meet a unique character themselves. 

The ability to make a campfire and small tent anywhere on the goddamn map.

The Old West was the origin of North America's deep love of guns and the final days where the mode of transport breathed and crapped all over the place. The potential here is a limitless goldmine. I'll be playing this forever even after Cyberpunk 2077 and Outer Worlds releases.

"High" honor and low honor players need completely different pathways, experiences, rewards, and consequences. The world around us and the NPC's should act accordingly. 

AND NO MORE TIME LIMITS. I ride into town slow and walk through saloon doors swinging.

 

 

Whew thats alot.. R* take notes haha. 

Peaceful ranching herding and hunting incentives would be amazing. Only played the 1 mission herding sheep and the 1 photography mission herding horses in solo. Along with that we will need a Meat Rack for storing carcasses in camp, a Pelt refining station to possibly turn good pelts into perfects using other ingredients. and CAMP STEW. 

 

Looking to games like New Vegas could be a really good idea for R*.. I dont think we will get campfires just *anywhere* but having the option to make a small fire and tent vs. a whole camp would be really nice. and being able to go inside your tent  for sure. 

 

Hell yes to random events without being repetitive. Limits to 1 player activating them every 4-5 hours. NPCs could absolutely have new and better roles. Low honor should allow hiring Del Lobos or certain Mercenaries while high honor should allow bribing police or hiring bounty hunters/Grays. Low/ high honor should also affect what Missions you can accept and Honorable sheriff-type missions need to give player assassinations as well. So players dont miss out on mission types because of honor. But More player assasinations from low honor people like Joe or the Boy. Hiring NPCs and camp guards will be crucial. 

 

Completely agree about smoking longer just like drinking a beer, prostitutes should be acceptable in online as Arthur may have had his priorities / standards to not accept them and thats fine. They could easily have the screen go dark when you accept them and just wake up in the bedroom with your clothes back on n with cores refreshed. Instrument emotes or items purchasable for camp, banjo and harmonica. We share alot of the same ideas.

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20 hours ago, ShotgunForHire said:

There is free aim, against slippery bastards such as myself.

My dreams are for cattle rustling an entire herd slowly through the Western frontier with no trouble along the way. I want hundreds of intricate solo assassination missions close to Hitman agent 47 games. I want the special snake oil to work. I need bandoliers for more 12ga ammunition.  We need a couple thousand rare encounters. I want single player stories with or without friends. Brothels. Poker. Liar's dice. GUN DUELS at high noon. Thieve's Landing to develop.

Reminicent of the Wild Wasteland perk in New Vegas, we are hanged to enter the world of Old West horror for Undead Nightmare Online next Halloween with a Back To The Future 3 type DLC in a futuristic New Austin with fully customizable spaceships so I can be a Space Pirate with a full auto suppressed shotgun, cybernetics, and a Harley-Davidson. I want to kill zombies and aliens and chupacabras with Arthur Morgan at our side, I want to randomly take my binoculars out to find a hungry coyote forever chase a roadrunner, and our soul sold to the devil for cheap. Giant monster Rattlesnakes for a final boss. Give me the dark horse, not a gold dishonorable buckle. At least give us bad men makeshift iron chestplates. To return back like nothing happened, we simply crawl out of a grave.

I want a map based on the real life Outlaw Trail. A kingdom for bandits. Custom NPC companions that watch our back. Elaborate bank and train robberies where the escape is planned better than the heists, like fresh horses hitched to evade capture. I want to feel like the villain that I am, the game already makes me feel like this, but I want it magnified times eternity. Call this the Black Hat DLC, where the hogtied victim splatters on the train tracks like in RDR1. 

I want a Sisika Prison DLC, where low honor characters do time. Stripped of our firepower. With only Shanks and fists. Ultimately trying to escape.

Who knows, maybe one day own a ranch and do boring cowboy chores.

 I want to own the slaughterhouse outside Saint Denis, so I can sit in the office and watch and hear the suffering of pigs and cattle. I want to sell humans for meat at Butcher's Creek because we all know they're cannibals. 

 I want a Spaghetti Western DLC with the score done by Ennio Morricone before he passes. Directed by Clint Eastwood.

Expand hunting out to set TRAPS, for animals and humans. More paid killing tracking missions. And for STEALTH to be a goddamn option.

Harmonica emotes so we can hum our own haunting tunes, thinking of revenge. 

More RPG elements like Fallout New Vegas and no more pvp competitive horse manure. Free roam is the only way I'll play. More FREEDOM. Like the smoking animation to last awhile or while idling. Or pissing in the outhouse or hell, baths, fishing on boats WTF. People want more realism to escape reality. 

Open up the interiors like churches, restaurants, casinos..... Jobs, jobs, jobs. Like the pony express, bartending or moonshine distilleries, stagecoaches, gunsmiths, undertakers, coal mining, bounty hunters, preachers, oil barons, big cattle, bullriding, circus freak, the army, housewives or prostitutes for women lol, sheriffs for "honorable" players. Or to finish the railroads towards the Pacific. With everything being an option and depending on our honor level.

I personally want Filipino martial arts for my character since it was around at the time and a southeast Asian prahu pirate ship. More personal customization to attempt to make every player you meet a unique character themselves. 

The ability to make a campfire and small tent anywhere on the goddamn map.

The Old West was the origin of North America's deep love of guns and the final days where the mode of transport breathed and crapped all over the place. The potential here is a limitless goldmine. I'll be playing this forever even after Cyberpunk 2077 and Outer Worlds releases.

"High" honor and low honor players need completely different pathways, experiences, rewards, and consequences. The world around us and the NPC's should act accordingly. 

AND NO MORE TIME LIMITS. I ride into town slow and walk through saloon doors swinging.

 

 

............dude. How much caffeine did you drink prior to writing this? I mean, can you see noise now? Seriously though, this made me crack up. I really would like to have the option to set up a small camp anywhere on the map, makes it feel more real to me. They also could add a camper  wagon since that's what people slept in back then anyways. They can shelf the war wagon for all I care. lol

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4 minutes ago, BropolloCreed79 said:

Like you wouldn't roll into Van Horn with a posse mounted in your war wagon just laying waste to the town...

Well, maybe......but definitely not Van Horn. Annesburg is a different story though, those people need an excuse to get out of that miserable  town.

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I like the idea of having a general hardcore server. One that requires you to be good at aiming as well as surviving. Make the animals smarter and have them do more damage. Allow players to easily get sick if they don't treat wounds. Stuff like that. 

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2 hours ago, madfretter said:

Well, maybe......but definitely not Van Horn. Annesburg is a different story though, those people need an excuse to get out of that miserable  town.

Would love to see factions in areas like thieves landing have their fence available to you if your honor is low enough or high honor allows you to bribe Gray Deputies and follow you maybe. 

Low honor gets a butcher at the murfree/skinner camp etc. That would make the map really interesting in new ways. Honor would matter. Just adding little faction based mercenaries would be really cool. 

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43 minutes ago, Born Vigorous said:

Would love to see factions in areas like thieves landing have their fence available to you if your honor is low enough or high honor allows you to bribe Gray Deputies and follow you maybe. 

Low honor gets a butcher at the murfree/skinner camp etc. That would make the map really interesting in new ways. Honor would matter. Just adding little faction based mercenaries would be really cool. 

I really like the idea of butchers being based off of the honor system. High honor could get you more butchers with better locations, where low honor would get you butchers that say, maybe won't buy all the items you sell and are further away from towns. 

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3 minutes ago, madfretter said:

I really like the idea of butchers being based off of the honor system. High honor could get you more butchers with better locations, where low honor would get you butchers that say, maybe won't buy all the items you sell and are further away from towns. 

Right. Or honor for anything. Fence, gunsmith, Murfree Trapper? Missions. The point being that either high or low honor earns you new content and restricts others without messing things up too much. 

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