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At this point, it's almost irrelevant, because I spent two hours trying to get online last night and being error-coded into oblivion, sometimes, with two separate error codes/messages in the same attempt. Zero issues with other games. When Friday the 13th: The Game has a more consistent online matchmaking system than you do, you're doing it wrong.

If you are playing on PS4 and get griefed, when you respawn immediately crouch so that your griefer cannot see you. Pull up the player list with your left directional button. Locate the griefer on the list and click on them. Choose the option to see their PSN profile. Once there, choose the "..." option at the right and click on "Block". Log out and log back into the game. You will never see that player ever again. I did that on the first two days of playing. I blocked about 10 people. Now I am on servers without any di*ks, I have been playing all day today -- everyone is cool. The PvP griefers are a tiny asinine minority. At least so far, until R* puts in a more concrete way to deal with them like private lobbies, this method at least eliminates the griefers after one event with you. Like I said, after a couple of days and about 10 griefers getting blocked, I've been able to play peacefully all day today without anyone causing me any problems. I've had plenty of folks in my vicinity, but since I've been blocking the "must kill evah thing ah see" crowd, all of my fellow players have been peaceful and considerate.

I made a suggestion to R* that we be able to wear our vests unbuttoned open like a lot of the famous movie cowboys such as John Wayne or James Arness as Marshal Dillon anyone else down for that??

I hadn't done anything with other players, so I decided to check out the "Posse Up" option, and got thrown into a random group. Grabbed my headset and hoped for the best, not expecting much. I must have gotten lucky, because it turned out to be a great group, all friendly and on-mic. We did some story and stranger missions, got into a few shoot-outs, and swapped war stories for a few hours. Made some new Xbox friends, and had an overall great time. Just posting for those who don't have any friends who regularly play, and who don't expect much from randos. Go ahead and jump in... you never know!

Pics or it didn't happen.

My new policy is to largely ignore the grind and play for fun. Easier to say than do, though. Sure, I'll still hunt and sell etc - but only so long as it is fun. I'll hunt for a bit, fish for a bit, then do something else. I wont keep pace with the dedicated farmers and grinders, but so what? So long as i play enough to just about make sure I'm not totally over-powered in the death matches I'll cool with it. Glitches are tempting, but if boring, why bother? It's not so much a moral issue for me, as just a I want to play to have fun issue.

Theres no real easy or quick way to make money afaik. It's very grindy. But given the level locks, and that you only really need a very few items to get the most out of the game, it's probably better to just play and have fun and get money 'naturally'. I suspect that if you try and do hour after hour of grinding (whether hunting endless birds, or fishing salmon, or whatever) you'll get bored pretty quick. What do you really need: horse, varmint rifle, bow, fishing rod, shotgun. And if you have UE you already have 3 of those.

Last night a friend and I was out hunting by Fort Mercer. Having some fun and at one point we are chasing a deer and we chase it over a hill. As we go after there was another player and he immediately shoots and kills my friend with one shot. I hit him with a couple of shots to the head and claim our deer. My friend arrives and the other player shows back up and starts shooting at us again. We dispose of him quick cause we was ready for him. We head into Fort Mercer planning on this to blow over so we can get back to hunting. The players start coming in one at a time trying to get us. Each time we kill them and then the next and so forth. Before we know there ends up a dozen or so players outside trying to get to us. At this point I haven't died and my buddy has died only once. Others had died several times, location and cover and help a lot. So why are trying to figure out a plan on how to get out of this, some of them start fighting outside. So we just ride out and leave them to it. We kept playing for about an hour after that and the action was pretty non-stop there the whole time. I don't even know if they ever realized we even left. hahahaha

Co-worker and I were discussing this, I thought it was pretty interesting. Going off the timeline of RDR happening in 1911, and RDR2 about 12 years previous puts RDR2 in 1899. Here's what else was happening in America, and around the world at the time. US- William McKinley was president Queens & Staten Island merge with NYC Peace treaty from the Spanish-American war is ratified Great Blizzard happened in February, practically destroying Florida's citrus industry Mount Rainer National Park is established in Washington State Harriman starts the Alaska Expedition New Richmond, Wisconsin decimated by a tornado, 117 dead, over 200 others injured. Henry Bliss is the first automotive fatality in September, in NYC. Struck by an electic powered taxi, crushing his head and chest, as he exited a street car. Gunslinger and outlaw activity elsewhere in the wild west - Unforunately some of the more famous outlaws and gunslingers were dead by this time. But there were a few still raising hell along with Dutch's gang Wild Bill Hickok 1837-1876 Billy the Kid 1859-1881 John Wesley Hardin 1853 - 1895 Wyatt Earp 1848-1929 - Earp was mostly retired and living in San Francisco at the time of RDR2, (OK Corral happened in 1881) he was mostly an investor, investing in mines in Idaho and Colorado, and a consultant for silent cowboy movies, he was hired as a bounty hunter by LAPD in 1910 as his last official police position Butch Cassidy 1866 - 1908 - Butch was still active during the time of RDR2. He was imprissoned in 1894, and when he was released about 18 months later in 1896, he formed the Wild Bunch gang. They robbed the Union Pacific Overland Flyer in Wyoming June 1899. He tried to get Utah to give him amnesty when Utah became a state in 1896 but was declined. He then robbed another Union Pacific train in 1900, also in Wyoming. Butch then fled to South America in 1901, where he was believed to have robbed a bank in Argentina's Rio Gallegos. His death is uncertain, following a shootout with three soldiers of the Bolivian Army and local law it's believed Butch shot his partner Longabaugh in the forehead to put him out of his misery (they had numerous gunshot wounds to the lower body) before shooting himself in the temple. Doc Holliday 1851-1887 Kid Curry (Harvey Logan, a member of Butch Cassidy's Wild Bunch) 1867 - 1904 Elsewhere in the world - Australian colony leaders met to discuss creating a confederation and Canberra was named the capital of Australia. Also in Australia, Cyclon Mahina landed in Queensland, killing over 300. Boer War began in South Africa Finland's resistance to Russian tsar rule starts Terrorism (as we call it now) started in China, technically they're nationalists dubbed Boxers. Slogan Protect the country and Destroy the foreigner was shown in many streets. Majority were religious fanatics that feared the christian movement. Chinese gov. backed them. And, of course, it's the end of the 19th century.

Sounds good to me although I'd say leave them lit up for a few minutes . .....or maybe within a certain perimeter from where the offense occurred forcing them to leave the area or prepare to defend themselves. With the bounty you mentioned of course. What about allowing one posse to play the part of marshalls that can perhaps spawn in to the region where an offense takes place? ....but knowing trolls, they'll likely infiltrate that mechanic and it would backfire.

I simply don't enjoy being a walking billboard for a some company. If you think about it, it's the greatest con ever conceived: a clothing or apparel company has tricked consumers into PAYING THEM for the opportunity to wear conspicuously branded clothing and advertising said company or product. I'm as big of a W**** as there is, but I need to GET PAID if I'm going to sell a piece of my body, let alone my soul. If some superstar athlete/entertainer/performer wants to be paid to push a product, I don't judge them one bit. But to me, it's ludicrous that we, as consumers, pay top dollar for branded/badged clothing and accessories. I'm a good 6'4", and it's impossible for me to find pants that have a reasonable waist size (not everyone over 6' tall has a 40-in waist) matched to a proper inseam. I don't care if the pants are made by children's hands in a Malaysian sweatshop by Jacobean Mugatu, if it fits and I can hid the badge with a belt or remove it myself, I'm buying it. Unless they're yellow. I'll tolerate a lot of things, but yellow clothing isn't one of them. This isn't Zorro, the Gay Blade, this is real life, dammit. And yes, ZTGB is a real film:

In a PvEvP Enviroment, not all players are wanting to PvP. Yet they are on the map for all to see and nowhere to go and hide. Think we all know not all PvP players are actually looking for PvP. They want easy kills and then run away till you get tired of chasing them.

That is why I am still in Chapter 3 and doing as many of the side tasks as I can. Everytime I go to camp Dutch is in his tent," Arthur, we need to talk!" and I just walk on by.

Another good tip I've just discovered, small alligator skins sell for the same price as large ones ($3.50) but with the small ones you can stack under large carcasses

Ah, the wonders of Beta. I've always been dubious as to the way the "Wanted" system worked in both the story and online. Most of the time, it makes sense, but the definitely not random confluence of events I've experienced definitely makes for an inconsistent gaming experience at best, and is borderline unplayable at worst. It reminds me of the old "Rogue Agent" system in The Division. Experienced players/trolls would intentionally jump into the line of fire of a scoped player just to get nicked enough to have the unaware player labeled as "Rogue"--targeted on everyone's minimap, and turning them into a target. Realistically, that's how RDR2O should probably function: no minimap blips unless you have line-of-sight on another player, you hear gunfire (similar to the white blips in story mode), or they're Wanted for killing another player. That would do a lot to discourage senseless killing of other players; knowing you had a target on your back and stuck out like a sore thumb. And to remove it should cost Gold, unless you're killed. Maybe offer gold rewards in exchange for killing or turning in a Wanted player. Sure, it could be exploited to farm gold, but there could also be a cooldown period of 24 hours. After the first time a player is killed or captured after being Wanted, there isn't a gold reward for turning them in for another 24 hours. this would limit exploiting/farming.

I was bored hunting and went to rob the train as it passed though Bacchus Station. Not a good idea, well for the horse anyway. Stupid horse followed along side the train like it always does, right off the edge of the cliff. So if you're going to rob the train and Bacchus, bring a horse you don't care about losing

Got myself to chapter 6. I think I'm at 71% now. I think I'm at about 7 days spent playing... It's pretty much all Ive done on the weekends lol I may get back to the challenges soon, but I wanted to get through more of the story before I got sucked into online play. I mostly need to work on hunting requests and exotics. Everything else is either done, or inaccessible right now. I feel like now that I don't need to kill cougars for pelts or challenges, they attack me all the time... The satchel has proven to be very helpful though, you'll appreciate having it when you choose to continue on. Hell, I cooked/crafted a bunch of stuff way back in chapter 3 and I still haven't had to do so again. It's great for passive income too (not that you really need money). Go kill sh*t for a while and before you know it you have a few hundred in just meat. I always skin things when I kill them. I've had too many animals rot because I got distracted.

One would think quitting triggers it...

Totally get that. I'd rather play with RL friends too, but none of my friends are playing RDR.

Sounds like we need to catch each other online. Go have some fun.

I dont mind limited MTs. You know, pay a few quid for some cool cosmetics or what not. Or even some cash for extra DLC content (I did buy UE after all). Or even to get things a little bit quicker than most. Fair enough. But paying a lot of real cash for major advantage weaponry, horses, equipment, or even for sole access to stuff, or to get stuff massively quicker than others ... Seems a bit tawdry imho. Still, businesses gonna business.

For you my friend, Rockstar can sell you just 10 golden nuggets for only $99.99. Now friend don't shake your head. You do this 100 times, then you my friend can be able to turn in all those golden nuggets for one useless digital artifact that is completely useless outside the game. hehehehe I hate those microtransactions.

This weekend, every group I was with. We would ride to go do something and ended up after a few minutes that stopped and we did other things. I noticed after hunting a certain area animal spawns would slow way down. So we traveled and hunted, I'm not high enough to fish yet. We did missions, killed bad people, killed bad animals, robbed bad businesses. Just in case you haven't noticed everything we did we cause we was the good guys and they was bad. The bounties was just fake news.

Whatever you do, I repeat Do Not Do With The Buffalo. Instead of killing them, you will just kick them. They don't seem to appreciate that much. Just saying for a friend, who did it twice.

Right we can wear boots under/over pants collars unbuttoned or buttoned shirt sleeves up or down so why can’t we wear our vests unbuttoned.. I just wanna do this.

Actually i turned into an idiot last night.. But it was not the intention. I was hunting ducks at the lake, and i see a red dot approaching. I ran up hil in some bushes, and i saw that he was now at the spot at the lake, where i was, he looked up to me with his gun drawn, and i shot him..... Poor guy was trying to kill the bear that 3 seconds later killed me. I feel so bad!!!!! 😱

Sorry. Yes, I read your whole post. Yes, I read that your gun disappeared. I've played two characters to above level 15 and never had that happen. At the end of the day though, you want exploits. If you don't like the way the game is, wait till it releases, don't play the beta. Oh and don't try to act high and mighty when you are sitting there saying "Hey guys, how do I cheat? But don't judge me, yo."

You restrict theirs or they restrict yours. PvP should be an option between at least players who both consent. It shouldn't be a player trying to do one thing while another decides to shoot them in the back, cause it is only fun for one of them.

@McLawDiz great points, I agree 100%. Everyone who responded had good points actually. Just to put in my two cents in addition to everyone else's suggestions .... (although some may have already been mentioned in this thread), my main concerns are... - Definitely get rid of the pink dots, maybe have an option to only see pink blips If those people are in your Posse or something. - Take the gamer ID logo hovering above my head. Again, maybe make it optional for those who want it, but I personally don't want to hide behind a rock when someone is chasing me down, and they know where I am because it says my username above my head. It's stupid get rid of it. Wouldn't it be nice to ride by someone, and not know if they were an NPC or not? - Stop moving my damn camp. I logged on yesterday, a million miles from my camp. It took me 20 minutes to get there, because I had to work my way around all those groups of three or four people who were evidently going to ambush me as the waypoint went right by them. As a result, I got literally 10 seconds away from arriving, and Cripps moved my Camp from Blackwater somewhere near the swamps. I don't need a babysitter. Let me move my camp where I want and when I want. - Bring in a better bounty system. If someone shoots you, put a hefty bounty on them, and make it available for other players to collect the bounty if they can get there before the law does. And if they don't have the money to pay it, implement a system where they have to spend a certain amount of time in jail or something . And maybe make it impossible for them to see you after you respawn for five minutes or something, so they can't just keep shooting you as soon as you respawn. - As several people mentioned in other posts as well, don't charge $1.50 for a can of beans and only give $1.00 or something for a gold wedding band. It doesn't make sense. Keep the same economy/prices as single player for buying and selling, I think that would be a big Improvement. - Have some missions that are available to do solo... I miss the original RDR where you could choose from a dozen or so gang hideouts and just go do them by yourself. Why are all the missions 2 to 4 players? Again, this is probably just a repeat of several other people's complaints. I have only put about 7 hours into online play, and I have not been shot yet... But I know it's coming. I've just been playing very conservatively, and sticking close to my camp and just doing some hunting and stuff nearby . I mean, what fun is that? Having to stay within 100 yards of your camp because of griefers? I have ridden by several players and just got very very lucky not being shot yet. I literally have not really had very much fun with this, because I'm just worried about getting ambushed. I've done two or three missions and got paid what I consider to be chump change. Not even worth the ammo I used. I know for a fact I have to join a posse which I'm looking for right now. These are just my main concerns... I have a ton of other ones that I won't list, just basic ones as already mentioned, like changing appearances and side missions and stuff would be a lot of fun. Hopefully Rockstar listen to the players opinions and take it into account. Until I find a posse, I don't know that I will be spending much time with the online. I have a feeling everything will be reset when beta is over and the full launch starts. Who knows? LOL

Oh and go on the defense and kill them first? Hmmm wow I would’ve never thought of that! What a great idea cuz you can totally kill 3 guys and get to the mission start point before they respawn and come back! Wow I must be an idiot for not thinking of that before! Why don’t you try it and come back and tell me how it works out for you. Id bet money you get 2 of 3 down and then those will have respawned by time you get the 3rd down then your in the same predicament that you were before you started. And MAYBE I’m bored with single player. I have a million dollars and nothing else to buy or unlock so I’m sorry I enjoy the idea of creating a character and actually having sh*t to work for and unlock now! But hey guys I guess all of us that are like me and hate trolls have to stop playing cuz this dudes obviously from R* and has all the answers and he says not to play the game anymore if we don’t like the idiots that aren’t even playing right.

I like it, a set of missions that go together with varying checkpoints/goals towards the end goal. Mentor has to do X, Y, and z, Protoge has to do A, B, and C but he has to do A before the Mentor can do X, then wait until Y to do his B point, etc.

Not everyone is grinding/farming/enjoying in RDO the same way, the one I've been using most is the quick match for Story Missions. To make the most of these, we need to do them fast and have no deaths/restarts. Thought I'd share some of the things I discovered to make the missions go quicker and more easily, and if any of you have other tips, please share them. I don't remember the mission names, so will do my best to describe what happens in the mission. 1. In the mission at Fort Wallace, to kill the leader and destroy the ammo dumps, you can shoot the leader through the window that's just to the right of the door to the house he is in. I've seen countless people (myself included) open the door just to get blown away before they can even draw. For whatever reason, he does not shoot back through the window. Finally got killed through the window by the boss after doing this like 20 times, so he CAN kill you, guess he just usually hits the wall. 2. Most of the missions have you following an NPC to an unmarked location, the NPC is leading you to an ambush spot, or where all the fighting is happening. This one comes with experience, but once you know exactly where the NPC is leading you, you can usually head to the spot and trigger the next part while the NPC is still far away. This does not work when following Lee on foot, ambushing the different camp grounds, as you need to stay within a certain distance of him, or a couple other spots where you follow the NPC a short distance. You can still go to the location, but you will have to wait in these instances. 3. For the mission to hijack the train and head to the supply depot, as soon as the mission starts, head directly east to the train tracks, then follow them south towards Saint Denis, you will come across the train almost immediately and can hijack it without having to follow the NPC. I like to leave the driver alive, he does not fight back unless you come right up to him, and he'll drive for you so you can loot the train. Not sure what he does when reaching the supply depot, as someone always kills him and takes over by then. Also, when going to the room where the 4 targets are locked up, throwing a stick of dynamite in the room next door usually kills all 4 of them. You may have to throw it right next to the flimsy wall that separates the rooms to get them all. May not be the most cost effective, but it can be fun. And escaping on your horses is much faster than escaping on the train. Besides the train going slower, it also has to travel about 5 times as far to escape. 4. When attacking Fort Mercer in the Australian Armor (again, you can rush ahead to the camp next to Fort Mercer to trigger the cutscene), you can enter the Fort from some rocks that are climbing the wall around the corner to the left of the main entrance. Just pause at the top of the rocks before climbing over the wall to shoot the 2-3 NPCs that are usually there on the wall. And when fighting the armored boss at the end, throwing a stick of dynamite at his feet not only does massive damage, but also knocks him down for a few seconds. I like to use those few seconds to rush up to him and unleash with my weapon, usually he dies before he can get back on his feet. 5. When chasing Crawfish and his 3 friends so you can lasso them, as soon as you get on your horse to chase them, head straight ahead to the river and cross there. It's a path so it's really shallow and you can get across quickly. From there, just follow the river south towards the guys, they all eventually cross the river before the train tracks, and you should have no trouble catching up with them well before then. 6. When doing the mission where at the start, it tells you to go to Van Horn or the camp, you don't need to kill everybody, just the lieutenants. The lieutenant in Van Horn is in the (saloon?) which has a back door to it. He is right next to the door, so if you sneak around back, kick the door open, aim and shoot quick, nobody has a chance to react, you kill him and can run away without risking more damage or ammo. The one in the camp is next to the campfire towards the back, wearing a reddish jacket. Sneak over to where you have a good LoS on him, aim for the headshot, kill him and again, run away. Then again, after meeting back up with the marshall, if you know where to go, you can run ahead and trigger the combat.

What if you kill a player, you spawn on the map for say 10 seconds. That way Trolls will be lit up like a Christmas Tree all day long. Put a bounty on them where they get shot at by NPCs as well as PCs. Trolls don't like it when they can be seen and everyone is against them.

They out here eating babies. I'll gladly put down and skin a dingo. Just like you taught me Pa!

He really knows how to use that auto aim. He's obviously really talented.

Exactly. SO ridiculous. I grew up on in the Atari, ColecoVision and NES days, back when gaming was you know - about gaming. This generation wants everything and nothing is ever good enough. Utterly ridiculous. These entitled gamers now days care more about fancy graphics and effects than the actual game. Never happy, always complaining.

Did you read the previous posts? @BropolloCreed79 has it pretty narrowed down.

Doubtful. Quantity does not equal quality.

I actually brought the horse with in game cash for $130, I was just surprised that to insure even a horse of that standard it requires 5 gold. I only have 4.5 so far lol. Going have to ride careful for a while.

Does anyone else do 'circuits'? In order to create variety and stop it becoming too monotonous, I prefer to hunt in circuits that mix up hunting, herb collection, fishing, shack searching, bandit camp clearance, and I sometimes throw in the odd murder too, before selling stuff (and maybe ending with a saloon brawl). It's not as efficient, but more fun!

Yep ,have seen it today. You must go below half of honor and i get 2 extra missions. Total of 8 story missions now and 100%. When there are more missions i like to now. For ppl how have high honor just go to Saint Dennis and begin kill the ppl there (not online players just the AI ppl) i whas from top off Honor to just below half way in an half our that way.

I play solo. I have also decided to wear a white coat, to signify my non griefing intentions! And waste some money.

Well, some of us enjoy having to watch our backs...

You can also setup a campfire anywhere to craft those items yourself if you have meats for it. Just open your weapon wheel with LB/L1 and hit RB/R1 to switch to the page that has it on the bottom of the wheel. The coffee pot will be there as well.

Quality thread, and quality replies. I hope you guys are using Rockstar's feedback forms: https://www.rockstargames.com/reddeadredemption2/online/feedback Don't forget you can tailor the form to fit your suggestions, and you can submit as many as you like. This is the best way to have Rockstar consider these awesome ideas Please continue to discuss and formulate your ideas here too though! An idea I submitted that hasn't been mentioned in this thread here yet: - Hotels: Renting a room should be available in major towns/cities. This gives the player the ability to "rest" in a nice bed for a few seconds (60 tops) to fully restore AND fortify all (gold) cores for a day. You then can change clothes as well.

Ability to alter appearance More sellable items or places to sell stuff More shops in north map region More modes of transport - balloons, hand rail car, paddle steamers More things to do in camp - archery target, horseshoes, banjo, crafted decorations Crafting clothing options Shows on at theatre and movies More life in towns - hangings, brawls, domestic fights etc Ability to pat dogs

You have to eat twice a day and decent sized portions. After a few days, your weight will balance out. Eating a crap ton of food in one sitting won't suddenly make you gain weight. Just eat 2 meals with some extra for like 5 to 7 in-game days and you shouldn't be underweight anymore.

Whats the money exploit? Are you talking about the dirty sheep ****ers? If you are, thats not really a money exploit. Caught one of my friends doing this last night when i joined her game. The entire farm was filled with dead sheep. She didn't seem to to proud about it when i called her a dirty sheep ****er. lol

My point is that if you kill for no reason you are an asshole, as of now free roam killing grants you nothing that you cannot get from playing matches with other like minded players. therefore having "open range killing" go unchecked you are going to run people out of the game. the people who are going to get run off are the ones i want to play with. so if the game remains in its current state, a lot of good players will not be playing. as it is now you will have the world as death match like you want and you will be playing with the 5-10%(mostly under 18) who agree that it is fun, while the rest of us move on. thats how online games die. unfortunatly we need to say our opinions over and over because devs make games in thier own vision so it takes 10 of us for every one that is happy to make them see the issues. i have no issue with your requesting it not be changed. but when i am able i will rebutle every argument you make to hopefully change the game to be something fun for me to play. after all not one of us paid $60+ so that others could have fun while we play and do not.

Then stop complaining about those who want anything else than JUST PvP experience! - It sounds like the only reason you dont approve this, is because it takes the FUN away from you, since you sound alot like a griefer!