HuDawg

Ya.. that's why NXT is fun to watch. Its is more organic and has less writers and Vince hovering over them at all times. Then the NXT guys get called up to main shows and get buried or over exposed/over produced and heavily scripted.. and put into story lines that go no where. IMO wrestling is at its best when it taps in the current culture issues and cultural stereo types.. and let wrestlers be more creative. Instead, nowadays they are playing too safe with the main Shows and catering to much to sponsors while keeping them boxed in creatively..

What exactly is a griefer tho?. R* games are open world Free For Alls. A griefer seems to mean many different things to other people. To me, a hostile player is just a player to battle. And is always been a part of R* open world games. The real problem is lack of private lobbies.. Im a high level. I don't care.. I would prefer all weapons/ammo/items be locked behind money at the vert least.. Not rank. Rank is bullsh*t. Well why should a HIGH level get the OP weapons and the low level shouldn't. How does that make any sense. That's like being a kid joining a football league. And that kid ain't allowed to wear a Helmet, Shoes, Pads.. NOTHING till he spends a specific amount of hours getting his ass kicked. Then when the finally gets enough brain damage and broken bones, now he can wear the pads and helmet and shoes.. A Wild West open world action game without hostile players.. Is comparable to a my little pony adventure simulator. Would want anyone to reduce their numbers? Griefers are needed in this game. And so are private lobbies for players who don't like hostile player interactions. At the same time. Higher level griefers revel in the fact that low level players are easy pickings due to their lack of weapons and ability cards.

Im still a wrestling fan. But the current WWE product is too predictable, over produced and boring. And I don't watch it much anymore. Hopefully AEW lights a fire under WWE"s asses.

They do get something in return. Money and real game experience.. If they are on an even playing field. Obviously the person with more in game experience and a better grasp of game mechanics has the advantage. If you put the shoe on the other foot for second. What chance does a level 1 have against a high level griefer currently? Hes got no chance...

I always wonder why players feel as if rank means something. Like its not enough to have a better grasp of game mechanics and more REAL in game experience then new players. They need to have bigger advantage when it comes to in game weapons too. Making lower levels or newer players nothing but mindless fodder. I don't feel like its a slap in the face at all. Since locking things behind ranks is kind of bullsh*t. Im all for cosmetics being rank locked. But not weapons or abilities.. Not in a game that's mostly pvp.

Well, heres how I see it. Even if your friend is the most popular Red Dead Streamer. Its still shot in the dark trying to land in a lobby with him in it. I doubt they are constantly joining lobby after lobby trying to land in your lobby. Someone is helping them either by mistake or on purpose. Either by inviting them to come to the game OR by having one of them on their friends list. If what you're saying is true and they're constantly finding you so easily every time you guys stream. Id go with someone is inviting them to the game. Or someone is friends with one of them. (Maybe not even noticing) and they are just joining any time they want.

I do have faith.. Be it a small amount. Which is why I named this topic what it is.

This has nothing to do with adding 'new' material. Its the current material, lack of basics, and game direction that's the problem. Piling more stuff on a weak foundation isn't going to bring many players back.

Theres only 3 ways of properly handling things. 1.) Shoot them. 2.) Ride away from them. 3.) Join a new game Reporting them is not way of handling things. Unless they are actually cheating and attacking you in someway.

I really don't care if theres a 1000 of them all strapped to a chair with diapers on so they can hunt me 24/7. It wouldn't bother me in the slightest. I also think something else is going on here. If these guys are joining your games and finding you so easily.. You have a rat in your group.

Eww.. Narcotic sounds like a nasty word. Like trying to clump weed in with opiates. Hell naw.. Cannabis is legal where I live. Government sanctioned stores... Don't really need luck with it. Hell I don't think I've ever played any game sober since 1998.. To me, playing sober is crazzzie talk Maybe...

Meh.. To each their own. I work long days. I smoke extremely good high quality weed. So when I boot up and open world action game, I don't got time for that leveling sh*t. To me its just.. Like dangling a carrot in front of my face. I would rather punch the guy dangling the carrot and just take the damn thing instead of chasing the carrot all day long..

Lol.. Sorry dude, that's pretty funny. Wish I had people who would come after me like that.

This game was dumbed down the moment it went live. Auto aim, ability cards and gold bars are the actual dumbed down part. In a game with bulk of the content being pvp based. It makes zero sense to rank lock weapons/ammo. Its simply unfair.. And ranks is just a lame way of locking things for no reason. Since this is not a RPG/Looter type game. This is a wild west action game where we play as outlaws. People should not have to level up EARN the right to use weapons and ammo beyond buying the damn things.

Griefer to me means being out numbered and spawn killed into oblivion. Players killing you is not griefing.. This is a staple of R* open world online games. Total non issue. If they kill you once and leave its not griefing.. Its a cheap shot. Most cheap shots can be avoided by simply being aware OR killing them 1st. Sure sh*t happens, but sooo what? You just respawn.. You can't buy money.. But it makes no sense to even have rank locked weapons/ammo. Its unfair... Im not a fan of gold bars, but R* wants to make money. If I was an actual griefer.. All low levels would be nothing but fodder. My ability cards maxed out, all weapons, full of explosive rounds. No low level stands a chance..

A friend of mine whos level 61 just bought the explosive ammo papers. Hes already dealt with griefers with explosive ammo.. by using explosive ammo against them. Theres two sides to this.. And always has been. Griefers are only a real problem if they have access to weapons, items and ability cards that the players they attack don't have. Which is a problem for RD O pvp. The reality is there should be no rank unlocks. It should all be money/gold based. Ranks make no sense.. And, Explosive ammo should not be in RD O.. Among other things. But hey.. If you're just minding your business and bunch of REAL griefers (Not just random pests) decide to attack in a group, with slippery bastard, while on a horse, flip hats for head shots. Then Explosive ammo is the only real counter. A full inventory of explosive ammo is 40 kills... I've had explosive ammo for a while. Its basically pest control ammo. See another idiot on horse doing pony hat show.? BOOM! **** him, **** his hat and **** his horse all in one shot. And from my experience, they never really want to come back. Even if they have access to explosive ammo. But this is also the future. Basically everyone will be riding with explosive ammo soon.

To be fair, there shouldn't be any guns/ammo/ability cards locked behind levels. This borks the balance beyond belief and makes no sense. And the game is too boring to grind for most people. Also there's plenty of griefers out there with explosive ammo.. Hunting down low levels and knowing full well the low levels have no chance. But I can tell you this much. With more people having the explosive rounds now, this is what the future will soon look like. Imagine one year from now. RDR end game will be either hiding in passive 'defensive mode' OR getting blasted by exploding ammo with auto aim. Old Red Dead Online had explosive rifles that would appear during a special hideout.. With limited amounts of ammo, that would disappear when you died. If it was up to me.. There would be NO explosive ammo. But if R* is going to add this BS to the game, then all players should have access to it.

Im not sure what that's supposed to mean. When I think of a game being in beta. I think of massive weekly updates, balance changes and fixes. R* is dragging their feet on everything while drip feeding content and refusing to add simple features that the game really needs.

Its kind of funny because hes basically sort of describing Red Deads Main story line...

Not really sure what you're complaining about. But id shoot you in the ass if I heard this in free roam. Just sayin'.

That's because we are both right. And its R* being wrong in terms of a ONE lobby fits all type mindset. When money is involved R* always labels it as a top priority. Which is why im happy about the decaying player base, because that means less money for R*. Which will light a fire under R*s ass and hopefully lead to the RD O getting the proper handling it deserves.

Griefers are not the problem. They are the solution to the biggest problem.> Which is boredom. R* games are known for open world PVP and general ****ery... The best moments I've had in all R* open world games is fighting against assholes. Without them.. whats left to do in this game? Pick flowers? Kill defenseless animals? PVP game modes are not the same as free roam. Its much more personal type of battle.. Usually against 1 or a group of friends. The current PVP modes also have no real purpose then just shoving players into random pvp game modes..and turn into auto aim wack a mole. Free aim and private lobbies is not something that requires much effort on R* side. They've existed for over 10 years now. If all this game has to offer is ONE lobby type.. that caters to auto aim players that dislike PVP. Then I have no real reason to play this game.

Well its not a MMO tho.. Its an Action Adventure game. (its even labeled that) And the doom and gloom is real. Its got nothing to do with a bandwagon. I got more enjoyment out of the old Red Dead Multiplayer.. and it had less content. RD O beta player count peaked out in the 1st few months. Whats R* gonna add? New griefring counter measures, which simply means less fun for pvp players who like free roam FFA.. (Back to GTA O they go) More CO OP missions, that are easily chewed on with auto aim? (Boring) More pvp modes without any options to play what you want? No sense of TEAMS.. No sense of competition or competitive scene. (There goes another chunk of players) No private lobbies.. ( well theres another chunk of players) Lack of Hardcore/Friendly lobbies (Ding.. another chunk) That's whats chipping the player base away^...

I feel your pain.. I want this game to be better.. I love Red Dead. But this I why I made this topic. That maybe the decaying player base will give players what they need. Guess I still have a bit of faith left..

I understand.. But it really does come down to taste. R* used to give player options to suit said taste. RD O doesn't have any options. Which in turn drives players away. You should be able to play how you want.. Free of bullies. I should be able to play with bullies..because I love the battles and I love bullies.