HooverRAD Posted December 14, 2018 Posted December 14, 2018 People... Calm yer tits.. You don't actually have to buy any Gold, ya know. 2
Tenti Posted December 14, 2018 Posted December 14, 2018 I think you can use gold to jump levels (I used a couple to get the Rolling Rock early). Atm they are selling 25 bars for £4.50, which is nothing to may people. If that saves one 15-20 hours of repetitive farming I can see the attraction. I just hate paying again and again for the same game, so I shan't (probably) be buying any. But if you have the funds and no time then why not; it'd be pretty shoddy if R* didn't offer it. (my last word on this topic, cubs honour!)
Madrigalian Posted December 14, 2018 Posted December 14, 2018 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Tenti said: I think you can use gold to jump levels (I used a couple to get the Rolling Rock early). Atm they are selling 25 bars for £4.50, which is nothing to may people. If that saves one 15-20 hours of repetitive farming I can see the attraction. I just hate paying again and again for the same game, so I shan't (probably) be buying any. But if you have the funds and no time then why not; it'd be pretty shoddy if R* didn't offer it. (my last word on this topic, cubs honour!) So, this is the category I often fall into. I'm a working professional who puts in a lot of hours at work. I have kids and a wife who all have hobbies and commitments of their own that take time away from other things. While I have been an avid gamer for many years and have crushed many games with literally hundreds of hours grinding or campaigning to either advance or unlock new things, I simply do not have the time these days to make such a commitment to *any* game anymore. So for me, unless there is a micro-transaction option or some other means to mitigate some of that grind and commitment with any given game I generally avoid playing it. I do have friends in RDRO that have already far surpassed me in ranks simply because they have the time to grind them out. The micro-transactions provide me (theoretically) with at least the ability to "participate" with my friends even if only at a disadvantage for the lack of play time, ranks, and expertise. I do not support "Pay to Win" games but appreciate games that allow for a reasonable amount of "Pay to keep up" kind of model, for folks like me. Having said that, another great point that was brought up earlier is whether or not now is the time to invest real money into purchases for a game this early in development. For all the reasons discussed earlier, I am in agreement and do not plan to spend any real money on the game for some time, at least until I can reasonably know that the value of the investment is worth the cost. Edited December 14, 2018 by Madrigalian 3
Kean_1 Posted December 14, 2018 Posted December 14, 2018 2 hours ago, BropolloCreed79 said: It does if the sheeple throw money at it, even in this beta state, with no regard as to when RDO goes "gold" or "live". Plenty of folks with no concern about tossing money at the game will have zero qualms about buying gold now, despite the lack of definitive, declarative statements about progress being maintained. Personally, they won't see a dime from me. The current game isn't a finished product, and as such, I am unable to make an informed decision as to how to spend my money, and whether or not I"ll choose to continue to play RDO. It's close, but not where it needs to be to hold my interest. Investing now by purchasing gold is a fool's errand, imo: without knowing how things will end up when the final product is rolled out, I can't be assured my investment will be worth the effort. If I buy gold now to dress my character in the most resplendent finery from the local haberdashery, only to find RDO to be a lawless frontier littered with flying locomotives, and bored trust fund babies outfit with the latest and greatest items, then I'll never feel the urge to play online just to be griefed/trolled into oblivion, no matter how well I rock those overalls. Well sure, there are always going to be those that will "buy in" regardless even while a game is still in beta. My point being that it doesn't benefit R* to implement an MTX system and then drag their feet on providing more content and ways to keep people playing. .....and buying more gold bars. Even those they know will likely never purchase MTXs still play a role and they need to keep people interested. R* literally as dominated the GaaS model with GTAV:O and I don't doubt that they will as well with RDO. .....but they didn't (and won't do it again) with a lackadaisical attitude in their progress. I know I won't likely buy gold bars in RDO but I can appreciate their value even for someone like me who doesn't use them. Hell, if it wasn't for the continuing content, freebies, etc. that Shark Cards make possible in GTA, I would have deleted that game from my HDD long ago.
Kean_1 Posted December 14, 2018 Posted December 14, 2018 fyi.... A little more info on the gold bar purchases for those who might be interested in buying them:
HooverRAD Posted December 14, 2018 Posted December 14, 2018 10 minutes ago, Kean_1 said: fyi.... A little more info on the gold bar purchases for those who might be interested in buying them: That doesn't sound too appealing to the person that just forked over like £180.
Kean_1 Posted December 14, 2018 Posted December 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, HooverRAD said: That doesn't sound too appealing to the person that just forked over like £180. Well, as far as I can tell, they currently only sell 350 gold bars at a time for $99 USD. If you bought two stacks of those, you would have to wait until your balance was 150 GB before the next stack of 350 GB would be transferred into your account.
HooverRAD Posted December 14, 2018 Posted December 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Kean_1 said: Well, as far as I can tell, they currently only sell 350 gold bars at a time for $99 USD. If you bought two stacks of those, you would have to wait until your balance was 150 GB before the next stack of 350 GB would be transferred into your account. I can understand why they're doing it... Space issues and whatnot.. All I'm saying is people probably won't be happy about shelling out, and not receiving their purchase straight away.
Kean_1 Posted December 14, 2018 Posted December 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, HooverRAD said: I can understand why they're doing it... Space issues and whatnot.. All I'm saying is people probably won't be happy about shelling out, and not receiving their purchase straight away. Most certainly.... The thought also crossed my mind (although I'm not familiar with what everything cost in the game) but what if something I wanted was 200 GB and I had a balance of say 175. That means I would have to spend GB on something else I might not want to make room for the GBs I already purchased.
Mpegforever Posted December 14, 2018 Posted December 14, 2018 5 hours ago, Tenti said: I don't get the negative comments about R* here. I bought the game for the story. To my mind it is a masterpiece and worth every penny. RDO is an added bonus. R* have not tried to charge a fee to play, there is no Annual Pass required. So what if they offer the option to short cut the need to farm money to buy the best kit. In this game it doesn't make a heap of difference anyway. I shan't be purchasing gold bars anytime soon, but more than happy for R* to take the money. Also, they need to test the transactions work in Beta before full roll-out. Agree. I think they should advertise much more that this is a BETA and at the same time ask for comments, each time Online is launched. If they had just 10% of feedback of every message of RDR2 forum on the Net, well, they'd have to read for months.
NewsBot Posted December 14, 2018 Posted December 14, 2018 Rockstar Games has begun selling gold bars for Red Dead Online. Now that microtransactions have entered the game, it's certain that Rockstar won't be wiping progress once the beta is over, which lines up with what they've stated previously. With the microtransaction system in place, we now see just what kind of value gold bars really have. Most players are likely interested in the prices these packs cost. These prices give us the baseline to which we can compare the data seen in this economy overview, which tells us how much playtime is required to earn gold and how much gold items cost. The prices of the microtransactions are as follows: 25 Gold Bars (One Time Special) - $4,99 25 Gold Bars – $9.99 55 Gold Bars = $19.99 150 Gold Bars – $49.99 245 Gold Bars – $74.99 350 Gold Bars – $99.99 Now, if we refer back to that guide, we'll remember that 1 gold bar can be earned after 2 hours of grinding. Basically, an hour of your life is valued at $0.2 in Red Dead Online's economy when looking at the standard 25 Gold Bar pack. The 350 Gold Bar pack places even less value on your time. We know that the total cost of everything in Red Dead Online amounts to 2,134 gold bars right now - this will undoubtedly increase as DLC adds new items - which, based on these prices, is about $620. That's a pretty crazy number considering this isn't a freemium title, but a paid AAA game. Every player can purchase a one-time pack of 25 gold bars on a discount at $5 instead of $10, however, you can't repeat this and are stuck with the full price afterward. This is likely a way to rope in players with an enticing offer, and once the ice is broken, they're more likely to buy that $10 pack. Criticism has been raised against the current state of Red Dead Online's economy by the player base seeing as it takes unreasonable amounts of time to actually earn in-game currency. Seen by many as a deliberate tactic to make the purchase of microtransactions the only realistic way to acquire items, the move is considered ill-fitting for a paid game. Rockstar has promised to readjust the in-game economy. We'll see how things turn out when final release rolls around. The post Red Dead Online Microtransctions Now Available appeared first on RDR2.org. Read the full story
BropolloCreed79 Posted December 15, 2018 Posted December 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Kean_1 said: fyi.... A little more info on the gold bar purchases for those who might be interested in buying them:
Tenti Posted December 15, 2018 Posted December 15, 2018 Well, there was a "Special Offer" of 25gb for £4.49 last night. As I wasn't going out drinking beer, I decided "Why not?" When I logged on I got a messgae saying I'd been gifted 15gb. I don't know if everyone got gifted the bars, but I had 45gb. So I bought a Lancaster rifle for 14gb. I now have enough for a Volcanic when I get the level and don't need anything else really. It seems that us "Early Adopters" are being given a major advantage during Beta. I guess I could lose the bars if the do a character reset, but I can live with losing a fiver, but I'm certain I'd get it back if they did reset characters,
Tenti Posted December 15, 2018 Posted December 15, 2018 Well, they had an offer of 25gb for £4.49, then I got an extra 15gb gifted (Because I bought used store?) so 40gb for a fiver? Bargain..its saved me 20+ hrs of grinding and now I have nothing to spend them on. Works for me. And I look very nice with my nice new Lancaster Repeater and 30+gb in the bank.
Minimoni Posted December 15, 2018 Posted December 15, 2018 On 12/14/2018 at 4:54 PM, Poggy said: It seems RDO store has now begun. £89.99 for 350 gold bars What a bargain...
Mpegforever Posted December 15, 2018 Posted December 15, 2018 On 12/14/2018 at 4:54 PM, Poggy said: It seems RDO store has now begun. £89.99 for 350 gold bars Still laughing....LOL....not even as I gift I'd ask for that. Crazy. 1
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