lumper Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 (edited) So I just sent a "suggestion" to Rockstar about the two best saddles in the game. The beaver roping saddle and the Panther trail saddle. Both have the best attributes, they swap the health and stamina drain rates otherwise have the same attributes and are the best in the Online game. the issue is, one costs cash, the other gold only. I hate that but ok, I saved and paid the 18 Gold bars to buy it. I own both. The issue I have with it is that you dont get any options for color. I would appreciate a few choices, so if I want to use it on my grey and white/black Trotter I can get one to match and if I have the dark brown Turk I can get one that matches it. The beaver roping saddle for example looks great on the Dark brown Turk, but the Panther trail saddle looks bad, it is too light of a brown and just doesnt compliment the horse at all. My other Trotter is light brown so all three of my main horses are very different in their looks, and I would buy more than one of these despite the high gold only cost, IF they had color options. As it is I use it for the stats only because I hate the color, I prefer the Beaver saddle as it looks great on my dark brown horse. But it is hard to ignore the stamina drain rate on the Panther saddle, so... I run it but it makes me switch horses to my light brown Trotter. The Trotter is a great horse, but again, I want to have a saddle for each horse that compliments its looks. If you agree with this please send Rockstar a note asking them for color options on the expensive "special" saddles, we have to earn those and then pay with gold only I want options. If enough people mention it, maybe they will add options. Remidn them it is gold only, so more options means more sales and more gold sold to players, so for Rockstar a win, and for the players who want it, a win, so why not? hit this link, log in to social club and let them know. https://www.rockstargames.com/reddeadonline/feedback?redirect_lang=en_us Edited June 8, 2019 by lumper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traks1 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 (edited) The new king of saddles for stats is that one I can't pronounce that looks to be the equivalent, taste wise, to buying a chrome Adder in GTA. Pass. Edited June 9, 2019 by Traks1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumper Posted June 9, 2019 Author Share Posted June 9, 2019 (edited) On 6/9/2019 at 7:12 AM, Traks1 said: The new king of saddles for stats is that one I can't pronounce that looks to be the equivalent, taste wise, to buying a chrome Adder in GTA. Pass. Which saddle are you talking about, what are the stats? as far as I know, nothing beats the Panther trail saddle, you cant get it until level 94 I think, it has -26/-22-20 and - 50% something like that, in the 26% and 22% stamina and health drain rates. The only one that comes close it the Beaver roping saddle which has the exact same numbers but they reverse the health and stamina drain rates and the Beaver is cash and the Panther is gold only. IF there is a better saddle I want to know, I have not seen one, but I have managed to miss simple things before especially with saddles so please let me know, seriously I would love to see a better saddle, I will buy it right now. I think the one you are talking about is the decorative one that has color options, but it doesnt come anywhere near the ones I mentioned in stats, if we are taking about the same saddles, those decorative ones are ok when you are low level and cant get a better saddle but after level 90 the ones I mentioned above as far as I know rule, Edited June 14, 2019 by Kean_1 combined consecutive posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Hickok_1837 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 I agree. Im using the panther one on my black white MFT and it doesnt look too good. I use it for stats tho its obvious why. I would love to be able to change the color of it. Good suggestion ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaderspupil Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 14 hours ago, lumper said: Which saddle are you talking about, what are the stats? as far as I know, nothing beats the Panther trail saddle, you cant get it until level 94 I think, it has -26/-22-20 and - 50% something like that, in the 26% and 22% stamina and health drain rates. The only one that comes close it the Beaver roping saddle which has the exact same numbers but they reverse the health and stamina drain rates and the Beaver is cash and the Panther is gold only. IF there is a better saddle I want to know, I have not seen one, but I have managed to miss simple things before especially with saddles so please let me know, seriously I would love to see a better saddle, I will buy it right now. That's not the beaver saddle that's the flip flop of the panther one, it's the rattlesnake vaquero. I have 3 horses, a black Arabian with the rattlesnake saddle, a golden turkoman with the panther saddle and a silver dappled MFT with another panther saddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traks1 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Nacogdoches it's called. Looks like someone barfed on your horse but has exemplarary stats I think. Also available at much lower rank than other top stat saddles. Don't know or care enough to see if it's the new top dog or not as I wouldn't want to embarrass my hoss by putting that eyesore on him even if it meant he could then fly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNMNetTech Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 23 minutes ago, Traks1 said: Nacogdoches it's called. Looks like someone barfed on your horse but has exemplarary stats I think. Also available at much lower rank than other top stat saddles. Don't know or care enough to see if it's the new top dog or not as I wouldn't want to embarrass my hoss by putting that eyesore on him even if it meant he could then fly. I believe you can customize the colors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traks1 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Sure you can. Custard/cabbage/carrot or curry vom shades and more are all available. A "subtle" not able to be seen from space design is sadly not an option though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumper Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) The Definiteive saddle stats guide As you will see, the three best saddles are below, and one for comaprison that is available at lower levels, so if you can not yet get one of the three I listed, you can see about the Nocogdoches possibly. Best saddles in the game are as follows: Saddle stats: PANTHER TRAIL SADDLE Stamina core drain -26% Health core drain -20% stamina regen rate +24% stamina drain rate -50% XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX BEAVER ROPING SADDLE Stamina core drain -20% Health core drain -26% stamina regen rate +24% stamina drain rate -50% xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx RATTLESNAKE VAQUERO SADDLE Stamina core drain -24% Health core drain -22% stamina regen rate +24% stamina drain rate -50% XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX NACOGDOCHES SADDLE Stamina regen rate +20% Stamina drain rate -35% Stamina core drain rate -18% health core drain rate -20% Nacogdoches Saddle These numbers include the stirrups for $144 added to the saddle for these stats. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx As you can see, the above examples are the highest stats and for comparison one of the more popular saddle choices for lower levels, the Nacogdoches. The beaver and Panther are very similar, and the two best saddles for stamina and health drains. Edited June 13, 2019 by lumper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumper Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) On 6/10/2019 at 9:35 AM, Vaderspupil said: That's not the beaver saddle that's the flip flop of the panther one, it's the rattlesnake vaquero. I have 3 horses, a black Arabian with the rattlesnake saddle, a golden turkoman with the panther saddle and a silver dappled MFT with another panther saddle. If you look above at the post I just made, you can see the actual stats, I took these from the game, It IS the Beaver saddle, I listed all three for you to see yourself. You said you have 3 horses and listed your saddles, the Beaver saddle is very similar, but it is better in health core drain, but not quite as good in Stamina drain, compared to the Rattlesnake saddle, BUT they are very very close, to one another, either saddle is good, BUT the Panther Trail saddle beats them both. Either way the beaver and panther saddles flip flop the stamina and health drain rates, otherwise they are the same , the Ratlesnake saddle is a little different, but still a decent saddle, but not the best and my point all along was just that these are the two best saddles and we should have more options for colors, even the rattlesnake saddle could use a few options. Edited June 11, 2019 by lumper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traks1 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Several Youtube videos suggest that Nacodouchebag saddle with hooded stirrups, in actual use, is "best" and according to general stats for acceleration and top speed uniquely adds a notch for each. Whether or not these bonus speed/accel stats actually work in practice is open to debate or testing (by someone else cos idc). So I think until definitive tests are done by people that have them all, one can't really say that the older models are the only ones you should be ultimately looking at. Just saying. More colour choices though across the board...yes please. How about a nice plain ol' brown leather one that doesn't make my hoss look like lady gaga on a bad night. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumper Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 (edited) Well, I have plenty of money and gold so.... Now, I would love to be wrong, and find out there is an even better saddle, that woudl be great!!! So for that reason alone, I will look into it. Ill go look it up, Ill load one up with all the best and let you know but I am already 100% confident the above list is accurate, those stats for special saddles include stirrups and stuff, you cant add them, but I will add stirrups to the other saddle and let you know exactly what the numbers are next time I log in. There is a reason one saddle is 900$ and one is 18 gold and the other is under $300. honestly I dont care, I am only trying to help people out with correct info, I too saw those videos and I thought I remembered them saying, if you arent that high of a level yet and cant get the higher end saddles, then this is a good alternative until you can, at least the three or four videos I saw on them said that regarding the Nocog..saddles. Otherwise I would have one, lol, trust me, I spend a lot of time online and in game and have the best of everything I can own, if there was a better saddle, I should have found it by now. Actually a month ago I was wrong in my saddle information and someone pointed it out which is what led me to look very carefully at them again, and that is why I am very confident now with this information. Ok, so Ill add to my other post above too but here it is. They are the same as earlier, I must have equipped the saddle with the stirrups before I did this last time. Nacogdoches Saddle Stamina reg rate +20% Stamina drain rate -35% stamina core drain rate -18% Health core drain rate -20% this is with the best stirrups you can get a horn all that stuff, I spent around 900 to equip this simply to show the stats as I wont use it dont need it., The best thing with the other saddles is the -50% stamina drain rate, my horse just goes and goes and goes. So, if you compare it to the others, although not a bad saddle, with stirrups, it still falls short and costs around the same, it is just that you can get this at a lower level. I think if you cant get a Beaver roping saddle, or a Rattlesnake or Panther saddle, then this is surely a good option. Edited June 14, 2019 by Kean_1 combined consecutive posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traks1 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) Did you "get" the extra +1 speed/accel stats to show up with the Nacog fitted? (That's a different question than do they actually work). If a boost to accel/speed did actually work as advertised online (and I have my doubts, overall hoss performance, top speed wise, seem all very similar to me) I would be more inclined to favour that stat since hoss n me tend to fast travel or casually amble around one particular area rather than long hikes that would benefit from the totl saddle buffs to stamina etc. Irrelevant really because as already menched, I wouldn't dare put that on my horse. She would never talk to me again🤪. Thanks for checking out the numbers though. I await your definitive Youtube tests for proof of each saddle doing what it is supposed to do with much anticipation 😉. Edited June 14, 2019 by Traks1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumper Posted June 14, 2019 Author Share Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, Traks1 said: Did you "get" the extra +1 speed/accel stats to show up with the Nacog fitted? (That's a different question than do they actually work). If a boost to accel/speed did actually work as advertised online (and I have my doubts, overall hoss performance, top speed wise, seem all very similar to me) I would be more inclined to favour that stat since hoss n me tend to fast travel or casually amble around one particular area rather than long hikes that would benefit from the totl saddle buffs to stamina etc. Irrelevant really because as already menched, I wouldn't dare put that on my horse. She would never talk to me again🤪. Thanks for checking out the numbers though. I await your definitive Youtube tests for proof of each saddle doing what it is supposed to do with much anticipation 😉. Ive gone as far as I am going to go I am 100% satisfied that these three saddles are the best over all, I prefer the beaver and panther saddles myself, my horse is very quick, very fast and doesnt suffer from any stamina or health drains worthy of any further changes. I dont know if things work as they should or not, what I do know, is that for a low level player that Nochadog...saddle is pretty darn good if you like those terrible colors, But once you exceed level 90 you can move up to one of the three mentioned, as those are going to offer the best stats for you and your horse. I only clarified because of someone contradicting my posts, I wanted to make it clear and obvious for anyone who actually does care what the stats are and let them make their own decisions. Beyond that I really dont care. When you show someone the facts and then cant say, oh ok, I didnt know that, but rather have to say, I Saw a video once,... I just throw my hands in the air and give up, lol. To each their own, do what you want, if you like to know what the stats are, then there ya go. So, To everyone reading this, what saddle are you using ? Edited June 14, 2019 by Kean_1 combined consecutive posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNMNetTech Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 I have the Panther saddle on my trotter. I have the Nacogdoches saddle on my Black Arabian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonastic Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 My opinion is just use whatever saddle with hooded stirrups and fastish horse you like the looks of. You won't notice a difference between your ride and players riding the horse + saddle combo with "teh best stats!!!". My Turk with not the best saddle gets me everywhere just as fast as anyone else and faster than most. The stamina bar is always full or near full until I L3 and it fills again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumper Posted June 18, 2019 Author Share Posted June 18, 2019 (edited) On 6/15/2019 at 1:24 PM, Miltonastic said: My opinion is just use whatever saddle with hooded stirrups and fastish horse you like the looks of. You won't notice a difference between your ride and players riding the horse + saddle combo with "teh best stats!!!". My Turk with not the best saddle gets me everywhere just as fast as anyone else and faster than most. The stamina bar is always full or near full until I L3 and it fills again. Well not true, I spend a lot of time grinding, and trust me you notice a difference when your drain rates are so stacked, I dont have to feed my horse anywhere near as often as I woudl with almost all the other saddles, there are about 4 or 5 saddles that are kind of similar then it drops off steeply and yes, there is a huge difference, it isnt just speed and quickness, it is the stamina and health but really mostly the stamina, without that saddle I have to feed my horse about 4x as often and it adds up and you have to pick carrots everywhere you find them, with the panther, ratttlesnake or beaver saddles it is cut way way down. When you get to a level where you can get one of them and you have the $$ so you dont mind buying something give it a try, there is a big difference I noticed it immediately There is a reason there are stats, level requirements and higher prices. You pay more and have to earn by xp but then the pay off is savings and less headaches Edited June 18, 2019 by lumper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonastic Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 12 hours ago, lumper said: Well not true, I spend a lot of time grinding, and trust me you notice a difference when your drain rates are so stacked, I dont have to feed my horse anywhere near as often as I woudl with almost all the other saddles, there are about 4 or 5 saddles that are kind of similar then it drops off steeply and yes, there is a huge difference, it isnt just speed and quickness, it is the stamina and health but really mostly the stamina, without that saddle I have to feed my horse about 4x as often and it adds up and you have to pick carrots everywhere you find them, with the panther, ratttlesnake or beaver saddles it is cut way way down. When you get to a level where you can get one of them and you have the $$ so you dont mind buying something give it a try, there is a big difference I noticed it immediately There is a reason there are stats, level requirements and higher prices. You pay more and have to earn by xp but then the pay off is savings and less headaches The difference between any of the special saddles with hooded stirrups is extremely negligible on any of the fastish horses. (MFT, Turk, Arabian, etc). But hey, if a minuscule difference that you won't ever notice is important to you or anyone else, then knock yourself out. In my opinion, and I prove it out every single time I play, you will not notice a difference in your game play if you don't spend all the gold and cash for the Black Arabian with the Nac saddle. Ride the fastish horse and special saddle with hooded stirrups that you like the look of. That's what is important. Trust me. It's kind of silly to me to ride around on something that isn't really what I prefer the look of just because of stats. I personally don't spend gold or money testing anything. If stats were that important to me, then I can be rest assured some numbercrunching YouTuber wannabe has already identified "Teh Best !Stats!!!1!!!. Plus, playing the stats game got old for me a very long time ago. This last saddle had a video comparing stats and identifying the best combo before I even logged in that day and saw the saddle for myself. If I would have bought them, I still wouldn't have been getting anywhere faster or with more stamina than any other fastish horse with special saddle w/ hooded stirrups combo. I advise all to save gold and money for other things. Unless you enjoy spending gold or cash mixing and matching horses and saddles of course, then by all means have fun! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kean_1 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 I have to agree with @Miltonastic. .....at least with my own experience too. I simply haven't found the differences to be dramatic enough to even warrant a change. Heck, I'm still riding around with my freebie Chestnut Arabian. I've never felt outmatched trying to evade or chase down targets, etc. I guess if I were into horse race events where perhaps every bit matters I might reconsider. ......but yeah, spend your money on what matters to you. I'd still like a Black Arabian though simply because it would complete my "look". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumper Posted June 18, 2019 Author Share Posted June 18, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kean_1 said: I have to agree with @Miltonastic. .....at least with my own experience too. I simply haven't found the differences to be dramatic enough to even warrant a change. Heck, I'm still riding around with my freebie Chestnut Arabian. I've never felt outmatched trying to evade or chase down targets, etc. I guess if I were into horse race events where perhaps every bit matters I might reconsider. ......but yeah, spend your money on what matters to you. I'd still like a Black Arabian though simply because it would complete my "look". I dont do races at all, I do extended sessions though, like 4 and 8 hour sessions of grrindign and in those I can see the difference. Also I have had both the Chestnut Arabian, and the thoroughbred, the Shire, and the trotters and turks so I have ridden them all, and I have had several saddles so it is my experience they do make a difference. If you havent tried them or havent owned them how can you decide if they make a difference? Anyway who really cares right? DO what you like and what makes you happy, if you dont see a reason to upgrade your saddles then dont do it. I just wanted to give that info to anyone who did want to know or try it or was thinking about buying the better saddles. If you are happy with your horse and saddle set up then more power to you, I agree, not worth it for you to make a change. I like to upgrade everything I can as I move through this game so as time goes by and more stuff becomes available and they tweak stuff, I am up to date, I have the best stuff I can get my hands on and hopefully have an advantage in ways that add up. To each his own and I respect your decision to do whatever you want to do in this game, not judging anyone or telling people what to do The main reason I got rid of my Arabians are people would smash into me killing my horse and I look silly on such a small horse. Try a shire lol they are massive, the Trotters and Turks and thoroughbreds I think are just right for my guy Edited June 18, 2019 by lumper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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