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Has there been a change to how pressing charges works? The past two days I've been killed by another player while I was in defensive mode and I only had the option to Parley and to respawn. I thought as long as I was in defensive mode and somebody attacked me then pressing charges was an option.

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Did you shoot back and hit them? 

I've noticed that if I'm riding along and, bam, I'm down from a headshot, I get the option to press charges. 

But if there's a bit of a fight beforehand and I cause damage to them before I'm killed, I don't get the option. 

Could be wrong. Just what I've noticed. 

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Yes, my experience is that you basically have to be a murder victim to get the option to press charges.  Given it doesn't achieve anything anyway, I just shoot the bar stewards deader than dead and don't bother with the legal stuff.

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If for some reason, the person who kills you took damage from you or from something else like 5 seconds before you die, you won't get the option. I have had a dude shoot me and be killed but right before I was shot, someone else was shooting at him. I think the game associates anyone in the area as being part of the conflict. 

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I was making a Trader local delivery last night, from Heartlands down to the one low down on the shoreline, down the grassy slope.  I had just got to the point where I could hear gunfire (bandits were attacking the dropoff), when another player appeared and lasso'd me off my wagon (despite being local apparently people can still do that).  He hogtied me, then shot me.  No 'press charges' or 'parlay' buttons.  I respawned, raced back to the wagon, could see him standing by it, he shot my hat off (thank you, Never Without One), I returned fire and shot him dead (he was lowish level, 27 IIRC, I had a Lichfield Repeater with high velocity ammo equipped), ordinarily I'd leave the wagon there to deal with the bandits but as this dude is out there I leap on and race it to the dropoff, but have to clear the bandits/protect the recipients to get my money. So I equip twin LeMats and get stuck in, then suddenly I'm dead again - dude is sniping me from a ridge with a Rolling Block.  I respawn, but have to continue the fight from behind cover to protect against the griefer (I don't think he can get my goods on a local run so I'm just sport at this point).  Fortunately I win, get my $500 (phew) and it's all okay.  But to be clear - I never got either press charges or parlay.  I'd have used both.  The system doesn't work, so protection is an illusion.  We're on our own, either solo or posse.  It's like the Wild West out there.

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22 minutes ago, CosmoKramer said:

@SimonTemplar 😮I always thought you were put in "semi-transparent" mode when doing a local delivery so players couldn't mess with you even if they tried? That sucks. People pulling this sort of sh*t should be forced to stay on the server until you say you are done with any retribution you see fit!

I like your mindset here. These cats start stuff , waste your time , jump server when they realize they are out of there league. They should have to face what's coming to them. Way too many glitches these grieves have discovered. No mercy !! 

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39 minutes ago, CosmoKramer said:

@SimonTemplar 😮I always thought you were put in "semi-transparent" mode when doing a local delivery so players couldn't mess with you even if they tried? 

You can remain defensive in local. And your wagon is not visible and advertised on the map, and players can't steal your goods. 

But.......

You're still out in free roam and people can take you out. 

I actually did that a few days back.  Saw a delivery wagon coming, shot the guy with an explosive. Killed the horse as well.  Saw the goods bags on the ground and went to pick them up but couldn't.  Realized then it was a local. 

He wasn't happy.  

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3 hours ago, Anteronoid said:

Wait, what... Really?! 😅

I know.  It's the shocking truth at the centre of this game.  You have been warned!

1 hour ago, CosmoKramer said:

@SimonTemplar 😮I always thought you were put in "semi-transparent" mode when doing a local delivery so players couldn't mess with you even if they tried? That sucks. People pulling this sort of sh*t should be forced to stay on the server until you say you are done with any retribution you see fit!

I thought that, too.  Almost a very expensive lesson - it does mean that local deliveries aren't as radically safer than distant deliveries as I had thought.  Indeed, I'd almost rather lose to the distant opponents;  at least they stand to gain and are engaged in actual gameplay.  This dude just wanted to ruin my day.  Given I had no horse with me so limited weaponry (repeater and two LeMats), he nearly managed it!

1 hour ago, Bucnation3139 said:

I like your mindset here. These cats start stuff , waste your time , jump server when they realize they are out of there league. They should have to face what's coming to them. Way too many glitches these grieves have discovered. No mercy !! 

Agreed.  By the time I had seen off the bandits and got my horse back the coward had skipped town.  Guess he realised that now that I had access to rifles, too, he would be up against someone who could shoot back and didn't fancy his chances.

1 hour ago, Freakshow9191 said:

You can remain defensive in local. And your wagon is not visible and advertised on the map, and players can't steal your goods. 

But.......

You're still out in free roam and people can take you out. 

I actually did that a few days back.  Saw a delivery wagon coming, shot the guy with an explosive. Killed the horse as well.  Saw the goods bags on the ground and went to pick them up but couldn't.  Realized then it was a local. 

He wasn't happy.  

It's like the Wild West out there!  Guy must have been fuming.  He'll get over it once he realises that the roles give guaranteed riches even with the odd moment like that.

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16 minutes ago, SimonTemplar said:

 

It's like the Wild West out there!  Guy must have been fuming.  He'll get over it once he realises that the roles give guaranteed riches even with the odd moment like that.

I would have helped him pick them up and run them in if I could have. 

I'll be a little more careful in the future. Didn't feel good about that one.  

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4 minutes ago, Freakshow9191 said:

I would have helped him pick them up and run them in if I could have.  

Would have been a beautiful moment.  I love helping random other players with whatever they're up to, reviving their horse or seeing off bandits or loading their hunting wagon.  I just spread the joy around the West.

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