[Rumor] Big RDR2 News Could Explain Lack of Updates

[Kean_1]

I'm not much for posting articles about speculation, etc. but given the lack of news these past few months, I figured, what the hell.   .....just take this all with a big grain of salt.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/gamerant.com/red-dead-redemption-2-ps5-xbox-remake-online-update/amp/

 

Big Red Dead Redemption 2 News Could Explain Lack of Online Updates
Red Dead Redemption Online players have been frustrated by the lack of updates, but the wait could hint at big Red Dead 2 news.

BY ANTHONY TAORMINA
1 DAY AGO

 

For a while now the Read Dead Redemption 2 community has maligned the lack of updates (both news and content) from developer Rockstar Games. It has been so long that many fans have begun making memes and jokes about the wait and whether Red Dead Redemption Online might ever get new content.

But while there has not been anything official from Rockstar Games, rumors and leaks suggest there might be a reason for the lack of Red Dead Online updates. And if these rumors are true, the waiting might be worth it.

 

Red Dead Remake
While nothing is confirmed, the strongest rumor is that a Red Dead Redemption remake is in the works for current-gen (and potentially next-gen platforms). There has been speculation that RDR might eventually come to PC for a long time, but that never happened. However, now it seems Rockstar is ready to give the fans what they want.

What makes this different than just a simple port or remake is that this will allegedly be added to Red Dead Redemption 2. The foundation for adding Red Dead 1 content into Red Dead 2 has been in the game since it launched, with players able to visit familiar landscapes from the prior game. When players first saw Mexico and a few other notable locations, the assumption was that they would eventually factor into Red Dead Online, but instead, they have gone relatively unused.

A remake of Red Dead Redemption would be a massive undertaking for Rockstar Games and is potentially what is keeping the Red Dead Online team so busy. If it is real, then the remake could also make up for the lack of meaningful updates to the game.

Red Dead 2 On PS5, Xbox Series X
Another possibility for the lack of Red Dead Online updates is a potential next-gen port for Red Dead Redemption 2. Rockstar Games has already confirmed that Grand Theft Auto 5 is making the leap to PS5 and Xbox Series X when the consoles launch holiday 2020, any many are wondering if Red Dead Redemption 2 will get the same treatment.

 

Granted, Grand Theft Auto 5 is one of the best-selling and most popular video games of all time, and even though Red Dead 2 was well-received and sold well, it pales in comparison. Still, if Rockstar plans to keep supporting Red Dead Online through future updates (whenever they release), then it would make sense that the game moves onto PS5 and Xbox Series X as well.

Like a hypothetical remake, next-gen ports would also occupy a lot of development time, as the studio tries to take advantage of the new consoles’ increased power. The hope is that these ports would be more than just the PC version running on new hardware, but even that would be an improvement for console.

Gamers could find out relatively soon if next-gen ports of Red Dead Redemption 2 are in the works at the Xbox Series X event in July. Much like Rockstar chose to reveal GTA 5 at the PS5 gameplay event, it could share the wealth by debuting RDR 2 during the Xbox stream.

Rockstar Games Could Announce Both
It’s also possible that both projects are in the works and are keeping Rockstar Games busy. Next-gen ports seem like a given but whether or not the rumors about a remake are true is up for debate. There is evidence to support both sides, including a product listing for three different Rockstar games (GTA 5, RDR 2, and the remake).

 

On the flip side, it’s also possible that Rockstar Games has simply dialed back its support for Red Dead Online. That would be the most disappointing outcome for fans and active players, but it wouldn’t be entirely unexpected. Red Dead Redemption 2 released almost two years ago and at some point, developers need to move onto new projects.

[Enoch]

One could only hope. There’s massive potential in RDO, some of which has been hinted by R* themselves, and it would be a colossal waste and disappointment if they just let the game fall by the wayside. And they would deserve every bit of ire that would come their way if they suddenly dropped support for the game without informing their playerbase. 

[NF85]

Honestly at this point i do hope they abandon the current gen.

The game is so full of day1 buggs and more buggs arrive per major update then they are fixing, meaning the whole coding of the game needs a repair from the ground up.

They can do that with fresh new hardware and software.

 

But thing is, even if they combine red1 and red2, how will that even be possible as there is what, 15 years of timegap?

And honestly i dont want red1 as a freebie gift for buying red 2 for ps5, i finished that game on the ps3!, i have no reasons to play it again. They have to do better then that.

Redo red dead revolver and add it as a freebe gift on the next gen version of red2 and i might be tempted, as playing that ps2 game on a ps4 is a horrible experience and it has been so long time ago that i played it on ps2, i have forgotten the story of the game completely.

[HuDawg]

I would love a remastered version of Red Dead Redemption.  Hell, most of R* games from 2000-2010 would be great for for remasters, they actually made ALOT of games.  (which they don't seem to do anymore)

 

Sadly theres a lot of things they could still do with Red Dead Online, they just don't.  And im not even talking about new content.   But what they are pulling, if this news is true.. Is exactly what they did with GTA O. 

 

As far as Gta Online goes.   Its sad that R* is still milking that game for everything they can.  That game is a mess. 

Im just going to assume that GTA 6 will come out at the end of next gens life cycle.    That way they can do same thing with GTA 6 and try to get people to buy the game again for next next gen.

 

[The_Liquor]

I would absolutely love to have RDR1 remastered and added onto RDR 2 as an expansion. I would buy it and play it... Hell, I might even buy a PS5 just to do it on... but most times this speculation ends up being a whole lot of nothing.

[Kean_1]

On 7/3/2020 at 4:11 AM, HuDawg said:

As far as Gta Online goes.   Its sad that R* is still milking that game for everything they can.  That game is a mess. 

Im just going to assume that GTA 6 will come out at the end of next gens life cycle.    That way they can do same thing with GTA 6 and try to get people to buy the game again for next next gen.

 

Sad for who though?  As far as being a "mess", then it's a very successful one at that.  GTAO is one of the most successful examples of a GaaS model there is out there.  They would be stupid not to continue with it.  I'm not really fond of a lot of the mechanics in the game but that's just my opinion.  It obviously still works for a lot of people and they cater to that.  There's still a lot of stuff I like about the game and it is the only title I've had on my HDD since it came out on PS4.  .....also had it on my PS3 and will likely buy it when the remaster arrives on PS5.  We'll have to see what they improve.

 

1 hour ago, The_Liquor said:

I would absolutely love to have RDR1 remastered and added onto RDR 2 as an expansion. I would buy it and play it... Hell, I might even buy a PS5 just to do it on... but most times this speculation ends up being a whole lot of nothing.

That would be nice as they have all but stopped providing updates or even status on future plans this year on the game.  A huge update like that would be a welcome sight and a much needed shot in the arm if they are looking to keep RDO alive on the next gen. 

[James Hickok_1837]

12 hours ago, Kean_1 said:

 they have all but stopped providing updates or even status on future plans this year on the game.  A huge update like that would be a welcome sight and a much needed shot in the arm if they are looking to keep RDO alive on the next gen. 

Well that is sad and it concerns me bcoz i was hoping so much for game development.   Now im sure that there will be at least one more update to RDRO bcoz we have seen new ability cards and rumors on tier 2 roles. Im suspecting it may be a last money grab to sell copies. Im betting they will release next update when Game Pass will finish just to make some of the ppl that started playing buy a copy of the game. After that ...... i honestly dont know but im not an optimist anymore. 

[HuDawg]

16 hours ago, Kean_1 said:

Sad for who though?  As far as being a "mess", then it's a very successful one at that.

Current gen didn't even get a new GTA.    And as it stands, next gen might not even get a new GTA.  Because they are too busy milking GTA O.  Thats the sad part.

Flying bikes, flying cars, orbital strikes and all the other extremely over powered vehicles in the game make GTA a mess.  Im not saying its all bad, but when you factor everything with the good and the bad, its a mess.    

And then theres Red Dead O.  A game where R* has basically left to die at this point.  Which seems to me that because R* can't milk RD O, they barely bother with it.   

Hell, im still waiting for Free Aim in Red Dead O.  Game is simply too brain dead easy with auto aim and auto aim is boring.

 

GTA V/O needs to be shelved by R* not pushed again onto next gen.     RDO needs to be fixed and finished.   GTA 6 should be getting its teaser trailer. 

 

Instead we live in bizzaro where the opposite of what should be happening is happening.   

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=foUaOCzfIRU

 

^1st time ever R*posted a video and it got more dislikes then likes.  The comments mostly negative.

 

Edited July 7, 2020 by HuDawg

[Kean_1]

5 hours ago, HuDawg said:

Current gen didn't even get a new GTA.    And as it stands, next gen might not even get a new GTA.  Because they are too busy milking GTA O.  Thats the sad part.

Flying bikes, flying cars, orbital strikes and all the other extremely over powered vehicles in the game make GTA a mess.  Im not saying its all bad, but when you factor everything with the good and the bad, its a mess.    

IMO, yeah, I agree.  I don't like those aspects of the game either but that's why I don't play in open sessions with randoms.   .....and quite honestly, if it wasn't for the MTU trick on PS4, I wouldn't likely be playing GTAO solo at all.

Luckily, there is a lot of other content to play with friends and since I can force myself into solo sessions, I have all the other businesses and nearly all the missions / activities at my disposal as well.  If the PS5 version doesn't allow that, I may not be buying it.  .....if it does or R* includes a solo / invite only mode that allows folks to access all of the businesses and related activities, I'll be all over it.

 

5 hours ago, HuDawg said:

And then theres Red Dead O.  A game where R* has basically left to die at this point.  Which seems to me that because R* can't milk RD O, they barely bother with it.   

Hell, im still waiting for Free Aim in Red Dead O.  Game is simply too brain dead easy with auto aim and auto aim is boring.

I agree.  They've all but abandoned updates for this game this year.  ....although we will still have to wait and see what their future plans are if any.  I'll wait until we get closer to the new consoles release dates and upcoming news on existing titles, remasters, etc.  

As for free aim, the shooting mechanics in R* games are generally too arcadey for my taste anyhow so the AA doesn't really bother me.  It's the game worlds and the whole experience that make them interesting for me.  Would I prefer more attention be put on the gunplay mechanics including more authenticity / realism?  ....you betcha.  However, without those things, free aim just doesn't bring much to the table for me in itself.  ....but that's just me.

 

5 hours ago, HuDawg said:

GTA V/O needs to be shelved by R* not pushed again onto next gen.     RDO needs to be fixed and finished.   GTA 6 should be getting its teaser trailer. 

Instead we live in bizzaro where the opposite of what should be happening is happening.   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=foUaOCzfIRU

^1st time ever R*posted a video and it got more dislikes then likes.  The comments mostly negative.

Wishing they would shelve it and saying that it needing to be are two different things though which is my point.  ......and it would be a bad move if they did given just how active GTAO still is.  Also, we have no idea what the new "expanded and enhanced" version will include.  

I'm not going to judge GTAVs re-release on PS5 by downvotes on that YT video.  We know all too well that could swing the other way depending on what the PS5 version looks like.  .....and of course, there will always be detractors as there have been since the game's release.

[HuDawg]

3 hours ago, Kean_1 said:

As for free aim, the shooting mechanics in R* games are generally too arcadey for my taste anyhow so the AA doesn't really bother me.  It's the game worlds and the whole experience that make them interesting for me.  Would I prefer more attention be put on the gunplay mechanics including more authenticity / realism?  ....you betcha.  However, without those things, free aim just doesn't bring much to the table for me in itself.  ....but that's just me.

For me its not about realism, but more the auto aim making the shoot outs in this game too fast and too easy.  Which would be a problem in any game with this type of auto aim.

It takes me about 20-30 seconds to kill 20 npcs.    With free aim, it takes at least a few mins.

There is no real difficulty setting in RD O.   Which too its credit, GTA O does have difficulty settings for pve/co-op missions, and aim settings.    GTA O HARD settings for heists with free aim can be extremely difficult.  But, you can also play it on easy with free aim.

Hell, if R* gave RD O most of the basic setting options that GTA O has, id be happier then a pig in sheeeet.