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There's a difference though between what is actually sold to consumers and what the placement orders are. Most sales reporting figures are round numbers because they reflect what the Purchase Order was from vendors to Rockstar. This includes everything from big box retailers to mom-and-pop outfits. In terms of what we should expect, I think it's important to remember that RDR is a genre game, which is going to restrict it's market to a degree to niche enthusiasts and R* fans. I don't expect the number of units to match pace with GTA V at the end of the first year, but it's going to depend on what the holiday release competition is. Having a launch date at the end of October is genius really, because you have the hardcore fans snapping up copies immediately, and within a month, you have another boon during Black Friday events as people look to pick up the "hottest" games for their significant others or kids as the Holidays approach. The online modes are going to have a big say in how large the user base for this game ends up being. Take away GTA V's online modes, and I believe you could easily slash the final sales figures in half. As important as the story and single player modes are, a robust online component enhances replay value in a way that is impossible to ignore. When folks are being asked to spend more than $60 on a game, there HAS to be the perception of value or else the base won't be sustainable. When you look at a company like Ubisoft, who had a string of launch failures (The Division, For Honor) affect later titles (Ghost Recon Wildlands), strictly based off the state of the game at launch, R*'s launch of RDR2 needs to be fully formed and robust for both single and multiplayer modes, or else they'll be suffering a setback in advance of the biggest shopping day of the year.

R* haven't been sitting around since we saw the first trailers! The graphics seem to have been improved and refined since the first trailers we saw. I am surprised at how much the general store has been altered since the first trailers we saw.

Howdy there partner! Welcome to these forums! I've just recently started to replay through RED as well, haven't played it in a while. And me shootin' skills seem to have faded, so. I've picked up me Winchester and started to try and improve me accuracy for RDR2. Anyways, I'd suggest you take a quick look at the rules here https://www.rdr2.org/forums/topic/809-forum-rules/ And if you're looking for a posse, drop yer platform and generate right on over here: https://www.rdr2.org/forums/topic/858-post-yer-platformgamertag-here/ I hope you enjoy it here bud! - Mr. Fahrenheit.

Howdy there partner! Welcome to these forums! I can't wait for RDR2 as well! I've just started to replay through RDR. I'm a bit rusty with me winchester ya see, and I thought I'd do some shootin'. In preparation of RDR2. Anyways, I'd suggest to take a quick look at the forum rules: https://www.rdr2.org/forums/topic/809-forum-rules/ Also, if you're looking for a posse. I'd suggest dropping off yer platform and gamertag here: https://www.rdr2.org/forums/topic/858-post-yer-platformgamertag-here/ hope you enjoy ya stay bud! - Mr Fahrenheit.

For sure. I blew the Gun Media trumpet as long as anyone, even squared off in some solid arguments in their defense, but the repeated ignorance became to much to ignore. The game is great. Even with problems. Was actually my first real online multiplayer experience. Could play private for hours with no hiccups and great fun. I actually spent way more time in the forums than the game over the last few months. But they're clearly done with it. Lawsuit was the perfect shroud for them to wash their hands.

I heard I was next up for it -- until the lawsuit poop hit the fan. Again, thanks.

Not sure when I'll be getting RDR2, but: TurthfulList56 - XBOX Edit: Just noticed you're a mod @Cokeyskunk, congratulations! When did that happen?

Migrated here expecting my suspension. Wasn't expecting a permaban... Pretty quiet here, but it should start filling in soon. Glad you made it to safety!

Thanks, I don't know why i added the $ signs. I guess its just my instincts ????. Now that I think about it, 100 million units might be far fetched... 10 million launch day, 30 - 50 million within the 1st and 2nd year.

Freddie!

GTA5 rumors was that they did have campaing dlcs. They scrapped them to focus on PvP, thinking that was where the money was at. Looking back now, I still think they could have released them, but they may of needed the man power somewhere else and didn't think PvE players needed the attention.

Hell yeah!! Rdr2 is almost here!¡! Ibarrola-Agus on ps4...ready to ride!¡

I'm right there with you. Friday the 13th was my first true online gaming experience. I've never been dedicated or good enough to play online, and it was kind of intimidating. Online is a boat load of fun with the right people and I've met a lot of decent folks. But the anonymity of the internet prevails. The majority just wants to annoy anyone they can. They'll even admit it. With that said, I'd like to see this be the biggest map of all the R* sandboxes. I'll never forget that feeling when I fully realized the breadth of San Andreas. Back then obviously.

Fortnite. ????

I really can't explain how this whole little scene here where it shows the landscapes makes me feel in my pants This is one of the most beautiful games made thus far. Hands down.

The fact that we get to choose what kind of man Arthur makes me feel like I am going to enjoy this game even more than I thought. It is making me think there are 2 endings for him based on moral. If you are more good than bad, one thing will happen and if you are more bad than good, another thing will happen.

I am salivating. THIS LOOKS INCREDIBLE! I love how they call Arthur "pretty boy" LOL I just have no words. The camps sound incredible. You actually work within the group and help them and they help you. I am going to not have a life soon outside of RDR2.

So GTA 5 released its Gameplay trailer on the 9th of July and their Online trailer a month after. In between, we had a slew of more screenshots released. Maybe that’s what we can expect next? I’m predicting 2 gameplay trailers and then an RDRO trailer just before launch.