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I noticed that as well. Turning HDR definitely gets rid of the haze effect but the blurriness still remains unfortunately. I can't imagine how such a huge title like red dead 2 got HDR and checkerboarding so wrong.

I help them by ending their suffering. Usually by shooting them. In the face. With a shotgun. Then I unburden them of additional weight by helping myself to the contents of their pockets.

Greetings all! I am new here but definitely not new to gaming as I am a cranky 36 year old man. I play RDR2 on my PS4-pro and I needed to change from my 60 inch 4K HDR -tv to my old set that is not bad but still only a 47 inch 1080p tv with no HDR. And the thing is that the game looks way better on my old tv with HDR off and played in 1080p without the “upscale” or what it is called ,option on. So for the game to look good(and it does), I needed to gimp my own equipment and putt all bells and whistles to off. This is is of course not acceptable but it is the only solution as I see it right now. And to be honest, the HDR in this game is way less impressive than other titles that I have played. I would go so far to even say HDR in this game looks in many cases worse than SDR and that is just crazy. I own more or less all the exclusive games made for the PS4 and I also play on a very good gaming PC, i7 8700K with a asus motherboard that automatically or when needed and I have a Asus GTX Strix 1080 and 32gb of ram. So even though I am not a pro when it comes to technical terms and such, I am an avid players and a fan of good games. I even own an XboxoneX but I play it quite reluctantly because I am not a fan of the controllers, so I gave it to my children to use instead. Do not think I am trying to start a flame war here because I am not, the XoneX is a great console but not just my cup of tea. In any event, I can endure this game even without HDR and close to 4K just because I really love the game. Still of course, this is not the kind of stunt that a studio such as Rockstar* should pull on their fans. I will introduce me here as opposed to the “introduction” section just because I need to sleep any minute or I will be too tired for work. As mentioned, I am a cranky 36 year old male from Sweden but married with a woman from Japan. We have produced two small gamers that despite what I tell them are very eager to watch when I play this game. I am lucky that my son and daughter are both very mature and I dare say, intelligent so they can easily see that games like RDR2 is just that, a game. I have studied history and religion and have briefly reached history and religion on a university level. My wife is an interior designer but is thinking of changing career. I love westerns and mostly I love the really gritty ones. Like “True Grit”, “Deadwoos”, “The hateful eight” and of course many more. I have not played that much, I am just starting chapter three and can say that after I swithched to my old tv and played the game in sdr, I have seen none of the frame rate issues people mentions in other threads and my eyes are sensitive to framedrops. But as I explained earlier, I did indeed see the blurry qualities with the visuals and also that the HDR was horrible. I hope to enjoy a long stay here with you fellers if you would let me stay here at the comfy campfire? :-)

Let me get my fingers warmed up...Okay done. First things first, the mission template isn't even that bad. There has been variety of missions that were all different. There is missions where you ride and sneak into areas, and deliver something, there is missions where you steal things without shooting a horde of people, there is missions where you destroy large areas and flea, there is missions where you need to capture someone, there is missions where you contain animal groups and escort them, the list goes on and on... This game is for people who are into the action, shooting, robbing, and stealing, this is a big part of the game, so yeah there will be plenty of shooting run and gun, sh*t hits the fan moments, and you need to hold your ground. Now that I have the "mission template" out of the way... As far as the being close to original Red Dead Redemption complaint, yes this game is a prequel to the original Red Dead game, so the game will feel similar but drastically improves. The motion capture, levels of detail. The movement changed a lot, the horse riding is absolutely insane. The way the horse reacts to uphill riding, and the way your character leans and reacts to the hill and terrain is amazing, and it's crazy how they can motion capture to make it look so realistic in those situations. The game play has a very similar feel to the original game, because it's nostalgic, and big fans of the franchise are so use to that style, and people love the classic Rockstar 3rd person feel. However there is a 1st person option if you feel so inclined. Anyways, the game has took this franchise on a next level of gaming, not just for the franchise, but the entire gaming industry. The level of detail is phenomenal, the graphics are great, the story is great, the game play is great with minor complaints on my end, the voice acting is great, the hunting is on a complete next level for the franchise, and so is the killing effects and gore. Also, I have said this before and I will say it again, bugs occur in every game, PERIOD. There will always be some type of flaw or something wrong in a video game, and especially on this massive of a scale, this game is bound to have bugs. My theory for Rockstar delaying the game has nothing to do with bugs on launch, in my opinion, they were taking their time to much and then deadlines were coming and they had to make a release because they have been inactive of releasing a game for about 5 years now. The game has been out for about a little less than a week, and there will be fixes and updates. Hopefully in the future Rockstar will release a story DLC for us to get and by then they will have all the bugs knocked out so our experience will be THAT much better. However, it could have been a marketing strategy? I'm not sure, it's the worlds greatest mystery apparently. Clothing options wasn't bad in this game, I think it's not relevant to do damage to a score of a game just strictly based on this, especially when it wasn't all that bad. If you ever played the previous title, Grand Theft Auto V, the clothing options for each character was limited and didn't have much to offer than let's say GTA Online did. GTA Online has massive amounts of clothing options because you can personalize your character even more than ever before. In my opinion, I think Rockstar limits the clothes to fit the style and story better, because it's clothes that the character would wear and fit the character during the time of the story and game. For example, in Grand Theft Auto V, Michael wouldn't have the option to wear a snap-back hat with skinny jeans, high tops, designer hoodies in a hip hop style because it simply doesn't fit the character. I think that Rockstar limited the clothing to a certain degree to have the outfits actually fit the character and make sense in the story. When Red Dead Online comes out, I can assure you the clothing options will be far more superior and better than the actual story mode. In conclusion, the game is an easy game of the year in my opinion, it's not everyday you get to play a open world with this much detail, a great story, an awesome hunting experience included, amazing effects and atmosphere, good graphics, amazing nostalgic memories from the previous installment in the franchise, and awesome missions that never got boring with a decent amount of variety while keeping things quiet simple, and just being a bad ass outlaw member with sucking you into the amazing story this game has to offer.

Would of rather we waited another year so they got it right. If your happy with it being blurry why are you here

Welcome! Yeah, RDR2 is an amazing game. I play it at night and about 7 feet away from the tv so the blurriness is not so obvious. I'm really looking forward to the checkerboarding and bluriness fixes. Welcome and let Rockstar know about your issue as well!

It’s simple then isn’t it don’t read this thread 👍🏻 Oh and by the way 23000+ views so the 6 of us have been clicking on here a lot then havnt we 🤣🤣🤫🤫

Here's mine. +3 for story, script, acting +3 for environment / map +2 for graphics +2 for immersion +1 for later missions +2 for crazy good weather and snow effects -3 for crappy mission template (I've explained this before) -2 for being so close to RDR1 in terms of movement, interactions and gameplay, ie not really progressed in 8+ years -1 for bugs (expected but having been delayed to iron them out, the number of bugs is unacceptable) -1 for seriously lacking clothes options My rating: 6/10. My 2 biggest gripes are: 1. The mission template, which again, I've explained before (go to do the thing, thing goes wrong, take cover, kill 100 bad guys, ride off, kill 30 more bad guys on horseback). This was repeated so often it became comical. 2. The oversold interactions. According to IGN and other reviewers, the peds were supposed to live their own lives. Paraphrasing: "The world isn't there for you, it is designed to exist without you even being there." The way they described this was that people would remember you and by chance thank you in the future, etc. We were sold that each ped had some kind of memory and this was almost unscripted, but in actual fact it was nothing like that. There are the same scripted encounters that were in RDR1 (albeit a few more and of differing types), and the only thing that is different is that there is another completely scripted and contrived follow up afterwards. You're walking through a town and oh, look, that guy happens to be sat on a bench outside a gunsmith and he shouts you over. @CMcC you seem to be taking great delight in my tweet to LegacyKillerHD and it does seem to be an unpopular opinion, but as with many unpopular opinions, the counter arguments are usually not particularly objective. I'm looking at this game objectively and this "living, breathing" world that we were promised has fallen way short of the mark. The quality of the expansive map and environment is beyond doubt, but the overall gameplay mechanics are only a small step forward from RDR1, which began development 13 years ago in 2005.

Sometimes it's very hard to tell if it's a random encounter or a small side-mission when you first see someone. I've been pleasantly surprised more than once.

Sad, yet true.

Just pile em up till they fall off. I found a wagon that had oranges in so they took up some room but I bet you could get a load on there. @BropolloCreed79 might be a way of making your corpse wall.

Guys, don't bother contacting Rockstar's tech support. They are utterly useless. And neither can they be expected to offer any solutions. The OnLY way to make Rockstar pay attention to this is to make a noise about it on twitter, reddit, facebook....everywhere you can.

I have the same games and all is looking fine. I´m not talking again with this guys of the support. Someone bigger or the bosses of sony himself must talk with the team. I think a lot of people now that bought a ps4 pro, the flagship of sony think now this is a bad console. I can say no it is a really good console and for me they produce the best games in incredible quality. All exclusive title are real eye candy. THe XBox has nothing on games what reach this level. Ok, now they have RDR2 I must cry. I can´t play the game more as a half hour and i must paused it, because of tears in the eyes.

This is ridiculous, the game is amazing but in my ps4pro I have blur, Rockstar must quickly to launch the patch or I think I will bought a One X... This game needs to be play in perfect conditions!

The exact same issue for me as you guys experiecncing. This has to be fixed, its a disgrace that no one has acknowledge this issue! I've been in contact with Rockstart chat support, they are worthless. Telling me that my TV is an issue, like wut? The issue is not my tv, not my eyes, only RDR2! Everything else works fine, Spider Man, Uncharted, Tomb Raider etc etc

Been Following this thread for a few days now, Decided to contact Rockstar support after they ignored me on twitter. Pointing out their technical flaws with halving the horizontal pixel count on their up scaled checker board technique, which is resulting in this blurred image at a res of 1920x2160. i kindly pointed out equalling both horizontal and vertical pixel counts as spiderman, god of war and horizon zero dawn does would fix this or even sticking a res of 2560x1440 would fix this 10fold and possibly increase performance on frame rate. also asked them to at the very least publicly acknowledge this issue as many people are left wondering what is going on. i aslo attached the image showing the ps4 pro vs Base ps4 to highlight the blur. As for HDR, the box the website and everything else states you can play this with HDR. Surely this is false advertising and can be reported to trading standards. If enough of us do this, trading standards will have to investigate and rockstar will be FORCED to do something about it or compensate the consumer. This could become very very messy for rockstar.

Yes all the time, within 30 minutes my eyes start to hurt can't play it anymore. They have to listen and fix this.

Yes but that’s equivalent of having a Ferrari and putting horse piss in to fuel it

(PS4 Pro - Samsung KS8000) This is the first time I’ve ever went to a message board for a ps4 game. Can’t even describe the disappointment this game has caused me. I kept hoping it was just the foggy snow landscape that I had to squint through on the first hour or so but this game is so blurry, wtf! Particularly mid to far distance as others have stated. The blurriness does resolve itself if you put it on 1080p but it looks so god damn bad from what I’ve become accustomed to in 4K. I’ve literally never seen this on another game and I’ve played just about every major AAA game on PS4. I’ve never even thought of going to a gaming message board before but Red Dead was a heavily influential series in my gaming life and I was expecting this game to be AT LEAST on par with other PS4 pro 4K games. I feel your pain 0ldKen.

No I´m not a cry baby. I respect all that hard work of developpers, but this game is unplayable. If you want destroy the lifecycle of your eyes. It is yours. If you are happy with the game in that status, why you are writing messages or posting in this thread? This thread is for all those that have problems with the unacceptable blur. This game is looking better on the standard ps4. Some gamers buy the PS4 pro bundle for that game.

Told you, we have to make videos.

I like how this thread has 1,000,000 views and an army of people posting, reporting, and generally making noise to get this fixed. MEANWHILE... over at the HDR thread, it's a battle just to convince 4 people that the fact that they shipped 100% fake non-existant HDR is even a PROBLEM. Imagine if you were promised native 4k, or even checkerboarded 4k, then you buy the game, boot it up, and the game's resolution is 1080p with no option to change it. Now imagine that you had to battle with gamers who are ON YOUR SIDE just to convince them that this "issue" is even worth caring about. "I mean, 1080p... 4k... who really cares? You're nitpicking bro." !@#%

I think scoring a 10/10 is the same for entertainment as it is for sexuality. We can all agree what a 9/10 looks like, but a 10/10 is personal to each individual. Personally, this has been one of my favorite games ever. The story, IMO, deserves a hell of a lot more than a +3. It's easily the best game story I've ever seen, and it's overall one of the best stories I've ever watched in any entertainment medium period. I personally found the excess of shooting enjoyable. It was better than the average "stalk a guy silently through the city" quests we've had in GTA games. There aren't that many things to do in game missions outside of talking civilly and fighting. I have to agree with you on the false advertisement though. I wouldn't call it overhype, because this game was definitely deserving, but I would call it blatant overselling and straight up lying. There is no real interactions with NPCs. Not even the ones at camp. You can't take your camp mates out for activities like you could in GTA 5 (WASTED opportunity) -- you could take Trevor or Lamar to rob a store and they'd sit there behind you and say "you better listen to this guy, he's crazy" to the cashier. Imagine being able to hold up stores with John or Dutch or Sadie at random! It would have been great. But no. You also get no real interaction with radiant NPCs. You can greet them for a howdy but that's literally it. There are actually more dialogue options when antagonizing people. And, robberies rarely ever work. I tried to rob around 50 people, maybe 3 of them actually gave me their money. The rest tried to shoot me and a handful tried to run away. The morality system is a joke. It might as well not be there apart from discounts at stores, of which theres nothing to buy. You're right on the money about clothing being a joke. I hated the intro blue shirt, and I only ever found 1 outfit that didn't look ridiculous outside of that. Speaking of which the economy is fundamentally broken. You get too much money for the story to justify and so it pretends that you're broke in the game and won't allow you to buy anything substantive, else wise your character would have just used his 20 thousand dollars to leave the US and buy a house in another country. There were some glitches in my game, but nothing that didn't resolve itself. I did notice that many gang members would be missing from camp. Every chapter at least 4 gang members just didn't exist in my game. I didn't see Sadie until chapter 4. TL;DR we were sold a living world outside of the story. We were lied to. I made a thread earlier which you responded to where I talked about rockstar stripping features from single player to put into multi player -- you said you didn't think they'd do that. It's a beautiful world, and a phenomenally written and acted story. That being said it's empty outside of the missions. Which I can see you feel too. No clothing options, no way to spend money outside of your horse and guns (also fundamentally useless to upgrade when you have dead eye), no random NPC interactions outside of saying hello or insulting them. NO HANGING OUT WITH GANG MEMBERS OUTSIDE OF MISSIONS AND SIDE MISSIONS (that's my biggest gripe). I'd give the story a 9/10 objectively, and the free roam a 4/10 simply because it's empty. In the end I expect many of the things I felt were left out, like an economy, good clothing, luxury items and properties to buy -- I assume they'll all be implemented into Red Dead Online. In the same way GTA 5 SP was stripped of features to save for GTAO. Same scummy business practices as 2013. Same complaints I had back then too. Literally, I was having this EXACT same argument half a decade ago. It's Rockstar. I warned you guys you were being duped. I honestly thought it would be worse. It seems I was pleasantly surprised compared to my expectations and you were slightly let down. Although, you seem a little... Emotional about it now. I know when I'm disappointed I get overworked too. I doubt you'll be this pissed in a month once you reflect on the game a bit. It really wasn't bad. Certainly not deserving of a 6. It's an 8.5 easily.

I just got ****ing spoiled the end of the ****ing game!!! FIRST POST I SAW ON THEIR TWITTER! Godddamnit!!!! I would’ve never even clicked on that if it weren’t to complain about this sh*t situation!!!!! Only NOW... am I REALLY ****ing MAD.

Yeah, I think it's a graduated fine starting at 5% and going up to 20% but I would have to research to confirm. Either way, they don't take all of your money from my experience. I think I died once from a posse but never noticed what they took. I was just starting out back then so I didn't have much. ......manual saves are our friends folks.

Hahaha...... Funny, that "head into a canoe" is a common phrase Clint Smith uses (weapons trainer and old Viet vet).

Chapter 1 feels pretty linear, so those who give up early don't really get a flavor of the game at all. The game opens up a little in chapter 2, but it REALLY opens up in chapter 3. I'm still in chapter 3, and I just keep stumbling upon things to find and do. I keep thinking I'm going to go do that story mission I've been putting off, only to find more reasons to put it off before I can get to it!

Shoot the horse. A dead horse won't kick you. Christopher Reeves would disagree with you. Oh, wait, he can't....

When I start playing at 9pm after my kids are in bed, and glance at my phone at 3AM, the game has officially sucked me in.

That's the dilemma. Taking a screenshot via share, eliminates some of the blur affect (resolution is still crap though) while taking a photo of the tv screen also does not give an accurate representation of the issue. This is something that the engineers need to see for themselves. The comparison between the different platforms is just way too different especially given that the PS4Pro does have the capability for excellent checkerboarding as we've seen with the other titles.

"The bitch was inventing the candy gram"

You are one sick puppy and I love it lol

Candygram for Mongo!

I've punched a cow which was one off the bucket list.

I'm with you. I don't get what people get from console flame-wars in general. People need to realize that the only reason their console is good is because the other console is competition, and competition spurs innovation. All us cowboys and cowgirls need to stick together!

yeah.... Every time I'm in town and most times I pass people on the road (unless I'm in a hurry) I'll try to greet them. That will have an effect. Eventually you'll start seeing white silhouettes of a man with a hat on with a plus sign next to it appear briefly at the right of the screen. If you can find someone in distress, help them. That is a big boost.

I gave a guy a beat-down, liked his hat, and stuck it on my head. So far so good. I've been wearing it for a little while. But when I went to camp to change outfits, I noticed that I couldn't select my new hat. There it was on my head, but the checked text was "No Hat." What's more, the hat itself was not on the list of hats I could choose. I checked the "Found Hats" and "Stolen Hats" lists, but there was nothing on either. I can safely back out of outfit mode and keep the hat, but I'm afraid if I choose another hat, the new one will be gone forever.

I don't get the XBox owners who are taking the p*ss out of the PS4 owners for this. I've waited nearly a decade for this game and stayed up overnight until I could play it, and if it were as disappointing or unplayable as it sounds like it has been on the PS4 I'd be gutted. Hope they work it out for you guys soon.

Also have an unsharp washed out picture on my ps4 Pro. It’s for sure the the rendering checkerboarding resolution that is messed up. I just dont understand how a a week have gone already later today and still no hotfix in sight, this is NOT okay!!!!

Whats the name of the mission? I'll look it up in the guide and see if it says anything about this script.

Don't assume Kean is try to fill you with BS. I think there are safeguards you can do, instead of running full bull in a china shop everywhere. I also believe that somethings in this game just aren't fair. I started playing through once, playing the nice guy and things was rough going in every event. Restarted and instead of sparing NPCs, I'm cold and harsh. Things seem easier and fewer gankings by NPCs, so far. I think there are triggers hidden in the mechanics that can make the game easier or harder down the line.

This! I believe there HAS to be a better deal considering how RDR2 looks on One X and how other games look on on the Pro - never had any beef with checkerboarding as the games looked absolutely gorgeous.

The game was designed to be super slow and time consuming, not rushed. So when you do side missions, and other things while doing the main story missions, I bet you the template opinion would change. If you did other things in the mix such as hunting, fishing, finding all the legendary animals, customizing your camp, exploring, doing side missions, doing bounties, helping people out, finding hidden treasures in the game... People love this engine, what more is there to say? Rockstar has been crowned game of the year every time they release a game. If they were to released Red Dead Redemption 2, it HAD to be on the classic RAGE engine. Also, yes the game has been in development for 8 years, do you know what year it was 8 years from now? 2010... So yeah, the game was being made on that engine for a long time, and they stuck with it, and for a engine being that old, man oh man it improved! Rockstar officially and publicly said they were delaying the game for "Polishing" now polishing could mean a few different things for each department...The game was being polished for optimization and looks for the final touches to make the game stand out. Rockstar has put in a lot of work on this game, and there is still a lot of work to be done. In the world of video games, developing them are really endless... No I said "do damage to the score" meaning the score was affect by this, not strictly and only based on this complaint... To be honest, clothes weren't in the prime back in the wild west, so the time frame of this game, the clothes are really great and there is a lot to choose from. Don't judge, EMBRACE!

Btw, happy fishing, lots of fun!

Yep, I work tier 1 support (for a software company) which are the same type of folks that man the R* tickets and Twitter accounts and stuff this prolific always makes it to leadership (if not executives).

Control schemes can make or break a game. Your main way of interacting with the virtual world, the middleman between your intentions and their manifestation in-game, comfortable controls are key for an enjoyable gaming experience. Red Dead Redemption 2 has several control presets allowing you some measure of customization. This guide will help you with the most common control scheme related problems. One of the most common control gripes with Red Dead Redemption 2 is sprinting. Many, many games have managed to put together comfortable control schemes, making Rockstar being bogged down in this a bit of a headscratcher. To sprint, you need to tap either X or A, depending on system. This won't do. In the controls settings, you have several control preset options to choose from. These have been named after what they're most suited for, however you should disregard that. Switch over to the "Standard FPS" option. You don't need to switch your camera perspective, as this preset is better in third-person view as well. This control scheme swaps the sprint and crouch inputs, making the left analog stick responsible for sprinting. Now navigate to Accessibility Options in the menu, and select Running Mode. You should set this to Toggle to Run. This way you get the sprinting controls common in most games these days - press the analog stick to maintain sprinting. Pressing it again will return you to jogging and easing off the stick will return you to walking. Depending on your preferences, there are a number of other control tweaks that can improve your experience. We recommend turning Aim/Look Dead Zone to the minimum setting for more responsive controls. When it comes to Aim/Look Acceleration, pushing the setting to the maximum turns it off for some reason, but this results in much smoother camera control. Every player should tailor Aim Assist and axis sensitivity to their own liking, but you shouldn't just leave it at default. You might not even know you need to adjust these settings, but once you've played around with them you'll almost definitely find a setting better suited to your playstyle. Something that should be standard practice by now since companies refuse to set default FOV to max is turning FOV to max. This is easy to forget, but your Red Dead Redemption 2 experience will be greatly improved by it. Another smaller tweak we suggest is disabling auto-center. This rubberbands the camera to refocus on the default state, which can be annoying when you want to take in the sights. If you're running low on cash, check out our money making guide as well as our gold bar guide. The post Red Dead Redemption 2 Control Settings Guide - X/A Sprinting And More appeared first on RDR2.org. Read the full story

Everyone has to get in touch with rockstar to make something happen, I have done and they got back saying you need to reboot your ps4 pro 😂😂 like that's the problem. They ain't thinking about fixing this anytime soon. Complain everyone.

I must have been lucky, I've run into very few bugs ... It makes me curious what games you guys are playing, because this is about the most bug free, polished game I've ever seen - it's amazing to me how glitch free the landscape, etc is. I've seen one "floating rock", and it was in a part of the map that I doubt anyone would even go to ... I intentionally went there, WAY off the beaten path, and even there the details where stunning. The only thing out of place was a fist sized rock floating about a foot off of the ground. Other than that, I've had very few glitches. The only glitch I've seen that stopped me from progressing was when one of the story elements required me to "crouch down" next to someone, and for the life of me I could not get that to work, I have no idea what the problem was - I finally had to quit out of it and have not tried it again. Maybe there's just a crouch command I don't know ? I thought it was pushing down on the left joy stick which does, in fact, make to go to a crouching position ... but maybe I was required to do it in a very specific place, but it didn't seem so from the yellow on the map. ///// WARNING /// TWO SPOILERS FOLLOW, ONE STORY RELATED ///// The only other "immersion breaking" thing that happened to me was the camp boat miraculously returning to home base without me .. but really maybe it just floated away, and that only happened once, and also when setting up camp takes you to places you couldn't get to on foot which has happened, but I kind of understand why that happens from a development standpoint.

My mistake there, partner. I rode up over the hill and saw you going through that dead feller's pockets. What was I to think?

UPDATE, I think i have just found a way to remove it. Go hunting and collect 3 or 4 pelts then go back to camp and sell them, when i did that it seemed to take away the glitched one, I didnt get anything for it but at least it's gone. I removed the saddle and put it back, it still appears to be gone so try it out and let me know👍