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I noticed that as well. Turning HDR definitely gets rid of the haze effect but the blurriness still remains unfortunately. I can't imagine how such a huge title like red dead 2 got HDR and checkerboarding so wrong.

I help them by ending their suffering. Usually by shooting them. In the face. With a shotgun. Then I unburden them of additional weight by helping myself to the contents of their pockets.

Greetings all! I am new here but definitely not new to gaming as I am a cranky 36 year old man. I play RDR2 on my PS4-pro and I needed to change from my 60 inch 4K HDR -tv to my old set that is not bad but still only a 47 inch 1080p tv with no HDR. And the thing is that the game looks way better on my old tv with HDR off and played in 1080p without the “upscale” or what it is called ,option on. So for the game to look good(and it does), I needed to gimp my own equipment and putt all bells and whistles to off. This is is of course not acceptable but it is the only solution as I see it right now. And to be honest, the HDR in this game is way less impressive than other titles that I have played. I would go so far to even say HDR in this game looks in many cases worse than SDR and that is just crazy. I own more or less all the exclusive games made for the PS4 and I also play on a very good gaming PC, i7 8700K with a asus motherboard that automatically or when needed and I have a Asus GTX Strix 1080 and 32gb of ram. So even though I am not a pro when it comes to technical terms and such, I am an avid players and a fan of good games. I even own an XboxoneX but I play it quite reluctantly because I am not a fan of the controllers, so I gave it to my children to use instead. Do not think I am trying to start a flame war here because I am not, the XoneX is a great console but not just my cup of tea. In any event, I can endure this game even without HDR and close to 4K just because I really love the game. Still of course, this is not the kind of stunt that a studio such as Rockstar* should pull on their fans. I will introduce me here as opposed to the “introduction” section just because I need to sleep any minute or I will be too tired for work. As mentioned, I am a cranky 36 year old male from Sweden but married with a woman from Japan. We have produced two small gamers that despite what I tell them are very eager to watch when I play this game. I am lucky that my son and daughter are both very mature and I dare say, intelligent so they can easily see that games like RDR2 is just that, a game. I have studied history and religion and have briefly reached history and religion on a university level. My wife is an interior designer but is thinking of changing career. I love westerns and mostly I love the really gritty ones. Like “True Grit”, “Deadwoos”, “The hateful eight” and of course many more. I have not played that much, I am just starting chapter three and can say that after I swithched to my old tv and played the game in sdr, I have seen none of the frame rate issues people mentions in other threads and my eyes are sensitive to framedrops. But as I explained earlier, I did indeed see the blurry qualities with the visuals and also that the HDR was horrible. I hope to enjoy a long stay here with you fellers if you would let me stay here at the comfy campfire? :-)

Let me get my fingers warmed up...Okay done. First things first, the mission template isn't even that bad. There has been variety of missions that were all different. There is missions where you ride and sneak into areas, and deliver something, there is missions where you steal things without shooting a horde of people, there is missions where you destroy large areas and flea, there is missions where you need to capture someone, there is missions where you contain animal groups and escort them, the list goes on and on... This game is for people who are into the action, shooting, robbing, and stealing, this is a big part of the game, so yeah there will be plenty of shooting run and gun, sh*t hits the fan moments, and you need to hold your ground. Now that I have the "mission template" out of the way... As far as the being close to original Red Dead Redemption complaint, yes this game is a prequel to the original Red Dead game, so the game will feel similar but drastically improves. The motion capture, levels of detail. The movement changed a lot, the horse riding is absolutely insane. The way the horse reacts to uphill riding, and the way your character leans and reacts to the hill and terrain is amazing, and it's crazy how they can motion capture to make it look so realistic in those situations. The game play has a very similar feel to the original game, because it's nostalgic, and big fans of the franchise are so use to that style, and people love the classic Rockstar 3rd person feel. However there is a 1st person option if you feel so inclined. Anyways, the game has took this franchise on a next level of gaming, not just for the franchise, but the entire gaming industry. The level of detail is phenomenal, the graphics are great, the story is great, the game play is great with minor complaints on my end, the voice acting is great, the hunting is on a complete next level for the franchise, and so is the killing effects and gore. Also, I have said this before and I will say it again, bugs occur in every game, PERIOD. There will always be some type of flaw or something wrong in a video game, and especially on this massive of a scale, this game is bound to have bugs. My theory for Rockstar delaying the game has nothing to do with bugs on launch, in my opinion, they were taking their time to much and then deadlines were coming and they had to make a release because they have been inactive of releasing a game for about 5 years now. The game has been out for about a little less than a week, and there will be fixes and updates. Hopefully in the future Rockstar will release a story DLC for us to get and by then they will have all the bugs knocked out so our experience will be THAT much better. However, it could have been a marketing strategy? I'm not sure, it's the worlds greatest mystery apparently. Clothing options wasn't bad in this game, I think it's not relevant to do damage to a score of a game just strictly based on this, especially when it wasn't all that bad. If you ever played the previous title, Grand Theft Auto V, the clothing options for each character was limited and didn't have much to offer than let's say GTA Online did. GTA Online has massive amounts of clothing options because you can personalize your character even more than ever before. In my opinion, I think Rockstar limits the clothes to fit the style and story better, because it's clothes that the character would wear and fit the character during the time of the story and game. For example, in Grand Theft Auto V, Michael wouldn't have the option to wear a snap-back hat with skinny jeans, high tops, designer hoodies in a hip hop style because it simply doesn't fit the character. I think that Rockstar limited the clothing to a certain degree to have the outfits actually fit the character and make sense in the story. When Red Dead Online comes out, I can assure you the clothing options will be far more superior and better than the actual story mode. In conclusion, the game is an easy game of the year in my opinion, it's not everyday you get to play a open world with this much detail, a great story, an awesome hunting experience included, amazing effects and atmosphere, good graphics, amazing nostalgic memories from the previous installment in the franchise, and awesome missions that never got boring with a decent amount of variety while keeping things quiet simple, and just being a bad ass outlaw member with sucking you into the amazing story this game has to offer.

Would of rather we waited another year so they got it right. If your happy with it being blurry why are you here

Welcome! Yeah, RDR2 is an amazing game. I play it at night and about 7 feet away from the tv so the blurriness is not so obvious. I'm really looking forward to the checkerboarding and bluriness fixes. Welcome and let Rockstar know about your issue as well!

It’s simple then isn’t it don’t read this thread 👍🏻 Oh and by the way 23000+ views so the 6 of us have been clicking on here a lot then havnt we 🤣🤣🤫🤫

Here's mine. +3 for story, script, acting +3 for environment / map +2 for graphics +2 for immersion +1 for later missions +2 for crazy good weather and snow effects -3 for crappy mission template (I've explained this before) -2 for being so close to RDR1 in terms of movement, interactions and gameplay, ie not really progressed in 8+ years -1 for bugs (expected but having been delayed to iron them out, the number of bugs is unacceptable) -1 for seriously lacking clothes options My rating: 6/10. My 2 biggest gripes are: 1. The mission template, which again, I've explained before (go to do the thing, thing goes wrong, take cover, kill 100 bad guys, ride off, kill 30 more bad guys on horseback). This was repeated so often it became comical. 2. The oversold interactions. According to IGN and other reviewers, the peds were supposed to live their own lives. Paraphrasing: "The world isn't there for you, it is designed to exist without you even being there." The way they described this was that people would remember you and by chance thank you in the future, etc. We were sold that each ped had some kind of memory and this was almost unscripted, but in actual fact it was nothing like that. There are the same scripted encounters that were in RDR1 (albeit a few more and of differing types), and the only thing that is different is that there is another completely scripted and contrived follow up afterwards. You're walking through a town and oh, look, that guy happens to be sat on a bench outside a gunsmith and he shouts you over. @CMcC you seem to be taking great delight in my tweet to LegacyKillerHD and it does seem to be an unpopular opinion, but as with many unpopular opinions, the counter arguments are usually not particularly objective. I'm looking at this game objectively and this "living, breathing" world that we were promised has fallen way short of the mark. The quality of the expansive map and environment is beyond doubt, but the overall gameplay mechanics are only a small step forward from RDR1, which began development 13 years ago in 2005.

Sometimes it's very hard to tell if it's a random encounter or a small side-mission when you first see someone. I've been pleasantly surprised more than once.

Sad, yet true.

Just pile em up till they fall off. I found a wagon that had oranges in so they took up some room but I bet you could get a load on there. @BropolloCreed79 might be a way of making your corpse wall.

Guys, don't bother contacting Rockstar's tech support. They are utterly useless. And neither can they be expected to offer any solutions. The OnLY way to make Rockstar pay attention to this is to make a noise about it on twitter, reddit, facebook....everywhere you can.

I have the same games and all is looking fine. I´m not talking again with this guys of the support. Someone bigger or the bosses of sony himself must talk with the team. I think a lot of people now that bought a ps4 pro, the flagship of sony think now this is a bad console. I can say no it is a really good console and for me they produce the best games in incredible quality. All exclusive title are real eye candy. THe XBox has nothing on games what reach this level. Ok, now they have RDR2 I must cry. I can´t play the game more as a half hour and i must paused it, because of tears in the eyes.

This is ridiculous, the game is amazing but in my ps4pro I have blur, Rockstar must quickly to launch the patch or I think I will bought a One X... This game needs to be play in perfect conditions!

The exact same issue for me as you guys experiecncing. This has to be fixed, its a disgrace that no one has acknowledge this issue! I've been in contact with Rockstart chat support, they are worthless. Telling me that my TV is an issue, like wut? The issue is not my tv, not my eyes, only RDR2! Everything else works fine, Spider Man, Uncharted, Tomb Raider etc etc

Been Following this thread for a few days now, Decided to contact Rockstar support after they ignored me on twitter. Pointing out their technical flaws with halving the horizontal pixel count on their up scaled checker board technique, which is resulting in this blurred image at a res of 1920x2160. i kindly pointed out equalling both horizontal and vertical pixel counts as spiderman, god of war and horizon zero dawn does would fix this or even sticking a res of 2560x1440 would fix this 10fold and possibly increase performance on frame rate. also asked them to at the very least publicly acknowledge this issue as many people are left wondering what is going on. i aslo attached the image showing the ps4 pro vs Base ps4 to highlight the blur. As for HDR, the box the website and everything else states you can play this with HDR. Surely this is false advertising and can be reported to trading standards. If enough of us do this, trading standards will have to investigate and rockstar will be FORCED to do something about it or compensate the consumer. This could become very very messy for rockstar.

Yes all the time, within 30 minutes my eyes start to hurt can't play it anymore. They have to listen and fix this.

Yes but that’s equivalent of having a Ferrari and putting horse piss in to fuel it

(PS4 Pro - Samsung KS8000) This is the first time I’ve ever went to a message board for a ps4 game. Can’t even describe the disappointment this game has caused me. I kept hoping it was just the foggy snow landscape that I had to squint through on the first hour or so but this game is so blurry, wtf! Particularly mid to far distance as others have stated. The blurriness does resolve itself if you put it on 1080p but it looks so god damn bad from what I’ve become accustomed to in 4K. I’ve literally never seen this on another game and I’ve played just about every major AAA game on PS4. I’ve never even thought of going to a gaming message board before but Red Dead was a heavily influential series in my gaming life and I was expecting this game to be AT LEAST on par with other PS4 pro 4K games. I feel your pain 0ldKen.

No I´m not a cry baby. I respect all that hard work of developpers, but this game is unplayable. If you want destroy the lifecycle of your eyes. It is yours. If you are happy with the game in that status, why you are writing messages or posting in this thread? This thread is for all those that have problems with the unacceptable blur. This game is looking better on the standard ps4. Some gamers buy the PS4 pro bundle for that game.

Told you, we have to make videos.

I like how this thread has 1,000,000 views and an army of people posting, reporting, and generally making noise to get this fixed. MEANWHILE... over at the HDR thread, it's a battle just to convince 4 people that the fact that they shipped 100% fake non-existant HDR is even a PROBLEM. Imagine if you were promised native 4k, or even checkerboarded 4k, then you buy the game, boot it up, and the game's resolution is 1080p with no option to change it. Now imagine that you had to battle with gamers who are ON YOUR SIDE just to convince them that this "issue" is even worth caring about. "I mean, 1080p... 4k... who really cares? You're nitpicking bro." !@#%

I think the game glitches out on a lot of players and doesn't work properly, imho.

I don't know, seems kinda random sometimes. Earlier today I got in two self defense situations with other people nearby and nothing happened. The first one some douchebag picked a fight with me in the streets of Valentine. I was trying to beat him without actually killing him but accidently went too far, as soon as I saw him fall down and the x popped up on the minimap I was like damnit! But then no crime was reported and nothing happened even with all the Valentine people in the streets. I didn't loot the body, and just walked away. The second time was when going through a covered bridge and being robbed at the other end, shot all three dead and within seconds, before I even had a chance to loot the bodies, some guy rode past and nothing. No crime or witness. I've gotten in the habit of putting on the bandana immediately after stuff like that happens out in the wilderness, that way if someone rides by while you're still looting all the bodies, you won't be immediately identified and you don't have to go chasing after any witness, all you gotta do is be gone by the time the law shows up to investigate

*raises hand* That weren't no dog!

That's pretty funny but although I havent tried it yet, I would imagine killing horses will lower your character levels - and I wasn't sure if you could still loot saddle bags if you killed the horse, guess I'll give it a try. Christopher Reeves doesn't like horses and I think he won Dancing with the stars last week...

As MS mentions, the beginning of the game is an orientation of sorts to get you familiar with some of the mechanics and set the foundation of the story, characters, etc. The gameworld will open up and gradually you'll be introduced to more aspects of the game as you progress.

That's the dilemma. Taking a screenshot via share, eliminates some of the blur affect (resolution is still crap though) while taking a photo of the tv screen also does not give an accurate representation of the issue. This is something that the engineers need to see for themselves. The comparison between the different platforms is just way too different especially given that the PS4Pro does have the capability for excellent checkerboarding as we've seen with the other titles.

I don't necessarily think it's the rushing of the game that gives a bad impression to players (although that may be in some cases) but perhaps it's telling of a general lack of interest or dissatisfaction in some of its elements. Personally, I tend to rush games I simply don't find that interesting and I'll savor the ones I really enjoy. .....like this one. No wrong or right here, just a matter of perspective.

Story mode is the open world ... just not in the very beginning. You have to go through a bit of the story hand holding to get to the open world.

I'm only 38% of the way through, so I can only give it a tentative score. That's actually many hours of my time, as I like to take things slowly. When I rate a game, I usually only consider how it makes me feel when I'm playing. If I'm fully sucked in, having a blast, forgetting my real life troubles, and thinking about it when I'm not playing, then it rates highly. Based on this, I have to give it a 10. I love playing it, and that's what matters. 10 doesn't mean it's technically perfect, it just means it has consumed me. There are long stretches of time where I almost just forget that I am actually playing a game. One hint of how much I love RDR2 is that I very rarely post to forums for any games -- and here I am.

Candygram for Mongo!

Part of me wonders how playthrough speed relates to folks' rating of the game. I'm still on Chapter 2, but I've literally done EVERYTHING I could quest-wise, apart from talking to Dutch (because I know he's going to trigger a chapter shift) and I'm still finding strangers here and there (I refuse to look for help online). If you had asked me last week, my score would have been lower while I was still fumbling about with the controls and clunky interface, but now that I've given it time to breathe, and applied myself a bit, the game is starting to shine. It's languid storytelling pace is a motif for the entire game design as far as I can tell, one which is a breath of fresh air in an era dominated by fast paced multiplayer FPS games that give you cybernetic enhancements and jetpacks. With RDR2, it's just me and my horse doing our thing. For me that means exploring the world at my own pace and enjoying the thrill of discovering things--like It's little touches like that which make the game fascinating and immersive on a level that few games are able to recreate or replicate successfully. For my horse, it means taking MASSIVE dumps every time I stop somewhere to investigate things. Oh, and he's fond of this too.

I did, accidentally. I also fudged a control move meant to feed a second horse, and shot it ... It did not die though, or even buck me, but it made disconcerting noises ...

I don't get the XBox owners who are taking the p*ss out of the PS4 owners for this. I've waited nearly a decade for this game and stayed up overnight until I could play it, and if it were as disappointing or unplayable as it sounds like it has been on the PS4 I'd be gutted. Hope they work it out for you guys soon.

Just want to add, that I have ben working on the mechanics of horse controls, and I figured out how to run the horse full speed, you have to keep tapping the x button over and over again, so mac mittens try that and see if that helps?☺️

Lol, I'm still in Chapter 2 because I keep getting sidetracked with little "experiments" like this. Looks like Chapter 3 is going to have to wait one more night. I already feel the beginnings of a plan taking shape that involves a wagon, some O'Driscolls, maybe a few of those jerks from the oil fields, and a train track.

The tool is a Godsend. With it, you can basically post anything in-game you like, and only those whom choose to view it will do so. Use it liberally, use it early, use it often. Thank you for championing this cause, @BropolloCreed79

This is a daft question. Folding=losing. You have made your initial bet, then decided to fold. You have lost. You have not won. Therefore if you fold after winning the previous hand, but then win the next one, you have not won two in a row. You have won two out of three.

I think you and I are absolutely in alignment in our positive takeaways of this game. 100%. In fact, everything you said here is bang on the money.

Further to this, if anyone does want to forward the HDR issue to advertising standards this is the link. https://www.asa.org.uk/make-a-complaint.html They investigated no mans sky which didn't come to fruition for what happened but it still lit up the massive issue for a lot more people.

Yeah, this is amazing! You should have told them that without changing any settings on your console or TV, all your other PS4 games look amazing. It is NOT any console or TV settings that is the cause or solution to the problem. It is the GAME.

Another Morning in Eastern Europe, without a word from rockstar! what a shame and what disappointment, i stopped playing RDR2 until they fix this game..

This thread is making me quite sad.

Welcome! It's not so much reactivity, it's more about how they feel to ride. "Heavy" would be like the Ardennes, where it thumps around corners and is a bit slow to turn. "Race" would describe a nimble horse that you can switch from one direction to the other quickly. I think they are limited, so you can increase them by, say, 3 points, but that's the max you can increase them by. I'm yet to get a full stat horse, put it that way.

There's your answer, that's exactly the one I had to complete to move on. In fact, there's another post here on this board that I wrote about this VERY issue, and I even mentioned that the only thing I hadn't done was the Javier Escuela mission, .. and when I did it, that was what fixed it. Now you know.

Just ignore him, he's not here to help, we have to contact rockstar games support.

Who do you think you are talking too at rock*? Do you think you are talking to a developer? You are talking to customer service rep, who is not even in same building. nor probably the same state the game was made. They are not going to know a damn thing other than basic trouble shooting from a script they were handed. The game has been out for less than a week, thing don't magically get fixed with just a few strokes on a keyboard. Good grief, some gamers are the most impatient, entitled crybabies. I have ever come across.

Everyone has to get in touch with rockstar to make something happen, I have done and they got back saying you need to reboot your ps4 pro 😂😂 like that's the problem. They ain't thinking about fixing this anytime soon. Complain everyone.

Honestly when i go looking for 3 star rabbits I can never find them. But I took someone else advice in this thread and just went about my normal business riding around doing missions, and every time I see rabbits just draw down on them with my varmant rifle and take pot shots if they are 3 stars. I competed the challenge in five minutes doing it this waY. They weren't even head shots either.