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Thats me on the horse, and three buddies I play with.

I think you're right. It is all about Online now and the people attracted to that are so dim, you could feed them a turd and they would love it. I'm definitely not wasting any more of my time on this.

Your own words betray you based on the preponderance of the evidence: Not using "normie" but the equivalent. You can lie to me and lie to yourself, but the truth will set you free.

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After spending a few (frustrating)hours online, here's what I think needs to be addressed: - no private lobbies available - player icons should not be lit all the time, just breeds trolls and man was there alot of trolls - you lose all pelts on your horse if you die, makes no sense, unless the horse was attacked also - There needs to be a heavy penalty/bounty for killing other players/horses (LIKE R* promised) - Players should not be able to be attacked while in an animation (skinning etc..) or they need to add a way break an animation if you see someone approaching. People sit back and wait for you to start skinning an animal and then kill you or lasso you - Passive mode????? - From what I've seen, there isn't a way to sell valuables. - You can't set up camps anywhere you want, only set locations. (and they charge you a buck each time)

Yea you know I think that’s really my issue with trolls. They’re chicken shits they camp out around mission start points hiding behind sh*t waiting for you or they do like you day and wait till they can shoot you in the back when they know you can’t do anything back to them real quick or they wait for you to go afk while getting a drink or somthing then come kill you. They don’t face you head on cuz they’re too scared and know they’ll lose

So essentially what your telling me is that those of us that want to play the game the right way and actually play the mini games the way they were intended to be played should just get off and never play again cuz we don’t like the **** offs that are just there to be a di*k? So you want me to just play single player cuz I play the game right and I’m respectful of players that are just minding their own business but it’s totally alright for the ****in idiots to just keep on playing cuz they’re just doing a wonderful job?

Does Fornite have horses with shrinking balls? I didn't think so.

Yeah it's tiresome. If only there was some way to punish trolls? Flogging sounds good.

You do know that there's CO OP missions in this game. That have ZERO PVP in it.

I've been just about managing the cash so far - I've upgraded my camp, modified some guns, and always enough food. My tips: 1) Having ultimate edition, with free varmint rifle and horse really, really helps. Sorry. 2) Unlocking ranks gives treasure map rewards. Always worth doing. Rank up as quick as you can by doing stuff. 3) Loot every structure of cans of food and tonics. You also sometimes find jewels to sell to fence. 4) Whenever travelling (fast travel costs, only do when necessary), shoot and pick and loot everything as you go - don't worry about pelts (you'll never get them to the butcher), just get feathers, meat, talons etc - these you keep in satchel. This is the most sure fire way of getting dosh - but it takes time. I can spend a few hours doing this to get any real dosh. But it's surefire. 5) Clear bandit hideouts - then loot everyone. Usually worth it. 6) Loot bodies as you do missions.

I totally understand the frustration with the archery thing. Same with a number of other game modes where the objective is to capture a place, hold a place, use only certain weapons, or shoot targets or whatever - regardless more than half the group just run around shooting everyone - making the game mode entirely pointless! I've even had people just ignore stuff on story missions and try to wreck them. Why troll a story mission? I think we have to admit that most people who play games are imbeciles and that games should be designed with that in mind.

Pretty much everything will be solved by time m8. Its fresh start of beta 😉 once trolls have bounty on their heads for killing you for no reason and people/law will hunt them down it will be OK. Btw you only see enemies on minimap for a certain period od time (when you character sees them physically/ when there is shooting etc.). They can hide behind or inside a building and u don't see them anymore. Btw i think those deadmatches will be much better when people get other weapons like scope rifles/shotguns etc. But after all classic deathmatch is only 1 mode out of like 10 others so. I really like that team deathmatch when you get points according to weapon used 1 for repeater/7 for tomahawk etc.)

just registered to comment here. feel so disappointed, got mislead by the online review that ps4 pro is closer to xbox one x version in terms of graphics. obviously, i played a few days of the ps4 pro one, my eyes are blurry, i can't continue. Is there a way to force the game run at 1080p on ps4 pro on a 4k tv? by setting ps4 pro resolution to 1080p?? Rockstars, i am really disappointed , I won't buy game from you anymore.

This is exactly what I am talking about. Thank you

First thing that popped into my head, and my 3rd favorite Christmas movie.

My Husband & I have been trying to do the side missions and level up and save money to buy a bow for the main mission, It seems though we stay off the main roads, stay away from people that a lot of the players will literally go out of there way to just come and shoot us. We then get into a Killing spree back and forth until some one parleys. This takes a lot of hours out of our game play, we work, we have maybe 2-5 hours per day of game play... The last thing I want to do when I get home from dealing with people all day,... is have to get home and deal with the Snot nosed Murderous Children who clearly only play the game to ruin every ones day by random acts of unnecessary PvP violence! It takes precious time out of our doing missions to have to constantly stop and defend ourselves from random kiddies who constantly PvP you, everything from just riding by and the shoot you on the way by, to tracking you way out in the wilds and attacking you. This PvP is out of hand, It's passe, and with all the PvP games out there and e-sport battle Royales, PvP no longer has a relevant place in open World games... Specially when the game is based on PvE content. PvP & PvE should always be separated on their respective servers. I do not see the point of Rockstar bringing out another GTA5 style of open world game. RDR2O is basically that, GTA5 only set in the 1800's.... Back to the top of this post. Again my Husband & I are doing the main story missions and side quest, Though we can do PvP, and will kill our attacker over, and over, and over, and over...well you get the point, THAT disrupts our game play and time. There should be a way to turn PvP completely off. Another irritating factor is some of the side missions do AGAIN the GTA5 B.S. of trying to bring a mission in and it actually promotes other players to PvP and stop you!! On top of all the NPC coming after you! That Cow Stuffing needs to be taken out of the game!! Thanks for reading

Fixed. Anarchy is not synonymous with freedom. Illogical. How is it "playing the game" when you have to spend the entire session running from groups of kill squads or trolls whose only pleasure in the game is hounding and harassing folks? That's not playing the game, that's willfully signing up to be a victim. That said, this is the initial iteration of the online beta, and I doubt that this is anywhere near the finished product. As opposed to playing like a bloodthirsty Neanderthal incapable of complex thoughts outside of "KILL"? Grouping up with a posse to harass and troll solo players takes no skill, talent or ability, whatsoever. If I wanted to play "The Purge" online, then that's what I'd play. What your are advocating is complete and total lawless anarchy. If that's what works for you, personally, then that's fine, but that's not what was advertised when people purchased this game. There's nothing "legit" about the way PvP is currently structured in the beta at the moment. You can call it "legit" PvP, but it's essentially the "normie" PvP with auto aim and persistent radar identification and location of other players. It takes no skill or talent at all right now. If this is what you want, to keep it the way it is and have R* ignore the "whiners" and "normies", then you're basically advocating for "god mode" PvP, which is preposterous in a game that has an immersive single player mode bogged down in tedious levels of realism. The switch to an online mode with pervasive PvP that make it impossible for folks to have a choice at all is preposterous, lazy, and will kill off any audience outside "1337 wtfpewpewgitgudnormienoob" players. Why are your rights more important than the rights of players who don't want to be forced to endure being trolled/griefed because they're forced into playing persistent PvP?

Ehm... What? - So you are one of those actually finding it fun to spawn kill everyone moving? I agree with the poster of this. - The biggest problem is all the GTA Snotnoses running around ruining it for everyone!

Very long rant ahead 😂 First let me start by saying I love the game. Single player isn’t lacking stuff to do and online is honestly a lot better than I expected but honestly I’ll tell ya my 2 biggest issues with RDO. Trolls. And lack of good paying jobs. I completely understand that the game is meant for you have a posse and run around like a boss but it gets annoying quick when I’m trying to go into a town to do a mission and there’s a posse just camping there by the mission waiting to kill me everytime I try to come up to it so I just get killed over and over again. Also one of the free roam games is called archery master or something like that and the whole point is to run around shooting these targets with your bow and arrow and you get points by accuracy and distance from target. The game has nothing to do with killing eachother yet everytime I play it there’s like 30 players doing it and maybe 5 people are playing the game. The other 25 are running around with shotguns like it’s a deathmatch just killing everyone and it’s really really annoying. There’s literally a death match mode for that so wtf. Then not only that but I deal with that for the 10-15 minutes the game lasts and all I get is 1 gold nugget and like a dollar 50🙄 which brings me to my next point. The lack of good money/gold. Just like gta online the prices of everything are outrageous and the pay for games and missions are at the minimum forcing me to do one of 2 things. Either use real money and do microtransactions once those are available or quit my job so I can play the game 40 hours a week for weeks on end so I can buy a damn hat or something. I’m all for working for the money I don’t want it handed to me in one mission. BUT I shouldn’t have to no life for 3 days just to make 100 bucks and that won’t even buy me anything except food and ammo..

Oh and go on the defense and kill them first? Hmmm wow I would’ve never thought of that! What a great idea cuz you can totally kill 3 guys and get to the mission start point before they respawn and come back! Wow I must be an idiot for not thinking of that before! Why don’t you try it and come back and tell me how it works out for you. Id bet money you get 2 of 3 down and then those will have respawned by time you get the 3rd down then your in the same predicament that you were before you started. And MAYBE I’m bored with single player. I have a million dollars and nothing else to buy or unlock so I’m sorry I enjoy the idea of creating a character and actually having sh*t to work for and unlock now! But hey guys I guess all of us that are like me and hate trolls have to stop playing cuz this dudes obviously from R* and has all the answers and he says not to play the game anymore if we don’t like the idiots that aren’t even playing right.

Wait until you see me careening around on my donkey.

Hahaha I get it, @Saltyballs. I'd totally hit that. (Arthur, not Uncle) 🤣🤣🤣

Whoa, there, Speed Racer! Some of us are only on Chapter 2 (47%).

Xbox is superior.. i rest my case lol

On the "Kill 5 Birds from a Moving Train" Challenge in sharpshooter, I have a practical solution; O'Driscolls and Lemyone Raiders routinely rob trains either south of Valentine or West of Saint Denis (South of Rhodes). Kill the robbers, and BOOM--free empty train that you can drive up and down the tracks with out worrying about bounties. That's how I did it--south of Rhodes, so there were TONS of birds in the air around that swamp.

I don't get how some people don't understand why people don't want to engage with hostile players all the time. A posse of hostile players is going to prevent the people they attack from doing 'everything'. Even If the the player(s) who get attacked defend themselves and kill the hostile trolls. Some hostile players even get angry when they get killed.. So that just makes them keep coming back for more. And the cycle never ends...lol The only option ends up being finding a new session.

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Done. And I will encourage those I play with to contact them also. I really hope we can get something done. I really like what this game has to offer so far--except for getting killed for minding my own business.

I have just sent a DM to Dan Dawkins few mins ago.

Only Rockstar knows mate... But, i think for now.. There will be some time before they actually reset stuff, and do updates. I think today will be the big test, as everyone with a copy of RDR2 can play online.. Im guessing things will be pretty hectic server wise. As noted by Rockstar Games in a BETA Launch post, which explains all there is to know about the Early Access period, the studio hopes "that all player progress during this early period of the beta will be able to remain intact long term".

Yes you can. After hitting Left arrow on Contoller (PS4), then scroll down from PLAYERS to ONLINE. There you can switch voice chat to; Everyone, Friends Only, Crew Only, Posse Only.

It is important to keep in mind that it is beta and Rockstar has a feedback link at: https://www.rockstargames.com/reddeadredemption2/online/feedback The more people comment on something, the higher chance it will be changed. Certainly at the moment it feels a bit rough. But Clay, the horse thief, says that he will buy horses off you when they are "up and running". I would also hope that robbing stores and NPCs will come in to play. Because it is beta and therefore limited, this may explain why it feels rough right now. It may not, maybe they really are setting it up to be "Hey, everything's crap unless you buy gold." I would like to think that is not the case, however. Also: Birds. Condors, Herons, Turkey Vultures. Shoot everything that flies. Sell the feathers.

I'd like to know why none of the well known magazines and gaming sites don't ever really take game companies like Rockstar to task. You know, like make an actual big deal about it and call it for what it is: False Advertising! A few reported on it (briefly) but they are supposed to be independant, yet there is too much of a simbiotic relationship there. They are pathetic and this "don't bite the hand that feeds you" attitude has already corrupted many Youtubers. I'm just so sick of the lies of this industry. They build the hype of these mid gen 4k/hdr consoles, which many of us bought. We also bought expensive Tvs, then they put "hdr" on the game box, and straight up fake it. Sony and Microsoft should be enforcing some quality control, as they have the power to do so, but they don't. On the Xbox Ones Reviews sections, games like Fallout 76, Soul Calibur 6 (network doesnt work. You cant even play online!), fallout 4 (4k update destroyed the fps; bethesda wont fix it), there are NUMEROUS reviews begging for MS to do something. Thats not to mention various graphical downgrades, lootboxes in games, etc that they've done jack sh*t to try to make their ecosystem better. It's just gotten really bad.

hey Id be interested. I sent friend requests from j_helix93 👍🏽

I really hate the always on, forced PvP. If we are not given some option to avoid it, then I won't be playing it for long most likely. I also hate the radar maps showing your location to people in other states. You should only see folks that your character would be aware of.

I don't care when a game I consider bad encourages griefing. It's only when one that I really like does it. I'm hoping that by the time this gets out of beta there will be servers or some other accommodation for those who don't wish to be harassed while enjoying this game.

This right here happened to me as well.. I dont mind PVP, but I want to PVP on my own time, not when im Hunting and skinning for Pelts. Why do I have to stop what Im doing and waste a hour to PVP people who I didnt engage?? I ended up killing the group way more than they killed me, but they ruined my hunting time. Im trying to get be ahead of the curve when it comes to crafting items once Online is out of beta.

not one thing about ps4 pro resolutin chamge or fix what a godamn shame

The only people ruining the game are those whose only idea of fun is exploiting the spawn mechanics.

Completely agree with OP. I was trying to do the wolf quest and was outgunned by this camper. I would spawn and he's right there shooting me before I can do anything. There should be times, zones or moments during quests or when crafting where you can't get attacked or spawn killed constantly because it's just going to put people off.

Sounds like something I would do once in a while, but we're definitely in the minority there. Most people just use it to troll. There's no way to ignore that fact.

Okay. Translation: "My experience will be ruined if they listen to feedback". Translation: "My rights! MY RIGHTS!!!" What about the rights of others? Being constantly killed by a group of people when you are just trying to enjoy the online mode will do more to "kill all incentive to do missions or hunt or whatever" than having passive mode enabled. Enabling passive mode in a PvP environment literally would remove the ability to be griefed, that's it. So unless you're advocating for the ability to grief people, there's no reason to argue against passive mode. And don't feed me your recycled line about "enjoying having to watch my back"--it's disingenuous. Nobody is forcing you, personally, to enable passive mode, so having it available in a PvP setting literally does nothing to your personal experience with the game. Everything you're advocating is about enabling elitist trolling behavior, and no amount of spin or linguistic window dressing is going to change that. "forced upon" you, like a victim? Nobody is ignoring your point, we're just calling out the logical fallacies within your arguments, and the contradictory nature of everything you've said. And claiming to be "ignored" is a classic victim move. So now, you claim to be a victim of being misunderstood or misinterpreted? Ooooh, and yet another "normie" blast, (while calling it "dumb" to boot) and is that another victim statement, implying you'd become a victim of an uneven playing field if people could be passive? Oh, and is that another "watching their backs" reference? Your argument fails on multiple levels. Again, selective passive mode does nothing to impugn your enjoyment of having to "watch your back" if you opt to not activate that feature. There's no reason the two can't be on the same server, unless you're advocating for the ability to indiscriminately kill other players whenever you choose. You're beating around the bush and refusing to acknowledge your elitist desires. You want the prestige and glamour of ranking up on a full-pvp server so you can say, with pride, "I'm 1337 wtfpewpewgitgudnoob" Certified!!!! That's literally the only other reason to advocate your position, if, as you claim, it's not about being able to indiscriminately murder whomever you want whenever you'd like.

Then stop complaining about those who want anything else than JUST PvP experience! - It sounds like the only reason you dont approve this, is because it takes the FUN away from you, since you sound alot like a griefer!

There needs to be a heavy bounty for murder or jail time if they don't have money to pay the bounty. This would force the trolls to actually have to play missions to come up with money to pay their bounties. It is so tiring hearing "I enjoy being chased, pvp honor, it's fun to have to watch your back....blah blah blah..." There is nothing wrong with a some of that in a mixed balanced game. I don't want the game nerfed, I just want people who exist online to stop others from playing to be controlled. Imagine an NFL game where the teams kept trying to kick the ball every down.... Silly right?

Good luck with your recruiting! 😁

I might ruin the cat train but at least this kitty has come claws! Well, not so much a kitty as a crazy nightmare guy...

I spew explicative laced tirades at them all the time. Especially during poker. Then I stand up, manually save my game, and go full OJ on them.

I agree, partner. Wouldn’t have it any other way. I usually add a shirt and pants as well, but I’m a rebel.

Side quests and mini games add to the game though... Sorry if that came across as me being angry, I really wouldn't care at all. I just don't think it's important. But to be fair, I also don't care for cosmetics in games (for the most part). Just fluff content that serves no real purpose. Some customization is fine, but I don't care to spend hours creating my character. I want to play the game, so I often use the defaults. That was one of my first clips on xbox. I was just driving around trying to find a place to bring her and parked on the train tracks. That forced the train to stop and the conductor watched us the whole time. I thought it was hilarious!