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Thats me on the horse, and three buddies I play with.

I think you're right. It is all about Online now and the people attracted to that are so dim, you could feed them a turd and they would love it. I'm definitely not wasting any more of my time on this.

Your own words betray you based on the preponderance of the evidence: Not using "normie" but the equivalent. You can lie to me and lie to yourself, but the truth will set you free.

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After spending a few (frustrating)hours online, here's what I think needs to be addressed: - no private lobbies available - player icons should not be lit all the time, just breeds trolls and man was there alot of trolls - you lose all pelts on your horse if you die, makes no sense, unless the horse was attacked also - There needs to be a heavy penalty/bounty for killing other players/horses (LIKE R* promised) - Players should not be able to be attacked while in an animation (skinning etc..) or they need to add a way break an animation if you see someone approaching. People sit back and wait for you to start skinning an animal and then kill you or lasso you - Passive mode????? - From what I've seen, there isn't a way to sell valuables. - You can't set up camps anywhere you want, only set locations. (and they charge you a buck each time)

Yea you know I think that’s really my issue with trolls. They’re chicken shits they camp out around mission start points hiding behind sh*t waiting for you or they do like you day and wait till they can shoot you in the back when they know you can’t do anything back to them real quick or they wait for you to go afk while getting a drink or somthing then come kill you. They don’t face you head on cuz they’re too scared and know they’ll lose

So essentially what your telling me is that those of us that want to play the game the right way and actually play the mini games the way they were intended to be played should just get off and never play again cuz we don’t like the **** offs that are just there to be a di*k? So you want me to just play single player cuz I play the game right and I’m respectful of players that are just minding their own business but it’s totally alright for the ****in idiots to just keep on playing cuz they’re just doing a wonderful job?

Does Fornite have horses with shrinking balls? I didn't think so.

Yeah it's tiresome. If only there was some way to punish trolls? Flogging sounds good.

You do know that there's CO OP missions in this game. That have ZERO PVP in it.

I've been just about managing the cash so far - I've upgraded my camp, modified some guns, and always enough food. My tips: 1) Having ultimate edition, with free varmint rifle and horse really, really helps. Sorry. 2) Unlocking ranks gives treasure map rewards. Always worth doing. Rank up as quick as you can by doing stuff. 3) Loot every structure of cans of food and tonics. You also sometimes find jewels to sell to fence. 4) Whenever travelling (fast travel costs, only do when necessary), shoot and pick and loot everything as you go - don't worry about pelts (you'll never get them to the butcher), just get feathers, meat, talons etc - these you keep in satchel. This is the most sure fire way of getting dosh - but it takes time. I can spend a few hours doing this to get any real dosh. But it's surefire. 5) Clear bandit hideouts - then loot everyone. Usually worth it. 6) Loot bodies as you do missions.

I totally understand the frustration with the archery thing. Same with a number of other game modes where the objective is to capture a place, hold a place, use only certain weapons, or shoot targets or whatever - regardless more than half the group just run around shooting everyone - making the game mode entirely pointless! I've even had people just ignore stuff on story missions and try to wreck them. Why troll a story mission? I think we have to admit that most people who play games are imbeciles and that games should be designed with that in mind.

Pretty much everything will be solved by time m8. Its fresh start of beta 😉 once trolls have bounty on their heads for killing you for no reason and people/law will hunt them down it will be OK. Btw you only see enemies on minimap for a certain period od time (when you character sees them physically/ when there is shooting etc.). They can hide behind or inside a building and u don't see them anymore. Btw i think those deadmatches will be much better when people get other weapons like scope rifles/shotguns etc. But after all classic deathmatch is only 1 mode out of like 10 others so. I really like that team deathmatch when you get points according to weapon used 1 for repeater/7 for tomahawk etc.)

just registered to comment here. feel so disappointed, got mislead by the online review that ps4 pro is closer to xbox one x version in terms of graphics. obviously, i played a few days of the ps4 pro one, my eyes are blurry, i can't continue. Is there a way to force the game run at 1080p on ps4 pro on a 4k tv? by setting ps4 pro resolution to 1080p?? Rockstars, i am really disappointed , I won't buy game from you anymore.

This is exactly what I am talking about. Thank you

First thing that popped into my head, and my 3rd favorite Christmas movie.

My Husband & I have been trying to do the side missions and level up and save money to buy a bow for the main mission, It seems though we stay off the main roads, stay away from people that a lot of the players will literally go out of there way to just come and shoot us. We then get into a Killing spree back and forth until some one parleys. This takes a lot of hours out of our game play, we work, we have maybe 2-5 hours per day of game play... The last thing I want to do when I get home from dealing with people all day,... is have to get home and deal with the Snot nosed Murderous Children who clearly only play the game to ruin every ones day by random acts of unnecessary PvP violence! It takes precious time out of our doing missions to have to constantly stop and defend ourselves from random kiddies who constantly PvP you, everything from just riding by and the shoot you on the way by, to tracking you way out in the wilds and attacking you. This PvP is out of hand, It's passe, and with all the PvP games out there and e-sport battle Royales, PvP no longer has a relevant place in open World games... Specially when the game is based on PvE content. PvP & PvE should always be separated on their respective servers. I do not see the point of Rockstar bringing out another GTA5 style of open world game. RDR2O is basically that, GTA5 only set in the 1800's.... Back to the top of this post. Again my Husband & I are doing the main story missions and side quest, Though we can do PvP, and will kill our attacker over, and over, and over, and over...well you get the point, THAT disrupts our game play and time. There should be a way to turn PvP completely off. Another irritating factor is some of the side missions do AGAIN the GTA5 B.S. of trying to bring a mission in and it actually promotes other players to PvP and stop you!! On top of all the NPC coming after you! That Cow Stuffing needs to be taken out of the game!! Thanks for reading

Fixed. Anarchy is not synonymous with freedom. Illogical. How is it "playing the game" when you have to spend the entire session running from groups of kill squads or trolls whose only pleasure in the game is hounding and harassing folks? That's not playing the game, that's willfully signing up to be a victim. That said, this is the initial iteration of the online beta, and I doubt that this is anywhere near the finished product. As opposed to playing like a bloodthirsty Neanderthal incapable of complex thoughts outside of "KILL"? Grouping up with a posse to harass and troll solo players takes no skill, talent or ability, whatsoever. If I wanted to play "The Purge" online, then that's what I'd play. What your are advocating is complete and total lawless anarchy. If that's what works for you, personally, then that's fine, but that's not what was advertised when people purchased this game. There's nothing "legit" about the way PvP is currently structured in the beta at the moment. You can call it "legit" PvP, but it's essentially the "normie" PvP with auto aim and persistent radar identification and location of other players. It takes no skill or talent at all right now. If this is what you want, to keep it the way it is and have R* ignore the "whiners" and "normies", then you're basically advocating for "god mode" PvP, which is preposterous in a game that has an immersive single player mode bogged down in tedious levels of realism. The switch to an online mode with pervasive PvP that make it impossible for folks to have a choice at all is preposterous, lazy, and will kill off any audience outside "1337 wtfpewpewgitgudnormienoob" players. Why are your rights more important than the rights of players who don't want to be forced to endure being trolled/griefed because they're forced into playing persistent PvP?

Ehm... What? - So you are one of those actually finding it fun to spawn kill everyone moving? I agree with the poster of this. - The biggest problem is all the GTA Snotnoses running around ruining it for everyone!

Currently, there appear to be no rewards for killing other players like this in free roam mode. Other than bragging rights. And maybe you can earn experience points in this situation. But I'm not sure. In Showdown Event series you do get rewards for killing other players. You might get rewards if a mission has you fight other players. I'm not sure if you can loot people in those modes or not. This article talks about Parleys and Fueds. Which says it gets triggered after killing the same person, or you get killed by the same person, after the 4th time. https://www.polygon.com/red-dead-online-guide/2018/11/27/18115026/rdr2-parley-feud-griefing I've noticed that too, about horses. It's the Beta. So things could change when final version goes live.

That could have been from your map, if you found the treasure for it (just guessing it's a treasure map where you have to find the treasure in freeroam). I found one of those treasures and I think it gave me 100 (or close to it) gold nuggets. I think some of the online "challenges" or whatever they're called (e.g. get 10, 50, 100, etc kills with a certain weapon) might give nuggets too, but I'm not entirely certain, usually have those pop up when I'm too busy shooting and trying to stay alive, so it's likely they just give XP.

Wait until you see me careening around on my donkey.

Whoa, there, Speed Racer! Some of us are only on Chapter 2 (47%).

Xbox is superior.. i rest my case lol

I don't get how some people don't understand why people don't want to engage with hostile players all the time. A posse of hostile players is going to prevent the people they attack from doing 'everything'. Even If the the player(s) who get attacked defend themselves and kill the hostile trolls. Some hostile players even get angry when they get killed.. So that just makes them keep coming back for more. And the cycle never ends...lol The only option ends up being finding a new session.

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Meh.. I think auto aim should stay if thats what people enjoy using. But, they sure as hell need to add a free aim mode. And a friendly mode for pve. This makes everyone happy. (Unless someone wants to force pvp and auto aim on all players). I use free aim. But currently.. I have had plenty of times where i need to swap to Auto Aim just to deal with players. It drives me bonkers. I have to look and spot targets and then aim. While these little trolls are running at me at full speed, sometimes on a horse and just spammin LT and landing shots. So i end up having to go to settings, swap to auto aim.. Fight back. Then when its done i have to switch back to free aim. For me.. As far as Free Aim goes. I don't care about skill as much as i care about not getting shot with ease. Even the damn lasso has auto aim.. Why?..lol

Done. And I will encourage those I play with to contact them also. I really hope we can get something done. I really like what this game has to offer so far--except for getting killed for minding my own business.

I have just sent a DM to Dan Dawkins few mins ago.

Had damn near 2 hours in a single race lobby, clawing after that Real Deal trophy (MVP 3 times) and at one point, there were 2 players who were clearly cheesing the game by rubberbanding their controllers to ride in a circle to stay "active" so they can farm free/easy gold nuggets since completing a race automatically gives you 1 and at least $1 cash. Normally I wouldn't care, hell, extra padding to the player count so there's for sure more than 4 players for the trophy, but when the game starts you immediately behind these guys, your horse gets injured right off the hop because they're unavoidable. Not to mention, certain lap races have you passing them, still circling in the middle and right on the finish line. I did my best to vote to kick both (Sadly if there's more than one, you can only vote to kick one). The first one got 2 votes so he left willingly, but the last guy managed to stay in for well over an hour. After every race, I was the first one to vote to kick him. Eventually others started catching on and were voting too. We finally got enough votes to kick him... BUT HE STAYED IN SOMEHOW. It needed 5 votes, we hit 5/5 votes to kick, then it switched to 1/5 votes when a 6th player voted. I didn't see his avatar in the lineup, so I thought we did it but sure as hell, he's at the starting line in game, spinning in a circle! I finally got my 3rd win/MVP, so I JOYFULLY left - but the trophy didn't pop... My stats confirm I have 3 race wins. I recall being named MVP 3 times (over 2-3 days) Frustrated is an understatement...

This is really long just warning 😂 I Haven’t really noticed any differences there was once or twice the game got a little laggy like my frame rate was a little slow while I was turning while riding my horse fast but that could’ve been my internet. Honestly I’ll tell ya my 2 biggest issues with RDO. Trolls. And lack of good paying jobs. I completely understand that the game is meant for you have a posse and run around like a boss but it gets annoying quick when I’m trying to go into a town to do a mission and there’s a posse just camping there by the mission waiting to kill me everytime I try to come up to it so I just get killed over and over again. Also one of the free roam games is called archery master or something like that and the whole point is to run around shooting these targets with your bow and arrow and you get points by accuracy and distance from target. The game has nothing to do with killing eachother yet everytime I play it there’s like 30 players doing it and maybe 5 people are playing the game. The other 25 are running around with shotguns like it’s a deathmatch just killing everyone and it’s really really annoying. There’s literally a death match mode for that so wtf. Then not only that but I deal with that for the 10-15 minutes the game lasts and all I get is 1 gold nugget and like a dollar 50🙄 which brings me to my next point. The lack of good money/gold. Just like gta online the prices of everything are outrageous and the pay for games and missions are at the minimum forcing me to do one of 2 things. Either use real money and do microtransactions once those are available or quit my job so I can play the game 40 hours a week for weeks on end so I can buy a damn hat or something. I’m all for working for the money I don’t want it handed to me in one mission. BUT I shouldn’t have to no life for 3 days just to make 100 bucks and that won’t even buy me anything except food and ammo..

I did full honourable, ended after Fort Mercer. I rerolled ( I didn't like the way my character looked ) and this time, I have run with folks who actually vote to be dishonourable (Woo!) so getting different missions. Will see if it goes further but my guess at this point would be that's the end of what is in this beta build.

It is important to keep in mind that it is beta and Rockstar has a feedback link at: https://www.rockstargames.com/reddeadredemption2/online/feedback The more people comment on something, the higher chance it will be changed. Certainly at the moment it feels a bit rough. But Clay, the horse thief, says that he will buy horses off you when they are "up and running". I would also hope that robbing stores and NPCs will come in to play. Because it is beta and therefore limited, this may explain why it feels rough right now. It may not, maybe they really are setting it up to be "Hey, everything's crap unless you buy gold." I would like to think that is not the case, however. Also: Birds. Condors, Herons, Turkey Vultures. Shoot everything that flies. Sell the feathers.

I'd like to know why none of the well known magazines and gaming sites don't ever really take game companies like Rockstar to task. You know, like make an actual big deal about it and call it for what it is: False Advertising! A few reported on it (briefly) but they are supposed to be independant, yet there is too much of a simbiotic relationship there. They are pathetic and this "don't bite the hand that feeds you" attitude has already corrupted many Youtubers. I'm just so sick of the lies of this industry. They build the hype of these mid gen 4k/hdr consoles, which many of us bought. We also bought expensive Tvs, then they put "hdr" on the game box, and straight up fake it. Sony and Microsoft should be enforcing some quality control, as they have the power to do so, but they don't. On the Xbox Ones Reviews sections, games like Fallout 76, Soul Calibur 6 (network doesnt work. You cant even play online!), fallout 4 (4k update destroyed the fps; bethesda wont fix it), there are NUMEROUS reviews begging for MS to do something. Thats not to mention various graphical downgrades, lootboxes in games, etc that they've done jack sh*t to try to make their ecosystem better. It's just gotten really bad.

Same problem like you and due at the Same cause but in ps4, I turned off it while creating the carácter, if you find the solution let me know how resolve it please. If i found first i let you know.

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Not bad! Thought I'd make myself a lady after all the hours I've spent watching Arthur's backside.

Man this pissed me off so bad yesterday because some kid was doing this to me, that I stopped hunting and murdered him over and over until he finally left the server. THEY HAVE TO FIX THIS ASAP!

The big issue is that R* tries to blend coop and PvP together in public sessions without restrictions. Those who like to play cooperatively, engage in the activities, grind for cash, etc. simply become the prey for those who make it their life mission to kill other players. Trolls are at an advantage here. ....and I say "trolls" as there really is no benefit or reason to hunting down and randomly killing other players in this game. They do it out of simple enjoyment. .....to cause grief.

Totally agree with you there @Madrigalian. Example of just useless Grieffing, I was selling my hide trying to get some money for a bow, as soon as I popped out of the shop a random PvP'er lassoed me tied me up put me on his horse, took me out of town, and then shot me in the head! It would be nice to have a system that PvE'ers can flag and stay passivist mode and not be bothered by the PvP'ers, and vise Versa. Those that PvP can flag for it and go after other PvP'ers. It's an easy system to put into a game... at the start of your session you choose what mode you wish to play, your stuck in that mode until you log off.

I would encourage you to submit your feedback to R* about trolling. I have. https://www.rockstargames.com/reddeadredemption2/online/feedback?step=addb2b0b Now is the time that they really listen to the community and if folks want to see certain things improved, added, removed, etc., submit your feedback. Get your voices heard. It's fine and dandy to vent here but this is just a fan site. .....not an official R* forum.

Then stop complaining about those who want anything else than JUST PvP experience! - It sounds like the only reason you dont approve this, is because it takes the FUN away from you, since you sound alot like a griefer!

You seem to think this game is all about grinding.. While its just one aspect of the game Myself and friend where just hunting yesterday to stock up on food. In comes a four person posse and starts killing us. So we started killing them back. Basically we slaughtered each other over and over again, for over an hour. We actually tried to leave the area after 20 mins, but they killed our horses. After out horses got merked we decided to just keep killing them. Now.. we actually enjoy killing players (hate the auto aim tho).. But we stuck around for that one hour battle. People who don't care for pvp would probably have had to quit the lobby. Forcing pvp on to players who have no interest in it... isn't fun for non pvp folks.

There needs to be a heavy bounty for murder or jail time if they don't have money to pay the bounty. This would force the trolls to actually have to play missions to come up with money to pay their bounties. It is so tiring hearing "I enjoy being chased, pvp honor, it's fun to have to watch your back....blah blah blah..." There is nothing wrong with a some of that in a mixed balanced game. I don't want the game nerfed, I just want people who exist online to stop others from playing to be controlled. Imagine an NFL game where the teams kept trying to kick the ball every down.... Silly right?

when you kill someone, player or NPC, the game aknowledges that you commited "murder" but there is no benefit or repurcusions to this most of the time as even getting a "bounty" goes away as soon as you die (an unpunished death). i suggest either a passive (pve) server or private rooms where its only open to invite and friends. (i believe GTAo has this fearure). there are hundreds of games to play if you just want to shoot people and have it mean absolutly nothing. as it stands now the whole map is just one big death match game. i agree with the others when i say i wont be playing if it continues to be nothing more than "CoD cowboys". an intersting idea might be to be able to place bounties (like GTA) or a jail system where basically you cant play cause your toon is in jail for "x" hours because you got caught being a dickhead. while i know execution of these systems is complex and takes time. this is a beta so maybe if we continue to put our thoughts out there rockstar will make attempts to move away from grief supporting systems to a system that punishes players who just want to slow progress of others for thier own enjoyment. remember this is a BETA. the dual purposes being, to figure out what is broken and get feedback as to what people play and how. i think amongst adults (the people with money to buy the game) we want a western adventure with our friends far more than we want to "compete' against people we dont know. these are just my thoughts on this topic. agree or dont and go ahead and post thats what betas are for.

Definitely 80s music.

Good luck with your recruiting! 😁

I agree, partner. Wouldn’t have it any other way. I usually add a shirt and pants as well, but I’m a rebel.

Side quests and mini games add to the game though... Sorry if that came across as me being angry, I really wouldn't care at all. I just don't think it's important. But to be fair, I also don't care for cosmetics in games (for the most part). Just fluff content that serves no real purpose. Some customization is fine, but I don't care to spend hours creating my character. I want to play the game, so I often use the defaults. That was one of my first clips on xbox. I was just driving around trying to find a place to bring her and parked on the train tracks. That forced the train to stop and the conductor watched us the whole time. I thought it was hilarious!

I read the title and thought this for an adult film title. lol Yeah we really don't need any aspects of sex aside from general passing ones that don't show much. Thing bj's in a car like GTA. That is more a less there for humor than anything and I am okay with that but if we get to a point where this is like the Sims is now and everyone can hook up with everything and be on full display... It would ruin it for me.