YodaMan 3D

This is kind of awesome. To bad more players don't do this, he could help PvP and PvE alike.

Dude, I'm saying the suggestion doesn't need tweaks. What I am saying is some Asshat shouldn't be allowed to run players off because he is an Asshat. If this game gets the same treatment that the GTAO got, it pushes players away. I get it you in all your wisdom assume that is the greatest thing in the world when players stop playing a game. My suggestion is there are ways that Rockstar can deal with griefing without telling part of it's playerbase to FU! Your concern for the griefers who ruin the game is more important then those who want to play the game. I understand the need to protect the PvP in a PvEvP freeroam. I don't see doing it at the expense of the other half of your playerbase. Other lobbies separates your playerbase, so at some point your players leave or they refuse to game as originally designed. They don't or won't participate in PvEvP freeroam, cause the company won't address the issue. They slap a band-aid on it and ignore the problem cause not as many complain. You really need to look at what they did to GTAO. Did they do anything to bring players together? Hell to the No. They created lobby options and some point put missions in the PvEvP that PvE players just wouldn't do. So they punished part of the player base, cause they wouldn't fix the issue. They never ever did anything to fix it, if anything they endorsed it and added more griefing tools. So as I have said before lobbies are a band-aid, they will be temporary fixes at best. The Rockstar will punish those who don't play in the PvEvP lobby. So as much as your band-aid fix will appease players, it will be for a short time. If Rockstar is true to their word and really want to fix it. They need to actually fix griefing without destroying PvP. At this point for you and I think in these forums, we should just avoid these conversations. I want a fix. You want a great big Snoopy Band-Aid, which drives players away from the game. Game companies can fix griefing, but they have actually try and not ignore it. Which is currently being done in all PvEvP games.

So if you use Auto-Aim you only get 25% xp. hahahaha. I can hear the crickets as players leave the game.

And when you killed you got bounties, where lawmen, bounty hunters, or even rival gangs would hunt you down and massacre you. Now if they used that against griefers. Yeah maybe you get to kill a player a few times, but then they could then grief you by having a bounty put on you instead of parley where you get harrassed by NPCs till dead or you escape the region and go pay off your bounty. If they fight back, then it would automaticly removes the option to call for a bounty. There are options for stopping griefing other then run away, leave the game, or change lobbies. As I have stated before, separate lobbies don't remove them from the game. Lobbies are just a band-aid. They don't fix the issue at hand, which is griefing. Or they could punish players by locking some missions in the public lobby, which they did in GTAO. Now Rockstar has claimed that they know griefing is a issue and they are making plans to actually deal with it. Rumors are that they planning to do the same as GTAO. Which many didn't feel was a fix.

Some families share everything.

The campaign had a FFA feel. It also had rules. Online could use those same rules and all players involved would be ok with it. They already played by those rules. So you can't really say it doesn't work or it would ruin it for me. You may not like it and I'm sure there could be adjustments that would make it better for all parties without ruining it for everyone. Currently Griefers are able to do anything and a large part of your player base isn't liking it. Some have threatened if not already left the game. Considering how they have done separate lobbies, I would be highly concerned that they would continue their old ways and punish players for playing the friendlier lobbies. I personally feel that is a slap in the face. I said it before and say it again. Rockstar doesn't want us in separate lobbies. They want us all in one, it is the standard for these type of games. Reward PvP and Griefers, punish PvE. Meanwhile Griefers continue to ruin the game overall.

I don't know if they still do it, but some companies used to hire people to surf the internet and follow the forums and what not. Just so companies would know what was actually being said. I imagine that you could have computer programs do that now.

They are probably making minimum wage. You can't expect them t There isn't, but then again I have blocked players when I played The Division and then would see them still on later. Not sure it worked.

I am joking. No you didn't spoil it for me. Edit: Just to be funny, sometimes I do go into a thread that states SPOILER and freak out like they told everyone a big secret.

With the whole freeroam sadbox, they don't want to put anything down on paper and make it a solid statement. Cause what if they decide to change it or add new stuff. They don't want us to have a clue.. They want us to search and explore the whole world, and then watch 3 hours of YouTube to discover what we didn't know.

Spoiler Alert! Oh great, I can't un-see this now. They game is ruined. Won't be able to log in, load up, and continue online now. hehehehe

With poor managing and pressure to impress shareholders. Software companies have been pushing incomplete software for a while, promising that they said out updates and make everything "OK" down the road. I have PC gaming friends who have stated this is how it has been on PC games since forever and most of them is completely ok with it and feel it is acceptable. I have asked them if they would be willing to by a car or a house that was incomplete with a promise that it will be finished once we figure out how later on. Everytime I here "unacceptable". Why is software acceptable and any kind of hardware isn't?

The rumors there are that they are trying to work on "Issues" before releasing anything else. It was unclear what "Issues" are. Rockstar themselves have stated that they are working on issues, but they have also stated this "Beta could take months". Something I don't feel they really have with all of the releases coming out in that time. Good news for Rockstar is that they haven't listened to their player base and sticking to their "PvP DZ as the End Game." Supposedly, stated that there was plenty of "pve end game". Please take a note that the PvP DZ is in caps, while pve is lower cased. Just to show how much respect that Ubisoft or Massive is showing their PvE crowd by listening to them. Which they haven't or won't. So Rockstar has that in their corner if they can improve the PvE wishes, while also keeping the PvP players happy.

No not yet, at least not to my knowledge. Rumors are circling that more lobbies are the plan, but I haven't heard that from any source that I would totally support. It's just rumors. Those rumors are sounding like we get about the same options as we had in GTAO. Again, just rumors and nothing concrete.

Isn't it an option to free aim vs auto aim? If you feel auto aim is a crutch, and prefer free aim then why hold yourself back?

Or as I suggested before, applying the rules used in single player, could be used to curtail griefing. We don't have to be naive enough to say special lobbies are the only fix.

I think their point is that they can go back and play the campaign as if that was the same as online play. It's your basic "Git Gud!" response you see from Toxic PvP players. They seem to think pushing players away is always the best tac. It isn't. I have tried and it never lets me. I have always had to go into the Xbox menu, look them up, and block them there.

Joined up with some randoms, that had a player who had to go to work. So they hogtied him and threw in on the horse. When I asked why, they claimed that as long as his player keeps moving his xbox wouldn't shutdown and they could pass him around from horse to horse and he would still gain xp and money for them from the missions. I couldn't fathom how that worked, but they may have it setup so they can do this succesfully.

Griefing is thrown around because it applies so easily to RDO. Player A is participating and one one thing and Player B comes along and decides that they have to step in and disrupt the fun of the other, cause that is the only way for Player B to have fun. It is part of the thorn in the side of PvEvP format.

When are you guys on? Haven't seen you around lately.

Tells you the time a day. In solo play you supposedly equip it and when you go to the menu, it is suppose to be there for you to tell the time.

Sounds like a glitch to me, but without know all of the circumstances. It would be hard to tell. Inform Rockstar and hope they figure it out.

It really depends on what their end goals are.

Now need for vanity items if I'm not allowed to use them, but the whole disarming myself prior to be armed or my horse working against me and not with me is becoming more of an issue. What's the use of building up a level 4 bond, when I got a better response from it when it was a level 1. This weekend it was just the little issues getting worse that was bugging me. Not enough additions or fixings being done.

I had finally thought this had been fixed. Went several days where, my character kept the outfit on that I had assigned her. Then yesterday, I started a game and she went to back to putting those rags on that she started with. I noticed unless I spammed the equip button, that on the horse she keep putting her weapons away, and everytime I would dismount from the horse, it would take off as if a predator was around. The clothes thing is annoying, start hunting or do a mission or bad guys show up and you put your weapons away is really annoying, worst yet is to dismount during a mission and your stupid character unequips everything and the stupid horse runs off and you have nothing to defend yourself with except a pistol and a knife. Even my settings where I am the only one who can ride my horse has became an illusion. Doing a mission and a player hops on my horse and takes off. Leaving me at the startcause they whistle for their horse and I was stuck there. What could be a fun game, just isn't right now.