Harlock1796

How about a medium-high stakes tournament where you can win a ticket to a very high stakes game on a riverboat?

Woah! I missed being called a bad name! No problem here, and no intention to cause offence. Clearly my 😜 was not enough to flag that up. Just for the record, I am male, despite my female avatar - I made her as a "challenge accepted" on day 1 of the beta when lots of people were saying that it was impossible to make a half-way decent looking female character, and grew attached, especially when it turned out that I would lose all my stuff if I restarted. I am a feminist, though, if that causes any problems. You kinda have to be if you've seen the sorts of shenanigans I've seen (I work in employment law) and have a daughter. Kean, apologies if I've brought disharmony to the board - never meant to.

This. To which I would add, if you're running a multi person crew to deliver the wagon, how much of a threat is one solitary guy anyway? Say he headshots the wagon driver. Fine, kill him, someone else get on the wagon. How many times have you seen a lone fisherman suddenly drop their rod, pull out a bow with a dynamite arrow and actually wreck your delivery?

Hmmm, so speaks someone who doesn't have a wife to try to explain things to. I wish you luck in your quest for a lady who (1) shares your love of hunting and (2) will sit quietly while you rationally mansplain to her the difference between real life and a computer game. 😜 Back on topic, though. I continue to love RDO, but I do find it disappointing that R* haven't implemented some of these little things that were already present in the single player campaign, such as mercy killing. The Code must all be there already.

An exception to the rule that "no good deed goes unpunished". It makes people's heads explode in RDO if you do something nice - simply does not compute.

Absolutely - we need "high buy in - no limit" tables, even if only at e.g. St Denis. As it is, I've given up on the poker for now. $1,000 buy in, no limit would give the high rollers somewhere to go, and make it interesting again, while leaving the low stakes tables for those who want them and will play in that spirit.

I need to get myself a wench winch. Manual loading of wenches is a young man's game.

This is old ground, but for me, it's intent/motivation. Griefers are doing what they do purely (or at least mainly) to get pleasure out of causing someone else misery (or 'grief', if you will), with no significant in game advantage to themself. Compare this to attacking someone else's trader long delivery wagon (see the other long thread on this), whereby, if successful, the attacker gets to steal some of the materials for themself, and the trader has been expressly warned that they are taking a risk. Hopefully any outlaw/villain role will follow that model of only/mainly targeting players who are flagged as 'up for it'. I personally would rather be robbed by someone who's doing it because it's their actual job, than shot in the head on the way to the butcher by someone just because they can/are bored/hope to upset me. I suspect a big element of the role will be PvE in any event, like bounties (and to a certain extent trader) already are.

I think they're messing with you, a bit. You don't need those things to hunt herbs, but using Eagle eye (the dead eye type thing that you can do without a gun) makes finding herbs much easier. Just go stand in a prairie, engage eagle eye, and look for the clouds of glowing dust. Every herb is worth 25c at the doctors - 5 minutes will get you enough for a healthy stock of ammo, and then you're back in business.

Nothing since that long interview a month or so back, which definitely suggested an outlaw role was on the way. I'm not holding my breath - remember how long the last update was trailed for, before it showed up, and we haven't even had a sniff of the next big update yet. If it's here before April I'll be pleasantly surprised.

Now, when I log on to free roam, I feel like there are more things to do than I have time for, so I'm getting to choose from a series of good things. Before the update, I was playing mainly PvP. If I was in free roam, I was making my own fun with games like "Jump the Gator" in which you choose the most skittish horse from your stable and, as the name suggests, ride around jumping over alligators. While that was sort of fun, I don't miss it as my primary activity. What i don't like is the new set of options for PvP - the choices you now get, and the game selection are terrible - If I try showdown, literally 80% of games are Public Enemy. Elimination is all "make it count". For me, by far the best PvP mode was Last Stand (or whatever it was called) - own weapons, one life, first to 2 round wins. That seems to be gone completely. In summary, love the free roam expansion, can't wait for more, but they have properly messed up PvP.

That's cold, man.😱

After a very long day a couple of years ago helping my 14 year old daughter achieve something utterly pointless to everyone except her (7 hours of waiting to get a photo with a minor celebrity) I achieved a minor form of Zen, and nothing much bothers me any more. When you add in my philosophy that everyone's a tosser until they've proved otherwise, people have very little capacity to disappoint or upset me, so I find it easy to let stuff go when someone acts like a complete a$$hole - it's no more or less than I might expect. That said, if some d!ick comes after me in the way they did @Av0lon, I wouldn't be letting it go, either, but that's because its fun. I don't know why, but with RDO I seem to have finally found the online shooter that I am better at than most other people. If I go online on CoD, Battlefield etc, everyone including my 13yr old son hands me me my arse on a plate, but on RDO, at level c170 and fully tricked out with cards and special ammo, I fancy my chances against most people, whether in freeroam or showdowns. It clearly had stopped being fun for Av0lon, for completely understandable reasons - that's a totally unfair fight by anyone's definition, and the right plan there really was to let it go and move on. I'm with you on the dislike for people that do that, but I do think that the Parlay system (except when you're not offered it, for a reason I don't understand) tends to solve most problems. You will always get the odd person who finds a way around it (dynamite arrows, basically) but its usually costing them more (a dollar a shot) than it's costing you to get killed.

Despite the name, 'Parlay' doesn't actually involve any talking - you don't need a mike. You just press the Parlay button, which is (usually, but not always, for some unknown reason) available on the respawn screen, and the person who killed you and their posse are unable to target you for 10 minutes. There are still d!ck moves they can pull, like shooting near you with a dynamite arrow to catch you in the blast, but parlay solves 95% of your problems, after you've been killed once. The thing to remember is that getting killed doesn't actually cost you much in this game - a bit of pride, a bit of rage and a bottle of horse reviver if they've targeted your pony. Whilst this pair sound like a$$holes, you need to let it go. there's nothing reportable in their actions, even if there's nothing commendable, either. I had a Beta flashback the other day - I rode into Valentine, got off my horse at the butcher and was shot in the back of the head without warning. thought I would look up the noob/idiot/griefer who did it, saw that he was level 430+. Really? You'd hope that people would have grown out of it by then. Was I cross? yes. for a couple of minutes. Did I actually lose anything beyond a 30 second loop of respawn and ride back to the butcher? no Did I let it spoil my day? no. Like the cartoon blonde lady says in the song - Let it Go, Let it Go...

I had my first one pop up last night - someone with a $20.70 bounty. However, by the time I tried to look them up (a handful of seconds) they had disappeared - don't know whether they server hopped, or something, rather disappointing, though!

I don't think you're giving it a chance. I have a proper job, a family, a dog to walk, other time consuming hobbies, and I currently have everything I want and need in game, plus RDO$3,500 and 220 gold bars in the bank, and I must have spent another $3,000 on stuff I never use. I did buy the opening offer of half price gold bars, but I never really needed them. You only need to buy gold if you want EVERYTHING! NOW! Otherwise, it all comes in good time. Do some daily challenges to scrape together 15 gold (should be able to do that in 10 days, if you try), buy either collector or trader role, and the $$$s start rolling in.

@JohnDew - If you feel like this now, you would have LOVED the Beta!😱

Thanks for all the replies - I've been running 100 goods distant deliveries solo until now, which carries its own frissant of excitement (had to deploy explosive ammo last night to discourage a lone opportunist), but will try inviting a posse next time, if its not worth them ganking me.

I imagine the horses you will be able to tame aren't generally going to be particularly good performers. Most of the wild horses I've seen have been things like Morgans and Kentucky Saddlers, i.e. beginner level horses. Perfectly good to capture, tame and sell for a few dollars, but not likely to become your new ride. If there is a new horse related role at some point (let's hope) that might give you the opportunity to track and tame better quality horses, in a similar vein to legendary bounties.

Just checking the obvious - on the xbox (so I'm guessing on PC) there are more options on the online menu than you can see at one time. Have you tried scrolling down the menu? There are 2 or 3 further options at the bottom - I think that is where 'change appearance' is. I am wary of inviting a random stranger into my posse to do delivery runs, as I'm not sure why they wouldn't just leave my posse just before the end, and shoot me in the back and steal my stuff. Maybe I'm just being paranoid, and/or the financial reward for them staying in is greater than for betraying me at the end.

I felt pretty well rewarded for grinding through the Beta - they handed out a decent haul of gold bars along the way. Anyway, the fun of playing is its own reward, or something like that.😜

Yes, it does.

Yep, in my experience they come back in a little while. Never timed it, because I don't tend to redo them in the same session, ever, but their definitely always back by the next day.

I think he's talking about just normal free roam - given he's lvl 4 and just trying to ride to the next story mission.

Same. I'm not much of a Parleyer, myself, but in Pluck's situation, (a lvl 4 being griefed by 3 x 150+s for 1.5 hours) I'd have thought the option would have come up, and I might have been inclined to deploy it, by then. I've never actually resorted to changing servers yet, but that would be the other option. Or accept an invite to a freeroam event, for that matter. The point being that you don't just need to spend 1.5 hours being murdered - there are multiple ways to get out of the situation, if you want. I personally haven't got to the point yet of it not being fun - if the going gets tough, load up the explosive rounds and dynamite arrows, and at least take 'em down with you.