Solo Bounty Hunter Griefers!

[The_Liquor]

Well, When I’m on it’s usually just me and the Liquor... so I’m more inclined to just leave people alone unless they’re coming right at me... but if I had a few of the Liquor Snurfs with me, I just might send one out to make sure the buffer is maintained (perhaps a gun goes off, someone gets accidentally shot...). But I also wouldn’t chase someone across the map when they get their cheap revenge kills in... just seems like a waste of time to me.

[Enoch]

4 hours ago, The_Liquor said:

But I also wouldn’t chase someone across the map when they get their cheap revenge kills in... just seems like a waste of time to me.

A bit passive aggressive?

Edited October 21, 2019 by Enoch

[Kean_1]

5 hours ago, Enoch said:

I mean, I was in the middle of nowhere without my horse and just had my revolvers (holstered). Not to mention the fact that there were four of them and one of me, and I was a good 200 yards from their delivery route. But to each their own. I’ll retaliate each and every time 😉

Player blips (unless you're hostility level is higher than normal) only show up on another player's radar when you are within 150 meters (164 yards).  When you see a player on the minimap, they are just seconds away from being able to strike while on horseback.  They can also be within sniper range.  Anything on your minimap is potentially a real and immediate threat.

I'm sorry, but if I'm making a delivery especially one that puts me in Offensive Mode, I'm not taking any chances.  My posse / partner will either try to run you off or attack if you're that close.  Most people simply run in another direction or give us a wide berth (while galloping away) just as we would in the same situation. 

When I encounter someone making a delivery or participating in a side mission that invites attacks we never ride toward, never stop near, never ride parallel, never ride in a heading that may intersect with their path, etc.  Exceptions for me are in towns or other areas that players gather where I might give people the benefit of the doubt but still keep my guard up.  

I've been hit by someone in a similar situation before but chalked it up to being in the wrong place at the wrong time.  I was off my horse near the road with them heading toward me and couldn't distance myself from them in time.  It's no biggie.  I would have done the same as it could have appeared as an ambush.  

The fact is, you don't know for sure if someone is alone or working with others just outside the 150 meter range.  You can't see them but they could be on top of you within seconds. 

When someone is stopped and/or maneuvering slowly, it looks suspect IMO / IME.   Just an unfortunate event is all.

[The_Liquor]

16 hours ago, Enoch said:

A bit passive aggressive?

Well, I prefer it over the active aggressive approach lol. Basically, however it shakes out, for me when the mission is over the killing is over. Once it goes beyond the confines of the event, it becomes pointless again. If someone insists on getting their revenge hits or two, well, so be it. If it become a regular annoyance,  I’ll likely just hop servers.
I generally prefer to avoid long drawn out pointless gun battles because someone else is butt hurt over being in the wrong place at the wrong time and had to be killed to ensure the mission succeeds in those last moments. I mean, I personally have seen the nice guy ploy, and fallen for it, only to be shot in the back of the head before... so when money is on the line, it’s usually better to be safe than sorry.

[Enoch]

3 hours ago, The_Liquor said:

Well, I prefer it over the active aggressive approach lol. Basically, however it shakes out, for me when the mission is over the killing is over. Once it goes beyond the confines of the event, it becomes pointless again. If someone insists on getting their revenge hits or two, well, so be it. If it become a regular annoyance,  I’ll likely just hop servers.
I generally prefer to avoid long drawn out pointless gun battles because someone else is butt hurt over being in the wrong place at the wrong time and had to be killed to ensure the mission succeeds in those last moments. I mean, I personally have seen the nice guy ploy, and fallen for it, only to be shot in the back of the head before... so when money is on the line, it’s usually better to be safe than sorry.

Different perspectives. My posse won’t fire until fired upon.

[Freakshow9191]

1 hour ago, Enoch said:

Different perspectives. My posse won’t fire until fired upon.

What's your posse name?

Planning on delivering a wagon Soon?

Asking for a friend...😜

 

[The_Liquor]

1 hour ago, Enoch said:

Different perspectives. My posse won’t fire until fired upon.

That’s perfectly fine by me. Running solo often, I’ve developed more of a shoot first, apologize later attitude, most especially when it comes to trying to accomplish a task that other players can mess with. Its easier for me to keep my wagon than it is to try and take it back. I also understand this mentality, so I get it when someone  Shoots me when they’re rolling by with a mission that can be interfered with and I’m in the way. I won’t screw with them after they’re done. I might take it as an invite to try and steal their stuff. But like I said, once it’s over and there is no longer anything on the line, the gun fight is over working o me.

[Kean_1]

1 hour ago, Enoch said:

Different perspectives. My posse won’t fire until fired upon.

......which is fine but I wouldn't expect others to follow the same ROE in this scenario nor would I fault them for it.   .....which seems to be the real sticking point here for you I'll wager.

[Enoch]

8 minutes ago, Kean_1 said:

......which is fine but I wouldn't expect others to follow the same ROE in this scenario nor would I fault them for it.   .....which seems to be the real sticking point here for you I'll wager.

Eye for an eye. If you fire upon me or my posse when we did nothing to you, we will make every effort to take the supplies from you when we had no intention of doing so before. 

Edited October 22, 2019 by Enoch

[Kean_1]

4 minutes ago, Enoch said:

Eye for an eye. 

......ok?

[Enoch]

2 minutes ago, Kean_1 said:

......ok?

I added more

[Kean_1]

4 minutes ago, Enoch said:

I added more

I see......   So yeah, I guess that was it then.

Either way, I guess if you were to take action / inaction or to wander so close as to warrant a response, I guess its really a moot point what your intentions were to those only looking to defend their delivery.

[Enoch]

6 minutes ago, Kean_1 said:

I see......   So yeah, I guess that was it then.

Either way, I guess if you were to take action / inaction or to wander so close as to warrant a response, I guess its really a moot point what your intentions were to those only looking to defend their delivery.

If you want to lay down and take it, that’s on you. 

[Kean_1]

3 minutes ago, Enoch said:

If you want to lay down and take it, that’s on you. 

Just because I understand why someone would take preemptive action against me for being too close to their delivery, etc. doesn't mean I won't defend myself or press forward an attack that I otherwise may not have. This was never about that. It's how we view those who do and in my case, I simply don't take actions like that personally.

[Savage_Reaper]

9 minutes ago, Kean_1 said:

Just because I understand why someone would take preemptive action against me for being too close to their delivery, etc. doesn't mean I won't defend myself or press forward an attack that I otherwise may not have. This was never about that. It's how we view those who do and in my case, I simply don't take actions like that personally.

I give other posses the right away if I see they are in a mission. I go out of my way to avoid making them suspicious of my intentions. I have fired on players/posses that ride directly toward you like a bat out of hell with guns out. Sorry, not waiting around to see if you want some salted venison. I watched your blip and you purposely changed direction to head my way. Especially if I have a larger($625) drop. No way am I taking that chance. I'm not entitled and fully expect other players to treat me the same way. This world is big enough where you don't have to get all up in someone's personal space. But I have found some players/posses like to push the limit by getting so close that it causes them to be shot. All so they came scream... "They shot me!!! They shot me!!!!".  Than they always act oh so innocent. Your innocent but I saw you scoping me from the rock. Please. It doesn't happen all the time but 90% of the time I shoot someone on a mission is because they deserved it. Bottom line if you see a posse/player with a $625 load, stay away unless you want to get shot or think you actually can take the wagon. I play with very aggressive people and very passive people, BUT both will shoot  if you come to close during that drop. 

[The_Liquor]

Yeah... I wouldn’t have had a problem with your story at all if it was kept to the confines of the delivery mission. Where you loose me, and in my opinion stray danger close to griefer territory, is when you waited for the mission to be over and started harassing them with explosive ammo.... I don’t really blame them for chasing you across the map and getting all salty. That’s kind of on you for taking the post mission revenge spree...

[Enoch]

Good ol’ fashion payback is considered griefing now. Good to know. I’m done with this thread ✌️

[The_Liquor]

1 hour ago, Enoch said:

Good ol’ fashion payback is considered griefing now. Good to know. I’m done with this thread ✌️

Suit yourself I suppose. But in my mind, killing someone in your path while doing a mission is way lower on the griefer like behaviour scale than killing people with explosive ammo repeatedly after said mission is over... but I do get why you would feel the urge to. I wouldn’t engage in your revenge myself, but there are those who don’t like being killed in that context enough to chase you around. 
 

just to clarify... I’m not calling you a griefer. Just saying your actions could easily be interpreted that way by a group of guys who finished the mission then see you riding up over the ridge shooting at them.

Edited October 22, 2019 by The_Liquor

[zinussan50]

Just sharing some tips, unrelated but useful 

If your horse injured behind enemy's line,  far away or you are inaccessible to go revive, 

open menu》stable 》set another horse as default. 

Now you can whistle that new horse. 

(This method only works if you have another horse in stable)

[The_Liquor]

Yes, I keep another freebie horse tucked away for just such an occasion.