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Title pretty much says it all. 

This thread is for everything Game of Thrones. Theories, rants, memes, and anything in between, please don't hesitate to share! 

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WARNING: Some content maybe considered a spoiler if you are currently not caught up with the episodes and the current season. Please read at your own risk, you have been warned. 

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DJ or whatever they call the people on satellite radio now, said (as best as i can remember it)

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Those freaking Millenials are at it again.  Now they have a petition out on change.org try to petition HBO to remake the final season of GoT.  F*cktards!!  Can we petition to have stupid petitions like that removed?  There's an idea!  Why didn't they petition to have the final season done in the nude, that would have been better!

I liked GoT, but i only watched up until season 6 i think it was, when Daenerys was taking over the desert realm.  Don't think i finished that season before i got bored.

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That petition is ridiculous. It's ultimately the writer's story to tell and we're just along for the ride. Speaking as someone who likes to write, I'm totally open to constructive criticism, but anyone who tries to outright dictate how a story I'm telling unfolds knows where they can go.

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10 hours ago, Parzival said:

That petition is ridiculous. It's ultimately the writer's story to tell and we're just along for the ride. Speaking as someone who likes to write, I'm totally open to constructive criticism, but anyone who tries to outright dictate how a story I'm telling unfolds knows where they can go.

Although I agree the petition is ridiculous, George RR Martin has not written the final book, so the last season was completely led by the producers. They had no story to follow so made it up themselves. 

Season 8 for me has been quite a disappointing way to end what has been an amazing series. The main issue being that they have tried to squeeze a whole season into just 6 episodes and it hasn't worked. All the events took place within the blink of an eye and everything was too rushed. Very unlike the Game of of Thrones we have watched for the past 7 seasons. 

Take season 6 for example and the battle of bastards. We had to endure Ramsay Boltons evil and rapey ways for a whole season before enjoying what was one of the best fight scenes and a very satisfying death for him. 

The build up and the anticipation to these major events is what made GOT so great to watch. Whereas season 8 has had the 2 of the biggest and most major fights in the history of GOT within the space of 2 episodes. 

To me Daenarys was and always will be the hero of the series and I hated the fact they turned her into some mad queen at the end. The whole scenario just made me end up disliking Jon for killing her. 

Where an earth were the Dothraki at the end of the episode? Surely they and the unsullied would be a bit more pissed off that their queen has just been murdered. But no they just sailed off into the sunset. 

Cersei Lannister's death was not befitting to the character. One of the most hated characters from the beginning only to be crushed by a pile a bricks in her lovers arms. 

I think this video says its all, even the cast are disappointed. 

 

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4 minutes ago, debbo89 said:

Although I agree the petition is ridiculous, George RR Martin has not written the final book, so the last season was completely led by the producers. They had no story to follow so made it up themselves.

That just goes back to what I said about it being the writer's story to tell, that writer just wasn't GRRM this time. Making a TV show out of an ongoing book or comic series, especially something that's going to be as expensive a production as GoT, is always risky because the TV show is almost certainly going to end before the original publication, resulting in either unresolved plot points or a show-exclusive conclusion.

I wonder if the producers considered asking GRRM to aid in writing the final season? Or did they do that and he declined?

But the notion that HBO is going to remake the final season is absolutely bonkers, though. I can just imagine the bean counters at HBO, or whatever company owns HBO, looking at that demand and thinking, "Are these people crazy?"

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I'll contribute to this post... watched from day one. Will firmly state it was probably best TV series of all time, just kinda of a weak ending (@ least for some characters)

I can sum up my feelings without spoiling anything.

Show seemed to lose something once they got past the books.  It seemed every action had an eventual consequence until that point, then it all seemed watered down and rushed like they were trying to get to the end quickly without flushing everything/character arcs out.  

My thought is that the last 2 seasons should have been full 10 episode seasons which would have overcome some of the criticism.  I think $'s played a role in some of the decision-making.  Also AT&T bought Time Warner.  IDK if that had something to do with it but again $'s.

 

Also generally say that after the Red Wedding show became too popular and part of "pop culture" every media outlet caught on.   I liked it b4 all the attention when it was raw (probably same reason I like RDR2)

As far as the petitions and complaining I ain't into that.  I'm thankful we got such a great show. People complain about everything nowadays...I complain their ain't nothing on TV worth watching now....so I'll probably be playing more RDO and complaining about the bugs.

 

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On 5/20/2019 at 7:26 AM, Parzival said:

I saw the first episode when it premiered. Didn't click and I never watched it again.

Fair enough, not everyone has interest in that kind of genre.

 

On 5/20/2019 at 3:55 PM, Kormath said:

DJ or whatever they call the people on satellite radio now, said (as best as i can remember it)

I liked GoT, but i only watched up until season 6 i think it was, when Daenerys was taking over the desert realm.  Don't think i finished that season before i got bored.

Some may find the story boring, but that's okay everyone doesn't have the same feelings towards a show. I personally LOVE the story. 

 

On 5/20/2019 at 6:32 PM, Parzival said:

That petition is ridiculous. It's ultimately the writer's story to tell and we're just along for the ride. Speaking as someone who likes to write, I'm totally open to constructive criticism, but anyone who tries to outright dictate how a story I'm telling unfolds knows where they can go.

Agreed. Once the story is set and stone and release on TV...That's pretty much it in my book. You can't change the story anyways now, it's a little to late for all that noise. 

 

10 hours ago, Dissention said:

I'll contribute to this post... watched from day one. Will firmly state it was probably best TV series of all time, just kinda of a weak ending (@ least for some characters)

I can sum up my feelings without spoiling anything.

Show seemed to lose something once they got past the books.  It seemed every action had an eventual consequence until that point, then it all seemed watered down and rushed like they were trying to get to the end quickly without flushing everything/character arcs out.  

 My thought is that the last 2 seasons should have been full 10 episode seasons which would have overcome some of the criticism.  I think $'s played a role in some of the decision-making.  Also AT&T bought Time Warner.  IDK if that had something to do with it but again $'s.

 

Also generally say that after the Red Wedding show became too popular and part of "pop culture" every media outlet caught on.   I liked it b4 all the attention when it was raw (probably same reason I like RDR2)

As far as the petitions and complaining I ain't into that.  I'm thankful we got such a great show. People complain about everything nowadays...I complain their ain't nothing on TV worth watching now....so I'll probably be playing more RDO and complaining about the bugs.

 

Very true. I actually enjoyed the ending, I just disagreed with a few small things. 

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4 hours ago, DylBandit said:

Fair enough, not everyone has interest in that kind of genre.

The genre isn't an issue, I'm a big fan of Robert E. Howard's Conan and Kull stories which fall under the same sword and sorcery genre and I've been wanting Ubisoft to make a Conan game using Assassin's Creed as a template for years. Maybe it's just a matter of Westeros being a completely fictional realm in comparison to the Hyborian and Thurian Ages being fictional epochs in our Earth's prehistory even if the science there is a little iffy.

It's honestly hard to remember exactly why the show didn't click due to it having been so long ago now.

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I've been  following this series since the first book came out in the late 90's.  Loved the show until the last few seasons. It gutted me to see the story treated this way. This season was an absolute joke, plagued  with lazy writing and loose ends. There are so many questions and inaccuracies it's embarrassing.   I've got a list 2 days long that I'm not typing because it just frustrates me  lol. The fact that David Benioff is responsible for that abomination of Deadpool from Wolverine Origins explains a lot. He has zero respect for source material.  At least these writers won't be involved with  the prequel series, though they will be destroying star wars next.

 

 

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On 5/22/2019 at 7:21 AM, madfretter said:

I've been  following this series since the first book came out in the late 90's.  Loved the show until the last few seasons. It gutted me to see the story treated this way. This season was an absolute joke, plagued  with lazy writing and loose ends. There are so many questions and inaccuracies it's embarrassing.   I've got a list 2 days long that I'm not typing because it just frustrates me  lol. The fact that David Benioff is responsible for that abomination of Deadpool from Wolverine Origins explains a lot. He has zero respect for source material.  At least these writers won't be involved with  the prequel series, though they will be destroying star wars next.

  

  

I have to disagree about the "entire" season being a joke. I actually really liked the ending, except for the fact Jon snow didn't take the throne and Bran the "broken" did and so much big changes. Yeah it felt rushed a bit, but it really wasn't. This show has been going on for what? 8 years? It's been a good ride, but I'm glad we can finally wrap up the story. Season 8 has some very good episodes, such as the "The Long Night" which includes one of the biggest and best battle scenes I had ever seen on TV. Like come on the entire episode was intense from start to finish, and an absolute master piece. This show delivered for me, so I guess that's all that matters 🤷‍♀️

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had to look back through the seasons, 6 is the last one i finished,  the end of that season was epic :) I watched a couple episodes in 7 but couldn't get back into it.  

So for me the first 6 seasons delivered, 7 couldn't hold my attention.  But now that you mention it has the best battle scene ever in 8 i'll have to go back when all seasons are on netflix or hulu and watch these last 2.

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15 hours ago, Kormath said:

had to look back through the seasons, 6 is the last one i finished,  the end of that season was epic :) I watched a couple episodes in 7 but couldn't get back into it.  

 So for me the first 6 seasons delivered, 7 couldn't hold my attention.  But now that you mention it has the best battle scene ever in 8 i'll have to go back when all seasons are on netflix or hulu and watch these last 2.

Season 8 Episode 3 "The Long Night". Hands down the best battle scene I've ever seen PERIOD.

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On 5/23/2019 at 11:12 PM, DylBandit said:

I have to disagree about the "entire" season being a joke. I actually really liked the ending, except for the fact Jon snow didn't take the throne and Bran the "broken" did and so much big changes. Yeah it felt rushed a bit, but it really wasn't. This show has been going on for what? 8 years? It's been a good ride, but I'm glad we can finally wrap up the story. Season 8 has some very good episodes, such as the "The Long Night" which includes one of the biggest and best battle scenes I had ever seen on TV. Like come on the entire episode was intense from start to finish, and an absolute master piece. This show delivered for me, so I guess that's all that matters 🤷‍♀️

I totally agree with you that visually it was stunning  to watch but it was lacking context and continuity. To me, none of it mattered when considering all of the loose ends and unanswered questions that remained.  They spent years "developing" characters and story lines and never used what they developed them in to.  I'm used to tv and movies omitting book material, but this show omitted it's own material.I said I was  not going  to rattle off my list, but there's just so many things left on the table from this series.....

LIke why  spend all that time with Arya to not use her face swap skill  when it was needed most?  I mean, they didn't even really talk about what she did to the Freys. 

Quaithe tells Dany, beware of the pale male. They then show and make a huge focal point of Arya with said pale mare.... and nothing comes from it.

Zero explanation for all those spirals of body parts left by the night king.

The book and the show hint at Tyrion being a Targaryen, but nothing comes of it. They show hint safely approaching the 2 chained dragons and leave it at that.

Varys' letters to the living lords of westeros about Jons true name go nowhere.

Was Dany pregnant? 

The Prince that was promised?

The red priests,  what happened to them and their mission?

Quaithe, did anything she said serve a purpose?

Bran's warging, also, seemed to serve no purpose since they didnt tell us what he saw 

Crastor's babies,  forgot about them and  how they become walkers

Jon being a targaryen didn't matter I guess?

Podrick's ...um.. "gift"?

Jaqen's motives? nadda

Illyrio promised support for Dany when she landed in Westeros, how'd that go?

Meera and Howland Reed. gone in to the sunset

Dorne has a new prince, can we get a name?

What exactly did the night King want? Because if he only wanted to Kill Bran he could have done that when he was north of the wall.

What is the purpose of the Nights watch now?

Prophecies? nah.....

 

Also.... this  is about a 10th of my list, ugh.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, madfretter said:

I totally agree with you that visually it was stunning  to watch but it was lacking context and continuity. To me, none of it mattered when considering all of the loose ends and unanswered questions that remained.  They spent years "developing" characters and story lines and never used what they developed them in to.  I'm used to tv and movies omitting book material, but this show omitted it's own material.I said I was  not going  to rattle off my list, but there's just so many things left on the table from this series.....

 LIke why  spend all that time with Arya to not use her face swap skill  when it was needed most?  I mean, they didn't even really talk about what she did to the Freys. 

Quaithe tells Dany, beware of the pale male. They then show and make a huge focal point of Arya with said pale mare.... and nothing comes from it.

Zero explanation for all those spirals of body parts left by the night king.

The book and the show hint at Tyrion being a Targaryen, but nothing comes of it. They show hint safely approaching the 2 chained dragons and leave it at that.

Varys' letters to the living lords of westeros about Jons true name go nowhere.

Was Dany pregnant? 

The Prince that was promised?

The red priests,  what happened to them and their mission?

Quaithe, did anything she said serve a purpose?

Bran's warging, also, seemed to serve no purpose since they didnt tell us what he saw 

Crastor's babies,  forgot about them and  how they become walkers

Jon being a targaryen didn't matter I guess?

Podrick's ...um.. "gift"?

Jaqen's motives? nadda

Illyrio promised support for Dany when she landed in Westeros, how'd that go?

Meera and Howland Reed. gone in to the sunset

Dorne has a new prince, can we get a name?

What exactly did the night King want? Because if he only wanted to Kill Bran he could have done that when he was north of the wall.

What is the purpose of the Nights watch now?

Prophecies? nah.....

 

Also.... this  is about a 10th of my list, ugh.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There's a lot of shows that ended that way with big questions, and to me, I kind of like that idea. The EXACT thing happened in The Sopranos when they cut the screen black at the very end of the finale, which had everyone talking and guessing on what happened at the end of the show, when no one really knows what happened. Honestly, I like a good mystery with "what ifs" at the end just so I can brainstorm, and socialize with my friends about the actual show.

Yeah, there were some things I disagreed with at the end, but you can't make everyone happy with the show, and the most hardest and challenging part is ending a big series like that, because a lot of people aren't happy that the show is ending in the first place. Again, minor disagreements with the ending of Game of Thrones, but for the most part, I am very happy with the entire series. 

Cheers 😎

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4 minutes ago, Parzival said:

Walkers? Don't worry, Rick Grimes will handle that situation.

I never really was into the Walking Dead actually. I liked the first two seasons, but after that I don't know it didn't really spark my interest. Which is a perfect example of taste preference. The show is scored amazing and tons of people seem to call it a really great show, but for some it's just not my type of show, I don't know, maybe I'll give it another go. We'll see. 

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2 hours ago, DylBandit said:

I never really was into the Walking Dead actually. I liked the first two seasons, but after that I don't know it didn't really spark my interest. Which is a perfect example of taste preference. The show is scored amazing and tons of people seem to call it a really great show, but for some it's just not my type of show, I don't know, maybe I'll give it another go. We'll see. 

The fifth season was the last really great one, but it isn't by any means a bad show as of the last (ninth) season. With the exception of season 7 (which was pretty boring save for the first and last episodes, IMO), I'd put it in the "good" to "pretty good" area.

Anyway, that was really just a joke on my part, not an attempt to start discussing TWD here. I'm fairly sure I'm the only zombie genre fanatic here right at the moment. So by all means, everyone, ignore me and go back to discussing all the games and thrones. 😊

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5 hours ago, Parzival said:

The fifth season was the last really great one, but it isn't by any means a bad show as of the last (ninth) season. With the exception of season 7 (which was pretty boring save for the first and last episodes, IMO), I'd put it in the "good" to "pretty good" area.

 Anyway, that was really just a joke on my part, not an attempt to start discussing TWD here. I'm fairly sure I'm the only zombie genre fanatic here right at the moment. So by all means, everyone, ignore me and go back to discussing all the games and thrones. 😊

I actually love the zombie genre, just not the walking dead for some reason. Not everything in a specific genre will satisfy everyone. For example, some people love heavy metal, but some like other bands that the other may not like but it's the same genre if that makes sense. I don't know, I'll give TWD another go one of these days if I have time. 

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On 5/25/2019 at 2:24 PM, DylBandit said:

I never really was into the Walking Dead actually. I liked the first two seasons, but after that I don't know it didn't really spark my interest. Which is a perfect example of taste preference. The show is scored amazing and tons of people seem to call it a really great show, but for some it's just not my type of show, I don't know, maybe I'll give it another go. We'll see. 

i hate zombies now, anything to do with zombies i ignore or change the channel.  so overkilled.  give us a new supernatural creature to spend 40 years on like zombies have been, werewolves, vampires, fae,  Holy hell the endless possibilities they could do with the Fae.

However, i was like you with Walking Dead, i did like the first 2 seasons, got bored with the 3rd and quit watching.

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On 5/29/2019 at 2:48 PM, Kormath said:

However, i was like you with Walking Dead, i did like the first 2 seasons, got bored with the 3rd and quit watching.

Yeah it was pretty good up until the third season. I was like "Oh my god, more slow walking in the woods? Didn't we have enough of that already?" haha. 

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Mostly too cinematic for me, too many plots cut (even from early seasons) to make way for long, long shots. I was complaining about this to my gf from season 1, but alas she watched so I persisted. I can see why it appeals to others but it's just not the style/format I would have gone with for this story. It's difficult as it's essentially a high fantasy with a very dense, lore rich story, so it's difficult to hit both marks in a different medium.

 It was already diverging long before it passed the books and for the most part these changes were not entirely satisfying, minor changes like character amalgamations (Donyal Noye & Gren for example) certainly paid off and I had no complaints with. However the early Mance changes, the changes with Robb & Tulisa/Jeyne etc, none seemed to work for the better and in many ways actually takes something away from the original character. 

Last season was funny, it was just, funny, I laughed a lot.

On the upside, Winds of Winter Due next year!!! We've got the Ramsey vs Stannis Battle, the Redwine vs Ironborn (& possibly Euron) Battle, the Battle for Astaphor as well as more information on fAegon, The Dornish Master Plan & the Maester plot amongst others. We also finally get to find out (hopefully) how Jon will be resurrected, what Jagen Hagar is upto possibly and quite frankly loads of other stuff. I'm excited as much of this stuff was either cut or is very likely to have different paths to reach conclusions we might already know. 

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For what it’s worth, I liked most of the tv show. I read the books back in 2012, so I definitely had expectations. I was a little disappointed about the absence of some characters, but it was still good. I am really looking forward to reading the remaining books when they come out!

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1 hour ago, DylBandit said:

I personally love Vikings and The Last Kingdom. 

I actually have book 9 of the Saxon Tales (Warriors of the Storm) with me on vacation here in Hawaii at the moment, and am reading it a little bit here and there.  I've loved how they adapted it for the BBC/Netflix.

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8 hours ago, DylBandit said:

I personally love Vikings and The Last Kingdom. 

Vikings i got bored with after season 2,  seems to be a pattern there lol, i'll tough it out for the first 2 seasons to see if i like it then dump it or binge watch.

The Last Kingdom i loved,  waiting for the next season to come out :)

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