Banned for no reason.

[KVNknowsbest]

It seems as if they will ban you for anything looking shifty. Even if you didn't do it yourself, someone in you posse might have. I think it is crappy for this to happen but there likely isn't any work around for it right now. Mind the company you keep I suppose. 

[SixGunLover76]

It hasn't happened to me and it seems far fetched.  But if R* does ban or punish for cheating or exploiting glitches, it is sort of childish to me.  I mean it's software for crying out loud.  It's basically a living software to be exact.  It's constantly being tweaked and adjusted for improvement.  Glitches and problems are guaranteed.  That's just how it goes with programming.  But to call it cheating or serve restrictions because you duplicated 75 perfect cougars, that's taking the game and business a little to seriously.  

Now if your talking about smoking weed in gamer chat or dropping "F" bombs, I can see receiving restrictions.  Young ears always listen.  I've had my communication privileges taken away for talking "SMACK" to another player.  But I expected that.  Punishment accepted just like the $4 debit for purposely killing a griefers horse.

I'm no gamer.  I've played 3 games since Tecmo Bowl.  Red Dead Redemption, Farm Simulator 15 (I think), and RDR2.  RDR2 online is my first experience with cooperative play or whatever you want to call it.  I can see where figuring out glitches and learning how to trick the programming algorithms can be enjoyment of the game.  I just think punishments or restrictions for exploiting glitches in a video game is taking it a bit to far.  If it actual occurs.  I'm not tech savvy enough to cheat with glitches.  But more power to the next guy if he can.

[xsugarskull]

6 hours ago, SixGunLover76 said:

It hasn't happened to me and it seems far fetched.  But if R* does ban or punish for cheating or exploiting glitches, it is sort of childish to me. 

I think it depends on the means of which people are doing this. The reason they ban people is likely down to keeping the game on a fair playing level. I have been part of online games where this kind of stuff didn't get you banned and the lobbies died fast because no one could do anything against people who got fully stocked up with gear, money, etc. with minimal work.

[Kean_1]

6 hours ago, SixGunLover76 said:

It hasn't happened to me and it seems far fetched.  But if R* does ban or punish for cheating or exploiting glitches, it is sort of childish to me.  I mean it's software for crying out loud.  It's basically a living software to be exact.  It's constantly being tweaked and adjusted for improvement.  Glitches and problems are guaranteed.  That's just how it goes with programming.  But to call it cheating or serve restrictions because you duplicated 75 perfect cougars, that's taking the game and business a little to seriously.  

Now if your talking about smoking weed in gamer chat or dropping "F" bombs, I can see receiving restrictions.  Young ears always listen.  I've had my communication privileges taken away for talking "SMACK" to another player.  But I expected that.  Punishment accepted just like the $4 debit for purposely killing a griefers horse.

I'm no gamer.  I've played 3 games since Tecmo Bowl.  Red Dead Redemption, Farm Simulator 15 (I think), and RDR2.  RDR2 online is my first experience with cooperative play or whatever you want to call it.  I can see where figuring out glitches and learning how to trick the programming algorithms can be enjoyment of the game.  I just think punishments or restrictions for exploiting glitches in a video game is taking it a bit to far.  If it actual occurs.  I'm not tech savvy enough to cheat with glitches.  But more power to the next guy if he can.

Far fetched meaning there may be more to the story or far fetched that R* would impose a 30 day ban for using an exploit / hack in RDO?  

The fact is that this is nothing new.  R* is not the only company to go after those who use certain hacks / exploits in online modes to gain an advantage over others.  R* has varying punishments where they may even remove in-game money earned through the use of cheats.  .....we all agree to the EULA when playing these games. 

In the OPs case and the one other fellow, they apparently were duped by a griefer who seems to have wanted to get them banned.  My advice even before this came to light is don't join posses with randoms nor let them join yours.  You open yourself up to trolls.

[SixGunLover76]

7 hours ago, Kean_1 said:

Far fetched meaning there may be more to the story or far fetched that R* would impose a 30 day ban for using an exploit / hack in RDO?  

The fact is that this is nothing new.  R* is not the only company to go after those who use certain hacks / exploits in online modes to gain an advantage over others.  R* has varying punishments where they may even remove in-game money earned through the use of cheats.  .....we all agree to the EULA when playing these games. 

In the OPs case and the one other fellow, they apparently were duped by a griefer who seems to have wanted to get them banned.  My advice even before this came to light is don't join posses with randoms nor let them join yours.  You open yourself up to trolls.

"Far fetched" was a bad choice of words.  I guess I was just trying to convey my surprise of the topic.  WOW!!  Companies including R* take the game far to seriously.  I come from a different time.  I never would have thought that a person who has bought the game and console and paid for his/her yearly gold membership would have to worry about being kicked offline for taking short cuts.  A glitch in the game is a glitch in the game.  It's just a game.  It's fake money, fake gold, it's not like the person is getting rich off of distributing cocaine.  I guess I look at the game as free roam to be able to do what you want within your capabilities inside the game.  If you can understand what I'm trying to say.

"being duped by a griefer"  Again, WOW!!  Talk about some vindictive pricks in the world.  Some of these cats get deep into this online thing.  

I experienced a club for a day or so.  I was able to recognize from listening to others that some players come up with some far fetched ideas of how to screw with someone else.  What's crazy to me?  The time it takes to check out another posse to double up on deliveries with your own posse, a solo player can already run 2 deliveries.  It seems like a lot of wasted time and effort just to get a kick out of putting the screws to a player.  Sorta like having enemies online that try and chase you down.  Really!?!? 😂  It's a game!!  You grief, you get griefed, you kill, you get killed.  Who cares!!  You always respawn!!!  I guess I take the game to lightly.  SMS

In the end, I guess I'm just amazed at the difference in my view of the game and what others do with it.  Including R*.

[SixGunLover76]

8 hours ago, xsugarskull said:

I think it depends on the means of which people are doing this. The reason they ban people is likely down to keeping the game on a fair playing level. I have been part of online games where this kind of stuff didn't get you banned and the lobbies died fast because no one could do anything against people who got fully stocked up with gear, money, etc. with minimal work.

I see.  I can understand that.  It makes sense now.  You'll have to forgive my lack of experience of online play.  I only have maybe 5 months of online playing time with RDR2.  Seems like you would have to do some pretty harsh stuff to get banned.  The idea of someone else getting you banned by some action seems more plausible. 

[mizTik]

On 11/26/2019 at 5:43 PM, Vendetta said:

To be honest, it is one of the things that has left a sour taste in my mouth in regards to PC gaming, and is why I still prefer console gaming. In any event, I feel bad about having to be like this towards RockStar games, but I have to be tuff with them because I love the work they do and the games they produce so much. 

A friend of mine who was into PC gaming for a few years ended up selling his gaming PC and buying an Xbox One when it came out. He got sick of the upkeep and always having to worry about games working right. Rockstar isn't the only dev company that has had issues porting over games. While I would say most run fine, the ones that don't... If they happen to be big titles like this, well.. It just looks bad.

[Kean_1]

22 hours ago, SixGunLover76 said:

"Far fetched" was a bad choice of words.  I guess I was just trying to convey my surprise of the topic.  WOW!!  Companies including R* take the game far to seriously.  I come from a different time.  I never would have thought that a person who has bought the game and console and paid for his/her yearly gold membership would have to worry about being kicked offline for taking short cuts.  A glitch in the game is a glitch in the game.  It's just a game.  It's fake money, fake gold, it's not like the person is getting rich off of distributing cocaine.  I guess I look at the game as free roam to be able to do what you want within your capabilities inside the game.  If you can understand what I'm trying to say.

That "fake" gold is also at the heart of RDO's MTX system so yeah, there's that.

As for short cuts, it depends what those are.  Using hacks and/or some types of exploits in online play can easily cross the line.  Again, those "members" should know that they are bound by the EULA for the game and their gaming system.  A "glitch" in the game can be a bit of a different story and can depend on how some people are taking advantage of it, it's accessibility, how often they used it (i.e. exploited it), etc.  This isn't necessarily black and white.

Hacks / exploits / cheating can also affect other players when they are used to gain an advantage in online play.  It can also affect the overall health of the player population because people aren't going to want to play in an environment where cheating is ignored.  .....and it will appear R* condones the act or simply doesn't care.  

There are still exploits that exists that never really get addressed.  .....the MTU trick in GTAO for example.  Folks use it all the time to force themselves into solo, public sessions.  R* knows about it but does nothing to attempt to correct it from what I have seen.  I use it too simply because I don't like to play with randoms in that game but still want to experience the businesses, etc. only available in public sessions.  I think R* also also realizes this and may choose to ignore it so that folks like me still have that option. 

......again, not necessarily a black and white matter.

[xsugarskull]

On 12/3/2019 at 7:36 PM, SixGunLover76 said:

I see.  I can understand that.  It makes sense now.  You'll have to forgive my lack of experience of online play.  I only have maybe 5 months of online playing time with RDR2.  Seems like you would have to do some pretty harsh stuff to get banned.  The idea of someone else getting you banned by some action seems more plausible. 

Yeah I know a few people who got a temporary 30 day ban simply because they were on the wrong server at the wrong time. They had no way of disproving  they weren't involved and Rockstar had no way of knowing either so a group of like 10 or 12 people got banned. 

[mrohaus]

Just wanted to give an update on my ban. I couldn't get a refund so I decided to play story mode until then. Got my ban lifted on 12/20. Started the game at reset level,but I had my 105 gold. I was really worried about the gold mostly and I got it all back. Needless to say I won't be starting any random posses in the near future. Thanks for the help everyone.

 

Edited December 25, 2019 by mrohaus

[Vendetta]

On 12/24/2019 at 7:58 PM, mrohaus said:

Just wanted to give an update on my ban. I couldn't get a refund so I decided to play story mode until then. Got my ban lifted on 12/20. Started the game at reset level,but I had my 105 gold. I was really worried about the gold mostly and I got it all back. Needless to say I won't be starting any random posses in the near future. Thanks for the help everyone.

 

Glad your back online.

[shiverz]

On 12/24/2019 at 7:58 PM, mrohaus said:

Just wanted to give an update on my ban. I couldn't get a refund so I decided to play story mode until then. Got my ban lifted on 12/20. Started the game at reset level,but I had my 105 gold. I was really worried about the gold mostly and I got it all back. Needless to say I won't be starting any random posses in the near future. Thanks for the help everyone.

 

Glad things got sorted for you and you were able to keep your gold. Just stick to forming posses with people you know or you can join one on here. Better to be safe than sorry.

[Coyote]

So a friend of mine got banned the other day on PC. We were getting ready to play together, he had been playing already and I was coming on to join him. He left his lobby to join mine and it wouldn't connect. After trying for 30 minutes, he contacted Rockstar. They got back to him earlier this morning and told him he has a 30 day ban on his account but couldn't say why. 

Now I am downright confused. What could have happened in that short amount of time to be banned? Could someone in his lobby been using mods and he got blamed for it as well? 

[Kean_1]

.....assuming he didn't do something he wasn't supposed to. 

[Coyote]

3 minutes ago, Kean_1 said:

.....assuming he didn't do something he wasn't supposed to. 

I mean I asked him like 5 times and he assured me he didn't. He don't mess with mods either. So I dunno. lol

[poopypoopypoop]

On 11/20/2019 at 4:34 PM, NastyNatives said:

Mods are not the only reason they will ban you.

unfortunately you cant appeal it as their decisions are final and with the ban comes an account wipe.

This isn't quite true. Mods are currently undetected by Rockstar, which has been stated by the creators of the ModMenus themselves. The issue here is that OP accidentally did something to set off a flag, there's a number of ways to do this but one very easy way to do this is to spam selling items to any NPC that buys them. It doesn't happen often but Rockstar can decide that you were using a macro potentially exploit a certain bug and decide to ban you. This flag is generally set off if you attempt to spam "donate carcasses" at camp. If you're someone with any latency issues, it gets even easier to set this flag off.

I'm also not sure if this has happened yet, and this is exactly why I recommend playing in solo lobbies and blocking Rockstar's ports, but there are ModMenus available currently like GTAO where a modder can use "your name" to blame on for their own actions. They can blow up an entire lobby and it will display your name as the person who is doing it, the game will even act like you did it by giving you exp for killing them. It's really not all that hard to get innocently banned in this game, you just have to be unlucky basically and run into someone who feels like using a "frame mod" on you. I included a screenshot of the current mod available that can frame you.

Note: this specific modmenu was created after OP got banned and is likely not the cause of his ban (unless someone privately had the mod before that, which is possible)

Edited January 1, 2020 by poopypoopypoop