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Yeah, I have a feeling R* is well aware of what fans want from this game.  I don't think they have any intentions or are even interested in creating a GTAV:O environment in RDR2.

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On 7/26/2018 at 7:41 PM, BropolloCreed79 said:

Unpopular Opinion: campers are fine, and a worthy adversary within the context of PvP.  I dont snipe myself, but rp'ing as, say, an Indian Scout, sneaking up on a sniper with some tomahawks.... my pants get tight just thinking  about it.

Back when I was more into FPS games (specifically online ones), campers were fun to play around with. Like some of them were rather good at it. It almost felt like playing a game of cat and mouse. I was never a sniper but it seemed like the best campers in those kinds of games weren't either. The close range ones were the ones you had to look out for. 

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On 6/3/2018 at 12:02 AM, CMcC said:

Could all be bull but the main take away, for those of you that don’t have the time to watch the video is this:

-Committing certain crimes will result in a wanted level and you’ll have lawmen on your trail.

-Bounties are back but you may not realize you have one placed on you until towns folk react to your presence unfavorably or you see your wanted poster(?). (Which you can take down). Bounty hunters (other players) can question NPCs on your whereabouts. 

-To find bounties check wanted posters and newspapers.

- Players will only be visible on your map when they’re in a certain radius of you. Friends and crew will always be on your map, no matter the distance.

-Similar to time trials in GTA, there’ll be treasure hunts. 

-Dead eye won’t slow down time Online but will allow you to X people.

-Houses can be bought. Tents may have different colors and features. 

-Battle Royal mode tested but not approved. 

-Your GTA character can not be ported but a heritage tree is featured in creating your Online character.

 

 

 

On 7/26/2018 at 6:36 AM, Kean_1 said:

I always thought it would be cool to have wanted posters at train stations, sheriff's offices, post offices, etc. with the current players who have bounties that other players can click to view.  Perhaps the bounties could last for a while given the assumed lack of a radar feature.  ....aside from the initial "ping" that shows their location at the time of the crime.  It could also be fun to be the one who is wanted given the additional risk of being caught if recognized.    

 

Maybe you would only be briefly marked when you get within close proximity to people who have viewed your wanted poster?  

 

 

 

I'd love it if Rockstar were following this forum, we've got some awesome ideas.

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No. Camping isn't something that is an issue in this game. Everyone is on an even playing ground and there is more going on than just killing each other. 

On 7/29/2018 at 11:49 PM, CMcC said:

I'd love it if Rockstar were following this forum, we've got some awesome ideas.

Would be nice. Some people on here have great ideas that would make the game even better. 

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Maybe not prevented entirely,  but discouraged. For example:

- A reduction in points/score/money if you spend too much time and/or kill enough opponents in the same area. 

- A bonus for killing a player who spends their time on the same spot. The higher their killcount the higher the bonus. 

This way it could be considered a valid strategy, but the game would still aknowledge that it's a cheap one. If the camper's rewards for a kill lowered by, for example, 5% for each consecutive kill, but also rises the reward for killing them by 5%, it would encourage players to move around the map. 

I'm a PvP newbie, but I feel this could work.

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Camping and griefing is not needed for PvP.  Work arounds or not.  I don't have a problem with PvP in a freeroam setting, I enjoyed PvP in the 1st RDR.   Yet in the day and age, most so called PvP players don't want to PvP, the want to be player killers and ruin the fun of others. 

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4 hours ago, YodaMan 3D said:

Camping and griefing is not needed for PvP.  Work arounds or not.  I don't have a problem with PvP in a freeroam setting, I enjoyed PvP in the 1st RDR.   Yet in the day and age, most so called PvP players don't want to PvP, the want to be player killers and ruin the fun of others. 

See, I don't group "camping" and "griefing" in the same context. 

To me, "camping" is finding a strategic spot from which to snipe enemies. However, that being said, I'm strongly opposed to *any* camp spot being "untouchable" -- meaning, once the camper is there, there's NO way to remove them or kill them. To me, that isn't a "camp" spot - that's an exploit which needs to be patched. I'm fine with it being HARD to kill them in that spot, but impossible? No way. But to me, I'm fine with good "camp" spots which offer strong defense and from which one can pick other players off. If someone finds one and starts destroying my team with it, I smile. Because hey! Guess where *I'M* racing to next time I play this location??  ????  (*NOTE: This does NOT apply to "Spawn Camping." If you camp at a spawn location and kill others the SECOND they re-spawn, you need to just pack it up and go to hell, sir. That's "griefing," in my book.)

On the other hand, "griefing," to me, is INTENTIONALLY being a butthole to everyone else playing and having fun by TRYING to ruin the fun of others. You can "camp" at a good snipe spot and just be trying to help your team. You're not TRYING to ruin the fun of others. It's not cheating, either. Hell, if you were in a real battle and could find a great defensible spot where you could pick off others and they couldn't easily get at you, WOULDN'T YOU USE IT??!  Griefing, though, is a blatantly malicious act, in my book.

 

tl;dr - "Camping = usually okay."  "Griefing = we all hate you and please die."  

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1 hour ago, Cokeyskunk said:

See, I don't group "camping" and "griefing" in the same context. 

To me, "camping" is finding a strategic spot from which to snipe enemies. However, that being said, I'm strongly opposed to *any* camp spot being "untouchable" -- meaning, once the camper is there, there's NO way to remove them or kill them. To me, that isn't a "camp" spot - that's an exploit which needs to be patched. I'm fine with it being HARD to kill them in that spot, but impossible? No way. But to me, I'm fine with good "camp" spots which offer strong defense and from which one can pick other players off. If someone finds one and starts destroying my team with it, I smile. Because hey! Guess where *I'M* racing to next time I play this location??  ????  (*NOTE: This does NOT apply to "Spawn Camping." If you camp at a spawn location and kill others the SECOND they re-spawn, you need to just pack it up and go to hell, sir. That's "griefing," in my book.)

On the other hand, "griefing," to me, is INTENTIONALLY being a butthole to everyone else playing and having fun by TRYING to ruin the fun of others. You can "camp" at a good snipe spot and just be trying to help your team. You're not TRYING to ruin the fun of others. It's not cheating, either. Hell, if you were in a real battle and could find a great defensible spot where you could pick off others and they couldn't easily get at you, WOULDN'T YOU USE IT??!  Griefing, though, is a blatantly malicious act, in my book.

 

tl;dr - "Camping = usually okay."  "Griefing = we all hate you and please die."  

Camping is never OK, especially in COD. Open world games you can't really camp. 

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1 minute ago, Benjo said:

Camping is never OK, especially in COD. Open world games you can't really camp. 

To me, it depends on your definition of the word.

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2 minutes ago, Cokeyskunk said:

To me, it depends on your definition of the word.

In terms of COD, when someone sits in the corner of a room and waits for people to enter, then kills them, then continues sitting there until someone else turns up. That's camping. If they were on my team I would drop a smoke grenade so they had to get up and move. Jerks.

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5 minutes ago, Benjo said:

In terms of COD, when someone sits in the corner of a room and waits for people to enter, then kills them, then continues sitting there until someone else turns up. That's camping. If they were on my team I would drop a smoke grenade so they had to get up and move. Jerks.

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So, doesn't that just open the door for those whom the camper kills to go right back to said room and just throw the smoke grenade in to flush them out, then let them have it when they do?

Or better yet, just throw a REAL grenade in the door . . . ? 

❤️ doing stuff like that.

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My latest experiences come from TD and GTA:O.   Both open world and then need for it, whether you call it camping or griefing.  I have heard the two words used to describe the same instance.   The latest phrase I have heard to explain the scenario, is Player Killers.  Cause the ones that do it care nothing for the game and just want to attack other players.

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On 8/6/2018 at 1:53 PM, YodaMan 3D said:

The latest phrase I have heard to explain the scenario, is Player Killers.  Cause the ones that do it care nothing for the game and just want to attack other players.

That is just trolling. You know most people doing this are doing it because they find it funny. They want to get people to rage quit. They need to have some kind of report system where if the person gets reported on for the same thing so many times, in a short amount of time, and by multiple people, they should be suspended for it. 

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3 minutes ago, Suck3rPunch3d said:

That is just trolling. You know most people doing this are doing it because they find it funny. They want to get people to rage quit. They need to have some kind of report system where if the person gets reported on for the same thing so many times, in a short amount of time, and by multiple people, they should be suspended for it. 

Thing is I personally don't want to get players banned.  Problem is that most games that have a free roaming map, seems to want to allow that behavior that puts players attacking other players whether both parties are interested in it to begin with.

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2 minutes ago, YodaMan 3D said:

Thing is I personally don't want to get players banned.  Problem is that most games that have a free roaming map, seems to want to allow that behavior that puts players attacking other players whether both parties are interested in it to begin with.

Not banned, just suspended. Like they will lose privileges online for a set period of time. 

What I would like to see is a dump server. For people who do nothing but troll other players, they will be put on this server (they may need a few) with other players who do the same thing. This way they can keep playing how they want without ruining anyone's else's gaming experience. This can be like a limited time punishment. Like first offense, you get put on it for 3 days or something. 

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11 minutes ago, Suck3rPunch3d said:

That is just trolling. You know most people doing this are doing it because they find it funny. They want to get people to rage quit. They need to have some kind of report system where if the person gets reported on for the same thing so many times, in a short amount of time, and by multiple people, they should be suspended for it. 

Ahh, but if a group of trolls decide to troll YOU and all report you together, wouldn't that get you banned for nothing?

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1 minute ago, Cokeyskunk said:

Ahh, but if a group of trolls decide to troll YOU and all report you together, wouldn't that get you banned for nothing?

Not banned, suspended. But they would have to be smart about it. I get what you are saying. It is like a double-edged sword. Trolls can easily abuse this too. 

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1 minute ago, Suck3rPunch3d said:

Not banned, suspended. But they would have to be smart about it. I get what you are saying. It is like a double-edged sword. Trolls can easily abuse this too. 

Your eyes are opened. You now can see.  ????

Trolls can be relentless. They are the cancer of the gaming world. 

I think trolls should be hunted down by a posse IRL.

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1 minute ago, Cokeyskunk said:

Your eyes are opened. You now can see.  ????

Trolls can be relentless. They are the cancer of the gaming world. 

I think trolls should be hunted down by a posse IRL.

I am guilty of being a troll myself but I keep it short and usually only with people I know. I don't screw with randoms. The worst thing about some of these trolls is that they have YouTube channels showcasing it which only further encourages the behavior, especially with kids and teens which tends to be the most annoying group of trolls there is. 

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1 minute ago, Suck3rPunch3d said:

I am guilty of being a troll myself but I keep it short and usually only with people I know. I don't screw with randoms. The worst thing about some of these trolls is that they have YouTube channels showcasing it which only further encourages the behavior, especially with kids and teens which tends to be the most annoying group of trolls there is. 

I don't really consider it "trolling" if you're momentarily giving some buddies a hard time. Now, if you ALWAYS give them a hard time NON-STOP, that's a little different. But yes, I usually equate "trolling" to randoms. But if you're constantly targeting certain people, I guess that could be trolling.

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If properly monitored, there should be no false accusations that would be fruitful.   It's neglect on a company that doesn't watch what their game is doing.

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The only thing that should ever be prevented entirely is hackers or anyone trying to cheat the game. If someone wants to sit around and hide and they enjoy playing a game like that, that is fine with me.

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On ‎8‎/‎9‎/‎2018 at 7:36 PM, GatoNegro said:

The only thing that should ever be prevented entirely is hackers or anyone trying to cheat the game. If someone wants to sit around and hide and they enjoy playing a game like that, that is fine with me.

So if another player, who only has fun by griefing others, finds a strategic place and snipes you every time you spawn in and is willing to do that for hours, to the point where you won't enjoy the game at all.  You are ok with that and will entertain them, cause that is ok?

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