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New video from Digital Foundry. No way Rockstar can ignore this:

I can only imagine how some of those videos would start. "Howdy Miss, I hear there been some rustlin in them bushes, mind if I take a gander". Lol

I bought RDR2 because I watched a youtube video about it months ago and just remembered the name, but by the time I bought it I had forgotten what was in the video, all I remembered was that I had decided to get it. So I start playing opening day, and it was kind of interesting. I'm a huge fan of the Battlefield series, so that's really more of my thing, and I found the game play through the early part of the game rather slow and not really that interesting, honestly. Then later I get to the open world, and I really don't know what is going on, it was my first time playing a game like this and I didn't even understand wtf was supposed to be happening, in fact, I didn't even understand that it was an "open world". I could barely ride my horse, had no idea how the selection of what was in my hand was working, it was all very confusing .. .. But .. The world ... wow. I mean the grass, the clouds, even compared to Battlefield 1 which I think was the prettiest game I had ever played, wtf, how did the people who made this game even come up with this stuff. It's SO beautiful. I thought that from the beginning, but once you get out into the world and start wandering around, it's just so impressive. The detail, the very obvious amount of craftsmanship that went into this game, it is so expansive. And I'm walking around looking at everything and start to figure out mechanics such as being able to study creatures with binoculars, tracking, riding my horse and getting to know it, and yes .. there is a story, and you can work towards that, and I was, .. or, am ? I think. But most of the time it seems like I'm just riding around on my horse. And yes, I could run everywhere and make the game faster, but ... for some reason I just walk, or lead my horse sometimes, walk when I'm on foot, wander around. And then after a few days of this, literally, ... I mean wtf, is this even a game ? I mean I'm enjoying just being in the game, without even advancing the story, just riding around looking at stuff, like you might if you just went out for a walk around the neighborhood. And identifying animals, and watching birds fly around, and the scenery WOW, the little lakes, rivers, the creatures, and the level of detail in the game mechanics for hunting, fishing, etc. Half the time it feels like I'm trying to build my character, and get a better relationship with my horse(s) (now I have two that I wander around with), and it's so exciting to find new places to go and new things to see. And how on EARTH did the people who made this game make so much detail on such a grand scope, such a HUGE map, and it's almost perfect, I mean, footsteps in the mud, the weather, the sounds. I don't even know if it's a game with a point anymore, and I don't even seem to care if it has a point, I've been contented most of the day learning how to use a new lure to lake fish, enjoying new species of fish as I find them. I've almost completely stopped progressing in the story, honestly. Today I deliberately avoided a story line because it was interrupting what I was doing, because I wanted to get something I needed to craft something and had to ride quite a ways to get to it. Which then turned into racing on my horse along the railroad tracks ... for ... umm ... fun, without any point. Is it a game ? A hunting simulation ? A therapy session ? A work of art to be admired ? An instructive encyclopedia and teaching aid ? At this point I don't even know. And I don't seem to care.

Here, this ought to brighten your day. Just happens to coincide with RDR2s launch.......

Just wondering who else is finding this useful. I use it on my iPad as my main map, and it's great! It's much easier to zoom, scroll, and set waypoints. Best of all, you can peek at it during cinematic camera view to make sure your horse isn't going off on some weird tangent, and to see how close you are to your objective. The interface for Arthur's journal is nice too.

I feel they gonna patch it, its just too much noise for Sony to handle i think. And if they fix the blur its really going to look almost identical to X and fixing HDR would be a bonus.

It's almost as if you're thinking like a real outlaw, there MrCreed.

I will say that when I am completing a quest that involves traveling back to another location, I almost never stick to roads. There's less of a risk of being ambushed if you travel "as the crow flies" when finishing something. Sure, you run into the occasional terrain issue, but for the most part, it's safer. You also get the unexpected bonus of running into unmapped points of interest, which is always nice.

I´m sending this video to the support team. This is exactly my problem. Thanks Mr. 4k Upscaler for the Video. I send this one, because this guy using only high quality tvs.

R* games are one of the few that I leave aim assist on. I honestly cannot play GTAV without it. RDR2 seems to be a bit of a different story. Play with all the settings including the acceleration. I got mine to a point where the assist is set at its weakest but it gets me generally where I need to be and then I manually aim. I also can't handle not having it when hunting. .....makes it way more difficult than it needs to be in those cases especially when I am grinding for cash.

Xbox user here. I just dropped by to say I hope they fix that quickly for you guys. Sucks to not be getting the beautiful game you see in the trailers. On the Xbox side, we're also having issues with the HDR. I've been fiddling with options on my TV to optimize for RDR2, even if it makes other games worse for the time being, since I plan on focusing only on this game for awhile. For the moment, I have HDR off, but I'll probably mess around with some more settings tonight to see what I can get.

Agreed.... So is the idea that everyone walked around with a drop holster like you see in all the western movies. Many cowboys wore their holsters at the beltline like most do today. .....not talking about modern military thigh rigs btw which is a whole other debate in itself (vs. chest rigs, what some armor will allow, etc.) Anyhow, thought these photos would be good for the discussion.

Hollywood. Blame Hollywood. For their stories it was more impressive to wield two guns at once. Thing is cowboys like Wyatt Earp has stated you can't shoot accurately like that, you have to aim down your sights and you can't do that with both guns at the same time. Another tidbit, most duels both shooter was within 5 yards of one another.

I swear it's Groundhog day around here. Those must have been some impressive crimes. I have to try to get my bounty that high--it rarely exceeds $15 or $20. Bingo. Probably because you're standing over a dead body. That's what's happened to me a few times. Now, I either get out of there quickly, or I take the body with me and avoid roads. That usually does the trick. And, when out in the wilderness, always, ALWAYS kill the witness too. I've never had more than two consecutive witnesses to a crime, so it's usually a quick cleanup. One body on my horse, one on their horse, and then you tell that horse to flee, or you ride it yourself and have your horse follow you off-road. Dump the bodies in a ditch or in a nice shrubbery, and go about your business. If anything, the game is guilty of being a little too realistic. Folks are saying the system is broken, but in most cases now (and even back then), if "The Law" saw that you were involved in an incident, you were taken in for questioning or arrested. They have to take shortcuts in a game like this because nobody was interested in playing "CSI: 1899" and watching Horatio Caine dig through horse droppings with sunglasses making stupid puns. I can see it now: the deputy picks up a hat and walks over to Horatio, who's looking at a body with no head. Deputy: "Well, there's blood on the hat. Looks expensive." Horatio: "It appears that it was worth losing his head over it." (Cue Roger Daltrey's iconic "YEEEEAAAAHHHHH" scream)

Same issue here on ps4 pro with samsung ks8000 4k hdr. There's a general haziness and lack of focus on HDR. Turning HDR off looks a bit better, but still getting significant blur around the outlines. It's disappointing - looking forward to a patch.

This is why I always create a backup save before starting a new mission. It's saved my horse three times now. With some missions, you can't save during, so I try to do it before I start off on anything new, even if I'm in the middle of nowhere.

So, I have been playing this game since it was released Thursday night and the HUGE ELEPHANT in the ROOM is, OMFG this law/bounty system is beyond terrible. I cannot believe how insanely lopsided, unfair and downright stupid it is. Did anyone BETA test these systems at all? I mean seriously, someone actually thought these were working as intended? With that being said, let me also state that I am also a believer in Justice type systems but not so lopsided that it is beyond unfair and makes no sense. I'm going to give many scenarios to explain my points about how flawed this system is, I'm sure many of you can relate and possibly have more insane stories to share about it. For a bandit/Outlaw game, this sure makes it impossible to try and attempt any of that play style not to mention quests automatically putting you into it ALL THE TIME. #1: You walk around town, people are constantly rude to you and just looking to get into a fight or anything to annoy you... with complete IMMUNITY. No matter what happens, you will be blamed for it. Someone start kicking your ass because you walked by, lawman on the spot to blame you and gun you down. Did you walk too close to someone? unarmed assualt, Lawmen after you... #2 You try any petty crime anywhere in the world, guess what? There is always some type of witness within 10 miles that will always blame you for it and you guessed it, the law will be on you and bounties placed on you. #3 Your horse look at someone the wrong way? Reported, lawmen killing you. #4 a million other stupid little things that you arent doing anything yet the law is called on you and bounties instantly placed on your head. Bounties... the amount is insane compared to how little money you have access to or can acquire in the first 100 play hours. 300-2500$ instantly on you... and guess what, as you get killed all the time from this, you will get a death penalty and the damn bounties are still on you. WHAT? Died 10 times, lose 10x the bounty money already? Doesnt matter, bounty stays... The limited quests you have happen to be in an area where you are wanted? Either you cant do them and progress or enjoying dying a lot more because of it. Did you happen to kill 50+ lawmen who were hunting you down and respawn in the area in a matter of seconds? You wont get to loot very much and the few that you do dont have much money items to put a dent into those Bounties at all. Speaking of looting, why do these bodies disappear so fast? It takes forever to loot 1 thing yet they decay insanely fast. I just do not get how this law/bounty system was put into place and decided that it was working very well. The trade off and severity of anything in this game is beyond rational. Imagine the sentence of everything in real life being death + bounty on your entire family until they can pay it off. Jaywalk? - Death Punch someone in the face? Death Shoe not tied? Death Car driving too slow or fast? Death Someone in another city think of a crime - you are automatically accused and punished for it. No evidence needed, it was you. I have every mask in the game as well.. and guess what, they do absolutely nothing in concealing your identity or preventing bounties/lawmen on you like white on rice. So after this time, I am stuck in an endless loop of being killed by an unjust legal system and being blamed for anything and everything in the world happening. Top it all off, I can never accumulate any money because I owe 300-5000$ in every sector of the map some where, although I've been killed many times for my supposed crimes, they just keep killing me until I can someone accumulate the money to pay of the bounties that I owe. Come on Rockstar....really? This is the legal/bounty system you release and feel justifies the game? There is absolutely no balance to this insanity. Sucks there was no difficulty level to start the game off with, now I'm stuck in a nightmare mode of lawmen above the law looking to solve any problem by killing you, over and over and over....over...over - all the while racking up your bounty in the process.

Hi all, I am Andreas 32 years old from Greece. I am new to RDR2 but old gamer generally. :) Have fun to all!!

Yep, I work tier 1 support (for a software company) which are the same type of folks that man the R* tickets and Twitter accounts and stuff this prolific always makes it to leadership (if not executives).

......cue 70s "chicka dow now" music.

Just ignore him, he's not here to help, we have to contact rockstar games support.

@Melting Snowflakes thanks for including that in a spoiler alert. I do appreciate that we are doing our best here to keep the game fresh for newer folks as they purchase it. I do hate to hear that last part, I hope you can manage to recover another! @Poggy There is no shame in discretion. I think you made a wise choice; I think you may be able to return better equipped for the task!

I'll do that too. Thanks.

I tried submitting a ticket over at Rockstar support don't no if that will help maybe you could do the same? Its better than a poke in the eye?

Good idea, I will give this a shot when I get back on the game this evening. I've done all the tonics and everything.

I wouldn't say "outlaw", but I'm a big believer in the axiom, "work smarter, not harder". If people want to play the game blundering around like a bull in a china shop, be my guest--just don't come in here whining about how "unfair" the wanted system is when you get attention for standing over a dead body, rifling through the pockets like some Neanderthal. To be fair, I'm "White Hatting" this until I unlock the PS Trophy for "Maximum Goodness". After that, I'm going to turn into the biggest jackass this side of the Rio Grande.

....and quite honestly, this is one reason why I really like this game. I also like the fact that I can lose my horse. It forces me to exercise caution and also adds an element of tension, excitement and great relief when you know you just dodged a bullet. Personally, I only lost my horse once and that was my fault entirely (tried to beat the train). I have survived several ambushes with some really close calls. I was killed in one or two but my horse escaped without issue. When traveling along roads I will often slow down in choke points, over bridges, etc. More than once I was able to hear them talking as I approach. I will then pull my pump shotgun or repeater and either face them or run away. I also will run alongside roads or "as the crow flies" as Creed mentioned. I actually look forward to encounters like these now as I have become pretty good at reacting to them and they tend to be profitable (stuff I can sell to my fences).

Glad I found you guys, thought I was turning into a master-race graphic whore) Wrote up to R* support recently with a similar issue, will post here if answered with something interesting. I can't help but start squinting and get eye strain after some time (yup, I'm getting old but still recent God of War sessions were longer and didn't have any side effects). I mean, come on - with flawless One X version in one hand and a handful of titles (like God of War/Uncharted 4 I've been playing recently) in another there must be something better for us Pro owners. Yes, I do understand that we may not get the SAME quality as One X 'cause of simple raw power, but something needs to be done.

Do you smell that? Smells like a class-action lawsuit to me....

Not to be contrarian, but the human eye can absolutely tell the difference between 1080p and 4K: My eyesight is very, very good (not bragging, it's just a fact). I play on a 60" 4K set that's about five feet in front of me, and the difference between 1080p and 4K in video is glaring. I understand that a lot of people (like my wife) don't see the difference between standard def and 720p or from 720 to 1080. That's fine, but my wife also refuses to wear her glasses unless we're going to the movies. For her, the difference is indistinguishable without her glasses, and I would suspect that people with eye issues are going to have that problem regardless.

I can tell you where it is:

Thanks man. Yeah it's a tad frustrating. But there's still a lot to do in this game, and I am making good progress on my other challenges. I guess I'll just leave my treasure hunter aspirations behind me lol.

Like Kennedy mentioned, it's a cross draw holster. I think it's apparent Arthur is a righty. It would make sense that he would want both weapons more accessible to his right hand than left. The idea for me would be to have access to two loaded weapons in a gunfight vs. one. What I don't like is that there isn't a quick button press where you can quickly switch handguns when one is empty. Personally, I think the whole dual wielding idea is what is stupid about the weapon handling in this game. I've seen trick shooters and professionals (who train religiously) pull off some cool shots but in reality, it is extremely inaccurate and anything but CQC would likely not hit the target as it is portrayed in the game.

It's a cross draw holster. The below video helps explain it.

My mistake there, partner. I rode up over the hill and saw you going through that dead feller's pockets. What was I to think?

You can also fiddle with some settings to help you. I'm a wuss, so I go for max assistance and slow movement.

In the guide it says that you always pay a percentage when killed, by law or otherwise. And every time you die within an hour beyond the first time the % increases. The exception is dying in missions, of course - no penalty for that. Oh, and if you only have $10 or less - then you pay nothing either. So maybe you've found another bug? Albeit a profitable one!

Rockstar be like "One more big score we got enough money to leave... what do you think?" 🤣

So I’ve been playing the game tonight and in cutscenes and interiors, everything looks like you’re looking at it underwater due to the fuzziness blurriness. However, press the share button and you’ll see that it instantly turns much sharper and crisper. Gives me hope they may patch it

Really looking forward to the first major patch since release. Hopefully they will develop some of the gameplay as well as bug fixing moving forward too — despite their failing this is something that was done with Battlefield constantly. They review aspects of the game and update them accordingly — hopefully R$ will do things like sort out the lawmen etc rather than just concentrating on online adversary modes.

This is what I meant by my tweet. They sold it as there are these cool interactions that are like the peds have memories or something, but they are really nothing like that. They are as contrived as the first interaction.

Bought a ticket early on to go to saint Denise from Valentine.. get there and thought let me go to the tailor. As soon as i opened the door a man came out and pickpocketed me. I ran after him but lost him real quick. I remember getting so mad cause I had thought he stole all my money. But he didn't thank God. It felt so real though I came to a big city and got taken for a sucker.

@Benjo hates Red Dead, and now it’s viral. Also he likes cats.

...make smoking last longer...it would be really great if smoking animation lasted little longer, 3-5s for cigarettes and 5-8s for cigars. It would be amazing to just stand in the desert, at the edge of the cliff or in the middle of the forest and to smoke cigarette/cigar after long journey or hunting. Plz make smoking animation last longer. Please !

Horse perma-death, while not as bad as character perma-death would be, really adds a huge layer of danger/risk to the game. This is the main reason why I'm not going to risk getting a high quality horse - just going to stick with the freebies. Then I wont feel the sting half as bad. Maybe I'll get a high quality horse last - after I've used money to get everything else possible and have nothing else to spend cash on. Brutal mechanic!!

I would say that is the classy way of building character attachment. I like scenes in movies or games like that. However, this is a R* game. I want an old timey whorehouse with poker games and bar fights. Walk into the wrong room and enjoy a silly interaction. I don't want to watch pixels doing the deed per se, but owning a brother to make more money for my posse would be nice. Besides, F13 single player challenges satiated that curiosity.

Yeah kind of let down I can't have sex in the brothels... I am hoping they put it in for online. It would have been nice to date/romance some of the npc women if someone should choose too. Or at the very least a tugjob while getting wash.. hell all the scenes and animations are already there... No taking away from anything else.. it's an amazing game and it already has me neglecting my wife and work..lol

And here is something else I found. Well, not sure if maybe someone else found it but seems to be referring to the statue cave where you get the 3 gold bricks for solvings the sequence.