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At this point, it's almost irrelevant, because I spent two hours trying to get online last night and being error-coded into oblivion, sometimes, with two separate error codes/messages in the same attempt. Zero issues with other games. When Friday the 13th: The Game has a more consistent online matchmaking system than you do, you're doing it wrong.

If you are playing on PS4 and get griefed, when you respawn immediately crouch so that your griefer cannot see you. Pull up the player list with your left directional button. Locate the griefer on the list and click on them. Choose the option to see their PSN profile. Once there, choose the "..." option at the right and click on "Block". Log out and log back into the game. You will never see that player ever again. I did that on the first two days of playing. I blocked about 10 people. Now I am on servers without any di*ks, I have been playing all day today -- everyone is cool. The PvP griefers are a tiny asinine minority. At least so far, until R* puts in a more concrete way to deal with them like private lobbies, this method at least eliminates the griefers after one event with you. Like I said, after a couple of days and about 10 griefers getting blocked, I've been able to play peacefully all day today without anyone causing me any problems. I've had plenty of folks in my vicinity, but since I've been blocking the "must kill evah thing ah see" crowd, all of my fellow players have been peaceful and considerate.

I made a suggestion to R* that we be able to wear our vests unbuttoned open like a lot of the famous movie cowboys such as John Wayne or James Arness as Marshal Dillon anyone else down for that??

I hadn't done anything with other players, so I decided to check out the "Posse Up" option, and got thrown into a random group. Grabbed my headset and hoped for the best, not expecting much. I must have gotten lucky, because it turned out to be a great group, all friendly and on-mic. We did some story and stranger missions, got into a few shoot-outs, and swapped war stories for a few hours. Made some new Xbox friends, and had an overall great time. Just posting for those who don't have any friends who regularly play, and who don't expect much from randos. Go ahead and jump in... you never know!

Pics or it didn't happen.

My new policy is to largely ignore the grind and play for fun. Easier to say than do, though. Sure, I'll still hunt and sell etc - but only so long as it is fun. I'll hunt for a bit, fish for a bit, then do something else. I wont keep pace with the dedicated farmers and grinders, but so what? So long as i play enough to just about make sure I'm not totally over-powered in the death matches I'll cool with it. Glitches are tempting, but if boring, why bother? It's not so much a moral issue for me, as just a I want to play to have fun issue.

Theres no real easy or quick way to make money afaik. It's very grindy. But given the level locks, and that you only really need a very few items to get the most out of the game, it's probably better to just play and have fun and get money 'naturally'. I suspect that if you try and do hour after hour of grinding (whether hunting endless birds, or fishing salmon, or whatever) you'll get bored pretty quick. What do you really need: horse, varmint rifle, bow, fishing rod, shotgun. And if you have UE you already have 3 of those.

Last night a friend and I was out hunting by Fort Mercer. Having some fun and at one point we are chasing a deer and we chase it over a hill. As we go after there was another player and he immediately shoots and kills my friend with one shot. I hit him with a couple of shots to the head and claim our deer. My friend arrives and the other player shows back up and starts shooting at us again. We dispose of him quick cause we was ready for him. We head into Fort Mercer planning on this to blow over so we can get back to hunting. The players start coming in one at a time trying to get us. Each time we kill them and then the next and so forth. Before we know there ends up a dozen or so players outside trying to get to us. At this point I haven't died and my buddy has died only once. Others had died several times, location and cover and help a lot. So why are trying to figure out a plan on how to get out of this, some of them start fighting outside. So we just ride out and leave them to it. We kept playing for about an hour after that and the action was pretty non-stop there the whole time. I don't even know if they ever realized we even left. hahahaha

Co-worker and I were discussing this, I thought it was pretty interesting. Going off the timeline of RDR happening in 1911, and RDR2 about 12 years previous puts RDR2 in 1899. Here's what else was happening in America, and around the world at the time. US- William McKinley was president Queens & Staten Island merge with NYC Peace treaty from the Spanish-American war is ratified Great Blizzard happened in February, practically destroying Florida's citrus industry Mount Rainer National Park is established in Washington State Harriman starts the Alaska Expedition New Richmond, Wisconsin decimated by a tornado, 117 dead, over 200 others injured. Henry Bliss is the first automotive fatality in September, in NYC. Struck by an electic powered taxi, crushing his head and chest, as he exited a street car. Gunslinger and outlaw activity elsewhere in the wild west - Unforunately some of the more famous outlaws and gunslingers were dead by this time. But there were a few still raising hell along with Dutch's gang Wild Bill Hickok 1837-1876 Billy the Kid 1859-1881 John Wesley Hardin 1853 - 1895 Wyatt Earp 1848-1929 - Earp was mostly retired and living in San Francisco at the time of RDR2, (OK Corral happened in 1881) he was mostly an investor, investing in mines in Idaho and Colorado, and a consultant for silent cowboy movies, he was hired as a bounty hunter by LAPD in 1910 as his last official police position Butch Cassidy 1866 - 1908 - Butch was still active during the time of RDR2. He was imprissoned in 1894, and when he was released about 18 months later in 1896, he formed the Wild Bunch gang. They robbed the Union Pacific Overland Flyer in Wyoming June 1899. He tried to get Utah to give him amnesty when Utah became a state in 1896 but was declined. He then robbed another Union Pacific train in 1900, also in Wyoming. Butch then fled to South America in 1901, where he was believed to have robbed a bank in Argentina's Rio Gallegos. His death is uncertain, following a shootout with three soldiers of the Bolivian Army and local law it's believed Butch shot his partner Longabaugh in the forehead to put him out of his misery (they had numerous gunshot wounds to the lower body) before shooting himself in the temple. Doc Holliday 1851-1887 Kid Curry (Harvey Logan, a member of Butch Cassidy's Wild Bunch) 1867 - 1904 Elsewhere in the world - Australian colony leaders met to discuss creating a confederation and Canberra was named the capital of Australia. Also in Australia, Cyclon Mahina landed in Queensland, killing over 300. Boer War began in South Africa Finland's resistance to Russian tsar rule starts Terrorism (as we call it now) started in China, technically they're nationalists dubbed Boxers. Slogan Protect the country and Destroy the foreigner was shown in many streets. Majority were religious fanatics that feared the christian movement. Chinese gov. backed them. And, of course, it's the end of the 19th century.

Sounds good to me although I'd say leave them lit up for a few minutes . .....or maybe within a certain perimeter from where the offense occurred forcing them to leave the area or prepare to defend themselves. With the bounty you mentioned of course. What about allowing one posse to play the part of marshalls that can perhaps spawn in to the region where an offense takes place? ....but knowing trolls, they'll likely infiltrate that mechanic and it would backfire.

I simply don't enjoy being a walking billboard for a some company. If you think about it, it's the greatest con ever conceived: a clothing or apparel company has tricked consumers into PAYING THEM for the opportunity to wear conspicuously branded clothing and advertising said company or product. I'm as big of a W**** as there is, but I need to GET PAID if I'm going to sell a piece of my body, let alone my soul. If some superstar athlete/entertainer/performer wants to be paid to push a product, I don't judge them one bit. But to me, it's ludicrous that we, as consumers, pay top dollar for branded/badged clothing and accessories. I'm a good 6'4", and it's impossible for me to find pants that have a reasonable waist size (not everyone over 6' tall has a 40-in waist) matched to a proper inseam. I don't care if the pants are made by children's hands in a Malaysian sweatshop by Jacobean Mugatu, if it fits and I can hid the badge with a belt or remove it myself, I'm buying it. Unless they're yellow. I'll tolerate a lot of things, but yellow clothing isn't one of them. This isn't Zorro, the Gay Blade, this is real life, dammit. And yes, ZTGB is a real film:

In a PvEvP Enviroment, not all players are wanting to PvP. Yet they are on the map for all to see and nowhere to go and hide. Think we all know not all PvP players are actually looking for PvP. They want easy kills and then run away till you get tired of chasing them.

That is why I am still in Chapter 3 and doing as many of the side tasks as I can. Everytime I go to camp Dutch is in his tent," Arthur, we need to talk!" and I just walk on by.

Another good tip I've just discovered, small alligator skins sell for the same price as large ones ($3.50) but with the small ones you can stack under large carcasses

Ah, the wonders of Beta. I've always been dubious as to the way the "Wanted" system worked in both the story and online. Most of the time, it makes sense, but the definitely not random confluence of events I've experienced definitely makes for an inconsistent gaming experience at best, and is borderline unplayable at worst. It reminds me of the old "Rogue Agent" system in The Division. Experienced players/trolls would intentionally jump into the line of fire of a scoped player just to get nicked enough to have the unaware player labeled as "Rogue"--targeted on everyone's minimap, and turning them into a target. Realistically, that's how RDR2O should probably function: no minimap blips unless you have line-of-sight on another player, you hear gunfire (similar to the white blips in story mode), or they're Wanted for killing another player. That would do a lot to discourage senseless killing of other players; knowing you had a target on your back and stuck out like a sore thumb. And to remove it should cost Gold, unless you're killed. Maybe offer gold rewards in exchange for killing or turning in a Wanted player. Sure, it could be exploited to farm gold, but there could also be a cooldown period of 24 hours. After the first time a player is killed or captured after being Wanted, there isn't a gold reward for turning them in for another 24 hours. this would limit exploiting/farming.

I was bored hunting and went to rob the train as it passed though Bacchus Station. Not a good idea, well for the horse anyway. Stupid horse followed along side the train like it always does, right off the edge of the cliff. So if you're going to rob the train and Bacchus, bring a horse you don't care about losing

Got myself to chapter 6. I think I'm at 71% now. I think I'm at about 7 days spent playing... It's pretty much all Ive done on the weekends lol I may get back to the challenges soon, but I wanted to get through more of the story before I got sucked into online play. I mostly need to work on hunting requests and exotics. Everything else is either done, or inaccessible right now. I feel like now that I don't need to kill cougars for pelts or challenges, they attack me all the time... The satchel has proven to be very helpful though, you'll appreciate having it when you choose to continue on. Hell, I cooked/crafted a bunch of stuff way back in chapter 3 and I still haven't had to do so again. It's great for passive income too (not that you really need money). Go kill sh*t for a while and before you know it you have a few hundred in just meat. I always skin things when I kill them. I've had too many animals rot because I got distracted.

One would think quitting triggers it...

Totally get that. I'd rather play with RL friends too, but none of my friends are playing RDR.

Sounds like we need to catch each other online. Go have some fun.

I dont mind limited MTs. You know, pay a few quid for some cool cosmetics or what not. Or even some cash for extra DLC content (I did buy UE after all). Or even to get things a little bit quicker than most. Fair enough. But paying a lot of real cash for major advantage weaponry, horses, equipment, or even for sole access to stuff, or to get stuff massively quicker than others ... Seems a bit tawdry imho. Still, businesses gonna business.

For you my friend, Rockstar can sell you just 10 golden nuggets for only $99.99. Now friend don't shake your head. You do this 100 times, then you my friend can be able to turn in all those golden nuggets for one useless digital artifact that is completely useless outside the game. hehehehe I hate those microtransactions.

This weekend, every group I was with. We would ride to go do something and ended up after a few minutes that stopped and we did other things. I noticed after hunting a certain area animal spawns would slow way down. So we traveled and hunted, I'm not high enough to fish yet. We did missions, killed bad people, killed bad animals, robbed bad businesses. Just in case you haven't noticed everything we did we cause we was the good guys and they was bad. The bounties was just fake news.

Whatever you do, I repeat Do Not Do With The Buffalo. Instead of killing them, you will just kick them. They don't seem to appreciate that much. Just saying for a friend, who did it twice.

Right we can wear boots under/over pants collars unbuttoned or buttoned shirt sleeves up or down so why can’t we wear our vests unbuttoned.. I just wanna do this.

Actually i turned into an idiot last night.. But it was not the intention. I was hunting ducks at the lake, and i see a red dot approaching. I ran up hil in some bushes, and i saw that he was now at the spot at the lake, where i was, he looked up to me with his gun drawn, and i shot him..... Poor guy was trying to kill the bear that 3 seconds later killed me. I feel so bad!!!!! 😱

Sorry. Yes, I read your whole post. Yes, I read that your gun disappeared. I've played two characters to above level 15 and never had that happen. At the end of the day though, you want exploits. If you don't like the way the game is, wait till it releases, don't play the beta. Oh and don't try to act high and mighty when you are sitting there saying "Hey guys, how do I cheat? But don't judge me, yo."

You restrict theirs or they restrict yours. PvP should be an option between at least players who both consent. It shouldn't be a player trying to do one thing while another decides to shoot them in the back, cause it is only fun for one of them.

@McLawDiz great points, I agree 100%. Everyone who responded had good points actually. Just to put in my two cents in addition to everyone else's suggestions .... (although some may have already been mentioned in this thread), my main concerns are... - Definitely get rid of the pink dots, maybe have an option to only see pink blips If those people are in your Posse or something. - Take the gamer ID logo hovering above my head. Again, maybe make it optional for those who want it, but I personally don't want to hide behind a rock when someone is chasing me down, and they know where I am because it says my username above my head. It's stupid get rid of it. Wouldn't it be nice to ride by someone, and not know if they were an NPC or not? - Stop moving my damn camp. I logged on yesterday, a million miles from my camp. It took me 20 minutes to get there, because I had to work my way around all those groups of three or four people who were evidently going to ambush me as the waypoint went right by them. As a result, I got literally 10 seconds away from arriving, and Cripps moved my Camp from Blackwater somewhere near the swamps. I don't need a babysitter. Let me move my camp where I want and when I want. - Bring in a better bounty system. If someone shoots you, put a hefty bounty on them, and make it available for other players to collect the bounty if they can get there before the law does. And if they don't have the money to pay it, implement a system where they have to spend a certain amount of time in jail or something . And maybe make it impossible for them to see you after you respawn for five minutes or something, so they can't just keep shooting you as soon as you respawn. - As several people mentioned in other posts as well, don't charge $1.50 for a can of beans and only give $1.00 or something for a gold wedding band. It doesn't make sense. Keep the same economy/prices as single player for buying and selling, I think that would be a big Improvement. - Have some missions that are available to do solo... I miss the original RDR where you could choose from a dozen or so gang hideouts and just go do them by yourself. Why are all the missions 2 to 4 players? Again, this is probably just a repeat of several other people's complaints. I have only put about 7 hours into online play, and I have not been shot yet... But I know it's coming. I've just been playing very conservatively, and sticking close to my camp and just doing some hunting and stuff nearby . I mean, what fun is that? Having to stay within 100 yards of your camp because of griefers? I have ridden by several players and just got very very lucky not being shot yet. I literally have not really had very much fun with this, because I'm just worried about getting ambushed. I've done two or three missions and got paid what I consider to be chump change. Not even worth the ammo I used. I know for a fact I have to join a posse which I'm looking for right now. These are just my main concerns... I have a ton of other ones that I won't list, just basic ones as already mentioned, like changing appearances and side missions and stuff would be a lot of fun. Hopefully Rockstar listen to the players opinions and take it into account. Until I find a posse, I don't know that I will be spending much time with the online. I have a feeling everything will be reset when beta is over and the full launch starts. Who knows? LOL

Oh and go on the defense and kill them first? Hmmm wow I would’ve never thought of that! What a great idea cuz you can totally kill 3 guys and get to the mission start point before they respawn and come back! Wow I must be an idiot for not thinking of that before! Why don’t you try it and come back and tell me how it works out for you. Id bet money you get 2 of 3 down and then those will have respawned by time you get the 3rd down then your in the same predicament that you were before you started. And MAYBE I’m bored with single player. I have a million dollars and nothing else to buy or unlock so I’m sorry I enjoy the idea of creating a character and actually having sh*t to work for and unlock now! But hey guys I guess all of us that are like me and hate trolls have to stop playing cuz this dudes obviously from R* and has all the answers and he says not to play the game anymore if we don’t like the idiots that aren’t even playing right.

I am not sure why everyone's come back for how hideous the characters are is "Oh press X and there are more options" Yeah we know! Fighting an ugly face just to look "okay", or "Decent" is not what any of us want. Not to mention only 2-3 of the presets have ANY hope at all of looking like anything other than old granny Murfree. So everyone is using the same head base and everyone looks the same, or related at least. There are 11 base heads per gender, that should be enough of a variety... but unfortunately most of them are a lost cause and not amount of editing can save them. So everyone picks the same ones. Also, sometimes a character looks okay from the front, but from the side they have no chin and a weak jaw no matter what you do. The characters we play are not as well done as the NPC's PERIOD. We don't even have eyelashes! I wish they would not make stupid expressions in game. The characters are always smoothing there lips flat and licking their lips. The facial expressions are so awful its not even funny. Lets not kid ourselves, otherwise if everyone acts like the character creation is good enough, than Rockstar will never fix it.

What if you kill a player, you spawn on the map for say 10 seconds. That way Trolls will be lit up like a Christmas Tree all day long. Put a bounty on them where they get shot at by NPCs as well as PCs. Trolls don't like it when they can be seen and everyone is against them.

Based on what we've seen so far with the current economy, it's likely that R* is artificially depressing the in-game economy during beta so that when the actual online portion goes "gold" or "live", there won't be players with mountains of gold going hog wild in the online store. It makes sense, in a way, but they'd be better off publicly declaring now that all beta progress (apart from gained trophies/achievements) will be wiped when the game goes live--you'll retain your player as designed, but your progress will reset. That way, we'd be able to test the economy for stability and how reasonable the progression is, because the way it is now isn't even a joke, it's like an off-color joke your drunk racist uncle tells you at a holiday meal after his fifth cup of spiked egg nog.

Different beast, but I used it in both GTA:Online and The Division. Blocking players using the Xbox User block. I often kept a list of players that I didn't care for and found them still in my online game instances. Yes, I am fluent in blocking players using this step. Surprises me at times when there are still players that I can play with online.

He really knows how to use that auto aim. He's obviously really talented.

Exactly. SO ridiculous. I grew up on in the Atari, ColecoVision and NES days, back when gaming was you know - about gaming. This generation wants everything and nothing is ever good enough. Utterly ridiculous. These entitled gamers now days care more about fancy graphics and effects than the actual game. Never happy, always complaining.

It's likely just a feature that hasn't been added yet. Thought I saw someone post they found a guy that says he'll buy the horses but he can't do it yet for whatever reason.

Doubtful. Quantity does not equal quality.

Well, some of us enjoy having to watch our backs...

You can also setup a campfire anywhere to craft those items yourself if you have meats for it. Just open your weapon wheel with LB/L1 and hit RB/R1 to switch to the page that has it on the bottom of the wheel. The coffee pot will be there as well.

Quality thread, and quality replies. I hope you guys are using Rockstar's feedback forms: https://www.rockstargames.com/reddeadredemption2/online/feedback Don't forget you can tailor the form to fit your suggestions, and you can submit as many as you like. This is the best way to have Rockstar consider these awesome ideas Please continue to discuss and formulate your ideas here too though! An idea I submitted that hasn't been mentioned in this thread here yet: - Hotels: Renting a room should be available in major towns/cities. This gives the player the ability to "rest" in a nice bed for a few seconds (60 tops) to fully restore AND fortify all (gold) cores for a day. You then can change clothes as well.

I read a lot of comments on here. I just started playing red dead on line today. And unfortunately I could not complete my first free roam mission, because I had one idiot who will not leave me alone. I was trying to meet a stranger in blackwater, and as soon as I enter Blackwater I was shot dead. I had no clue what happened, so when I respawned I tried to continue to the stranger. With the same idiot shot my horses and then shot me again. I respawned, went into my map to try to find him, and he shot me again. I just turned the game off, and came here to find a solution to this. And what I’ve read so far is not reassuring. I don’t like the ps idea. Had bad experiences with idiot switching to passive and you can’t retaliate. Best idea I heard so far is a bouncy and jail system. Rockstar should track the amount of players killed by a single player and free roam. So if you’re out there fishing, or hunting, or maybe just going for a ride on your Horse. If someone comes up behind you and just needlessly murderers you, they will instantly have a bounty on their head. You then will spawn fairly close to that person, so you could be the first to retaliate and collect the bounty. Then Said person would be in jail, and will not be able respawn to free roam for 24 hours. After leaving jail if that person needlessly murders another player he would then have a body count, and an increase in bounty. With each murderer body count and Bounty will increase +24 hours in jail. This will give us players that’s just trying to play the game and needlessly get interrupted by some idiot, the satisfaction of retaliating and getting something in return in the form of the bounty. Plus knowing that they won’t be back to bother us. And for those players who likes to constantly “watch their back’s” Will have an added intensive level of watching your back with the bounty on your head.

Ability to alter appearance More sellable items or places to sell stuff More shops in north map region More modes of transport - balloons, hand rail car, paddle steamers More things to do in camp - archery target, horseshoes, banjo, crafted decorations Crafting clothing options Shows on at theatre and movies More life in towns - hangings, brawls, domestic fights etc Ability to pat dogs

I put the link in your other thread and I will stick it here too for anyone else wondering. Go here: https://www.rockstargames.com/reddeadredemption2/online/feedback You can directly give Rockstar your ideas and feedback on their site. I agree that something needs to be changed as well. If you have an idea on what would be better share it here and I will send similar feedback.

You have to eat twice a day and decent sized portions. After a few days, your weight will balance out. Eating a crap ton of food in one sitting won't suddenly make you gain weight. Just eat 2 meals with some extra for like 5 to 7 in-game days and you shouldn't be underweight anymore.

Whats the money exploit? Are you talking about the dirty sheep ****ers? If you are, thats not really a money exploit. Caught one of my friends doing this last night when i joined her game. The entire farm was filled with dead sheep. She didn't seem to to proud about it when i called her a dirty sheep ****er. lol

Your own words betray you based on the preponderance of the evidence: Not using "normie" but the equivalent. You can lie to me and lie to yourself, but the truth will set you free.

My point is that if you kill for no reason you are an asshole, as of now free roam killing grants you nothing that you cannot get from playing matches with other like minded players. therefore having "open range killing" go unchecked you are going to run people out of the game. the people who are going to get run off are the ones i want to play with. so if the game remains in its current state, a lot of good players will not be playing. as it is now you will have the world as death match like you want and you will be playing with the 5-10%(mostly under 18) who agree that it is fun, while the rest of us move on. thats how online games die. unfortunatly we need to say our opinions over and over because devs make games in thier own vision so it takes 10 of us for every one that is happy to make them see the issues. i have no issue with your requesting it not be changed. but when i am able i will rebutle every argument you make to hopefully change the game to be something fun for me to play. after all not one of us paid $60+ so that others could have fun while we play and do not.

I think removing players from the map would solve the problem. Like I've said before, you can't troll me if you can't find me. I don't really want a passive mode, I would rather it remain one mode that EVERYONE can enjoy. You still have to watch your back, but you're far less likely to encounter people that log on strictly to ruin the game for others. That's exactly what you're saying...

Something really strange happened to me earlier.. I passed another player heading in the opposite direction on a trail, he didn't shoot at me, I didn't shoot at him. We just passed each other and went about our business, I nearly fell off my horse from shock.