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See, I bought FC5 before I bought RDR2, it was on sale and the ultimate or gold edition or whatever was really cheap, so I grabbed it, I started to play it and it was pretty good. I had no clue what to do as I hadnt let learned how to play an open world type of game, the version I bought came with 3 dlc's plus fc3, one of the dlcs was a martian thing, and it has these crazy martian weapons, I found out early on I can equip them in my sp game and well, all of a sudden the game was too easy as I could literally melt you into a pile of goo from a few hundred yards away and there is nothing you can do to defend against it lol. That was fun for a minute but I havent even begun doing missions or understanding the story etc.. so I knew I was going to have go back to basic weapons and grind it out, I think I learned how to fish and I went and found a couple helping hand buddies to do a scout mission on a bridge or something then I bought rdr2 and I havent played another game since, at some point Ill go back to it and see if I can stay interested and finish it, after seeing rdr2 its going to be tough. I want it to be good, we will see.

Thanks buddy, thats a good resource to have.

Ok I see, thanks guys for all the info. I am starting to understand more and more how the mechanics of this type of game work and what they mean by in game transactions, so you want better gear but dont want to grind away for hours to get it, you can spend real money and buy virtual gold and use that gold to buy the better gear. I get that, ok cool, I think Ill just grind it out myself, but its good to know.

I think the parlay kind of does that, you get 10 minutes anyway lol.

Ahh ok, I didnt understand, so yeah I have gold anyway I get a 1 year at a time, for any games I might play online, so I didnt do it for rdr2 I just already had it, I thought you meant you had to pay an additional fee or something, sorry I misunderstood.

Lets face it, they spent a lot of time developing the game, and most of that went to making a deadline extension of a year, so they couldnt delay again, although I bet they would have preferred too. Deadlines often ruin new games, because investors want their money back and dont think the added time and cost will make a difference to them, but as you can see R* did an incredible job on the Sp, now as a sacrifice they had to release before they were ready, I am sure they arent psyched about that, but give them time, remember what they gave us here, they need time, we need to be patient, if it is too beta for some, then it is probably best to leave it be for a few months and come back after a while to see what has changed. I have every confidence that when they are done, this game will kick ass!! We are very spoiled and people are getting inpatient and demanding, it is frustrating for everyone involved I am sure. We cant change what has happened, all we can do is have faith and give Rockstar the time they need. This is a great time to use feedback as it can and in many cases will affect the final product.

Also, 100 feet down river from Cumberland Falls, you can catch your limit in Sockeye Salmon in 5 minutes, and it is a short ride to the butcher in Valentine. I went back and forth 4 times last night and you make 25$ each time, so it was 100$ in about 30 minutes of game time.

wait, you cant just play it online on ps4? you have to purchase something else?

Damn, I cant even imagine, I just started online, when everyone got hot about it I was just wrapping up my second play through of story mode and I set up a character and tried the very first mission to get a horse, I didnt even finish that mission lol and just went to play a third play through of story, and it was awesome, the best I had. But this left me out in the cold on the online, then I didnt get the online part, like I was intimidated by immediately pairing up with others when I felt like I was not ready, etc.. So I put it off til last week, now I am trying and it has good and bad, and I do enjoy it, but from level 4 where I am at now, (level 7 on my other profile) it is hard to even imagine you guys over level 100 and with all the fixings and trimmings, that just seems light years away., but im going to keep plugging away. I would love to be able to buy a good horse or do a treasure hunt, I cant wait, and I hope this beta works itself out pretty soon, it is getting warm out and once it hits 60 degrees I shut this thing off til next winter.

Im excited to hear you can buy a Trotter, how long did that take and what did it cost, like what level did you have to achieve to be able to buy this horse? I still have the horse I stole for Clay Davis, its a nice looking horse with very low stats. Im wondering if I moved too quickly in that mission and maybe there was a better horse, but I was thinking hurry up and get out of here. Story mode I had the rose grey Arabian, the White Arabian, The Trotter, the grey and white one and a Turkomon for the swamps and big fights. I really miss my horses online, I am at like level 4 or some silly thing like that, when will I be able to upgrade my horse.

Can I just go up to Lake Elizabeth and tame and beak another white Arabian or is that not available online? In single player I had a Trotter, two Arabians, and a Turk, I would love to get a better horse than this one I currently have, but buying one is not even a possibility for a long long time.

Thanks buddy, all god stuff and I will def try that join/quit thing if that happens repeatedly. I think the first time it happened was the worst because I didnt understand it I didnt know they could lead my horse even though I set the settings not to allow it, I didnt know what their intentions were so I panicked, I shot at them for taking my horse, of course they baited me, and I understand that now, at the time I was very confused and angry and wondered why are they following me and why are they hanging around my camp riding their horses over all my stuff and just acting disrespectful. That combined with the confusion over my account mistake I made and looking for my gold was just too much, but im past that now, over it, and ready to forge on. Ive been killed since and for no reason by some asshat over nothing in the back of the head while entering my camp, but whatever I dont let that bother me, it is annoying but meh, not worth getting upset over. Thanks again for your comments.

Fair enough, but after 40 years of gaming this is the only game that has really stressed me out this way, and to be fair my anxiety disorder is something that developed over the past 10 years, in that time I have found that games like rdr2 do actually help me, they allow me to "shut it off" my problem normally is I can not stop thinking / worrying about things, even if it doesnt make sense or I cant change it, it is a huge burden, but playing immersive games really takes me away, I dont worry or over think stuff, I just play and have a good time. The mulitplayer experience is new to me as I have almost always avoided it with a few exceptions, boxing online, golf, COD WW2, and Star Wars Bft 2 online, and all those were very pleasant online. Well boxing is full of cheats and poor sports, lol but otherwise its good. I was overly confused, that didnt help, I couldnt get straight answers on things, that triggers desperation and then what I thought things were like, I foudn out they were not and so all that in the same two days really took a toll, but I am nothing if not self aware and adaptable. So, I am giving it another try and with a better more clear understanding of things, and I think I will be just fine. Im a very active and outdoor person, but in winter I do not go outside at all, ever, I hate the cold, I have several sever injuries that make it hard and I cant afford a fall, anyway the lack of natural sunlight gives me that season depression stuff so I made it my plan last year, in winter I play my xbox, and this winter was the first time I have really done that since the xbox 360 was new. It really worked, 8 weeks of gaming playing only rdr2 was very therapeutic for me, I loved it. Now winter here is nearly over, I can start going out again, I compete as a semi pro disc golfer and that keeps me busy all spring summer and fall, but from Thanksgiving til April fools day, its all about the games. The only stressful thing all winter was trying to figure out this online lol and after two difficult days, I sorted it out with the help of a bunch of super nice people here on these boards, their kindness towards me instead of flaming me or making fun really made all the difference and was a turning point. I didnt expect that at all, I figured mostly I would hear what you said, dont play, but not a single person said that, and what you said was not offensive to me at all, I completely understand the comment and I know you weren't being sarcastic. Thanks again to each of you, hope ill see out there, when I do say hello before you fire.

Well, my username is one incarnation of my online persona since 2000. Ive been lumper for nearly 20 years online, when it is taken, usually because I set up an account that I forgot about lol I end up with a derivative of lumper like lump, or lump321 or lumper4ever, lumper1 etc... So my gamer tags are lump321 on one profile and lumper4ever on another. When I started online in forums and building gaming pcs back pre Y2K, I was lumperthegreat for a time on 3dmark a benchmarking site, later just lumper. It means to me, a person who has taken many lumps, but it can mean lots of things. one who delivers lumps, or to say lumper? I damn near killed her!! lol sorry stupid joke,

I keep seeing a message that says, dont forget to vote for the best reply I think or something like that, I am not 100% sure. How do I do that? I am looking but cant see a vote option anywhere, I am sure I am missing it. Thanks for any info

Xbox lumper4ever and sometimes lump321 I play both profiles.

I just wanted to thank everyone that contributed to this thread, Thank you. I let my anxiety and confusion get to me and it really had me crawling for the door, but you guys convinced me to stick it out and try a few things and as a result I made it to the other side. I figured out my mistakes, and I was able to get a foot hold in the community online and I think going forward it is going to be just fine. I had a pretty good experience last night even though I was chased twice, killed once shot in the back of the head while trying to get to my camp and eventually I was surrounded and attacked while fishing by at least 8 players, it was intense, they were on the cliff's along the Dakota River as well as on shore all around me, and across the river, I must have snoozed as I never saw them coming, and there were a lot of dots. I survived it however and it never felt like being harassed or hassled like the guys did to me the other day that tried to take my horse and were just following me to get a reaction, that sucked, but this was, well fun. I didnt mind the attack, at first I thought, are you kidding me, 8 of you to attack one new guy fishing, ? but then I killed 5 of them and made my way home safely, the remaining dots didnt even give chase. So to me thats not griefing, or whatever, its playing the game, I wish they had left me alone, but as long as I have a fighting chance and understand the situation then Im good with it. So thanks again for encouraging me to stick it out a bit longer and try a few things to make the game a little more enjoyable. Its embarrassing to get overwhelmed by anxiety and then sleep on it for two days and then feel stupid for having been aggravated or upset. I was able to retrieve my gold, buy a fishing pole, and head to a few spots where I can catch my limit in Salmon just 5 minutes from Valentine and just fished my way into the next level. I really want to try to follow the instructions they gave me in the beginning back in Blackwater about going to the various Sheriffs for work or something, but when I went to the "scales icon" in yellow, it started searching for other players, presumably because it is 2 or more players I guess for whatever it is they want me to do? Anyway it never connected or found other players so I wasn't able to do the mission, so I just went back to fishing. Hopefully that isn't a constant problem where there aren't enough people on the server or not any that are looking to do those missions as they are early missions that people probably did right away when they started playing. Thanks again, you guys really made the difference for me, this community is really strong, and I like that. I do enjoy a good fight as much as I enjoy the respect of waving and passing another player who is doing their own thing and not trying to force them to engage me, being citizens in this map we are all neighbors and citizens of a community and to me being neighbors and helping one another and protecting our neighbors is a lot of fun too, it is actually satisfying to me to see another player, say hello, then ride away to go hunting or fishing and have that be the entire encounter it just feels normal to me, like in life. There will be plenty of conflict, and mission specific stuff to do, but in the meantime in the main lobby or world that we are in together I like feeling part of a larger community, its a good feeling.

Im sorry about that, I realize now how old this discussion is, and that this has been going on. I am very new to online multiplayer games, I have gone out of my way to avoid them until now. This game is just to awesome to not try and enjoy the online part, and to be honest it is really neat and I would like to level up and keep going. I was attacked last night by 6 or 8 red dots, they actually surrounded me while I was fishing, somehow with only a repeater I was able to defend myself kill 5 or 6 of them and get away and back to my camp, from the get go, it was fun, not a hassling activity, to me it was appropriate, I mean yeah Im an unprepared noob, but they werent exactly Jesse James worthy in a fight and it seemed like a possible natural event, unlike the people who sometimes harass. Even if I had been killed it wouldnt have bothered me either as it felt like an unbalanced fair fight. I laughed about it as it happened thinking, ok well this sucks, but its the wild west, so lets do this. Anyway I said in my post that I am a noob to all this and I meant that, so I apologize for the age old complaint, lol I get it and feel much better about the game today. I woried out my issues with my accounts and that was a big part of understanding what I was doing wrong. Now I look forward to grinding away to get my levels up. In the meantime Ill just do my best to avoid problems, and fish, hunt, and take part in a couple missions when I can to advance and gain xp. Im glad I stuck with it a few more times to give it a chance.

I just had to restart the online part of the game. I am at the very beginning I just got a horse, and havent done anything else. I have 10 gold bars gifted to me by Rockstar, will I lose them if I change my guy? See I messed up and started playing the wrong profile, so my gold was gifted to my other player, the one I first set up, I hated so I started another on my other profile, I got to level 7 on that one, and was looking for my gold so I could advance, but now, to get the gold, I had to revert to my first profile set up, which is a character I hate, I just dont like him at all, can I change him? Problem is I set up 2 step verification using my other profile like a dope and now the only way I can have the reward is to play under that profile, and so I dont mind starting over, I wasnt having any fun anyway, But I cant stomach this inbred looking hick I have now, I need a new dude Thanks

I have done both those areas and never seen a Robin, but I guess if you look at it logically the game will eventually spawn one, so I guess that is my answer, just hang out at the river til I find one. uggg lol I hate these small birds they ae very difficult to see and find and then it is a crap shoot to their quality. Ill get it.

LOL nice!! Yeah I have actually, well, dynamite arrows, I love to just shut it all down, if I am going to ambush you for some reason and you have wagons or a caravan, etc.. Im blowing up the first and last wagon and then going to explosive shotgun rounds to remove heads one at a time, lots of fun, headless corpses everywhere.

That was very helpful and informative, thank you very much, this is good info, and I cant thank you enough. Ragee503, I also like your approach, I personally at least for now, wont be doing that, but I get it and I really think you might be on to something. Again, I think my anxiety is more the problem, when I dont quite understand things, I get very frustrated, so when things go a way I didnt know they could or wold, like the incident at my camp, I just get overwhelmed with emotion and anger and frustration and then its a wrap, lol im spent once that happens. I cant help it though, sadly it is just how it is for me. To be clear and fair, I am not against being killed, and occasionally it is even funny, its just when I am trying to mind my own business and learn the game and I have more questions than answers and then people who could have been very helpful decide instead to just be jerks and hassle me I take that personally.

I think for the sake of revenue and draining every penny they can out of audiences, that they would be foolish not to release it on pc, I wont be playing it on pc, although I would love too I no longer build or own gaming rigs capable of playing high quality games at high frame rates, so for me, now that consoles for $450 can deliver this level of game, I cant see going back, It isnt that I dont love the pc advantages, I totally get it and would love it, but I just cant afford to build a good gamer anymore. Too add to sales figures my guess is you will see a release to pc in the near future but who knows?

That is an interesting thought and I really havent explored Blackwater much at all, just run through it and to grab supplies occasionally. Yes I went to the building that was renovated in St Denis and as I approached at night the lights all came up, the bell started to ring and John actually had some dialogue, he said, something about Arthur.

Lol these are great!! See when that happens I capture "what just happened" so I can look at it again later or show my friends, I have a small collection going of unique things, like Abigail's plate floating above her head as she eats, or stage coaches getting airborne, etc.. just save em for later, always a good laugh. My wife doesnt play but loves to watch those clips I save, she will often say, hey put on some clips, show me what you are up too. She loves Arthur and the story and will sit and watch me play over watching a tv show. Im trying to get her to try it, she is not a gamer and never has been but she actually expressed an interest in trying to control Arthur and learn the controller, so I'm really psyched RDR2 might be what brings her into the gaming world.