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So I don't expect a definitive answer, but more of a speculation. 

As we know Red Dead Online will be starting in beta phase and this one question seems to supersede my previous curiosities.

Will progress get reset when the game exits beta phase?

This is something that I hope Rockstar speaks on. I would hate to spend so many hours just to get reset.

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35 minutes ago, AhBoop said:

So I don't expect a definitive answer, but more of a speculation. 

As we know Red Dead Online will be starting in beta phase and this one question seems to supersede my previous curiosities.

Will progress get reset when the game exits beta phase?

This is something that I hope Rockstar speaks on. I would hate to spend so many hours just to get reset.

I highly believe that your stats will not be reset, and I think Rockstar is smart enough not to do such a thing. Honestly, I think the Red Dead Online will be the REAL thing, but the updated version name will say "Beta" and they will keep making updates to it. Once they are a month or so in Red Dead Online, the version of the patch will no longer say "Beta" rather the actual version.

For example, The beta versions will say "version 1.00(beta)" and the final version of Red Dead Online will say "version 1.02" (without the word beta in it) if that makes sense. This is just my guess on it. 

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I'd expect it to be reset. That seems to be the normal procedure for PC games. But this is the first RS game I've played from Day 1 release. I am ignorant as to how RS has previously handled this sort of thing with their other online multiplayer games. Going from Beta to Live. I'd hope for the best. Plan for the worst.

I can't wait for it to come out!

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The fact is that we simply don't know.  I guess it would depend on what changes would have to be made before final release, resetting servers, etc.  

The other thing to consider is that this isn't a closed beta or one only available for pre-orders, etc.  This is open to everyone who bought the game so everyone will be on a level playing field when the beta begins.  In other words, there isn't going to be anyone sitting on the sidelines during the beta who will be at a disadvantage when final launches.  With that in mind, there is no reason to start anyone over for that reason (which is good news IMO).

Unless something requires a big fix , I also have a feeling this beta will continue up to the final update as Bandit alluded to.  I think the main point here is that they wanted to give RDO the "beta" label so folks will understand that it will launch with possible issues that will need to be addressed.  .....to keep the naysayers from totally slamming it.  There is only so much they can test internally without an official closed or open beta.  ......and even with those there are usually problems that crop up when online components of games are released.  

In a nutshell, if I had to guess, I would say that R* likely plans that progress would be retained by players barring any unexpected problems that would require a reset.

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Thanks for the response, guys. I would like to reiterate that I'm aware nobody knows at the moment and the "why" behind starting in beta phase or how it works. I haven't seen discussion on it so I figured I would initiate the topic. Given this is the only established Red Dead forum I have found (besides the GTA forums).

Personally I'm leaning more towards the idea of it NOT being reset, and as Kean points out "there isn't going to be anyone sitting on the sidelines during the beta who will be at a disadvantage when final launches.  With that in mind, there is no reason to start anyone over for that reason". This is very true and Is likely the case.

 

 

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If they do say that everything will be reset after they leave the beta testing phase then I absolutely will not play until beta testing is over. I am even debating on playing now because of the "risk" of something happening and things being wiped by accident. I don't want to invest like 10+ hours into it and it all be wiped out or something. 

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33 minutes ago, liquidfire said:

If they do say that everything will be reset after they leave the beta testing phase then I absolutely will not play until beta testing is over. I am even debating on playing now because of the "risk" of something happening and things being wiped by accident. I don't want to invest like 10+ hours into it and it all be wiped out or something. 

The online isn't even available yet so there is no risk of playing the game now.  The campaign has nothing to do with it at this point.  You won't lose any of that.

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17 hours ago, Kean_1 said:

The online isn't even available yet so there is no risk of playing the game now.  The campaign has nothing to do with it at this point.  You won't lose any of that.

I am not talking about the story, just the online beta. I am saying when the beta testing is open, I will likely be waiting until it is out of beta to play online since I wouldn't want to risk losing online progress. 

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41 minutes ago, liquidfire said:

I am not talking about the story, just the online beta. I am saying when the beta testing is open, I will likely be waiting until it is out of beta to play online since I wouldn't want to risk losing online progress. 

Ah, ok.   Yeah, assuming it's even an issue I guess. 

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My experiences with Beta Testing, is usually you get some vanity item to show that you participated and you restart from the beginning upon release.  Will Rockstar do this, will depend on how much they may have to change from Beta to actual online. 

For example, Ubisoft/Massive had Alpha Testing, Closed Beta, Open Beta, Final Beta (TD1) and are finally releasing the actual game as The Division 2.  It has taken them over 3 years to release the actual game,  cause The Division was actually nothing more then Beta Testing.  I don't expect that from Rockstar.

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I suspect they wont reset because I think the beta is going to be released without a great deal of content simliar to GTA Online. The big money maker for Rockstar is releasing new content slowly, new ways to earn more money and new things to buy with that money.

 

When GTA Online launched, you could rob convenience stores for like $20-50, or you could do side missions for like $1,000-5,000. Nothing compared to the $20,000-250,000 you could net during heists. I'm hoping we get more than side missions for Red Deads launch, but I suspect what we are given on launch is going to be peanuts compared to what we will see in 6 months. So unless there's some major exploit or bug where players are becoming stupid rich, I don't think they will reset. 

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I think you shant worry fellers... From my GTA experience when someone used an exploit to get rich they either get banned or get their bank account wiped.
Even if anything big happens to the point where they need a full server wipe or rollback, or just wipe everything for a fresh start when it comes out of the BETA, they will probably give people something for their efforts, I can't remember how many times I had cash going into my GTA:O bank account because R* wanted to give it for free.

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I don't remember where or how long ago I read about it (couldn't be more than a couple months ago), but IIRC, R* is only calling it a Beta because of how things went when they launched GTA Online, sooo many bugs, so it should essentially be LIVE but since they expect problems again, they're calling it Beta so people don't complain about them launching a product that doesn't even work properly. 

I don't remember if they touched base on whether or not things will be reset once it's out of the Beta, but I'd imagine not, since once GTA Online was working properly, I still had all the cash I had robbed from people (The required intro race quest was bugged, so couldn't even start it, but still had freeroam somewhat so just kept mugging everyone til I got bored with it).

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