Hypnoskully Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Dont want to brag but if i have a run, i'm doing the same killing like the one in the vid, especially with the varmint, some 27 kills, 6 deaths for example is totally possible. And this, without this totally annoying, noobish "throwing myself on the ground before shooting because i cant kill the enemy fast enough without doing this" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coca-Cola Kid Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 ALCON Haha y'all arguing over some thing like a bunch of 2nd graders. 1. Auto aim is definitely easier than free aim, hence its name "aim assist" 2. There is nothing wrong with using auto aim, if that helps you. 3. Have some humility and common sense...don't create a rhetorical post IOT brag about your video game prowess (hand/eye coordination, reaction time?) But thank you for the entertaining read. God Bless. v/r The Coca-Cola Kid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archbell Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 What an entertaining thread this turned out to be, been real busy lately so I haven't been on the forum much so I feel a bit late to the party but it's been hilarious to read through the comments nonetheless. Poor moron trying and failing to promote his mediocre content gets salty when others critic his stupidity and lack of skill, I love it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypnoskully Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 I mean, sorry if stepping one someones toes but: players who use diving in fire fights arent worth anything. They are just noobs needing extra-aiming time because the arent good and quick enough and so are diving around like some stupid seal.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starry Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Hypnoskully said: I mean, sorry if stepping one someones toes but: players who use diving in fire fights arent worth anything. They are just noobs needing extra-aiming time because the arent good and quick enough and so are diving around like some stupid seal.... Yet the same could be said for the players who can't aim without Auto aim 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YodaMan 3D Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 17 minutes ago, Starry said: Yet the same could be said for the players who can't aim without Auto aim 🤣 Yes, that would be correct. Everyone sucks at the game. If you auto-aim, you suck. If you free aim you suck. Great there goes our self-esteem out the window. Thanks Everyone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starry Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 17 minutes ago, YodaMan 3D said: Yes, that would be correct. Everyone sucks at the game. If you auto-aim, you suck. If you free aim you suck. Great there goes our self-esteem out the window. Thanks Everyone. I can agree with this. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coca-Cola Kid Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1) Auto Aim is easier, so if you use it and claim your the best, I can see how someone might question your logic, especially with no "official" metric in which to measure players against other players. 2) Those of you who are saying people who use auto-aim suck, not all of us think we are awesome because of computer assisted kills, myself included. 3) Not everyone has the time or desire to put in the time to master video game shooting skills. Thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YodaMan 3D Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, The Coca-Cola Kid said: 1) Auto Aim is easier, so if you use it and claim your the best, I can see how someone might question your logic, especially with no "official" metric in which to measure players against other players. 2) Those of you who are saying people who use auto-aim suck, not all of us think we are awesome because of computer assisted kills, myself included. 3) Not everyone has the time or desire to put in the time to master video game shooting skills. Thanks. I personally was joking. There is a competition for some in online gaming. I personally suggest having fun should be your priority. So what, take longer to get from point A to Point B. Did you have fun doing it? Did you run with friends or do it solo? Do you have a story to tell that would make us laugh, when we compare stories? My gaming skills aren't what they used to be and after playing a game with my son this weekend and watching him in action. I rolled my eyes a lot, picked him up off the ground a lot, but we had fun but had different techniques. I also had to set there and listen to him explain my playstyle went out with the dinosaurs, Through all that, I smiled, I laughed. I let him have his fun. Then I reminded him I was still his father and told him to respect his elders or get grounded. We went on and had a happy new year with a lot less toxicity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coca-Cola Kid Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 No worries, nothing taken personally, I am humble and content with my RDR2 Online skills (or lack there of). Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuDawg Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 23 hours ago, The Coca-Cola Kid said: Not everyone has the time or desire to put in the time to master video game shooting skills. Well.. no one gets good at manual aim if they use auto aim constantly. Besides, people don't have to 'master' manual aim to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuDawg Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 On 1/1/2019 at 8:41 PM, Hypnoskully said: Dont want to brag but if i have a run, i'm doing the same killing like the one in the vid, especially with the varmint, some 27 kills, 6 deaths for example is totally possible. And this, without this totally annoying, noobish "throwing myself on the ground before shooting because i cant kill the enemy fast enough without doing this" The Varmint rilfe is the noob rifle to kill newbs with. Seriously.. it only kills newbies. Also, I throw myself all over the ground all the time. No sure whats 'noobish' about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coca-Cola Kid Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) 40 minutes ago, HuDawg said: Well.. no one gets good at manual aim if they use auto aim constantly. Besides, people don't have to 'master' manual aim to use it. Both of your statements are true, however if I were to switch to manual, my current status of “not being good” will decrease to “so bad he should’t bother playing” and honestly, I don’t want to start from scratch with learning it because ultimately auto aim works well enough for me and I’m lazy. Edited January 3, 2019 by The Coca-Cola Kid 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuDawg Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, The Coca-Cola Kid said: Both of your statements are true, however if I were to switch to manual, my current status of “not being good” will decrease to “so bad he should’t bother playing” and honestly, I don’t want to start from scratch with learning it because ultimately auto aim works well enough for me and I’m lazy. No such thing as so bad he should bother playing tho.. Its either do or do not.. Even just playing for an hour with free aim makes someone better with it. Some people over think it. Think they need to be as good as a mouse and keyboard user or they won't bother playing. I really don't get this mentality. Because the best part about manual aim is the MISSING. The missing and the constant threat of missing is what makes landing shots mean something.. and makes shoot outs more exciting. Edited January 3, 2019 by HuDawg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coca-Cola Kid Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) That’s my problem, I am a former PC player, been playing since the 90s. Been trying to transition to manual aim on consoles since 2010. Not taking. I disagree about the missing making thing more exciting. I mean maybe it does for some people, but I don’t care about excitement. I want to accomplish the task at hand, hitting the target. But no worries, it is what it is, to each their own. As long as the game is fun for the individual. Edited January 3, 2019 by The Coca-Cola Kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuDawg Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 12 minutes ago, The Coca-Cola Kid said: I disagree about the missing making thing more exciting. I mean maybe it does for some people, but I don’t care about excitement. I want to accomplish the task at hand, hitting the target. It makes it more exciting it terms of dodging bullets and landing shots meaning something. For example.. Playing co-op missions with friends all using free aim. The shoot out takes longer, taking cover and picking out targets takes a bit of effort. Compared to everyone using auto aim.. Running infront each other trying to get the most kills. And most of the time not caring about cover or picking out targets because they rely on auto aim being able to kill everything ASAP. But ya.. to each their own. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YodaMan 3D Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, HuDawg said: It makes it more exciting it terms of dodging bullets and landing shots meaning something. For example.. Playing co-op missions with friends all using free aim. The shoot out takes longer, taking cover and picking out targets takes a bit of effort. Compared to everyone using auto aim.. Running infront each other trying to get the most kills. And most of the time not caring about cover or picking out targets because they rely on auto aim being able to kill everything ASAP. But ya.. to each their own. So doing missions, you and your buddies roll around on the ground getting into each others way while taking cheesy headshots during your dives? I personally like the taking cover and using a little strategy on missions instead of everyone being the Rambo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuDawg Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Just now, YodaMan 3D said: So doing missions, you and your buddies roll around on the ground getting into each others way while taking cheesy headshots during your dives? I don't understand this.. Dive is a scramble. Only time I use it is when im ****ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BropolloCreed79 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, YodaMan 3D said: I personally like the taking cover and using a little strategy on missions instead of everyone being the Rambo John Matrix. Fixed that for you. But I agree. Even in story mode, when I'm in a shootout, I switch over to First Person mode because I have auto aim disabled. When I want to shoot someone in the leg who's hiding behind cover, I want the freedom to aim without AA pulling the bead somewhere else. It's far more rewarding and realistic. If people want "Cheapie Maghee" mechanics, like flopping and auto aim, they should go play Fortnite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coca-Cola Kid Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) Agree to disagree, and I’m worse at fornite. But please don’t imply that I am a cheap player because I use auto-aim, because I am not. 20 minutes ago, BropolloCreed79 said: It's far more rewarding and realistic. The level of personal reward for doing anything is different for everyone. We are losing sight of the original topic, which was that someone was claiming they were the best. At which point it was identified that the player used auto aim, which everyone agrees nullifies the validity of that claim. No one is saying flopping is good. Everyone agrees that people who use manual aim are better. I’m not sure what the debate is now. Edited January 3, 2019 by The Coca-Cola Kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madfretter Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 18 minutes ago, BropolloCreed79 said: Fixed that for you. But I agree. Even in story mode, when I'm in a shootout, I switch over to First Person mode because I have auto aim disabled. When I want to shoot someone in the leg who's hiding behind cover, I want the freedom to aim without AA pulling the bead somewhere else. It's far more rewarding and realistic. If people want "Cheapie Maghee" mechanics, like flopping and auto aim, they should go play Fortnite. Exactly. Shooting a guy in the foot so he falls out of cover for the kill shot is rewarding and realistic. Watching a guy do burpees while you are trying to shoot him is not. I'd also like to see shots do more than take off health. For example, if I shoot a guy in the foot, he shouldn't be able to move as quickly until it heals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaderspupil Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) This whole free aim vs auto aim debate is silly IMHO. There's a reason you can choose one or the other. Free aim is for those who want to challenge themselves and their gaming skills. Auto aim is for those who have less confidence in their gaming skills and want an overall more casual experience. Either choice is perfectly fine. You can't force others to play your style. BTW, I fall into the latter category. Edited January 3, 2019 by Vaderspupil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madfretter Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, The Coca-Cola Kid said: Agree to disagree, and I’m worse at fornite. But please don’t imply that I am a cheap player because I use auto-aim, because I am not. The level of personal reward for doing anything is different for everyone. The level of personal reward should be lower for having the game do most of the work for you. I mean, if the mini map tells you where to find people and the game aims the gun for you... What exactly is left to feel rewarded for doing?... Horse riding and trigger pulling? I want to earn my rewards, the hard way. I don't want participation trophies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuDawg Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Vaderspupil said: This whole free aim vs auto aim debate is silly IMHO. There's a reason you can choose one or the other. Free aim is for those who want to challenge themselves and their gaming skills. Auto aim is for those who have less confidence in their gaming skills and want an overall more casual experience. Either choice is perfectly fine. You can't force others to play your style. I disagree with this. I never used free aim to challenge myself. I use it for immersive reasons. In this game.. It Makes shoots out more dramatic. Allows players to have a betterchance to avoid getting shot by others. And Forces players to look for gun smoke and pick out targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madfretter Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Vaderspupil said: This whole free aim vs auto aim debate is silly IMHO. There's a reason you can choose one or the other. Free aim is for those who want to challenge themselves and their gaming skills. Auto aim is for those who have less confidence in their gaming skills and want an overall more casual experience. Either choice is perfectly fine. You can't force others to play your style. I think the problem isn't casual gamers with weak skills using auto aim, it's people who play all the time and use it to give them a distinct advantage. I don't think that being able to lock onto a persons head, every time, while looking backwards and riding a horse at top speed is accurate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coca-Cola Kid Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) I see what you’re saying, but again everything you said is personal feeling. I personally don’t care about trophies, I actually like just riding around and trigger pulling. It’s not a competition for me. If R* wants to disable auto aim for everyone, cool I’ll roll with it, or if they want to create “competitive or hardcore” servers, cool, I’ll stay out of them. Edited January 3, 2019 by The Coca-Cola Kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaderspupil Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, HuDawg said: I disagree with this. I never used free aim to challenge myself. I use it for immersive reasons. In this game.. It Makes shoots out more dramatic. Allows players to have a betterchance to avoid getting shot by others. And Forces players to look for gun smoke and pick out targets. 2 minutes ago, madfretter said: I think the problem isn't casual gamers with weak skills using auto aim, it's people who play all the time and use it to give them a distinct advantage. I don't think that being able to lock onto a persons head, every time, while looking backwards and riding a horse at top speed is accurate. The whole point is to have fun. You guys do so by immersing yourself in the game making it more realistic with free aim. Others might not have so much fun if they couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with a BB gun using free aim. That being said, I'm certainly no fan of those like the OP who think they are the GOAT especially when taking advantage of the game assisted tools. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madfretter Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, The Coca-Cola Kid said: I see what you’re saying, but again everything you said is personal feeling. I personally don’t care about trophies, I actually like just riding around and trigger pulling. It’s not a competition for me. If R* wants to disable auto aim for everyone, cool I’ll roll with it, or if they want to create “competitive or hardcore” servers, cool, I’ll stay out of them. AUto aim isn't top of my list for wants currently. What I want most is the location of your shot to count for more than just a number. If someone shoots you in the leg 3 times you die, like a headshot. In real life you won't die immediately from a leg shot, the game should be the same way. force the player to the ground, but they can still shoot or choose to die. This will force people either aim for kill shots or to go up an finish the job so they don't forfeit xp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madfretter Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, Vaderspupil said: The whole point is to have fun. You guys do so by immersing yourself in the game making it more realistic with free aim. Others might not have so much fun if they couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with a BB gun using free aim. That being said, I'm certainly no fan of those like the OP who think they are the GOAT especially when taking advantage of the game assisted tools. They could just make auto aim kills count for less xp...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaderspupil Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, madfretter said: They could just make auto aim kills count for less xp...lol Wouldn't bother me any if they took away the extra XP bonuses for headshots, distance etc. for auto aim users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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