YodaMan 3D Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 2 hours ago, HuDawg said: Also, I throw myself all over the ground all the time. No sure whats 'noobish' about it. 46 minutes ago, HuDawg said: I don't understand this.. Dive is a scramble. Only time I use it is when im ****ed. So you throw yourself on the ground all the time. Then you say it's only when you are in trouble. In your words you are in trouble all the time. Then you throw in that players are doing it to get a easy kill shot. Then you have claimed that you are a free aim kind of player. It is possible I am just miss understanding you, but it sounds as if you are trying to give us the opinion that you fight one way, but are also fighting the other. I am curious which it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madfretter Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Vaderspupil said: Wouldn't bother me any if they took away the extra XP bonuses for headshots, distance etc. for auto aim users. That seems like a fair solution. Last thing I want is auto aim users running around with Mauser pistols they got with XP from headshots they didn't actually aim for ...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BropolloCreed79 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 35 minutes ago, The Coca-Cola Kid said: But please don’t imply that I am a cheap player because I use auto-aim, because I am not. Reading comprehension. It's a "Cheapie Maghee mechanic"--nothing said about players who use them. The mechanics are cheap; I have no quarrel with players who use them as intended. If anything, I blame R* for putting that crap in the game to begin with. I used Fortnite as an example because (A) I hate that game--it flat out sucks, and is only popular because it's free to play. The graphics are trash, the mechanics are disgusting, and it's just a terrible experience. Shooters require balance, and Fortnite is about as balanced as a one-legged pirate with a glandular disorder; and (B) Fortnite is an easy comparison because of it's inherent and intentionally outlandish cartoonish style--an overt contrast to the care, realism, and attention to detail that permeate almost every aspect of RDR2. If they charged $39.99 or $59.99 for the PvP version of Fortnite NOBODY would play it. Instead, it's populated by preteens who don't have disposable income playing for free, and parents who just want to spend time with their kids. Put an economic gate to entry on that title, and it's about as popular as a wet fart in an elevator. I guess the point of all this is, I REALLY hate Fortnite. Probably because my kid wants to play it and won't shut up about it--all his friends play it, and talk about it, and do the idiotic ripoff dances during basketball practice--God, I hate that game. 15 minutes ago, Vaderspupil said: That being said, I'm certainly no fan of those like the OP who think they are the GOAT The GOAT? There's only one GOAT, and his name was Robert Paulson. 5 minutes ago, Vaderspupil said: Wouldn't bother me any if they took away the extra XP bonuses for headshots, distance etc. for auto aim users. What they should do is make it a scoring modifier for using free aim as opposed to AA. For example, playing PvP versus PvE mode of Survival on the Division adds in a 1.5x score multiplier at the end of the match. So for RDR2, you should be locked into your aim preference before the session starts, and from there, you have a scoring modifier applied to your XP gains if you use free aim as opposed to auto aim. 25 minutes ago, madfretter said: I don't think that being able to lock onto a persons head, every time, while looking backwards and riding a horse at top speed is accurate. Shoot, son, I can do that blindfolded with half a bottle of whiskey in my belly. A real neat trick is shooting hats off of them instead of pulling off headshots. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YodaMan 3D Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 48 minutes ago, Vaderspupil said: This whole free aim vs auto aim debate is silly IMHO. There's a reason you can choose one or the other. Free aim is for those who want to challenge themselves and their gaming skills. Auto aim is for those who have less confidence in their gaming skills and want an overall more casual experience. Either choice is perfectly fine. You can't force others to play your style. BTW, I fall into the latter category. Referring back to the OP, he thinks he is the best because he uses auto-aim and claimed it takes more skill to use auto-aim then free aim. There really is no issue whether or not you use it. It's more of a matter claiming something that is completely off base. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coca-Cola Kid Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuDawg Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 38 minutes ago, YodaMan 3D said: So you throw yourself on the ground all the time. Then you say it's only when you are in trouble. In your words you are in trouble all the time. Then you throw in that players are doing it to get a easy kill shot. You're starting to hurt my brain. I never said I dive non stop and get easy kill shots. Besides you don't get easy kill shots from diving. The person diving is the one in trouble. And yes.. I find myself in trouble all the time in PVP game modes. Where people are literally spawning behind me and blasting at me, while im busy shooting at others. Diving sure as hell isn't getting me any free kills. Its simply allowing me time to survive and get to cover. Feel free to dive infront me all you want. I don't care. I'll manually aim and blast you on the ground. And if I do miss the shot on the diving player.. Il crouch and shoot to screw them over on trying to get a head shot while they stand up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaderspupil Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, YodaMan 3D said: Referring back to the OP, he thinks he is the best because he uses auto-aim and claimed it takes more skill to use auto-aim then free aim. There really is no issue whether or not you use it. It's more of a matter claiming something that is completely off base. It takes skill(against other auto aim users) in the sense that you have to be quicker than them at flicking the analog stick to go for a headshot, but yes I agree that the OP is an idiot. It takes way more skill and pinpoint control to free aim your shots. I sometimes have trouble hunting with scoped rifles because it forces you to free aim while looking through the scope. If the animal is moving at all, I'm much more likely to miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YodaMan 3D Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, HuDawg said: You're starting to hurt my brain. I never said I dive non stop and get easy kill shots. Besides you don't get easy kill shots from diving. The person diving is the one in trouble. And yes.. I find myself in trouble all the time in PVP game modes. Where people are literally spawning behind me and blasting at me, while im busy shooting at others. Diving sure as hell isn't getting me any free kills. Its simply allowing me time to survive and get to cover. Feel free to dive infront me all you want. I don't care. I'll manually aim and blast you on the ground. And if I do miss the shot on the diving player.. Il crouch and shoot to screw them over on trying to get a head shot while they stand up. Correction..... 3 hours ago, HuDawg said: Also, I throw myself all over the ground all the time. No sure whats 'noobish' about it. That is what you said. The debate has been players diving on the ground, that breaks the lock and gives them the chance at a free headshot, because the original shooter now isn't locked on and has to wait to lock on again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuDawg Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, YodaMan 3D said: The debate has been players diving on the ground, that breaks the lock and gives them the chance at a free headshot, because the original shooter now isn't locked on and has to wait to lock on again. Again.. dive doesn't give anyone a chance at a free head shot. And if players want to only rely on auto aim.. its their fault. Not the dive. Edited January 3, 2019 by HuDawg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kean_1 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 .......freakin' hilarious. Can't believe this thread is still going. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madfretter Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Be glad Wildcard didn't make this game. If they did, you'd fall through the map after diving and be able to shoot people on surface world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BropolloCreed79 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 26 minutes ago, Kean_1 said: .......freakin' hilarious. Can't believe this thread is still going. Couldn't pass up the chance to drop this in here. 17 minutes ago, madfretter said: Be glad Wildcard didn't make this game. If they did, you'd fall through the map after diving and be able to shoot people on surface world. Nah, bro, be glad Gun Media and Illfonic didn't make this game. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 16 minutes ago, BropolloCreed79 said: Nah, bro, be glad Gun Media and Illfonic didn't make this game. On 12/20/2018 at 12:53 PM, BropolloCreed79 said: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madfretter Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 18 minutes ago, BropolloCreed79 said: Couldn't pass up the chance to drop this in here. Nah, bro, be glad Gun Media and Illfonic didn't make this game. I don't know what you're talking about. Friday the 13th is the pinnacle, the absolute top peak of gaming design. From the monotonous online game play to the STILL missing story mode, the best ever...lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YodaMan 3D Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, madfretter said: I don't know what you're talking about. Friday the 13th is the pinnacle, the absolute top peak of gaming design. From the monotonous online game play to the STILL missing story mode, the best ever...lol I would have just loved to been able to play the game. Everytime I tried, it would take forever to load in and someone would always dropout. So I would get sent back finding another group. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madfretter Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 minute ago, YodaMan 3D said: I would have just loved to been able to play the game. Everytime I tried, it would take forever to load in and someone would always dropout. So I would get sent back finding another group. Thats sucks, never had that happen to me. I only bought the game because of the promised story mode. ONline was fun for like 2 days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaderspupil Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 34 minutes ago, YodaMan 3D said: I would have just loved to been able to play the game. Everytime I tried, it would take forever to load in and someone would always dropout. So I would get sent back finding another group. For the longest time I would only play that game in private lobbies. I still play it from time to time with some of my old F13 friends, even in public lobbies, but it's just not the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 You guys just don't know what to talk about now, do you? This thread has gone through like 5 topics at this point lmfao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YodaMan 3D Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 12 minutes ago, Truth said: You guys just don't know what to talk about now, do you? This thread has gone through like 5 topics at this point lmfao Hey, don't come in here trying to change the subject! hehehehe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madfretter Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 On 12/3/2018 at 8:37 AM, The ViceCity said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gJ-Z2alcPQ Insane kills for just a week into Red Dead Online! Just wanted to make sure you were up to date on this thread Champ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BropolloCreed79 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 19 hours ago, Truth said: You guys just don't know what to talk about now, do you? This thread has gone through like 5 topics at this point lmfao Obviously, it's about this dopey-faced goober being the best RDR2 player. 2 hours ago, madfretter said: Just wanted to make sure you were up to date on this thread Champ There's only one Champ: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED_DEADMAN Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) On 12/4/2018 at 10:31 AM, The ViceCity said: You've got to remember that while I've got auto aim, my enemy also has auto aim. And if i'm not fast enough and accurate enough I will get killed pretty quickly by a good player. That fast reaction time and the accuracy it requires is not demanded in free aim. In free aim, you pray your bullets will hit. It takes no method, no strategy, no navigating the map efficiently and being quick and stuff. It literally takes luck and the right settings (deadzone acceleration etc). If a top auto aimer played a 1v1 with a top free aim player, the auto aim player would surely win by a greater margin in auto aim than he would lose in free aim. It's honestly not that skilled. People think, well its manual aim you have to do it yourself, surely that takes more skill right? Don't pretend its easy to hit a good player in auto aim either. I guarantee if you play against someone who knows how to spin and sidestep well you will not land a hit on them all game long. I agree. If there is no skill involved in auto aim then why is it that some go 30/2 in a match and others go 2/14? Edited January 4, 2019 by RED_DEADMAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 And now we've come full circle... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED_DEADMAN Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 21 hours ago, Vaderspupil said: It takes skill(against other auto aim users) in the sense that you have to be quicker than them at flicking the analog stick to go for a headshot, but yes I agree that the OP is an idiot. It takes way more skill and pinpoint control to free aim your shots. I sometimes have trouble hunting with scoped rifles because it forces you to free aim while looking through the scope. If the animal is moving at all, I'm much more likely to miss. Makes sense. It does take skill, but only when against other free aim players. I don't think it requires more skill than free aim, just that it requires skill when faces other with the same aim assist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YodaMan 3D Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 10 minutes ago, RED_DEADMAN said: I agree. If there is no skill involved in auto aim then why is it that some go 30/2 in a match and others go 2/14? Lag? Latency? Glitchers? Cheaters? Hackers? Terrain? Spawn points? It is possible to be skill for Auto-Aim. Yet to claim you are more skilled cause you use Auto-Aim vs a player who Free Aims. Hahahahahaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coca-Cola Kid Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 hours ago, RED_DEADMAN said: I agree. If there is no skill involved in auto aim then why is it that some go 30/2 in a match and others go 2/14? If they play me, that would be their score no matter what, because I am pretty terrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuDawg Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, RED_DEADMAN said: I agree. If there is no skill involved in auto aim then why is it that some go 30/2 in a match and others go 2/14? I can tell you why. Some people are just fodder. They just run full throttle and die over and over again. I usually die around 2-5 times a match. And usually get 10-20 kills on average and im using Free Aim against Auto Aim users. People who die constantly are just making themselves easy targets. Edited January 4, 2019 by HuDawg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BropolloCreed79 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 1 hour ago, HuDawg said: People who die constantly are just making themselves easy targets. Maybe I'm just trying to build everyone else's self esteem. Or maybe I'm sluggish on the controls because "whiskey". 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaderspupil Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 I don't need to be the best. I'm perfectly happy as long as I finish on the plus side with my kills/deaths ratio and I'm absolutely thrilled finishing in the top 10. My best game ever was a name your weapons team match in which I had 20 kills, 9 deaths all with using the double barrel shotgun. Still didn't get MVP though probably didn't get a high enough point total with only using the shotgun. I have gotten MVP only once and I don't know how. It was hostile territory and I had something like 2 kills, 4 deaths. I had spent the majority of the match hunkered down inside of a territory to protect it from capture. My best game overall is Most Wanted. I usually have a respectable finish there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kean_1 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 My beef wasn't necessarily with the OPs stance on skill with auto aim but the whole sense of pride and accomplishment some feel about "skillz" in a freakin' GAME. ......and their desire to brag about it to everyone else as if it were some sort of life accomplishment to be proud of. Call me when you're making six figures on the competitive gaming circuit and endorsements, then I might be impressed. ......I said might. Personally, I could give two craps about K/D ratios, stats, etc. As long as my friends and I are having fun, that's all that matters. ....and yeah, a little ribbing / gloating in that context is fine. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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