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21 hours ago, Truth said:

Really dude? Just say it was you...

I don't think anyone should brag about effective use of the auto aim system...

Auto aim takes more skill than free aim. You've got to remember that while I've got auto aim, my enemy also has auto aim. And if i'm not fast enough and accurate enough I will get killed pretty quickly by a good player. That fast reaction time and the accuracy it requires is not demanded in free aim. In free aim, you pray your bullets will hit. It takes no method, no strategy, no navigating the map efficiently and being quick and stuff. It literally takes luck and the right settings (deadzone acceleration etc). If a top auto aimer played a 1v1 with a top free aim player, the auto aim player would surely win by a greater margin in auto aim than he would lose in free aim. It's honestly not that skilled. People think, well its manual aim you have to do it yourself, surely that takes more skill right? Don't pretend its easy to hit a good player in auto aim either. I guarantee if you play against someone who knows how to spin and sidestep well you will not land a hit on them all game long.

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23 minutes ago, The ViceCity said:

Auto aim takes more skill than free aim... That fast reaction time and the accuracy it requires is not demanded in free aim.

Tell me about the how you are not required to be fast and accurate to shoot someone in the face before they do the same thing to you in free aim... FREE AIM clearly requires more talent because you don't auto lock into someone, you need to actually AIM at someone and shoot, there is no praying involved.

 

23 minutes ago, The ViceCity said:

Yes, it's talented. Only when I say it, I know what i'm talking about, rather than using sarcasm :)

I'm inclined to think this whole "topic" is sarcasm hahahahahaha xD

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.....well then, color me unimpressed with the whole epeen thing.  Frankly, I consider games entertainment and not life accomplishments, but more power to you.  .....I yield.

Your button mashing skills and talent for killing virtual characters with virtual weapons and arcade shooting/aiming/ballistic mechanics are to be commended.   :)

 

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4 hours ago, The ViceCity said:

Auto aim takes more skill than free aim. 

Auto Aim.. does 99% of the work for you.   To say auto aim takes more skill than free aim is pretty funny.

4 hours ago, The ViceCity said:

That fast reaction time and the accuracy it requires is not demanded in free aim. In free aim, you pray your bullets will hit. It takes no method, no strategy, no navigating the map efficiently and being quick and stuff. It literally takes luck

You are out of your damn mind if you believe any of that..lol

Free aim takes no method? No strategy?  No navigating the map?...  It takes luck?

Dafuk are you talking about?   

Auto aim literally seeks out targets, even if you don't notice them on your screen.  

And for the record, people who are highly skilled with manual aim..don't pray for their bullets to hit.  They just shoot you dead..

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All I learned from that is that diving out of the way seems to be way over used. 

Did you really create a thread on an internet forum to call yourself the best RDR player? That's turd city bro.

Also, isn't this what everyone does in online? Aim-flick-fire? You're not too bad at making montage videos though. 

Need to work on your narcissism.

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On ‎12‎/‎4‎/‎2018 at 4:01 PM, Bonzai said:

Tell me about the how you are not required to be fast and accurate to shoot someone in the face before they do the same thing to you in free aim... FREE AIM clearly requires more talent because you don't auto lock into someone, you need to actually AIM at someone and shoot, there is no praying involved.

 

I'm inclined to think this whole "topic" is sarcasm hahahahahaha xD

The whole topic got more views to my video and that's literally what I wanted to achieve so thanks to everyone for that x) and...free aim is much less fast-paced than auto aim, you can be dead very quickly in auto aim. It takes fast reactions. Good players will shoot you dead on sight. In free aim this is much less frequent. Free aim is more about luck than auto aim to be quite honest. Look I'm by no means implying free aim takes NO skill. I'm sure the muscle memory that people develop to flick shot is definitely a skill. But in general it takes more luck. You get more time before you get shot in the face in free aim. In auto aim you better react quick or you'll certainly be dead in one second (assuming you are playing with someone decent at least). By the way, just because auto aim locks on for you doesn't actually mean its the easy option, or the mode that takes less skill. You actually forget that your enemy ALSO has auto aim. You not only have to react fast but dodge your opponents bullets too. That's where the beauty of spin and sidesteps come in, especially on RDR games. You really should see top auto aim players battle, i'm sure if you came to auto aim you wouldn't get a single hit on a top player all game. You could even 1v1 me on PSN and I would bet my house you wouldn't get a single kill on me. It's not as simple as you think. I give free aim credit and I express my opinions on which requires more skill...you don't really acknowledge anything. I did realise that you free aimers would come here and attack this but idc x) this was to get my video some more views. 

 

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4 hours ago, rick249kdr said:

All I learned from that is that diving out of the way seems to be way over used. 

Did you really create a thread on an internet forum to call yourself the best RDR player? That's turd city bro.

Also, isn't this what everyone does in online? Aim-flick-fire? You're not too bad at making montage videos though. 

Need to work on your narcissism.

Yeah diving is overused by some pople I agree. I preferred GTA5's system of a delay between combat rolling. But you can counter dive pretty easy. You can relock, sidestep or spin. Anyway, no I didn't create it to call myself the best, though I may actually be a top 3 RNG player, it was more clickbaity so my video got some more views :). I wouldn't call it narcissism haha. No not everyone does this online but there's a definite skill gap otherwise talk of whos the best wouldn't even happen and there wouldn't exist players way superior to others.

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4 minutes ago, The ViceCity said:

Haha. Ever heard of clickbait? Certainly worked on you buddy

Ever heard of forum rules "buddy":

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Haha....    🙄

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1 minute ago, The ViceCity said:

Haha. Ever heard of clickbait? Certainly worked on you buddy

My preferred pronoun is "Bro" not "buddy".  "Chief" is also acceptable.

Also, a piece of advice:  if you're trying to use clickbait to drive views, maybe provide the link in the text and make it "clickable" (as in "click" bait).  

What you provided in the OP is more "copy-paste" bait.

Of course, if you had more familiarity with self-promotion, you would have simply embedded the video in your post, like this:

 

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22 hours ago, HuDawg said:

Auto Aim.. does 99% of the work for you.   To say auto aim takes more skill than free aim is pretty funny.

You are out of your damn mind if you believe any of that..lol

Free aim takes no method? No strategy?  No navigating the map?...  It takes luck?

Dafuk are you talking about?   

Auto aim literally seeks out targets, even if you don't notice them on your screen.  

And for the record, people who are highly skilled with manual aim..don't pray for their bullets to hit.  They just shoot you dead..

That's a very misinformed assumption. I don't know where you got 99% from. It definitely does not do 99% of the work, I could bet my house you wouldn't get a single kill on me in an auto aim 1v1. That would take a lot more than just 1% of the work to pull off lol. Free aim takes more luck for sure. It takes no strategy unless you are camping and waiting for people to spawn so you can go behind them, which is actually a very noobish style of play. RNG is by far the most skill-demanding style of play. Auto aim does seek out targets but by no means does that imply it takes no skill. You can get a easy kill from behind but hey you can do that in free aim just as much. A player who knows what hes doing wont just let you get an easy kill from the front like you imagine. They'll get you first or make you miss. By the way, theres always luck involved in free aim. They don't just shoot you dead unless their flick shotting is top notch and even the its guess work as to how your opponent will reposition themselves.

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4 minutes ago, BropolloCreed79 said:

My preferred pronoun is "Bro" not "buddy".  "Chief" is also acceptable.

Also, a piece of advice:  if you're trying to use clickbait to drive views, maybe provide the link in the text and make it "clickable" (as in "click" bait).  

What you provided in the OP is more "copy-paste" bait.

Of course, if you had more familiarity with self-promotion, you would have simply embedded the video in your post, like this:

 

You're right but I didn't really care too much, chief. I don't use forums at all. 

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12 minutes ago, The ViceCity said:

You actually forget that your enemy ALSO has auto aim. You not only have to react fast but dodge your opponents bullets too. That's where the beauty of spin and sidesteps come in, especially on RDR games. You really should see top auto aim players battle, i'm sure if you came to auto aim you wouldn't get a single hit on a top player all game. You could even 1v1 me on PSN and I would bet my house you wouldn't get a single kill on me. It's not as simple as you think.

So you automatically asume I'm bad because I said free aim requires more skill? I came from 5yrs of GTA:O this aim flick shoot is nothing new, all those headshots you pulled after a week I was doing on day one because of that... if I get anyone diving in front of me I'm killing them from that mistake, I just need to quickly aim again and flick to the right the time they need to get up from the dive I already killed them when they hit the floor.... Also you need to get near me, or I'll snipe you with a rifle because I prefer to free aim... I'm by no means PRO-Plays RDR competition gamer, in fact that adds literaly nothing to my life, I couldn't care less about that and I got better sh*t to do, but you are good I'll give you that and if being good at a TPS is what defines you then spend more time perfecting that and good luck to you partner.
BTW I actually saw the whole video because I found it interesting, you click bait people with misleading titles or content...
I would watch another before? Yes because of the content... will watch another now? Nope, the poster has shitty personality in my opinion.

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1 minute ago, Bonzai said:

So you automatically asume I'm bad because I said free aim requires more skill? I came from 5yrs of GTA:O this aim flick shoot is nothing new, all those headshots you pulled after a week I was doing on day one because of that... if I get anyone diving in front of me I'm killing them from that mistake, I just need to quickly aim again and flick to the right the time they need to get up from the dive I already killed them when they hit the floor.... Also you need to get near me, or I'll snipe you with a rifle because I prefer to free aim... I'm by no means PRO-Plays RDR competition gamer, in fact that adds literaly nothing to my life, I couldn't care less about that and I got better sh*t to do, but you are good I'll give you that and if being good at a TPS is what defines you then spend more time perfecting that and good luck to you partner.
BTW I actually saw the whole video because I found it interesting, you click bait people with misleading titles or content...
I would watch another before? Yes because of the content... will watch another now? Nope, the poster has shitty personality in my opinion.

No I wouldn't say you're bad for expressing that opinion but you fail to give credit where credit is due. You can't always counter diving in that way. The actual YT title is not clickbait at all btw. The title itself wasn't even full clickbait. I posed a question which draws people in. 

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36 minutes ago, The ViceCity said:

That's a very misinformed assumption. 

Nope... Just tellin' how it is..

 

36 minutes ago, The ViceCity said:

 I don't know where you got 99% from. It definitely does not do 99% of the work

Oooh really?  Besides slightly moving the aimer up to adjust for head shots, auto aim does all the work for you.

36 minutes ago, The ViceCity said:

 I could bet my house you wouldn't get a single kill on me in an auto aim 1v1.

 I could use free aim and still get a kill on you...lol

36 minutes ago, The ViceCity said:

Free aim takes more luck for sure. 

How does free aim take more luck?  The player is manually aiming...  The only luck involved is vs laggy players.

 

36 minutes ago, The ViceCity said:

 It takes no strategy unless you are camping and waiting for people to spawn so you can go behind them, which is actually a very noobish style of play. RNG is by far the most skill-demanding style of play. 

Camping this.. RNG that..   I don't really care.   Nothing annoys me more then people who claim RNG  takes more skill.    The only thing that matters is the score board.  Someone who camps//AKA holds their ground doesn't have to RNG.  Some people have different play styles.

And bragging about RNG in auto aim.. is pretty laughable. 

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1 minute ago, HuDawg said:

Nope... Just tellin' how it is..

 

Oooh really?  Besides slighting moving the aimer up to adjust for head shots, auto aim does all the work for you.

Get over yourself dude.  Its freakin' auto aim.  I could use free aim and still get a kill on you...lol

How does free aim take more luck?  The player is manually aiming...  The only luck involved is vs laggy players.

 

Camping this.. RNG that..   I don't really care.   Nothing annoys me more then people who claim RNG is takes more skill.    The only thing that matters is the score board.  Someone who camps//AKA holds there ground doesn't have to RNG.  Some people have different play styles.

And bragging about RNG in auto aim.. is pretty laughable. 

'Tellin it how it is' isn't good enough. Again you're pulling numbers out of thin air. Its not as simple as moving the analog stick up. If I sidestep you you cant just move your aim up because you'll still miss me. That's assuming you even get the aim up to the head quick enough in the first place anyway. 'Get over yourself' is a cheap way to get out of a losing argument lol i'll say it again...you wouldn't get a kill on me in auto aim. No matter whether you use auto or free aim on me. Free aim takes luck because you're literally guessing where the opponents head will be, or you're spamming bodyshots which is noobish af. RNG is the most skilled style of play that's why when private lobbies come out, RNG lobbies will take place and campers can go play with other campers. It takes no skill to sit and camp or hide behind a wall. That's just how it is :) and bragging about RNG in auto aim isn't bad at all because if it took NO skill or attributes, there would not CONSISTENTLY be players that do better than others. There would be no winners because it would all be random af. The best crew could lose to an average crew if it was luck. But that does not happen. The RNG takes more skill claim is just simply a fact and you don't have to like it but idc if you like it or not. Some styles require more skill than others. Just like some sports or degrees are more valued than others. 

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12 minutes ago, The ViceCity said:

 The RNG takes more skill claim is just simply a fact 

A fact that you can't back up.. Isn't a fact.   Its an opinion.

12 minutes ago, The ViceCity said:

 Free aim takes luck because you're literally guessing where the opponents head will be, or you're spamming bodyshots which is noobish af. \

 So let  me get this straight... If people use free aim and go for body shots its noobish or just luck.


But when you use auto aim.. Its 100% pure skill and you're the best ever.   

 

LMFAO.

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, HuDawg said:

A fact that you can't back up.. Isn't a fact.   Its an opinion.

 So let get this straight... If people use free aim and go for body shots its noobish.


But when you use auto aim.. Its 100% pure skill and your the best ever.    Free aim.. thats luck.

 

LMFAO.

 

 

 

I can back it up. RNG takes fast reaction times and the ability to be accurate in that short period of time. It requires you to dodge your opponents bullets out in the open without relying on a tree or a wall to cover you. Its your responsibility to dodge bullets and also make sure you hit your shots and not pay the price for missing your shots. Behind a wall you just stand still and take as many shots as you like. You can miss, you can stay there letting that wall be your protection. Its for straight noobs. Btw yes going for body shots is noobish, that goes for auto aim too. Bodyshotting in auto aim is for noobs. So too in free aim. 

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1 minute ago, The ViceCity said:

 RNG takes fast reaction times and the ability to be accurate in that short period of time.

You're using auto aim..

And score boards don't care about RNG skills.  Auto aim or free aim.    

3 minutes ago, The ViceCity said:

 Behind a wall you just stand still and take as many shots as you like. You can miss, you can stay there letting that wall be your protection. Its for straight noobs. 

So taking cover is noobish.  Something that soldiers and police officers in real life learn to do in REAL shoot outs.  

But its noobish in video games.. Because your scraggly ass said so?

I don't think so..

Again.. you're using auto aim.  

6 minutes ago, The ViceCity said:

Bodyshotting in auto aim is for noobs. So too in free aim. 

Oooh please.

Real pros like me.   Only shoot people in the nuts.

All nuts shots.. All the time.    

 

 

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1 minute ago, HuDawg said:

You're using auto aim..

And score boards don't care about RNG skills.  Auto aim or free aim.    

So taking cover is noobish.  Something that soldiers and police officers in real life learn to do in REAL shoot outs.  

But its noobish in video games.. Because your scraggly ass said so?

I don't think so..

Again.. you're using auto aim.  

Oooh please.

Real pros like me.   Only shoot people in the nuts.

All nuts shots.. All the time.    

 

 

You have no way of telling it you got a nut shot lmao. But you can tell if its a headshot. In real life OBVIOUSLY police officers and soldiers should use cover. That's just so different to video games you idiot. It is definitely noobish in video games. Don't even compare real life to video games you're actually soo retarded and your points make no sense whatsoever. You can only repeat yourself without giving a proper, reasoned critique of auto aim. This is the problem with you free aimers. You can't put your case forward without sounding mad or repeating yourselves. Scoreboards may not care but we're not even TALKING about score boards here. 

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This conversation has turned full turd.

If you were as good as you think you are (top 3...ha), you would be using your skill professionally. Judging from the fact that your trying to get views on Youtube (also terrible), I'm guessing you aren't. 

1 hour ago, The ViceCity said:

You're right but I didn't really care too much, chief. I don't use forums at all. 

This is blatantly false. Your post count completely contradicts your "at all" charge.

I would vote that this thread be closed because you're just fighting with each other now.

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2 minutes ago, rick249kdr said:

This conversation has turned full turd.

If you were as good as you think you are (top 3...ha), you would be using your skill professionally. Judging from the fact that your trying to get views on Youtube (also terrible), I'm guessing you aren't. 

This is blatantly false. Your post count completely contradicts your "at all" charge.

I would vote that this thread be closed because you're just fighting with each other now.

This was my first and only post so actually it doesn't contradict anything. The count is going up because of my replies in THIS thread. By the way all you're doing is guessing. Nothing more.

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