UPDATE 4/9/19

[HuDawg]

14 minutes ago, CosmoKramer said:

Apart from the fact that you have no idea who the griefers are until they grief you and now, with more of them having explosive rounds, you'll be dead by the time you know a griefer is around. 

Griefer to me means being out numbered and spawn killed into oblivion.   Players killing you is not griefing.. This is a staple of R* open world online games.

14 minutes ago, CosmoKramer said:

And then you're at the disadvantage of spawning off your horse, with the guns you had loaded (Varmint rifle & maybe Springfield if you were hunting) and them knowing you're coming for revenge.

Total non issue.   If they kill you once and leave its not griefing.. Its a cheap shot.  

Most cheap shots can be avoided by simply being aware OR killing them 1st.    Sure sh*t happens, but sooo what?  You just respawn..

14 minutes ago, CosmoKramer said:

I disagree with the idea that anything should be available for gold rather than rank based - if I want that sort of pay-to-win crap I'll play some 'free' game on the ipad.

You can't buy money..  But it makes no sense to even have rank locked weapons/ammo.  Its unfair...  Im not a fan of gold bars, but R* wants to make money.

If I was an actual griefer..  All low levels would be nothing but fodder.   My ability cards maxed out, all weapons, full of explosive rounds.   No low level stands a chance..

Edited April 10, 2019 by HuDawg

[DNMNetTech]

This is what happens when every child gets a trophy.

[CosmoKramer]

1 hour ago, HuDawg said:

Griefer to me means being out numbered and spawn killed into oblivion.   Players killing you is not griefing.. This is a staple of R* open world online games.

Total non issue.   If they kill you once and leave its not griefing.. Its a cheap shot.  

Most cheap shots can be avoided by simply being aware OR killing them 1st.    Sure sh*t happens, but sooo what?  You just respawn..

Don’t disagree with you but griefing starts with that first kill (if they’re using explosive ammo as you have no defence) which comes completely unwarranted and unprovoked. I’m very aware of what’s going on around me at all times as I use the companion app but I’m the sort of person to give people the benefit of the doubt. Blowing away any player that comes a bit close or ‘looks at you funny’ only makes the situation in the game worse.

 

Can’t buy money? You can buy gold which can be used as an in-game cash substitute, I don’t see the difference.

[Kean_1]

.....did I mention deja vu?

[Rabitrick]

Are these new cosmetic items just for online or will they be available in the story mode as well? Kind of like how the guns and cars were in GTAV.

[Kean_1]

19 minutes ago, Rabitrick said:

Are these new cosmetic items just for online or will they be available in the story mode as well? Kind of like how the guns and cars were in GTAV.

Good question.  Perhaps @Foxtrot may know as I haven't really revisited the campaign since RDO launched.  I know Fox is more in touch with that aspect of the game than I am.

[Foxtrot]

No idea I’m afraid. I think that story mode is basically static now. Online is where all the juice goes these days. 

[lumper]

2 hours ago, Kean_1 said:

Good question.  Perhaps @Foxtrot may know as I haven't really revisited the campaign since RDO launched.  I know Fox is more in touch with that aspect of the game than I am.

 

2 hours ago, Foxtrot said:

No idea I’m afraid. I think that story mode is basically static now. Online is where all the juice goes these days. 

Pretty sure at this point they arent adding anything to SP, for lots of reasons, but that game was finished on release and is as is, people have already finished it, etc.. so no I dont believe any new items will be put into Sp, Im guessing here of course, but it makes sense.

[lumper]

I know it isnt fair for you guys who worked hard to get where you are, I started 3 or 4 weeks ago and got off to a slow start so for me, its a blessing but I can totally see why you would be pissed.

I imagine it is the size of the player base and the % of people at higher levels vs the number of players that are much lower that is influencing this decision, but I really have no idea but I can see why you would be angry.

I wanted a Trotter but knew it was going to be a long time before I could get one, like weeks probably,  I woke up today, read the update and 3 hours later bought a Trotter.

Im sure there area ton of people within reach of level 60 that will grab the explosive pamphlets, for me I would have to hit 16 more levels in 6 days so, I dunno, that's pretty extreme, I went from 38 to 44 in 3 days, that would leave me 4 levels short if I could keep that up for the next 6 days straight.

Anyway I hope your angry with R* not the players, I only started recently but I play for hours every day and grind grind grind, never killed anyone except in missions or in a battle, once I am perfectly happy to grind away slow and steady and work my way up, thats why ive been doing it day in and out lately dealing with all the disconnects, griefers, bugs, core drain rates, clothing glitches, etc.. I grind until I cant stand it, then I go fishing until Im bored, and then I start grinding again.

 

 

 

 

Edited April 11, 2019 by lumper

[nshanny73]

This is rockstar trying to get people to spend all of their hard earned cash and gold... then, once they drop the spring update, with all of it's nice, new shiny toys, people will be broke... rockstar hoping people will resort to having to buy gold bars or get people playing and grinding again to earn the cash required... reeeeeeks of desperation

myself, I would be interested if the items were half price... i'll just keep grinding levels and cash and buy them as they unlock naturally... not sucking me in rockstar

[James Hickok_1837]

Hah ! told You so ! Lets dumb the game down every week ! Yaaaay !!!!

i just hit 89 yesterday. And was looking forward to my reward - explosive ammo. I started playing early feb and played solo grinding cash for ability cards , weapons, and now recipes for ammo and stuff. I never used any exploit and havent met anyone that did.  I tried to posse up early in the game but i noticed i xp and gain cash faster solo tbh. Im more of a lone wolf anyway like to earn stuff by myself. 

This update is a slap in the face for me. There needs to be something to grind for, to be happy to achieve. I really hate the fact that R* is giving away stuff  that ppl should earn to have. You suck at this game? You are a sore looser and cant get past lvl 50, cant grind enough cash ? Then You will be running around with a normal lancaster getting You ass handed to You by better players, taking explosive rounds to the head.  That is the way it should be. 

What is the next move ? Maybe give away ability cards for free ?!  just bcoz the noobs cant get them and cry on forums and ingame how they struggle. I grinded over 15 k dollars for the cards i have and it gives me advantage bcoz i worked for it. 

And about the so called "griefers". I play everyday and i havent had problems whatsoever with a band of high lvls chasing me around and killing me. Maybe once or twice when i was under lvl 15 but it was not a problem for me. I handled it. The ones that shoot me in the head when im afking or skinning an animal are nubs lvl 5-20 that dont realize who they r messing with. Funny how they cry or run away after i have my revenge on them. 

Please R* DO NOT DUMB DOWN THE GAME FURTHER ! PLEASE !

 

[Zampen]

5 hours ago, James Hickok_1837 said:

Hah ! told You so ! Lets dumb the game down every week ! Yaaaay !!!!

i just hit 89 yesterday. And was looking forward to my reward - explosive ammo. I started playing early feb and played solo grinding cash for ability cards , weapons, and now recipes for ammo and stuff. I never used any exploit and havent met anyone that did.  I tried to posse up early in the game but i noticed i xp and gain cash faster solo tbh. Im more of a lone wolf anyway like to earn stuff by myself. 

This update is a slap in the face for me. There needs to be something to grind for, to be happy to achieve. I really hate the fact that R* is giving away stuff  that ppl should earn to have. You suck at this game? You are a sore looser and cant get past lvl 50, cant grind enough cash ? Then You will be running around with a normal lancaster getting You ass handed to You by better players, taking explosive rounds to the head.  That is the way it should be. 

What is the next move ? Maybe give away ability cards for free ?!  just bcoz the noobs cant get them and cry on forums and ingame how they struggle. I grinded over 15 k dollars for the cards i have and it gives me advantage bcoz i worked for it. 

And about the so called "griefers". I play everyday and i havent had problems whatsoever with a band of high lvls chasing me around and killing me. Maybe once or twice when i was under lvl 15 but it was not a problem for me. I handled it. The ones that shoot me in the head when im afking or skinning an animal are nubs lvl 5-20 that dont realize who they r messing with. Funny how they cry or run away after i have my revenge on them. 

Please R* DO NOT DUMB DOWN THE GAME FURTHER ! PLEASE !

 

This = 🙏👍🎁❤

[Savage_Reaper]

6 hours ago, James Hickok_1837 said:

Hah ! told You so ! Lets dumb the game down every week ! Yaaaay !!!!

i just hit 89 yesterday. And was looking forward to my reward - explosive ammo. I started playing early feb and played solo grinding cash for ability cards , weapons, and now recipes for ammo and stuff. I never used any exploit and havent met anyone that did.  I tried to posse up early in the game but i noticed i xp and gain cash faster solo tbh. Im more of a lone wolf anyway like to earn stuff by myself. 

This update is a slap in the face for me. There needs to be something to grind for, to be happy to achieve. I really hate the fact that R* is giving away stuff  that ppl should earn to have. You suck at this game? You are a sore looser and cant get past lvl 50, cant grind enough cash ? Then You will be running around with a normal lancaster getting You ass handed to You by better players, taking explosive rounds to the head.  That is the way it should be. 

What is the next move ? Maybe give away ability cards for free ?!  just bcoz the noobs cant get them and cry on forums and ingame how they struggle. I grinded over 15 k dollars for the cards i have and it gives me advantage bcoz i worked for it. 

And about the so called "griefers". I play everyday and i havent had problems whatsoever with a band of high lvls chasing me around and killing me. Maybe once or twice when i was under lvl 15 but it was not a problem for me. I handled it. The ones that shoot me in the head when im afking or skinning an animal are nubs lvl 5-20 that dont realize who they r messing with. Funny how they cry or run away after i have my revenge on them. 

Please R* DO NOT DUMB DOWN THE GAME FURTHER ! PLEASE !

 

Well said. A lot of players feel that just because they play the game daily, they should be entitled...blah blah blah. 

I'm just glad they haven't made Ability Cards levels purchasable with gold. Sure it is coming though.

[xZ3Fx]

Great! I grind for weeks to level up enough to get express explosive pamphlet, now Rockstar drops the requirement to lvl 60. What a joke. Thanks again Rockstar.

Grinded for weeks for the achievements, and for what? Is Rockstar intentionally trying to get rid of loyal fans? Seems like it. Done with this game.

 

Edited April 11, 2019 by Kean_1
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[Felony]

Wow.  Way to go rockstar. Make it easier for all the new players to access equipment, items, and perks that higher level players had to grind there way to get. Your not even trying to compensate anyone for this...

 

[DNMNetTech]

Sorry! Not to poke the bear but... Duck Fat, Duck Fat!

Maybe they will end up resetting all levels when out of Beta. 

Edited April 11, 2019 by DNMNetTech
Updated

[Zampen]

1 hour ago, DNMNetTech said:

Sorry! Not to poke the bear but... Duck Fat, Duck Fat!

Maybe they will end up resetting all levels when out of Beta. 

I hope they dont

 

[HuDawg]

12 hours ago, James Hickok_1837 said:

Hah ! told You so ! Lets dumb the game down every week ! Yaaaay !!!!

i just hit 89 yesterday. And was looking forward to my reward - explosive ammo. I started playing early feb and played solo grinding cash for ability cards , weapons, and now recipes for ammo and stuff. I never used any exploit and havent met anyone that did.  I tried to posse up early in the game but i noticed i xp and gain cash faster solo tbh. Im more of a lone wolf anyway like to earn stuff by myself. 

This update is a slap in the face for me. 

 

This game was dumbed down the moment it went live.  Auto aim, ability cards and gold bars are the actual dumbed down part.  

In a game with bulk of the content being pvp based.  It makes zero sense to rank lock weapons/ammo.    Its simply unfair..  And ranks is just a lame way of locking things for no reason.  Since this is not a RPG/Looter type game.

This is a wild west action game where we play as outlaws.   People should not have to level up EARN the right to use weapons and ammo beyond buying the damn things.

[Zampen]

Its a clever way to keep players playing especially those incl myself who have a tendensy to trigger the dopamine system upon ranking and unlocking things aka addict behaviour. If nothing would have been locked i never would have played this alfa/beta/peta/fullonlinegame/crap at all. Its as simple as that,,,, get the player hooked and you get away with almost anything. Just my personal opinion of course

Edited April 11, 2019 by Zampen

[HuDawg]

7 minutes ago, Zampen said:

Its a clever way to keep players playing especially those incl myself who have a tendensy to trigger the dopamine system upon ranking and unlocking things aka addict behaviour. If nothing would have been locked i never would have played this alfa/beta/peta/fullonlinegame/crap at all. Its as simple as that,,,, get the player hooked and you get away with almost anything. Just my personal opinion of course

Meh..  To each their own.

 

I work long days.  I smoke extremely good high quality weed.   So when I boot up and open world action game, I don't got time for that leveling sh*t.

To me its just.. Like dangling a carrot in front of my face.  I would rather punch the guy dangling the carrot and just take the damn thing instead of chasing the carrot all day long..

[Zampen]

Ok too much info om the narcotics dude but Good luck with that 

[Felony]

19 minutes ago, HuDawg said:

Meh..  To each their own.

 

I work long days.  I smoke extremely good high quality weed.   So when I boot up and open world action game, I don't got time for that leveling sh*t.

To me its just.. Like dangling a carrot in front of my face.  I would rather punch the guy dangling the carrot and just take the damn thing instead of chasing the carrot all day long..

No offense but it sounds like your playing the wrong game.

[HuDawg]

On ‎4‎/‎11‎/‎2019 at 3:11 PM, Zampen said:

Ok too much info om the narcotics dude but Good luck with that 

Eww.. Narcotic sounds like a nasty word.  Like trying to clump weed in with opiates. Hell naw..

Cannabis is legal where I live.  Government sanctioned stores...   Don't really need luck with it.     

Hell I don't think I've ever played any game sober since 1998..   

 

To me, playing sober is crazzzie talk

On ‎4‎/‎11‎/‎2019 at 3:22 PM, Felony said:

No offense but it sounds like your playing the wrong game.

Maybe... 

Edited April 15, 2019 by HuDawg

[Kean_1]

Let's keep the discussion about the update please.  Please save the rest for Off Topic or other more suitable forums.

[DirteeSanchezz0]

Total slap in the face for the hours of grind I put in to level up so I could have the perks of a high rank player. Really getting ****ed off with this game.

[James Hickok_1837]

15 hours ago, Zampen said:

Its a clever way to keep players playing especially those incl myself who have a tendensy to trigger the dopamine system upon ranking and unlocking things aka addict behaviour. If nothing would have been locked i never would have played this alfa/beta/peta/fullonlinegame/crap at all. Its as simple as that,,,, get the player hooked and you get away with almost anything. Just my personal opinion of course

I feel absolutely the same.  

P.S. Gratz on the lvl !!! 

[Azzimovve]

43 minutes ago, James Hickok_1837 said:

I feel absolutely the same.  

P.S. Gratz on the lvl !!! 

+1

[HuDawg]

16 hours ago, DirteeSanchezz0 said:

Total slap in the face for the hours of grind I put in to level up so I could have the perks of a high rank player. Really getting ****ed off with this game.

I always wonder why players feel as if rank means something.  

 

Like its not enough to have a better grasp of game mechanics and more REAL in game experience then new players.  They need to have bigger advantage when it comes to in game weapons too.   Making lower levels or newer players nothing but mindless fodder.

I don't feel like its a slap in the face at all.    Since locking things behind ranks is kind of bullsh*t.  Im all for cosmetics being rank locked.  But not weapons or abilities..  Not in a game that's mostly pvp.

[CosmoKramer]

I guess I just tend to have the outlook that people who put the time and effort into something deserve to get more in return than those that can't be arsed. 

If R* wanted to make the PvP elements a level playing field by giving everybody access to everything regardless of rank I couldn't really care less but having rank 1 players in free roam running around with the best horses and weaponry is just throwing the doors open to mass griefing. 

You say the game is mostly PvP but from what I see on this forum there's a lot of people out there playing the game primarily as a co-operative PvE with odd bits of PvP thrown in. 

[HuDawg]

34 minutes ago, CosmoKramer said:

I guess I just tend to have the outlook that people who put the time and effort into something deserve to get more in return

They do get something in return.  Money and real game experience..

36 minutes ago, CosmoKramer said:

but having rank 1 players in free roam running around with the best horses and weaponry is just throwing the doors open to mass griefing. 

If they are on an even playing field.  Obviously the person with more in game experience and a better grasp of game mechanics has the advantage.

If you put the shoe on the other foot for second.  What chance does a level 1 have against a high level griefer currently?   Hes got no chance...