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8 minutes ago, antoniosamuel said:

Since the beginning of Chapter 2 I have been playing in free roam, a couple of crimes later and I have a $110 bounty in Handover and a $150 bounty in West Elizabeth. What is the best way to fix this? (Finding a lot of money, restarting the game, etc?)

Loot lots of people and search every drawer etc. You will find rings and pocket watches and all sorts which you can then sell to a fence. Naturally you will make money as you progress through the story too so you can pay off your bounties as you earn.

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3 hours ago, antoniosamuel said:

Since the beginning of Chapter 2 I have been playing in free roam, a couple of crimes later and I have a $110 bounty in Handover and a $150 bounty in West Elizabeth. What is the best way to fix this? (Finding a lot of money, restarting the game, etc?)

 

2 hours ago, Benjo said:

Loot lots of people and search every drawer etc. You will find rings and pocket watches and all sorts which you can then sell to a fence. Naturally you will make money as you progress through the story too so you can pay off your bounties as you earn.

Or you can just do the gold bar duplicate glitch, and make $15,000 easily within a few minutes. You can keep repeating the glitch until you have as much money as you want. I learned about the glitch when I was almost done with the game, so it's basically worthless to me now, as I already finished the main story. But once you free roam, you can easily do it and have to fun and do whatever you want. 

Others have different views and opinions about doing glitches, but it's there if need be.

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7 hours ago, Benjo said:

Loot lots of people and search every drawer etc. You will find rings and pocket watches and all sorts which you can then sell to a fence. Naturally you will make money as you progress through the story too so you can pay off your bounties as you earn.

Looting will not work to pay off 300+, there simply isnt enough to loot and any crimes you do will just increase the bounties.

Best option I have found to get around this flawed and broken legal system is to simply spend all my money on what I need and go turn myself in with no money. Bounty gets removed and I lose nothing in the process.

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The legal system is flawed, mostly through bad controls + hyper-sensitive NPC reactions leading to too many inadvertent crimes and bounties.  But I'm haven't found it totally broken so far.  Fortunately I have been able to play so far without racking up huge bounties or triggering outrageous escalating crimes - in my game I've mostly got away with stuff (ever more so as I become more careful and control savvy) and not had any major issues.  It might be only a matter of time, or maybe it's a differing play style, or just luck.  I'm not sure.

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13 minutes ago, Poggy said:

The legal system is flawed, mostly through bad controls + hyper-sensitive NPC reactions leading to too many inadvertent crimes and bounties.  But I'm haven't found it totally broken so far.  Fortunately I have been able to play so far without racking up huge bounties or triggering outrageous escalating crimes - in my game I've mostly got away with stuff (ever more so as I become more careful and control savvy) and not had any major issues.  It might be only a matter of time, or maybe it's a differing play style, or just luck.  I'm not sure.

I agree, it is flawed quite a bit.   Someone pulls a gun on me while I'm in the middle of nowhere, so I defend myself and shoot them.  A witness always seems to be conveniently in the middle of nowhere when this happens.  Even if I stick around for 3-4 minutes after I kill the person, someone shows up and apparently witnessed it from a mile away?  How could they have POSSIBLY seen that happen?  And they automatically assume it's me. So, I get a bounty. And how come when NPC'S shoot at ME, the law doesn't show up?  

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35 minutes ago, Lucixir said:

this flawed and broken legal system

I swear it's Groundhog day around here.

8 hours ago, antoniosamuel said:

Since the beginning of Chapter 2 I have been playing in free roam, a couple of crimes later and I have a $110 bounty in Handover and a $150 bounty in West Elizabeth. What is the best way to fix this? (Finding a lot of money, restarting the game, etc?)

Those must have been some impressive crimes.  I have to try to get my bounty that high--it rarely exceeds $15 or $20.

26 minutes ago, Poggy said:

maybe it's a differing play style

Bingo.

9 minutes ago, Jackthestripper said:

Even if I stick around for 3-4 minutes after I kill the person, someone shows up and apparently witnessed it from a mile away?  How could they have POSSIBLY seen that happen?  And they automatically assume it's me.

Probably because you're standing over a dead body.  That's what's happened to me a few times.  Now, I either get out of there quickly, or I take the body with me and avoid roads.  That usually does the trick.  And, when out in the wilderness, always, ALWAYS kill the witness too.  I've never had more than two consecutive witnesses to a crime, so it's usually a quick cleanup.  One body on my horse, one on their horse, and then you tell that horse to flee, or you ride it yourself and have your horse follow you off-road.  Dump the bodies in a ditch or in a nice shrubbery, and go about your business.

If anything, the game is guilty of being a little too realistic.  Folks are saying the system is broken, but in most cases now (and even back then), if "The Law" saw that you were involved in an incident, you were taken in for questioning or arrested.   They have to take shortcuts in a game like this because nobody was interested in playing "CSI: 1899" and watching Horatio Caine dig through horse droppings with sunglasses making stupid puns.

I can see it now: the deputy picks up a hat and walks over to Horatio, who's looking at a body with no head.

Deputy: "Well, there's blood on the hat.  Looks expensive."

Horatio: "It appears that it was worth losing his head over it."

(Cue Roger Daltrey's iconic "YEEEEAAAAHHHHH" scream)

 

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@Poggy Play style just about sums it up. 

You have to kill piles of people and hang around for your bounty to be up that high. Especially that early in the game. Or just continue to let your bounties sit unpaid and build on each other.

This is not GTA. 

I had a bounty get up to around 40 bucks at one point because I did some unspeakable things but I had to work to get it there.

Groundhog day is spot on @BropolloCreed79

 

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26 minutes ago, BropolloCreed79 said:

Probably because you're standing over a dead body.  That's what's happened to me a few times.  Now, I either get out of there quickly, or I take the body with me and avoid roads.  That usually does the trick.  And, when out in the wilderness, always, ALWAYS kill the witness too.  I've never had more than two consecutive witnesses to a crime, so it's usually a quick cleanup.  One body on my horse, one on their horse, and then you tell that horse to flee, or you ride it yourself and have your horse follow you off-road.  Dump the bodies in a ditch or in a nice shrubbery, and go about your business.

All good points....I have typically tried killing witnesses and it has saved me a few times.  I think your point about getting out of there quick is probably most important.  No more looting for $12, it isn't worth it!  Albeit, sometimes the witnesses took off and I didn't have the chance to shoot them.  Also, from now on I will be wearing my bandana anytime I am out and about, unless I go into a town. 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Jackthestripper said:

All good points....I have typically tried killing witnesses and it has saved me a few times.  I think your point about getting out of there quick is probably most important.  No more looting for $12, it isn't worth it!  Albeit, sometimes the witnesses took off and I didn't have the chance to shoot them.  Also, from now on I will be wearing my bandana anytime I am out and about, unless I go into a town. 

I'm a big proponent of taking their horse, too.  You can always check the saddle bags after you get back to camp, or before you sell it off at the stable.  Bonus: you can put a carcass or hide on the back of that horse to sell off, too.  Great for hunting buffalo!

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10 hours ago, antoniosamuel said:

Since the beginning of Chapter 2 I have been playing in free roam, a couple of crimes later and I have a $110 bounty in Handover and a $150 bounty in West Elizabeth. What is the best way to fix this? (Finding a lot of money, restarting the game, etc?)

Well, it isn't because of this, but I am starting over.  I haven't had a time I don't have a bounty on me.  I have read of players that don't pay bounties at all and have completed the game just fine.

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2 hours ago, BropolloCreed79 said:

 

Those must have been some impressive crimes.  I have to try to get my bounty that high--it rarely exceeds $15 or $20.

Kill a few law dogs in the process of your crimes and your bounty will skyrocket.  Hell I got a $50 bounty in Saint Dennis, just for bumping into someone with my horse.  

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Poggy said:

From the guide ($):

Animal Cruelty  5-10

Assault 5

Jail Break 25

Murder 15-20

Looting 5

Theft 5-10

Unarmed Assault 5

Huh... I wonder why I have such a high bounty in Saint Dennis, I had literally just arrived there from a stranger mission needing a ride there.  I was almost to their destination when I happen to clip  a person with the horse, next thing I know I see a $50 bounty on my head

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Maybe it all adds up instantly - assault + disturbing the peace + animal cruelty or something like that.  Or maybe the guide is simply wrong. 

But I have never seen such a high bounty for a trivial action, so it could also be a glitch :(

 

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The guide notes that some crimes, like Arson, are considered more severe in towns than in the wilderness, some the reverse.  It also gives a list of crimes, the bounties, and their severity (low, Medium or High). 

But it also mentions that the more severe the crime the higher the bounty, yet this isnt reflected in the chart - so Assault (high) is $5, same as Trespassing (Low) $5.  And Unarmed assault is Medium in wilderness, Low in towns, yet either way is only listed as $5.

I suspect the super high bounties many, but not all, are experiencing are a combination of some hidden mechanics not known (or in the guide) plus maybe some glitches.

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8 minutes ago, Poggy said:

I suspect the super high bounties many, but not all, are experiencing are a combination of some hidden mechanics not known (or in the guide) plus maybe some glitches.

I don't mind the bounty amounts, but it definitely has been glitchy. I once got a bounty when entering a new area with no explanation at all. There weren't even any other people or animals nearby.

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15 minutes ago, Skysaw said:

I don't mind the bounty amounts, but it definitely has been glitchy. I once got a bounty when entering a new area with no explanation at all. There weren't even any other people or animals nearby.

Lost a horse that way.

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