RON Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 I had an interesting conversation with my brother's friend New Year's Eve. He was defending Disney. I just don't understand why. He is very anti-capitalism, very anti-big corporation, and believes people should be held accountable today for past mistakes dealing with sexism and racism. I explained Disney's sexist and racists past to him, he still defended them. I then explained how they are taking over the entertainment world and making it hard for anyone to compete with them while targeting other companies in a hopes to either buy them or run them out of business. Again, he defended them. I get like Disney and even Disney movies/shows, etc. but if you are against them on a moral basis and lie to yourself about it, doesn't that make you a pretty big hypocrite? A bit if a random rant here. I personally can't stand Disney and how they milk money out of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BropolloCreed79 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 I can't speak for anyone else, but The Mandalorian is my reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parzival Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 9 hours ago, RON said: I get like Disney and even Disney movies/shows, etc. but if you are against them on a moral basis and lie to yourself about it, doesn't that make you a pretty big hypocrite? Yes. Yes, it does. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttlint Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) They warped my mind when I was but a wee lad. Edited January 3, 2020 by Kean_1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anc1entC0re Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 19 hours ago, BropolloCreed79 said: I can't speak for anyone else, but The Mandalorian is my reason. This is honestly the best thing they have done in a long time. I feel like for most people outside of a child audience, this is the only thing keeping the adult fanbase content. I mean the least few movies (Star Wars) were not great to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfire Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 I am fine with businesses expanding, after all, the general public allowed it to happen. If people really cared, Disney would go under in a year but clearly not enough people care to stop buying their products and watching their films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RON Posted January 4, 2020 Author Share Posted January 4, 2020 On 1/3/2020 at 5:22 AM, Parzival said: Yes. Yes, it does. Yeah, thought so. If I would call people out on this though, they would get offended and likely chew off my head. I guess it is true what they say, a lot of people do hate the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dIV4r Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Disney has been around for a long, long time. The morals and ideals made have changed within the company, but the fact that they are a corporation who concerns themselves with making as much money as possible hasn't changed. They will always have an audience in children and parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAK3S Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 On 1/5/2020 at 12:33 PM, dIV4r said: Disney has been around for a long, long time. The morals and ideals made have changed within the company, but the fact that they are a corporation who concerns themselves with making as much money as possible hasn't changed. They will always have an audience in children and parents. Yeah that is what I was thinking. I mean a lot of people, I would estimate most people in the US, have grown up on Disney films or even TV shows. You know how people get about things they grew up with and general nostalgia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsugarskull Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 I can't hate on Disney for wanting to own as much as legally possible but I do think monopolizing certain markets the the degree they have should not be legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakshow9191 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 (edited) So where does it end? If you base your decisions on sexism and racism of companies in the past then you wouldn't drive a car, fly on a plane, use electricity and so on. If you found out the power company that provides power to your neighborhood currently practices and encourages sexism and racism,would you go off the grid? And All big companies try to eliminate the competition, including the company that builds the platform you play red dead on, or the phone or computer company you're typing this thread on. Edited January 9, 2020 by Freakshow9191 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabApples Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 The same reason people throw money at strippers... They either like what they are seeing or they lie to themselves about liking what they are seeing to fit in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dIV4r Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 On 1/9/2020 at 3:41 PM, Freakshow9191 said: So where does it end? If you base your decisions on sexism and racism of companies in the past then you wouldn't drive a car, fly on a plane, use electricity and so on. If you found out the power company that provides power to your neighborhood currently practices and encourages sexism and racism,would you go off the grid? And All big companies try to eliminate the competition, including the company that builds the platform you play red dead on, or the phone or computer company you're typing this thread on. This is the funny thing about today's society. Favoritism is what saves you from past mistakes. We have all made mistakes in the past be it as individuals, groups, or companies. We also have to consider how different it is today compared to when these "mistakes" were made. So many things way back when were normal and everyday things that were acceptable at large and most of this stuff would not be acceptable today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parzival Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 4 hours ago, dIV4r said: This is the funny thing about today's society. Favoritism is what saves you from past mistakes. We have all made mistakes in the past be it as individuals, groups, or companies. We also have to consider how different it is today compared to when these "mistakes" were made. So many things way back when were normal and everyday things that were acceptable at large and most of this stuff would not be acceptable today. It's simply a matter of a continually evolving society. Things that are acceptable today might be considered totally out of line in 50 years' time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dIV4r Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 On 1/16/2020 at 2:58 AM, Parzival said: It's simply a matter of a continually evolving society. Things that are acceptable today might be considered totally out of line in 50 years' time. Exactly, which is why we need to judge according to time if we are to do it. Hold people accountable to the time frame in which something happened. This all just reminds me of the people (mostly teens and 20 somethings) complaining and having fits in outrage over statues from our history because the statue is of a said person who owned slaves. You go back far enough, most people did and it wasn't only "racist white people". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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