lumper Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 My 4k Vizio died last week, I am looking at repairing it now, if it isnt to much Ill have a tech do it otherwise I am going to order the boards and swap them out myself and rebuild it essentially. In the meantime I had to pull out my old rear projection 60" Mitsubishi hd tv I bought back in 2008. The difference is stunning, it hurts my eyes it is so bad to be honest, even an lcd or led hd would be a huge improvement over the soft look of the rear projection. It got me thinking I wonder what everyone these days is gaming on as far as consoles go. Prices have been plummeting as technologies come out, now with mini and micro led's and Oled has maxed out its potential, another big sweep of changes are on the way which will drive down the prices again on oled and most led's too. If you are at all like me and keep up on tech, you know vsync and other refresh rate options are coming out on certain brands making them great for gaming with low latency in both hd and 4k models. You can get a really nice budget 4k smart tv with hdr and variable refresh rates for under $300 and all the way up to $8000 so there is a huge rainbow or options available today comapred to a few years ago. When I bought my Vizio 4k it was $2500, same tv today is $1500, and if you dont mind a smaller size the prices are even lower, a 50" can be had for $250 to $300 brand new and although they are budget models they produce a pretty impressive image, far better than hd, even if you dont have a 4k console they upscale everything and look great. What is everyone that plays on a console using for their panel? what size, what format, what brand? New models have hdmi 2.1 and usb 3.0 which open up the throughput quit a bit, allowing for even better content. I am hoping to spend under $400 and replace a couple of my inner motherboards essentially renewing my tv for the next 5 years while I save up for our next tv, I am considering the LG Oled, now that they have added a firmware update adding vsync for variable refresh rates they are great for gaming, and have superior quality picture quality but have been out of my price range for the past 2 years, but now they are dropping as mini and micro leds are coming out. My problem is I am spoiled and I just love a 65" to 77" screen, if I could live with a 43" to 50" I could afford one, but........I cant. I want that huge picture there is just nothing like a 70" 4k image it is like having a movie theater in your house. I just cant afford one at the moment. Anyway after using my rear projection hd tv today I thought, I wonder if anyone else is playing like this. This is one of my favorite times of year right after ces the electronic expo in Vegas that shows the coming tech for 2020 and beyond, everytime this happens yesterdays tech starts dropping in prices, I usually buy last years stuff when it comes down to an affordable to me price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsugarskull Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 I haven't played console in some time but when I do, it is just a basic full HD LG tv. I can't remember the specs. I got it on sale at Bestbuy for $300 I think. I mainly game on PC and use a full HD acer monitor, 24 inch I believe. I have yet to upgrade to 4k. For me, personally, I don't see the point. Things do look better but not enough to upgrade. I don't work with photo of video editing so a 4K monitor isn't needed for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YellowDragon Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 I got this a few years ago, without the wall mount: https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-UN50NU6900-Cleaner-SurgePro-6-Outlet/dp/B07HDLWHV7 I believe I paid $600 for it at the time. Amazing how prices drop so fast for TV these days. Never liked Vizio TVs. I gone through 3 of them and they all had issues within the first year of owning them. I stick with Samsung now. Never had problems with those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxtrot Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 I'm using a 55" LG OLED TV. Suits me just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumper Posted January 20, 2020 Author Share Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, xsugarskull said: I haven't played console in some time but when I do, it is just a basic full HD LG tv. I can't remember the specs. I got it on sale at Bestbuy for $300 I think. I mainly game on PC and use a full HD acer monitor, 24 inch I believe. I have yet to upgrade to 4k. For me, personally, I don't see the point. Things do look better but not enough to upgrade. I don't work with photo of video editing so a 4K monitor isn't needed for me. I totally get that and your right hd can look amazing still, nothing wrong with that. 12 hours ago, YellowDragon said: I got this a few years ago, without the wall mount: https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-UN50NU6900-Cleaner-SurgePro-6-Outlet/dp/B07HDLWHV7 I believe I paid $600 for it at the time. Amazing how prices drop so fast for TV these days. Never liked Vizio TVs. I gone through 3 of them and they all had issues within the first year of owning them. I stick with Samsung now. Never had problems with those. I do love the Vizio sstuff from 2014 at that time it was revolutionary to buy a 70" full array 4k smart tv for $2000, later they changed ODM's and OEM's and Foxconn bought more stock changing the way they buy and build their tv's and thijgs have declined. Although at CEs 2020 they brought in a new P series Quantum x and oled that have a new engine in them making them a much better contender to compete with Samsung again, but for my money I am done with Vizio for the time being. Samsung has topped out its Qled tech and is moving into mini led tech that will be on shelves in June supposedly, and they currently have the best led gaming tv's at that price point. The LG oleds are hands down best image quality, best darks, not the brightest peak brightness but they did just add a firmware update giving them Vsync making them the ultimate gaming tv at this moment, there is no better tv to game on with a console right now and due to the timing, the prices are plummeting, what was $3800 is now $1300, I am planning on getting the 65" oled at tax time. 10 hours ago, Foxtrot said: I'm using a 55" LG OLED TV. Suits me just fine. You sir have a sick gaming tv, congratulations, I can only imagne how amazing the picture quality is. My vizio looks damn good, but not as good as any oled with gsync, and my Mitsubishi rear projection lol looks like a blury mess in comparison, I am jealous for a moment, but then I remember in 4 weeks Ill have my tax returns figured out and I have an order ready to be placed for my 65" C9 Oled. I am going back and forth between the b9 and c9 but for the $300 difference I am going to just go with the leader, the C9. Edited January 20, 2020 by lumper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kean_1 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 I play on our 58" monitor (from a large tech company) that I used to work at for nearly 30 years. It's 7 years old and other than some features that I never had a use for (cloud) and frankly never worked right from the beginning, it's been an absolute tank in regard to reliability. The picture still looks great and there are no issues with the quality / performance. I'm quite happy with it. I'm not sure what route we would go if we had to replace it but I'm not one to spend tons of money on the absolute latest in technology. ....but I also don't go the cheap route just because a mfg offers all those other features. I'd rather have a solid product from a solid mfg with perhaps the not so latest features at a decent price which still provides a great level of performance I can be happy with. My mentality regarding computers was the same back when I was still building them. ......some other tech as well as a matter of fact (e.g speakers / sound systems, etc.). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boot Smith Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Shadow Tech - Streaming. Won't be buying another laptop. Last one I bought was a Gigabyte Areo 14. Fans can get a bit loud, but it's a great machine for gaming. Also using the beta version of GeForece Now which is also good as you grab the games form a library. Can't play any Rockstar games via GFN though. Which is a shame. If you are interested in using Shadow, I have a referral code which gets you £10 off your first month so you can try it out. DARSAIFS Also, knocks some bucks off my subscription if used so thanks in advance if you do. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumper Posted January 21, 2020 Author Share Posted January 21, 2020 21 hours ago, Kean_1 said: I play on our 58" monitor (from a large tech company) that I used to work at for nearly 30 years. It's 7 years old and other than some features that I never had a use for (cloud) and frankly never worked right from the beginning, it's been an absolute tank in regard to reliability. The picture still looks great and there are no issues with the quality / performance. I'm quite happy with it. I'm not sure what route we would go if we had to replace it but I'm not one to spend tons of money on the absolute latest in technology. ....but I also don't go the cheap route just because a mfg offers all those other features. I'd rather have a solid product from a solid mfg with perhaps the not so latest features at a decent price which still provides a great level of performance I can be happy with. My mentality regarding computers was the same back when I was still building them. ......some other tech as well as a matter of fact (e.g speakers / sound systems, etc.). I feel the same way, I never buy the latest, but I like to buy 1 year old tech after it has been proven and the new stuff is about to drop. Like right now, 8k, and mini led and other tech is shown at CES, will be on shelves in most cases by June. The stuff that was out this time last year and was very expensive is now %40 to %70 off where it was 9 months ago, plus they recently added features that only the newest tech in 2020 will have standard, like gsync compatible and free sync, and hdmi 2.1 They added these features to the LG oled line up the 9 series. The C9 is the undisputed leader in gaming and picture quality right now, there really isnt anything out there better or better looking with as low input lag. The C9 in 65" was nearly $4000.00 last year, you can buy one now for $1800, this is where I shine. Now I can do even better and get a lower priced 9 series Oled like the B9 or other, but to me at this point, for the extra $200 or $300 I would prefer to just get the flagship model, if they were $500 apart, then I would step back to the B series, and just get the Alpha 8 engine, but the Alpha 9 gen 2 engine is the best in these models and in 2020 they changed it to gen 3, so to me, if I am going to spend $1500 for second best, I may as well just spend $1800 and get the best. All I know is that 6 years later, every single time I turn on my Vizio 70" I smile, I love this picture everytime and it doesnt even compare to the Oled, so I figured, for the way I use them, and how amazingly beautiful it is, I am all in. Especially since right now, the Qr90 led from Samsung, the number 2 option out there, is actually $2600 for the same size as the oled, where it is usually the opposite, the oleds were traditionally more money, but because of timing, right now you can steal the show with an Oled for $800 less than the comparable Qled, and the differences are very real and worth every penny, the hdmi 2.1 and gsync makes this 9 series oled the best gaming tv out right now and if you have ever stood in front of one to ssee the picture quality then you know how amazing these Oleds look, I cant wait to see RDR2 on a 65" Oled with gsync, Im foaming at the mouth right now. I love tech, I always have, I used to build gaming rigs from 2000 til 2008, then I took a break, but now I want to take some classes and get certified to learn soldering and testing perf boards and other electronics repair, if I knew how to do that I coudl have repaired my tv for under $5, instead of $200 I have to pay a guy to do it for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumper Posted January 21, 2020 Author Share Posted January 21, 2020 So, I found out what was up with my Vizio I need a $200 repair, they have to replace a bad capacitor or transistor or both on my power supply board. Parts run around .35 to .75 cents each and the repair can be done in less than 1 hour, I wish I was capable of diagnostics and perf soldering I could save some money here, but for $200 I am 100% satisfied and happy to pay it. So after what will end up being a week without my tv, I learned a ton of stuff, learned way too much about 2019 and 2020 models and tech as it pertains to led and oled tvs, and I made up my mind to buy a new Oled tv in a few weeks when we get our tax return back. Im just happy that I can afford the fix on my Vizio, although it is a 2014 model with no hdr I love this tv, it was the first "real" tv I have ever owned and the most I ever paid for a tv, back then I paid $2000.00 even for it cash, they were $2600.00 but I sniffed out a cash deal as I always do this time of year. RDR2 looks so amazing on nearly any type of screen, even on my really crappy rear projection hd tv the game looks pretty good, I mean to me it looks awful, but I am used to it in 4k and clear as can be. Now I am stoked to see the game in all its glory on an Oled and the new tv I am buying is set up to handle the next gen consoles coming out, where it has 120 hz refresh rate at 4k, so 4k/60 will be super simple and with gsync on should run flawlessly, Now Im psyched for 2020 gaming like never before. If you ever think you may want to upgrade your tv, my advice is to wit until Feb or early March in any given year. they have their trade shows and CEs in January, once they announce the new tech and let everyone know what will be on shelves in June or July, the old tech starts plummeting in prices and opens up possibilities for budget minded people like myself. I love a bargain, and I have seen a ton of people who bought the LG 9 series tvs earlier this year for full retail, over $3000.00, today you can find them for between $1790.00 and $2100, so a substantial discount and just because of timing. It sometimes pays to wait for the new tech to drop as it might have features you will want in a year, so you wait, problem is if you want for the new tech, when it drops in June it will be full retail for 3 to 6 months, but by Jan of the following year it will again start dropping. Because Oled tech is pretty much maxed out at this point, companies like LG are filing patents for new tech, mini led, 8k and other options for the coming year, indicating Oled tech has hit its wall, there isnt much they can do at this point to make it any better, so to keep growing they move on to the next tech, so this year in particular is maybe the best time ever to buy a high end Oled for a mid range price. My Vizio was $2600 retail when I bought it and the Oled is on a whole other level, and for me will be around $800 less, so this is a unique time to get in on Oled if you have ever thought about it. The only thing I dislike about Oled is that I cant afford a larger unit, I have a 70" LED now so going to a 65" bugs me, but the 77" oled is $4k and way out of my budget, I dont want to spend more than $2000.00 on a tv regardless of what it is, but a 65" is still a decent size for my space and will look amazing!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxtrot Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 OLED screens are to some extend suseptible to screen burn, especially if you play the same game pretty much constantly and that game has a static element (like the map circle in RDR2). My screen use is varied enough for this not to be a consideration for me - I mainly use my LG C8 for TV/movies after all. I was thinking about the C9, but at the time of purchase, it was reviewed as being only slightly better for a lot more money. For a TV, it's the best screen I've ever seen - especially with HDR Netflix content. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brennanchilders246 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 i use my xbox one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizTik Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 12 hours ago, Foxtrot said: OLED screens are to some extend suseptible to screen burn, especially if you play the same game pretty much constantly and that game has a static element (like the map circle in RDR2). My screen use is varied enough for this not to be a consideration for me - I mainly use my LG C8 for TV/movies after all. I was thinking about the C9, but at the time of purchase, it was reviewed as being only slightly better for a lot more money. For a TV, it's the best screen I've ever seen - especially with HDR Netflix content. My friend had this happen to his TV, three times. It is always the stuck images on the screen like maps and what not. He finally got away from OLED tvs and he is a lot happier because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxtrot Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 1 hour ago, mizTik said: My friend had this happen to his TV, three times. It is always the stuck images on the screen like maps and what not. He finally got away from OLED tvs and he is a lot happier because of it. Yeah, constant gaming will be a problem. RTings.com did a long term OLED burn test, and it took a while for gaming screens to cause burn in. Read the full story here. https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/real-life-oled-burn-in-test Since I change around what I view quite a lot, I'm not concerned, especially given that I own a TV for about 4 years at a time before getting something new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FruitOfTheLum Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 I used to play all my games on PS4, but I inherited an Xbox One last year and I how prefer the controller feels, so I've shifted over to that mostly now. Haven't really noticed a difference otherwise! I play on an old (2012?) Samsung LED 1080p TV. I used to have a Panasonic soundbar but it died, so I've hooked it up to a Logitech iPod dock thingy until I can replace it. Even my undemanding tastes couldn't handle the TV speakers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumper Posted January 24, 2020 Author Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) On 1/21/2020 at 12:33 PM, Foxtrot said: OLED screens are to some extend suseptible to screen burn, especially if you play the same game pretty much constantly and that game has a static element (like the map circle in RDR2). My screen use is varied enough for this not to be a consideration for me - I mainly use my LG C8 for TV/movies after all. I was thinking about the C9, but at the time of purchase, it was reviewed as being only slightly better for a lot more money. For a TV, it's the best screen I've ever seen - especially with HDR Netflix content. Actually yes you can def burn an image on an Oled, and the brighter you make it and the longer you keep a static image on the screen you are more susceptible to it, BUT they have largely mitigated this with new technologies and today the problem is far less frequent and LG is offering 4 year protection against it, if it happens they will replace the panel parts and labor, I talked to them earlier today about this very thing, as it was my only concern. The fact is there wont be a better looking image than Oled until 2025/2026 so for the next 4 or 5 years this is about as good as it gets, and knowing they will warranty against it, and the things you can do to reduce chances of it happening, I am all in. On 1/22/2020 at 2:22 AM, Foxtrot said: Yeah, constant gaming will be a problem. RTings.com did a long term OLED burn test, and it took a while for gaming screens to cause burn in. Read the full story here. https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/real-life-oled-burn-in-test Since I change around what I view quite a lot, I'm not concerned, especially given that I own a TV for about 4 years at a time before getting something new. Not only did I study those tests, but I also watched several others from all over the net, the 10,000 hours burn they did at Rtings on most of the test samples still hasnt burnt an image, although I think the footbal one might have, on the C9, after 20 hours a day with static images and peak brightness they arent getting it, thousands of people bought these panels since 2016, the c6, 7, 8 and now 9 series and less than 2% have had issues, and a % of those were replaced free by Lg, for my money to have the very best image I can get at a great price, I am willing to chance it. I hear you about every 4 years or so, for me it is a bit longer. I like to spend around $2000.00 when I buy a new tv, so I try to get 5 years plus, my current tv is a Vizio P series from 2014, I still love this tv even though it isnt even close to the ones I am looking at to replace it, I do love this image and size, the 70" looks awesome!! I think now that I just replaced a bad capacitor on it, I will hopefully get another 5 years out of it or more as it wont be used for gaming anymore and will be retired to my bedroom where my wife uses it mostly for cooking shows and stuff. The oled I am buying, I full expect to get at least 5 years out of it, and more if I can, if it gets burn in, hopefully it will happen in the first 4 years and they will replace it for me, but we will have to wait and see. The second best image right now would be the Q90, not the 8k Q90r but the 4k Q90 and frankly it is more expensive, has less contrast and not as good black levels, where it shines is peak brightness, but I play and watch in a dark room, so peak brightness doesnt interest me, but the picture it amazing, lets not pretend it is bad, it just isnt as good as an oled. I have never owned an oled, or a tv of this level, all reviews I can find across the board when comparing the LG C9 to the Q90 and other offerings at that level all say except for the possibility of burn in and peak brightness, the Oled is the best image quality and best for gaming period in 2019 and 2020 so far. Following the tech future and each companies plans going forward FOMO made good video about this part, and it will be 5 years or more before the oled isnt the better image, buying one now with future proof hdmi, earc, free sync, gsync, vll, etc.. means when the consoles come later this year with 4k@60 - 120 this model tv can do it, so to me the timing is perfect for it, and the final nail for me, was that the Oled which is the more expensive tech, is actually $500 less than the comparable top dog at Samsung the Q90, they are on sale at $2600 for the 65" whereas the Oled C9 at 65" is $2100 and it can be found for $1800 on several sites, so to me, for my needs, and what I want, the choice is clear, although either tv would be amazing, the Samsung doesnt have the hdmi 2.1 yet although they may be able to offer everything that hdmi 2.1 brings, they were just late filing for patents still I like the idea of being good to go out of the box, no dongles or add on's/ upgrades later. All I know is I have had crt's, rear projection dlp's, full array 4k led's, and now it is time for an Oled, for better or worse, that is what my heart is set on. To each his own for sure, and honestly any of the top contenders out right now look amazing, better than anything previously in most cases, although the Samsung offerings of 2018 in some cases look better than their 2019 image quality as they made only a few changes to the tech for better viewing angles and peak brightness, they all look damn good. RDR2 will look simply awesome on a new 65" oled @ 4k in hdr, I cant wait, just a few weeks away. Edited January 24, 2020 by lumper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxtrot Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Yeah, I only really bought my C8 because my old Samsung didn't really offer the level of HDR that my Xbox really wanted. Technology is the buying driver for me - my last Samsung because it was UHD. The viewing angles of the C8 are fantastic as well, I don't need to sit perpendicularly to the TV to get the best image any more. Having said that RDR2 and other games still look like games on the OLED screens. Better than before, but not really photo-real. I'm interested to see what the next gen has in terms of graphic capability, but it'll be a few years until we see something truely stupendous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsugarskull Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 On 1/20/2020 at 12:30 PM, lumper said: I totally get that and your right hd can look amazing still, nothing wrong with that. Don't get me wrong though, I get why people upgrade but if you don't have the funds and don't do much with the screen, it isn't really necessary. I will wait until the next huge update happens before I upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YellowDragon Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 On 1/20/2020 at 12:30 PM, lumper said: I do love the Vizio sstuff from 2014 at that time it was revolutionary to buy a 70" full array 4k smart tv for $2000, later they changed ODM's and OEM's and Foxconn bought more stock changing the way they buy and build their tv's and thijgs have declined. Although at CEs 2020 they brought in a new P series Quantum x and oled that have a new engine in them making them a much better contender to compete with Samsung again, but for my money I am done with Vizio for the time being. Samsung has topped out its Qled tech and is moving into mini led tech that will be on shelves in June supposedly, and they currently have the best led gaming tv's at that price point. The LG oleds are hands down best image quality, best darks, not the brightest peak brightness but they did just add a firmware update giving them Vsync making them the ultimate gaming tv at this moment, there is no better tv to game on with a console right now and due to the timing, the prices are plummeting, what was $3800 is now $1300, I am planning on getting the 65" oled at tax time. I am talking like 2008 to 2012. Maybe they have improved since I owned their TVs. I hadn't heard of Samsung doing that, pretty interesting. And yeah LG seems to have the best quality over all. They tend to be out of my price range every time I had been in the market for a TV, at least for what specs I would want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumper Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) On 2/1/2020 at 5:15 PM, YellowDragon said: I am talking like 2008 to 2012. Maybe they have improved since I owned their TVs. I hadn't heard of Samsung doing that, pretty interesting. And yeah LG seems to have the best quality over all. They tend to be out of my price range every time I had been in the market for a TV, at least for what specs I would want. Just so you know, it is has never been a better time to buy an Old than right now, even the Samsung Qleds are more expensive and the Oleds are way nicer, what was 15k$ a few years ago is $2500 now. You can get the B9 65" for $1500 and the C9 for $1900 Well it seems every 6 years to the month we buy a new tv. It just worked out that way. 2008 Mitsubishi 60" dlp hd tv rear projection 2014 Vizio P series 70" full array 4k tv 2020 LG 65" E9 Oled I just ordered the E9 this morning, I was able to buy it for less than the C9 is on sale at Best Buy right now. It is a $4000.00 tv, I bought it for $2100.00 We waited for tax time and figured what our budget was, and then waited, we filed on the first day that you could so we could buy early, I tried to make the Super bowl sales but missed them by a week. anyway, I dont have much money to work with, for the past 6 years we havent bought any large purchases, havent taken a vacation, we dont eat out or drink, or smoke, etc.. So we decided lets do it, its time. It will be here next week, I cant wait. I havent been playing very much RDR2, I do play everyday to keep my daily challenge streak going, I have 120 gold or something so I dont want to reset that, but I just jump in, do a couple easy ones and bail. Until they fix it I have no interest, BUT now that my tv is coming, I can finally go back to play the story mode again, I started a play through when the animal spawns got real bad about 4 months ago and I havent gone back to it in a while, as soon as my tv died and needed a repair I knew I was upgrading and so I figured Ill wait til I get the new panel, I am glad I did, I cant wait to see the game on the Oled. The next gen consoles come out next year or maybe holiday 2020 if delays dont plague them, and then the hdmi 2.1 allowing for 4k 60 - 120 will be the real exciting time to play it again, and now I am ready for it with this tv, I cant wait. Im wondering if 1440 @ 120 will improve stuttering in Valentine and St Denis, I dont know how it will run, but I am going to try this day 1 and find out, if I can unlock the 30 fps lock it has now and get it in variable refresh rate mode or gsync etc.. that would be amazing!! Ill post back after I set it up, it should be here next Tuesday but I am getting Thursday in my head just in case so I am not anxious, it is only coming from NJ to CT so I suspect it will be quick. https://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-OLED65E9PUA-oled-4k-tv This one has the all glass panel, front firing 4.2 atmos speakers, invisible stand, and a whole bunch of features for the "Elegant" version of the C9. I hear ya about budgets for stuff like this. this is the nicest tv we ever bought and it took til I was 50 to be able to do it, lol so yeah, I get it. EDIT: UPDATE: There was an issue with my bank and a fraud alert they use to limit my purchases, it took an extra day to get the funds released and pay for it, so my order was delayed, it went out today instead of last Friday, so now we have an estimated delivery date of the 21st, this Friday, so if it doesnt get delayed til next Monday, I should be all set on Friday this week, I hope. Ill update this when it comes. I studied tv pricing trends and found that Nov through April is the best time to buy a new tv, as prices hit their all time lows for that particular model year after Black Friday and again around Super Bowl and Presidents day which happens to coordinate with tax season. So if you plan to use your tax return to buy a new tv, which is what we do every 6 years, you can do very well on price, we saved over $2000.00 I have a friend who ordered the same tv 9 months ago for $1800.00 more than we paid. Edited February 18, 2020 by lumper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumper Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) Well, my new tv arrived yesterday, WoW!! This thing is beautiful. I ended up with an LG 65" E9 I have a couple of issues I need to figure out, but I know I can, I just need to get familair with the tv, but so far the image quality is awesome!! Ive got all day to dive into it and figure out the settings. this was the first time I ever saw my xbx 1x 4k settings all lit up green with green check boxes next to every single option, very cool. I put it in 1440 @ 120hz and rode into Valentine and St Denis and did not get the stutter I always get like it feels like frames drop into the teens usually, well now it stays smooth like anywhere else in the map, even at 4k 60 hz it was smoother and no stuttering, only thing different is my tv, on one is lags and stutters on the other it doesnt, I cant wait to get this all set up today and really see my games in all their glory, time to go back and play the story mode again now. I solved the two issues I had, and now......It is perfect!! so awesome!! There was a firmware update that solved the hdr thing, and black screens and there is a deep color setting for hdmi and when I disabled that, smooth as butta when I pan now, so 100% back to perfect and now looking even better than before. RDR2 on an oled is the pinnacle of my gaming life to this point, 40 years of gaming, this is the best Ive ever seen. Edited February 25, 2020 by Kean_1 combined consecutive posts 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumper Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share Posted February 27, 2020 I had to add this, it is too funny. So, I upgraded for several reasons, but to me, the biggest was to be future proofed for gaming with hdmi 2.1 and 4k/120 when it comes next year, but a big part of that was so I could then lay rdr2 on the series X and hopefully see it beyond the 30 fps it is locked at now. Anyway I have been playing since launch on a pre hdr tv, so I have never played rdr2 with hdr on. I figured that too will be an added benefit, well turns out the HDR in RDR2 doesnt work properly it isnt really hdr. High dynamic range means the range between black and the brightest bright is greater than normally, so you get brighter highlights and specular highlights you can see etc.. But in RDR2, the range stays exactly the same it just moves from darker to more bright, but the gap in between never fluctuates, so it isnt HDr, it is some form of a fake HDR. Anyway with xbx1x and rdr2 if you use hdr on an LG oled anyway you get this bluryness while you are panning around, it is distracting and terrible looking, the only way to clear it up is to disable HDMI deep color, which then disables hdr 10. So, irony being what it is, the tv I bought to play RDR2 in all its glory wont let me play it in hdr!! lol thats funny IT works great in all my other games, they look so amazing, I have never seen them like this before, so playing them all again is a definite to do now, but I thought it was funny, that the one game I really wanted to see this enhancement on I can not. Here is a better explanation of the hdr in RDR2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxtrot Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Yeah, I wasn't too blown away by the RDR2 HDR when I moved to my C8. I find what you say here particularly funny as my old Samsung had an optional external processor that kind of faked HDR on a non-HDR panel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levi83 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) I am playing pokemon glazed game because this game graphics so good. Edited February 14 by Kean_1 Removed suspicious link added later by member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kean_1 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 13 minutes ago, levi83 said: I am playing pokemon glazed game because this game graphics so good. This thread is about what you are playing your games on (what TV/monitor). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levi83 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 11 minutes ago, Kean_1 said: This thread is about what you are playing your games on (what TV/monitor). It depends on what kind a game im playing. If i play something like dota, cs:go ( pvp in general ) i wont use tv because the important variables are response time and refresh rate. Modern TVs are good at response time and refresh rate but they are not even close to regular gaming monitor. But if i play games like rimworld, civ IV (turn based , can be paused or slow game play ) i could use TV because you dont need higher response time or refresh rate on whose games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EjectedCasings Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 I dunno, some random 1080p TV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vendetta Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) Currently I'm playing my Xbox Series S on a 1080p TV. Just picked up the 1TB SSD expansion from Best Buy today and downloading Call of Duty: Warzone. Once I get an Xbox Series X, it will be hooked up to a 4K PC gaming monitor at a desk. I also have an Xbox One X hooked up to a 1080p PC gaming monitor at another location. I prefer a PC gaming monitor at a desk over a TV, but there is something about relaxing on the couch in front of the TV so it really just depends on what you are in the mood for. Edited January 24, 2021 by Vendetta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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