Will we see Jack?

[SNAK3S]

Jack Marston was born in 1895, making him 4 years old when this game starts. Given his age, this is likely why we have not seen Abagail in the trailer. She may only play a smaller role in the story but it may be a turning point in the game so they don't want to spoil it. 

Do you think we will see Jack at all or will they just reference him? Maybe he will be in a minor cutscene or something. 

[Benjo]

This was discussed here: https://www.rdr2.org/forums/topic/672-who-will-turn-on-the-gang-first/?tab=comments#comment-5569

[YodaMan 3D]

I hope not.  He annoyed me in the 1st game.

[Cokeyskunk]

1 hour ago, YodaMan 3D said:

I hope not.  He annoyed me in the 1st game.

I'm glad I wasn't the first one to say this.

Jack annoyed me like Carl in The Walking Dead annoyed me -- trying to be a tough guy in an effort to live up to their fathers' images.

But -- sorry. As sucky as it is, it just doesn't happen. They just come off as wanna-be's who seem to be trying to convince the world they're "just as badass as Dad."

Uh-huh. Okay, Junior. You're just as cool. Go get a haircut.  ????

EDIT: and if we do see Jack -- since it's 1899, he would likely be an tiny kid. And that's fine. Little kids don't annoy me. I just don't wanna see big-bad "Oooh, it's 1923 and Warner Bros. film studio just opened, but I'm still dressing like an Old West cowboy" Jack.

Edited August 6, 2018 by Cokeyskunk

[BropolloCreed79]

26 minutes ago, Cokeyskunk said:

Jack annoyed me like Carl in The Walking Dead annoyed me -- trying to be a tough guy in an effort to live up to their fathers' images.

Edit: Coral was indeed, the worst.

Edited August 6, 2018 by BropolloCreed79

[YodaMan 3D]

Jack & Carl, both hit my annoyance meter off the charts.

[Cokeyskunk]

1 hour ago, YodaMan 3D said:

Jack & Carl, both hit my annoyance meter off the charts.

Worst about Jack, you *had* to finish the game with him. No option to go back to playing as John (as he was suffering from a mild case of death).

[BropolloCreed79]

7 minutes ago, Cokeyskunk said:

Worst about Jack, you *had* to finish the game with him. No option to go back to playing as John (as he was suffering from a mild case of death).

I refuse to acknowledge "Jack" and refer to him as "Water Retention John". 

[Benjo]

1 hour ago, Cokeyskunk said:

Worst about Jack, you *had* to finish the game with him. No option to go back to playing as John (as he was suffering from a mild case of death).

There was a cheat where you could play as John again if I remember. 

[Cokeyskunk]

9 minutes ago, Benjo said:

There was a cheat where you could play as John again if I remember. 

Well, that's nice to know. I'm replaying it, so when I get back there, I'll look for it. Grazie.

[YodaMan 3D]

I would have rather played it as Zombie John, then Jack and his nails on the chalkboard voice.  I always felt like he was about to cry everytime he spoke

Edited August 6, 2018 by YodaMan 3D

[Archbell]

12 hours ago, Cokeyskunk said:

EDIT: and if we do see Jack -- since it's 1899, he would likely be an tiny kid. And that's fine. Little kids don't annoy me. I just don't wanna see big-bad "Oooh, it's 1923 and Warner Bros. film studio just opened, but I'm still dressing like an Old West cowboy" Jack.

Yeah, with Jack being around four I don't think he'll be as insufferable as he was in Red Dead Redemption. Give him a break though, although we don't see much of Jack's future develop I would hope he's not still trying to be an Old West cowboy in 1923.

[LinXX]

I didn't mind Jack so much nearing the end of the game but it always felt... I don't know... Mediocre playing as him. I don't need to see him as a child in the game. I mean if they do show him, it will likely be a very minimal appearance. 

[Cokeyskunk]

11 hours ago, Archbell said:

Yeah, with Jack being around four I don't think he'll be as insufferable as he was in Red Dead Redemption. Give him a break though, although we don't see much of Jack's future develop I would hope he's not still trying to be an Old West cowboy in 1923.

Think about it this way: Jack Marston is roughly the same age as Moe Howard. Granted, Moe was born in New York, but you didn't see HIM running around dressed like a gunslinger in his twenties.

[Benjo]

2 hours ago, Cokeyskunk said:

Think about it this way: Jack Marston is roughly the same age as Moe Howard. Granted, Moe was born in New York, but you didn't see HIM running around dressed like a gunslinger in his twenties.

I can't stop watching the little mouth he blows through on that gif

[Cokeyskunk]

26 minutes ago, Benjo said:

I can't stop watching the little mouth he blows through on that gif

That's hilarious. Didn't notice it, and now that's all I can see!

Upon further research, it appears that Jack Marston was actually born in the very same year as Shemp Howard. 

Kinda makes his cowboy wardrobe all the more goofy, doesn't it?

[Hazed0NE]

On 8/6/2018 at 9:25 AM, BropolloCreed79 said:

Edit: Coral was indeed, the worst.

Carl is like that one character in a story that just brings the worst out in everyone else... So the comparison to Jack here is appropriate. 

[BropolloCreed79]

1 hour ago, Hazed0NE said:

Carl is like that one character in a story that just brings the worst out in everyone else... So the comparison to Jack here is appropriate.

I'd care about that show if it wasn't the same show for the past five seasons.  I'd go into specifics, but I wouldn't want to spoil anything for people who are into it still.  Every Sunday when it's new, my wife watches with more zeal and fervor than when Gray's is on (which is saying something), and I just can't bring myself to watch TWD anymore.  It's so predictable it makes pro wrestling seem unpredictable.

[Archbell]

7 hours ago, Cokeyskunk said:

Think about it this way: Jack Marston is roughly the same age as Moe Howard. Granted, Moe was born in New York, but you didn't see HIM running around dressed like a gunslinger in his twenties.

Yeah but we only see Jack up until 1914 when he is around 18 - 19 years old.

[Cokeyskunk]

27 minutes ago, Archbell said:

Yeah but we only see Jack up until 1914 when he is around 18 - 19 years old.

Eh, close enough to his 20's.

[YodaMan 3D]

17 hours ago, BropolloCreed79 said:

I'd care about that show if it wasn't the same show for the past five seasons.  I'd go into specifics, but I wouldn't want to spoil anything for people who are into it still.  Every Sunday when it's new, my wife watches with more zeal and fervor than when Gray's is on (which is saying something), and I just can't bring myself to watch TWD anymore.  It's so predictable it makes pro wrestling seem unpredictable.

I got to the point of not watching it when every season was a roller coaster ride of hey look it's "Awesome" Rick Grimes the great leader.  Bad guy shows up and hey look it's "Pathetic" Rick Grimes, whose kissing the bad guy's rear.  Some point he becomes "Awesome", then "Pathetic" over and over and over.

[BropolloCreed79]

32 minutes ago, YodaMan 3D said:

I got to the point of not watching it when every season was a roller coaster ride of hey look it's "Awesome" Rick Grimes the great leader.  Bad guy shows up and hey look it's "Pathetic" Rick Grimes, whose kissing the bad guy's rear.  Some point he becomes "Awesome", then "Pathetic" over and over and over.

The good news is, they're breaking the cycle.  Andrew Lincoln is leaving the show after this season.  I guess it'll be someone else's turn to be needlessly irritating.  

[YodaMan 3D]

7 minutes ago, BropolloCreed79 said:

The good news is, they're breaking the cycle.  Andrew Lincoln is leaving the show after this season.  I guess it'll be someone else's turn to be needlessly irritating.  

Rumor a couple of years ago, was Carl was suppose to step up and take lead. 

[Cokeyskunk]

32 minutes ago, YodaMan 3D said:

Rumor a couple of years ago, was Carl was suppose to step up and take lead. 

That would be weird now, wouldn't it?  ????

[CMcC]

Did I just see jack at the fire campfire in the gameplay trailer??

[Kean_1]

47 minutes ago, CMcC said:

Did I just see jack at the fire campfire in the gameplay trailer??

I believe you did:

 

[Reyes]

3 hours ago, Kean_1 said:

I believe you did:

 

Well... That has to be him. So I guess we will see him. Since they are a family unit within the camp, I can see some pretty big things blowing up and betrayals. 

I CAN'T WAIT!!! So much drama I can feel it!