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New video from Digital Foundry. No way Rockstar can ignore this:

I can only imagine how some of those videos would start. "Howdy Miss, I hear there been some rustlin in them bushes, mind if I take a gander". Lol

I bought RDR2 because I watched a youtube video about it months ago and just remembered the name, but by the time I bought it I had forgotten what was in the video, all I remembered was that I had decided to get it. So I start playing opening day, and it was kind of interesting. I'm a huge fan of the Battlefield series, so that's really more of my thing, and I found the game play through the early part of the game rather slow and not really that interesting, honestly. Then later I get to the open world, and I really don't know what is going on, it was my first time playing a game like this and I didn't even understand wtf was supposed to be happening, in fact, I didn't even understand that it was an "open world". I could barely ride my horse, had no idea how the selection of what was in my hand was working, it was all very confusing .. .. But .. The world ... wow. I mean the grass, the clouds, even compared to Battlefield 1 which I think was the prettiest game I had ever played, wtf, how did the people who made this game even come up with this stuff. It's SO beautiful. I thought that from the beginning, but once you get out into the world and start wandering around, it's just so impressive. The detail, the very obvious amount of craftsmanship that went into this game, it is so expansive. And I'm walking around looking at everything and start to figure out mechanics such as being able to study creatures with binoculars, tracking, riding my horse and getting to know it, and yes .. there is a story, and you can work towards that, and I was, .. or, am ? I think. But most of the time it seems like I'm just riding around on my horse. And yes, I could run everywhere and make the game faster, but ... for some reason I just walk, or lead my horse sometimes, walk when I'm on foot, wander around. And then after a few days of this, literally, ... I mean wtf, is this even a game ? I mean I'm enjoying just being in the game, without even advancing the story, just riding around looking at stuff, like you might if you just went out for a walk around the neighborhood. And identifying animals, and watching birds fly around, and the scenery WOW, the little lakes, rivers, the creatures, and the level of detail in the game mechanics for hunting, fishing, etc. Half the time it feels like I'm trying to build my character, and get a better relationship with my horse(s) (now I have two that I wander around with), and it's so exciting to find new places to go and new things to see. And how on EARTH did the people who made this game make so much detail on such a grand scope, such a HUGE map, and it's almost perfect, I mean, footsteps in the mud, the weather, the sounds. I don't even know if it's a game with a point anymore, and I don't even seem to care if it has a point, I've been contented most of the day learning how to use a new lure to lake fish, enjoying new species of fish as I find them. I've almost completely stopped progressing in the story, honestly. Today I deliberately avoided a story line because it was interrupting what I was doing, because I wanted to get something I needed to craft something and had to ride quite a ways to get to it. Which then turned into racing on my horse along the railroad tracks ... for ... umm ... fun, without any point. Is it a game ? A hunting simulation ? A therapy session ? A work of art to be admired ? An instructive encyclopedia and teaching aid ? At this point I don't even know. And I don't seem to care.

Here, this ought to brighten your day. Just happens to coincide with RDR2s launch.......

Just wondering who else is finding this useful. I use it on my iPad as my main map, and it's great! It's much easier to zoom, scroll, and set waypoints. Best of all, you can peek at it during cinematic camera view to make sure your horse isn't going off on some weird tangent, and to see how close you are to your objective. The interface for Arthur's journal is nice too.

I feel they gonna patch it, its just too much noise for Sony to handle i think. And if they fix the blur its really going to look almost identical to X and fixing HDR would be a bonus.

It's almost as if you're thinking like a real outlaw, there MrCreed.

I will say that when I am completing a quest that involves traveling back to another location, I almost never stick to roads. There's less of a risk of being ambushed if you travel "as the crow flies" when finishing something. Sure, you run into the occasional terrain issue, but for the most part, it's safer. You also get the unexpected bonus of running into unmapped points of interest, which is always nice.

I´m sending this video to the support team. This is exactly my problem. Thanks Mr. 4k Upscaler for the Video. I send this one, because this guy using only high quality tvs.

R* games are one of the few that I leave aim assist on. I honestly cannot play GTAV without it. RDR2 seems to be a bit of a different story. Play with all the settings including the acceleration. I got mine to a point where the assist is set at its weakest but it gets me generally where I need to be and then I manually aim. I also can't handle not having it when hunting. .....makes it way more difficult than it needs to be in those cases especially when I am grinding for cash.

Xbox user here. I just dropped by to say I hope they fix that quickly for you guys. Sucks to not be getting the beautiful game you see in the trailers. On the Xbox side, we're also having issues with the HDR. I've been fiddling with options on my TV to optimize for RDR2, even if it makes other games worse for the time being, since I plan on focusing only on this game for awhile. For the moment, I have HDR off, but I'll probably mess around with some more settings tonight to see what I can get.

Agreed.... So is the idea that everyone walked around with a drop holster like you see in all the western movies. Many cowboys wore their holsters at the beltline like most do today. .....not talking about modern military thigh rigs btw which is a whole other debate in itself (vs. chest rigs, what some armor will allow, etc.) Anyhow, thought these photos would be good for the discussion.

Hollywood. Blame Hollywood. For their stories it was more impressive to wield two guns at once. Thing is cowboys like Wyatt Earp has stated you can't shoot accurately like that, you have to aim down your sights and you can't do that with both guns at the same time. Another tidbit, most duels both shooter was within 5 yards of one another.

I swear it's Groundhog day around here. Those must have been some impressive crimes. I have to try to get my bounty that high--it rarely exceeds $15 or $20. Bingo. Probably because you're standing over a dead body. That's what's happened to me a few times. Now, I either get out of there quickly, or I take the body with me and avoid roads. That usually does the trick. And, when out in the wilderness, always, ALWAYS kill the witness too. I've never had more than two consecutive witnesses to a crime, so it's usually a quick cleanup. One body on my horse, one on their horse, and then you tell that horse to flee, or you ride it yourself and have your horse follow you off-road. Dump the bodies in a ditch or in a nice shrubbery, and go about your business. If anything, the game is guilty of being a little too realistic. Folks are saying the system is broken, but in most cases now (and even back then), if "The Law" saw that you were involved in an incident, you were taken in for questioning or arrested. They have to take shortcuts in a game like this because nobody was interested in playing "CSI: 1899" and watching Horatio Caine dig through horse droppings with sunglasses making stupid puns. I can see it now: the deputy picks up a hat and walks over to Horatio, who's looking at a body with no head. Deputy: "Well, there's blood on the hat. Looks expensive." Horatio: "It appears that it was worth losing his head over it." (Cue Roger Daltrey's iconic "YEEEEAAAAHHHHH" scream)

Same issue here on ps4 pro with samsung ks8000 4k hdr. There's a general haziness and lack of focus on HDR. Turning HDR off looks a bit better, but still getting significant blur around the outlines. It's disappointing - looking forward to a patch.

This is why I always create a backup save before starting a new mission. It's saved my horse three times now. With some missions, you can't save during, so I try to do it before I start off on anything new, even if I'm in the middle of nowhere.

According to Rockstar (via BusinessWire) Red Dead Redemption 2 reaches $725 Million on it's first three days of launch. This makes Red Dead Redemption 2 the second highest grossing entertainment launch of all time, with Grand Theft Auto V being in first place. That's remarkable considering the Red Dead Redemption series isn't as big as Grand Theft Auto, or is it now? Sony Interactive Entertainment (SIE) confirmed that Red Dead Redemption 2 had secured the title for most ever pre-orders, most day one sales and most first three days sales. Full list of sales achievements by Red Dead Redemption 2. Biggest opening weekend in retail sell-through across all entertainment releases; Second biggest launch (three days) in retail sell-through across all entertainment releases; Biggest entertainment launch of 2018; Most pre-ordered full game ever on PlayStation Network; Biggest day one full game sales ever on PlayStation Network; Biggest first three days full game sales ever on PlayStation Network. Source(s): https://www.dexerto.com/red-dead-redemption/red-dead-redemption-2-sales-achieve-single-biggest-opening-weekend-in-entertainment-history-204880 https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20181030005459/en/Red-Dead-Redemption-2-Achieves-Entertainment’s-Biggest https://rockstarintel.com/red-dead-redemption-2/

Well, they do IMPLY sex ...

I tend to agree. Careful, slow, thoughtful, and mostly good, tends to avoid most problems.

Just spitballin' here..... How about trying the maintenance feature in the stable. I forget what it is is called but it brings you horse's levels back up. .....even if they already are, perhaps this will reset any glitch there may be in that mechanic that could be limiting the horse's sprint speed. Could also try tonics?

LOL yeah, good luck getting gamers that organized with this obvious false advertising re: HDR. You can't even get people to agree that it's something that we should care about. Which is hilarious, because if you google: "RDR2 HDR" there has been a dozen articles in all the major publications (forbes did a great job) shedding light on this issue, and how ridiculous it is. But then you come here and talk to the actual gamers... and they can't agree that being sold something that's missing a key selling feature with zero explanation is even bad, or worth worrying about. "Don't you worry your pretty little head sweetness. Nobody gives a sh*t bout your problems." Rockstar is just laughing because they're in zero danger. Laughing all the way to the bank baby!

No problem. @Cokeyskunk was pretty explicit in his request for liberal use of the Spoiler Tool once the game dropped, and I completely agree with him. It's to the point that I'm practically a junkie and look for any reason to insert it into a post. But I know that I don't want certain things spoiled for me; half the fun is finding things on my own, like

Thanks Creed for using the spoiler tool. It's getting to the point now where I have to watch out which threads I open. 😲

Yeah, kinda a different comparison you're making. People who can see strobing at high refresh rates are genuinely rare in the population. HDR is talking about a 10x boost in nits (actual brightness) It's like asking if most of the population can tell which is brighter: an indoor lightbulb, or the sun. This is not a technology that's relegated to the fringe, it's pretty mainstream, as anyone who isn't blind who occasionally goes outside and you know, doesn't only look at SDR screens, well they can tell the difference the moment they go outside. It's part of the reason that "screens" always look like "screens" to us. Most people never realize it, but the capability to simulate the colour and luminance range of real life has just been sorely lacking on colour displays for 50+ years. Now it's changed, it'll probably be the biggest advent in tech for the next 50 years too, especially as we push the nits and bitrate higher and higher.

Welcome to 2016 https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/12/high-dynamic-range-explained-theres-a-reason-to-finally-get-a-new-tv/ It is impossible to convey the HDR difference on an SDR screen, because HDR's boosts require compatible panels. This mock-up simulates some of the effect by reducing color gamut on one side, but one of the big differences is that HDR screens don't have to add an unnatural glow around a bright point to make it look "bright." Instead, in HDR, something like the sun here has its brightness contained solely within its radius; the natural brightness of the display, and contrast with other pixels right next to it, creates a natural glow effect.

Whoa there nelly, I had to create an account just to respond to all the misinformation in this thread. No offense, but even the guy trying to be balanced says: "....and yes, with the proper equipment, it does make a difference for those that can tell." What what in the what? "for those that can tell"? You mean human beings with a heartbeat, ears and eyes? How about this, can you tell the difference between a 10-watt laptop speaker and a 1000w surround system? Look around the net, video reviewers have been saying for years that HDR is the real next-gen tech in A/V. The general consensus is that 4k = yawn, but HDR = WOWIE ZOWIE. This isn't a new opinion, hate to sound like a jaded A/V snob, but this discussion is like 2-3 years old. The dynamics of the image are insane with HDR, compared to the "normal SDR". It's literally like going from a HIGHLY compressed MP3 file at 64kbps to a FLAC running at 1411kbps. The sound quality is completely different. If you've ever thought that 4k was anything to be excited about, HDR should excite you more, it creates a more immediate and discernable impact on your visual cortex. With 4k most people have to ask "is this 4k?" but HDR speaks for itself. When you see it you'll know. The content is hard to find, but it's the most impressive technological leap in video the industry has seen since the invention of the colour TV. This is the first time in over 50 years that we're actually getting more colours, more luminance, the picture looks more like reality looks when you peek your head outside your door, and far more realistic than a resolution bump could ever provide. Oh, and they don't sell 1080p TVs anymore, they haven't for years. To act like there's almost no one who has a 4k HDR tv is nonsense. Basically all TVs sold in the last 2 years except for the lowest-spec ones have at least some form of HDR implementation. It's been a staple on mid-range and high-end TVs for 3-4 years. It's not new. And yeah, if you recently bought a new-ish TV with 4k and HDR, then the biggest game of the console cycle promised HDR, then just decided to lie and %100 fake it, you'd be pissed too. They might as well have claimed it was 4k and only run at 1080p, then ask "what's the big deal" and wonder why people are upset. TL;DR It's not nitpicking, it's a big deal.

Hello guys, it was Saturday when i first started RDR2, PS4 Pro user here with TCL P6 HDR tv, so the whole day i spent in callbration, my brother was mad about me doing whole day calibration, but it was very clear that something was wrong with the picture, i’m glad that i’m not alone and dozens of people having the same problem, let’s push Rockstar to fix blur and HDR issue...

Yes I think it is fake HDR too. This is really no good implementation. You can see it, when you play with the HDR brightness slider. THe whites are bleeding out if you push the brightness, but this is necessary to enhance the level of detail. Really good implementations for me with good configuration your HDR are the last two AC Titles of Ubisoft, but only on console. Yeah. The stunning HDR of Horizon Zero Dawn. THis is HDR. So I will create now a video that discribe my problems and send it to the support of Rockstar Games.

I really wouldn't bother trying to get HDR working. It really is broken. It is actually a fake implementation. Not really HDR at all. I saw a guy analyze it and white levels for example only have 100 nits. With HDR, white should be around 1000 nits! So yeah, keep HDR off until R* decide to stop bullshitting 10 million people and implement actual working HDR.

Your firing line. An imaginary 170 degrees (left to right) while pointed down range. To "break" that means you are pointing your weapon in an unsafe direction (potentially sweeping someone with your muzzle). Everyone else should be behind that radius. ....has nothing to do with gunfights but simply the rules of the range or anytime you are firing weapons whether that's practice, hunting, etc.

That would make good sense - but I'd expect more of an in game explanation. One of the gripes I have with the game so far is just how much stuff (settings, mechanics etc) is left unexplained or without clear details.

This issue with how fuzzy RDR2 look on PS4 Pro has nothing to do with what TV you are using. It is a poorly implemented rendering technique. Period. I won't deny that this is the best looking game ever made...on a platform that shows it as it is intended, being XBOX ONE X at 4K native resolution. But, on PS4 Pro, it is one of the shittiest looking games in recent memory as rendering goes. When you have games like God Of War, Uncharted 4, Horizon Zero Dawn, Shadow Of The Tomb Raider etc., all looking way sharper and clearer than RDR2, you know that something is wrong! There is even a Sharpening slider in the game settings, but it fails to achieve any meaningful result even on the highest setting. And as for HDR, it is completely broken. It does exactly the opposite of what HDR is supposed to do. However, this is also not the cause of the problem because even with HDR turned OFF, the game still looks blurry and muddy.

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Save and reload your game. Your horse will spawn next to you.

Sony especially. Look at the PS4 thread, well over a hundred comments on it from a lot of people. How is it possible that not one of these problems was picked up in testing? Mind boggling.

You've encapsulated the absolute essence of RDR freeroam. Welcome to Red Dead Redemption!

Stunning.

I also think economy will be a factor - maybe they keep an eye on what people are making in SP and what they are spending so they can factor this into their decisions on costing etc. Let's hope we don't have another ridiculous mess like GTO where a teaspoon would cost $500k.

I want to disable it.

yess!!! that is the way to fix that bug, I did it to

you're over half way

Pay a visit to Watson’s Cabin, NW of Wallace Station along the river. Things got dark in there, but worth the trip.

I think that's the one where you have to track 10 different species with binoculars. When you use them and have an animal in your sights press the button that selects "Track". It's triangle on PS4 or Y on Xbox.

Happen to me too, it was hilarious. Too bad that little moment lead to two other people dying because they saw me loot the guy who got kicked by the horse.

I found this link helpful. With a varmint rifle with one shot to the head it should give you a perfect pelt. https://www.gamerevolution.com/guides/450389-red-dead-redemption-2-get-perfect-pelts#/slide/1

Looks like dr Frankensteins lab inside haha

Also found a meteorite:)