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Kean_1 High Plains Drifter

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55 minutes ago, BropolloCreed79 said:

The correct answer is "PC Master Race".

But since RDR2 is console-only, imma have to go with "does not matter" since the next gen is launching in the next 18 minths. (Holiday 2020, iirc).

Yeah, that was the first thought that came to my mind.

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1 hour ago, Parzival said:

Crap, that's right. I have to get a PS5. Damn this console generation for going by so quick. 😠

I'm already planning out how to justify the expense to Mrs. Creed on top of the costs we're incurring to restore a '68 MGB that's been in her family since it rolled off the assembly line.  It's going to be a total tear down to the frame.  Even redoing the electrical (so long, Prince of Darkness).

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I already told my wife about it.

We also use the system for watching Netflix, Prime and some of the other subscription apps she likes.  .....and then occasionally DVDs / Blu-Ray.  My boy also uses it for his games.  It's our entertainment system.

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I’ll explain my thought process with the current consoles: 

Before this generation, I had a 360 and a PS3. I utilized my 360 more for multiplayer games while my PS3 was used mainly for single-player games. I haven’t cared about the “Console War” since the Genesis/SNES days — and even then I owned both systems. 

When this generation came around, I didn’t have the cash to afford both systems. Xbox was clearly going off the rails with their emphasis on TV, always online, wouldn’t support used games, and including the Kinect (which I had no desire to own). Meanwhile, the PS4 was concentrating on games, supported used games, and was $100 cheaper. Not to mention that PS4 had an arguably better lineup of exclusives. 

Needless to say, I chose to go with PS4. 

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On 9/9/2019 at 6:30 AM, Enoch said:

Not to mention that PS4 had an arguably better lineup of exclusives.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, console exclusive games are an outdated concept that needs to be done away with. There's no legitimate reason that Xbox owners can't play Days Gone and PS4 owners can't play Halo.  And Sony and Microsoft owning the studios that make them isn't a legitimate reason.

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2 minutes ago, Parzival said:

Off topic question. What's with that red line between mine and Voctor's posts? 🤨

Any posts after that line are new as of the last time you visited the thread.  For example, I see a red line just above your post.

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4 hours ago, Parzival said:

I've said it before and I'll say it again, console exclusive games are an outdated concept that needs to be done away with. There's no legitimate reason that Xbox owners can't play Days Gone and PS4 owners can't play Halo.  And Sony and Microsoft owning the studios that make them isn't a legitimate reason.

🤷‍♂️ I have no control over that. The reality of the situation is that Sony has the better exclusives, therefore I chose their system. 

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Had a 360 for the longest while till the disc tray broke, and most of my 360 games are on disc, apart from Skyrim, Fallout 3 and Fallout NV. The Xbox one had been out for quite a while at that point, so it was upgrade time. Gotta say that Playstation gets spoiled by rockstar with all the exclusive perks and benefits, leaving us Xboners ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) in the dust... 

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I was PC gamer for 20 years before I went to a PS3 console. Part of the fun was building the rigs to play the games until it reached the point where every new game required a hardware or software upgrade to play it. If it wasnt a memory upgrade, then it would be a video card upgrade. If not that, then a faster processor and new motherboard. Direct X was always a PIA, As time moved on, overclocking and cooling fans were the rage. Bigger monitors, Kleptch 5.1 sound systems and on and on. It got stupid when maybe one good game a year got ported to PCs and all the rest were console games.

It was huge relief when I finally gave into console gaming. Just plug it in, throw in a disc and go to it on 60 inch screen. 

Now, it seems like I am in the same position as before. PS4 was released in 2013. My main motivation for buying it was RDR2. I did get some joy out of Fallout 4 and a little less from Farcry 5, but other than those, the rest was filler. Until the PS5 is here, I dont expect any companies will be releasing anything good until then. With the apparent death of single player, stand alone games impending, I dont know if I am in on that. 

On the other hand, I fired up the original RDR on my old PS3. You can still play RD online and without paying Sony. (Free) The servers are still working but I mostly ran across folks that didnt speak English. (The one guy that did speak English was a Ukrainian fellow. Turns out, he just wanted me to trade him some guns for information on Arthur Morgan.)

The leap between PS3 and PS4 gaming is amazing. When you play both versions of Red Dead, side by side, you can understand why horse stacking became so popular in the original game. (The horses are uncontrollable a$$holes in the original game. Shooting them doesnt make you feel bad....at all!)  If the jump from PS4 to PS5 is as striking, it should blow our socks off. Same for Xbox.

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15 minutes ago, buttlint said:

I was PC gamer for 20 years before I went to a PS3 console. Part of the fun was building the rigs to play the games until it reached the point where every new game required a hardware or software upgrade to play it. If it wasnt a memory upgrade, then it would be a video card upgrade. If not that, then a faster processor and new motherboard. Direct X was always a PIA, As time moved on, overclocking and cooling fans were the rage. Bigger monitors, Kleptch 5.1 sound systems and on and on. It got stupid when maybe one good game a year got ported to PCs and all the rest were console games.

It was huge relief when I finally gave into console gaming. Just plug it in, throw in a disc and go to it on 60 inch screen. 

My history is nearly identical to yours with the advent of PC's popularity during the 80's.   Before that was consoles of the time and arcades.  ......many, many arcades.  ;) 

My reasons for switching to the PS3 was the same.  .....tired of the bi-yearly upgrades, etc.  It's nice to be able to plop down on the couch with a controller, turn on the big screen and start gaming.  

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Now, it seems like I am in the same position as before. PS4 was released in 2013. My main motivation for buying it was RDR2. I did get some joy out of Fallout 4 and a little less from Farcry 5, but other than those, the rest was filler. Until the PS5 is here, I dont expect any companies will be releasing anything good until then. With the apparent death of single player, stand alone games impending, I dont know if I am in on that. 

Actually, there are quite a few AAA titles coming next year being developed for the current gen consoles.  Among them are titles like The Last of Us II, Watch Dogs: Legion and Cyberpunk 2077.  

The thing is, I think the backward compatibility of the PS5 will also help as PS4 games (including those currently being developed) will be playable on the new console when it arrives at the end of 2020.  ....and btw, the 3 I listed are also games that can be played solo (2 of them possibly with only that option). 

Solo isn't as dead as some of the media had thought IMO and some of those companies / franchises that bought into obviously realized their mistake when they tried to cut those elements out of their games.  Obviously some PvP-only games will still be wildly successful regardless but I believe some interpret that as evidence that MP-only is the wave of the future.  .....not in all cases IMO and I think the decisions by some large AAA developers who have strayed but came back to SP is telling.

I think there is a strong presence in the gaming community that enjoys single player and cooperative play more than some realize.  One case in point is CoD: MW.  ....not only did they come back strong with a commitment to a campaign worthy of the name, but they also decided to ditch the zombie mode to focus on a more robust coop mode that they plan to support in the coming years.  

  

15 minutes ago, buttlint said:

On the other hand, I fired up the original RDR on my old PS3. You can still play RD online and without paying Sony. (Free) The servers are still working but I mostly ran across folks that didnt speak English. (The one guy that did speak English was a Ukrainian fellow. Turns out, he just wanted me to trade him some guns for information on Arthur Morgan.)

The leap between PS3 and PS4 gaming is amazing. When you play both versions of Red Dead, side by side, you can understand why horse stacking became so popular in the original game. (The horses are uncontrollable a$$holes in the original game. Shooting them doesnt make you feel bad....at all!)  If the jump from PS4 to PS5 is as striking, it should blow our socks off. Same for Xbox.

Yeah.....   I can't wait to hear more details on the PS5.  I'm also ecstatic that I'll be able to continue to play my PS4 titles on it as well.

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1 hour ago, Kean_1 said:

Yeah.....   I can't wait to hear more details on the PS5.  I'm also ecstatic that I'll be able to continue to play my PS4 titles on it as well.

That would be nice to play the older games although I am not sure after seeing "ray tracing" (like I know what that means) I could go back to the present standards. It's like playing the original RDD currently on my PS3 with its slow response and clunky graphics. In its day, I couldnt imagine that gaming could get any better. Low and behold, 10 years later, I feel like I am playing Doom on a 486 computer. It's still a great game but I would much rather be playing a remastered version on a PS4 or PS5. The older games wont have the newer tech built into them to take advantage of the new features. I would imagine playing a PS3 game would play the same on a PS5.

You're right about some PS4 titles that look interesting. My cynic nature tells me that these games might not show up until about the same time as the new gen of consoles show up. (Remember the year delay with Red Dead 2?)  I am pretty good at waiting for things but I'm also 70 freaking years old! 

That being said, I'll probably be the old fart standing in line behind you at Best Buy. Just 2 old guys with gaming boners hoping they wont run out PS5's.😛

 

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55 minutes ago, buttlint said:

That would be nice to play the older games although I am not sure after seeing "ray tracing" (like I know what that means) I could go back to the present standards. It's like playing the original RDD currently on my PS3 with its slow response and clunky graphics. In its day, I couldnt imagine that gaming could get any better. Low and behold, 10 years later, I feel like I am playing Doom on a 486 computer. It's still a great game but I would much rather be playing a remastered version on a PS4 or PS5. The older games wont have the newer tech built into them to take advantage of the new features. I would imagine playing a PS3 game would play the same on a PS5.

You're right about some PS4 titles that look interesting. My cynic nature tells me that these games might not show up until about the same time as the new gen of consoles show up. (Remember the year delay with Red Dead 2?)  I am pretty good at waiting for things but I'm also 70 freaking years old! 

That being said, I'll probably be the old fart standing in line behind you at Best Buy. Just 2 old guys with gaming boners hoping they wont run out PS5's.😛

 

Well, I think it will be a while after PS5's release before we begin to feel these latest PS4 games feel that dated.  It will take time for the new titles designed to take advantage of PS5s features come to market.

I also notice how games tend to take a while to "ramp up" in terms of quality after a while compared to earlier titles on the same console.  It seems to take some time before games arrive that really take advantage of the new hardware.

In other words, I don't expect it to be an instant shock as you might compare PS3 titles to PS4 right now if you get what I mean.  It will take at least a little while before we get there IMO / IME.  Also, without a replacement for games like RDR2 on PS5, it will still remain relevant to me until there is.

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This is a debate I never understood. I think it comes down to preference and price. Both systems handle the same games aside from exclusives and don't really differ in terms of performance. The next gen may be different though, we will have to wait and see. 

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On 9/2/2019 at 1:19 AM, dtierney765 said:

PlayStation4 or Xbox 1?

 

To give you a true, unbiased answer to your question, which console is better for you. Both are great at what they do and with next generation coming next year, you need to start thinking about backwards compatibility, and games you might want to play in the future after you move on to next gen. If price is an issue, Xbox One is going to be your best opition with the 500 GB model coming in at $50.00 USD cheaper than the PS4. Don't get to bent up over a 1 TB hard drive for $50.00 USD more, far better to put that towards an external hard drive such as the WD My Book 3 TB hard drive currently on sale at Best Buy for $89.99 USD. Most 3 TB external USB 3.0 hard drives can be purchased for around $100.00 USD and a 500 GB internal hard drive is enough to get you by. 

 

Now if It's higher end console performance that you desire on a budget, the Sony PlayStation 4 Pro is going to be the best value for your money, coming in at $399.99. That's $100.00 USD cheaper than the Microsoft Xbox One X. The Microsoft Xbox One X is the better opition in terms of getting better hardware for your money.

 

But It's more than just price, your buying a console to game on so you need ask yourself, what games do I want to play, are they exclusive to one brand, or which games that you like perform better on which console. 

 

I currently own both the Sony PlayStation 4, Microsoft Xbox One, as well as a gaming PC and the answer to question is, whatever gaming system that is best for you.  

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