Freakshow9191 Posted October 17, 2019 Author Posted October 17, 2019 41 minutes ago, pluck3 said: no offense but , you are a griefer and deserve to be slap behind the head. good night I think you should learn what a griefer is pluck. I'm far from it. I'm a guy who almost every session puts a 3 star cougar on the back of someone's horse and runs off as an act of Goodwill and a reassurance that not everyone you meet online is a scumbag. I'm a guy that will invite a new player I hear out on game chat having trouble, and invite them to a party and help them out for a long time even at the expense of my own nightly goals going unfinished. But when an exciting game mode and challenge presents itself in a way that it was designed by the games developers, I will give it a try. 2
pluck3 Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Freakshow9191 said: I think you should learn what a griefer is pluck. I'm far from it. I'm a guy who almost every session puts a 3 star cougar on the back of someone's horse and runs off as an act of Goodwill and a reassurance that not everyone you meet online is a scumbag. I'm a guy that will invite a new player I hear out on game chat having trouble, and invite them to a party and help them out for a long time even at the expense of my own nightly goals going unfinished. But when an exciting game mode and challenge presents itself in a way that it was designed by the games developers, I will give it a try. ik that not onyl this mean he is a griefer , but what kind of ass would attack low level traders, also after hunting for 3-4hour , losing your wagon and goods to that... enjoyble Edited October 17, 2019 by pluck3
Kean_1 Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 4 hours ago, pluck3 said: ik that not onyl this mean he is a griefer , but what kind of ass would attack low level traders, also after hunting for 3-4hour , losing your wagon and goods to that... enjoyble Let's keep the responses civil @pluck3 and ditch the personal insults. You may not agree with it but @Freakshow9191 is right. This is the same as player hunts in side missions that R* offers. This option to deliver is riskier but pays more. Part of that risk is the fact that other players are encouraged to join in the delivery mission as adversaries. It even broadcasts that fact to them. This is part of the games design. The OP is not indiscriminately killing other players in this scenario but simply taking part as R* encourages others to. You may not like taking part in these roles for these missions (I know I don't) but for those who do, it's not griefing by R*s standards. If you don't want the risk, take the shorter and safer route that pays less. ......or get a larger posse to help protect your load. Your beef should be with R* for designing the delivery missions this way. 5
SimonTemplar Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 20 hours ago, DNMNetTech said: You don't have to do the long deliveries if your not ready to defend your cargo. That is why you get more for them. I'm just saying... I completely agree with you. Thing is, with my noddy wagon a local delivery is $150, a distant delivery is $187 - for $37 it literally isn't worth the extra time and risk, so I now just do local. If I had more reason to go long, I'd go long. Maybe when I have saved up for the bigger wagon it will be worth it. Hope so!
CosmoKramer Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 21 minutes ago, SimonTemplar said: I completely agree with you. Thing is, with my noddy wagon a local delivery is $150, a distant delivery is $187 - for $37 it literally isn't worth the extra time and risk, so I now just do local. If I had more reason to go long, I'd go long. Maybe when I have saved up for the bigger wagon it will be worth it. Hope so! The increase in reward for a large wagon over a medium wagon increases by a good amount. However, the % increase in reward for doing a distant delivery over a local remains at 25%. If the local delivery was low-risk rather than no-risk I might be tempted doing distant deliveries but I prefer a guaranteed income for my efforts delivering 200 units of materials and doing 4 supply runs for Cripps. Solo that is, I can however see distant deliveries being fun in with a larger posse. 1
SimonTemplar Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 16 minutes ago, CosmoKramer said: The increase in reward for a large wagon over a medium wagon increases by a good amount. However, the % increase in reward for doing a distant delivery over a local remains at 25%. If the local delivery was low-risk rather than no-risk I might be tempted doing distant deliveries but I prefer a guaranteed income for my efforts delivering 200 units of materials and doing 4 supply runs for Cripps. Solo that is, I can however see distant deliveries being fun in with a larger posse. Thanks. Yes, I have been strictly solo for my own runs, so far. I have joined a few casual posses, and have helped others run their goods in (and do some five star bounties), which is a lot of fun, a lot of fun, but I have never formed my own posse. Maybe I have latent issues surrounding the potential for rejection! 1
Netnow66 Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 On 10/16/2019 at 2:23 AM, Antonia said: Players like you made me stop distant deliveries cause i hate pvp plus i don't want anyone to disturb my sessions. I only do them when I'm in a glitched session.
Bucnation3139 Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 9 hours ago, pluck3 said: ik that not onyl this mean he is a griefer , but what kind of ass would attack low level traders, also after hunting for 3-4hour , losing your wagon and goods to that... enjoyble Hey there tumbleweed ! I just have one question , are you afraid of dying in a video game ? The reason I ask is it seems your hell bent on never having to use your guns ? Don't get me wrong I think everyone should get to play there own way but to expect everyone else to just leave you be in a shooter game is kinda backwards. Embrace it my man ! Get out there and make name for yourself. Never back down and throw everything you got at em. Carry on good sir. 2
Fish47375 Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 I`m a solo played so i don`t do long deliveries very often but when i do i know the risk i`m taking. What really makes me mad is getting 10 pelts on my horse and get the dreaded screen of being booted due to Rockstars end. Log back in and all pelts gone and no camp. Back to grinding after numerous attempts to get my camp back and get almost there and Cripps has packed up. Numerous more times to get a camp back and no good so i go to a stable and save my game. Log back in i have a camp but there goes my pelts again. Crap is getting old for sure. 2
Savage_Reaper Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 12 hours ago, Freakshow9191 said: I think you should learn what a griefer is pluck. I'm far from it. I'm a guy who almost every session puts a 3 star cougar on the back of someone's horse and runs off as an act of Goodwill and a reassurance that not everyone you meet online is a scumbag. I'm a guy that will invite a new player I hear out on game chat having trouble, and invite them to a party and help them out for a long time even at the expense of my own nightly goals going unfinished. But when an exciting game mode and challenge presents itself in a way that it was designed by the games developers, I will give it a try. Do your thing man. You aren't trolling the players after the drop is made or anything. People just want to make $625 risk free. R* could have made the $500 contested by players too. But they didn't. Seems silly to me since there is so much you can do in this game to earn money without worrying about pulling out your gun. Collector I'm looking at you........ I laugh at this because I have been drifting back to GTA these past weeks. Over there EVERYTHING is contested by other players. RDO is like Disney game compared to that. I like players like you to test me and keep my skills sharp. Right now I just feel like 90% of my RDO time is just following a way point. Nice to have a change of pace from time to time. And kudos to you for helping others out man. Good sh!t. Keep doing your thing.
We Are Ninja Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 On 10/16/2019 at 8:48 AM, Savage_Reaper said: Don't think anyone is being an asshole if they try to take your wagon. All part of the game. Now if they keep attacking you after you drop off the wagon because they are salty....well that is a whole different story. LOL. What in the name of cognitive dissonance are you talking about? Somebody saved up for a wagon, and spent hours hunting, and you choose to ruin all their work and take the spoils for yourself? Sure, the game allows it, but it's still a di*k move. If you're an asshole, that's cool, but at least have the decency to own up to it... 1
Savage_Reaper Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 Just now, We Are Ninja said: LOL. What in the name of cognitive dissonance are you talking about? Somebody saved up for a wagon, and spent hours hunting, and you choose to ruin all their work and take the spoils for yourself? Sure, the game allows it, but it's still a di*k move. If you're an asshole, that's cool, but at least have the decency to own up to it... First of all take down a few notches. He is just doing what the game allows and encourages. Nothing wrong with that. I run solo wagons all the time. Am I entitled to $625 problem free because I worked so hard hunting? No. I could make $500 BUT I want the $625. But I accept that risk. I am not entitled to anything . That line of thinking is soft and foolish to me. You may feel different and that is cool. And that is Mr. Asshole to you. 1 1
Bucnation3139 Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, We Are Ninja said: LOL. What in the name of cognitive dissonance are you talking about? Somebody saved up for a wagon, and spent hours hunting, and you choose to ruin all their work and take the spoils for yourself? Sure, the game allows it, but it's still a di*k move. If you're an asshole, that's cool, but at least have the decency to own up to it... Quick question , this person that saved for the wagon , hunted animals to fill it with all there hard work , did they use a slingshot? I'm thinking they used guns ! Why not use those guns to defend it ? How is it a d%#&k move to take it ? Or try to take it ! Shoot back man dang !! 2
We Are Ninja Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Savage_Reaper said: First of all take down a few notches. He is just doing what the game allows and encourages. Nothing wrong with that. I run solo wagons all the time. Am I entitled to $625 problem free because I worked so hard hunting? No. I could make $500 BUT I want the $625. But I accept that risk. I am not entitled to anything . That line of thinking is soft and foolish to me. You may feel different and that is cool. And that is Mr. Asshole to you. "Asshole" was your word, not mine, bro. That said, the game allows and encourages you to hunt and sell your own animals. The game encourages you to do all sorts of banal free roam events. The game encourages you to buy gold bars. You choose your own actions. "Well, the game told me to..." is a weak excuse. When your credit card bill shows up with PSN charges for gold bars, are you gonna tell your mom/wife/whoever "The game allowed and encouraged those purchases"? You do what you do because you choose to, not because you have to. Own it, Mr. Asshole. 1 minute ago, Bucnation3139 said: Quick question , this person that saved for the wagon , hunted animals to fill it with all there hard work , did they use a slingshot? I'm thinking they used guns ! Why not use those guns to defend it ? How is it a d%#&k move to take it ? Or try to take it ! Shoot back man dang !! How is it a di*k move to take something someone has worked hard for? Is that what you're asking? I'm not implying that deliveries should be smooth sailing or uncontested. I know the risk every time I set out, and I've yet to lose a delivery to other players despite their best efforts. But any player is a di*k for trying. 1
Savage_Reaper Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) Wow. You are special . I give you that. What am I owning up to? The fact that as a RDO player I have choices?? Play any way you want. I careless. However you can't get all in your feelings when someone doesn't play the same way. They are not glitching or cheating.......so who cares. I bring wagons solo all the time. And when a player tries to take it, do I cry? " NOOOO!!!! I worked so hard!!!! NOOOOO!! STOPPP!!". Oh course not. If i was like that I would have never stepped foot in online. Instead I aim my gun and fire. You know , normal sh!t. And how did you know I use Mommy's credit card? I'm only 9yrs old. Cut me some slack!!!! Sheesh!!!! I will move out one day when I'm a big boy! Edited October 17, 2019 by Savage_Reaper 1
Freakshow9191 Posted October 17, 2019 Author Posted October 17, 2019 Ninja: if you make it to a drop off and there is a gunfight going on and you fail there, you lose your wagon that way too. Is it only ok for an NPC to ruin your hours of hard work? Also, as you said, you've "never lost a wagon to other players despite their best efforts". I bet you rather enjoyed emerging victorious from such an encounter. Am I wrong? 1
DNMNetTech Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 Sounds like somebody is part of the "Everyone Gets A Trophy" group. I want and expect the challenges the game provides. If I lose my wagon.. Bummer filler back up again. When someone tries to take my wagon and I win. Yeaa! I should get the trophy. Nobody ever wins the silver metal. 1 1
Bucnation3139 Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 20 minutes ago, We Are Ninja said: "Asshole" was your word, not mine, bro. That said, the game allows and encourages you to hunt and sell your own animals. The game encourages you to do all sorts of banal free roam events. The game encourages you to buy gold bars. You choose your own actions. "Well, the game told me to..." is a weak excuse. When your credit card bill shows up with PSN charges for gold bars, are you gonna tell your mom/wife/whoever "The game allowed and encouraged those purchases"? You do what you do because you choose to, not because you have to. Own it, Mr. Asshole. How is it a di*k move to take something someone has worked hard for? Is that what you're asking? I'm not implying that deliveries should be smooth sailing or uncontested. I know the risk every time I set out, and I've yet to lose a delivery to other players despite their best efforts. But any player is a di*k for trying. Soooo, your not implying it should go smooth but folk are di&€s for trying it ? I guess I'm lost here somewhere. How long would this game last with no interaction with other players in a open world cowboy game ? I think your expecting to much to think no one should be outlaws ! All good and no bad makes for a game like Minecraft. No one will shoot you there bud !
We Are Ninja Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Savage_Reaper said: Wow. You are special . I give you that. What am I owning up to? The fact that as a RDO player I have choices?? Play any way you want. I careless. However you can't get all in your feelings when someone doesn't play the same way. They are not glitching or cheating.......so who cares. I bring wagons solo all the time. And when a player tries to take it, do I cry? " NOOOO!!!! I worked so hard!!!! NOOOOO!! STOPPP!!". Oh course not. If i was like that I would have never stepped foot in online. Instead I aim my gun and fire. You know , normal sh!t. And how did you know I use Mommy's credit card? I'm only 9yrs old. Cut me some slack!!!! Sheesh!!!! I will move out one day when I'm a big boy! My teachers said I was special too. That said, you insist that robbing other players doesn't constitute being an asshole because the game allows it or tells you to or whatever. You get enjoy doing asshole things. That's why you make the conscious decision to do them. Own it. Don't blame R* for the decisions you make. You're not "wrong" for playing within the rules of the game, but it's still decidedly antagonistic. 14 minutes ago, Freakshow9191 said: Ninja: if you make it to a drop off and there is a gunfight going on and you fail there, you lose your wagon that way too. Is it only ok for an NPC to ruin your hours of hard work? Also, as you said, you've "never lost a wagon to other players despite their best efforts". I bet you rather enjoyed emerging victorious from such an encounter. Am I wrong? An. NPC is a bot programmed to perform a specific task. You are a sentient being choosing to **** with other players. Big difference. Again, it's not wrong, but it's dickish. And yes, I enjoyed it. I play peacefully at all times. I enjoy it when other players give me a legit reason to kill them. You guys are like Scarface. Bad guys. The game needs people like you. Unprovoked hostility keeps the game interesting. Edited October 17, 2019 by We Are Ninja
We Are Ninja Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, Bucnation3139 said: Soooo, your not implying it should go smooth but folk are di&€s for trying it ? I guess I'm lost here somewhere. How long would this game last with no interaction with other players in a open world cowboy game ? I think your expecting to much to think no one should be outlaws ! All good and no bad makes for a game like Minecraft. No one will shoot you there bud ! Ooh. We're making progress now. So you acknowledge that antagonistic players are "the bad", then? 1
Kean_1 Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 AGAIN, let's keep the discussion about the game, mechanics, etc. There's no need to keep hurling insults at one another. If it wasn't clear before, it should be clear now. The personal insults stop here. 3
Vaderspupil Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 I apologize for starting this argument. When I said that I wasn't an asshole because I choose not to attack another player's wagon during their delivery mission, I didn't mean to imply that those who do choose to attack the wagon are all assholes. I get it. This game is supposed to simulate the wild west. It needs both "good guys" and "bad guys" to bring balance to the game. There can be a fine line between being a "bad guy" and being a griefer who sole reason for playing is to ruin the enjoyment of others for his own enjoyment. In this case, I do agree that since Rockstar practically wants to to attack the other player's wagon, that does not cross the line. 1 1
Bucnation3139 Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, We Are Ninja said: Ooh. We're making progress now. So you acknowledge that antagonistic players are "the bad", then? I'll let you call the outlaws what ever you want bud. But really do you really want to play rdr2o without outlaws ? Just seems kinda pointless to buy a game like this and not expect some folk to want to be bad guys. That's what makes this game so great in my opinion. Good vs bad. 2
We Are Ninja Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Bucnation3139 said: I'll let you call the outlaws what ever you want bud. But really do you really want to play rdr2o without outlaws ? Just seems kinda pointless to buy a game like this and not expect some folk to want to be bad guys. That's what makes this game so great in my opinion. Good vs bad. That's literally what my post said before it got deleted. It keeps the game fun for players like me, but I can see how it's very not fun for players that want to play in peace. My only point was play the game however you choose, but acknowledge that it's your choice. Players defend their right to play a certain way, but get upset when you point out that their being antagonistic without provocation. If that's how you choose to play, then own it. Don't blame R*. Edited October 17, 2019 by We Are Ninja 1
DNMNetTech Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, Bucnation3139 said: I'll let you call the outlaws what ever you want bud. But really do you really want to play rdr2o without outlaws ? Just seems kinda pointless to buy a game like this and not expect some folk to want to be bad guys. That's what makes this game so great in my opinion. Good vs bad. Imagine a John Wayne movie without a bad guy? That's like RDR2 without outlaws. 1
Kean_1 Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 Just now, We Are Ninja said: That's literally what my post said before it got deleted. It keeps the game fun for players like me, but I can see how it's very not fun for players that want to play in peace. My only point was play the game however you choose, but acknowledge that it's your choice. Players defend their right to play a certain way, but get upset when you point out that their being antagonistic without provocation. If that's how you choose to play, then own it. Don't blame R*. None of your posts were edited nor were they deleted Ninja...... 1
Bucnation3139 Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, We Are Ninja said: That's literally what my post said before it got deleted. It keeps the game fun for players like me, but I can see how it's very not fun for players that want to play in peace. My only point was play the game however you choose, but acknowledge that it's your choice. Players defend their right to play a certain way, but get upset when you point out that their being antagonistic without provocation. If that's how you choose to play, then own it. Don't blame R*. Yep completely respect your opinion here bud. Its just that with us the minute it pops up rivals traders can attack our hair stands up and we actually look to be attacked so there is exciting times. Again I see your point but I don't think rockstar will ever make it so passive. 1
Bucnation3139 Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 Also @We Are Ninja my community is 100 % honorable and have been since beta released. We never shoot first but I couldn't imagine playing it without outlaws. It really keeps us on the mark knowing at any time outlaws can pop up and surprise us ! We really do love it ! 😀 3
DNMNetTech Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 13 hours ago, pluck3 said: ik that not onyl this mean he is a griefer , but what kind of ass would attack low level traders, also after hunting for 3-4hour , losing your wagon and goods to that... enjoyble This kind? I mean hungry wolfs. Who sees an opportunity to play the game and thinks...Hmmm let me see what level this guy / gal is first. This is by far the easiest money making and leveling online game I have played. I remember grinding for weeks just to get a jump from level 15 or so to the next level. Grinding for several weeks for a special sword that I had to have someone else make because I wasn't a high enough level to make it myself or my skill was not in that path. When dying meant you had to gather help to go to the badlands and get the stuff you dropped before someone else got it. 3
We Are Ninja Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Kean_1 said: None of your posts were edited nor were they deleted Ninja...... With all due respect, the last post I made, in which I replied to two people, never showed up. I assumed it was deleted because it was the same time the warning was posted. I stand corrected. EDIT: Actually, never mind. I see both posts now. Edited October 17, 2019 by We Are Ninja 1
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