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Hello, first and only post, but I suffer the 0x20010006 DC issue through my ISP too. Before I get into the saves, if you can use your mobile as a hotspot, you may want to give it a try. My primary PS4 connection,100/10 DL/UL (typically runs against the cap, about 15-20% faster than advertised) is hardwired directly to a newer router and in the DMZ, then through a cable modem operating as a bridge. It DCs CONSTANTLY, but when I use my mobile hotspot (wifi over LTE) instead, the DC issue goes away... Mind you, by every objective, quantifiable measure, my home ISP is VASTLY superior to my wireless service, which leads me to suspect there is some issue with P2P structure and certain ISPs (its DEFINITELY not a QoS issue). Now, before I started using my mobile hotspot, since I had to live with constant DCs, I found ways to take advantage of a bad situation, mainly by learning what events created a save point. I gamed the sh*t out of the swamp bird plumes; selling items to a butcher is a save point, so I would sell in San Denis, go satchel hunt until the DC hit, then I would respawn back near the butcher, sell, repeat. The save point would record your core levels (and your horse's cores), so I would always make sure they were good prior to a save event. Things I found that create a save point in free-roam (pre-update): -Selling to butcher or doctor -Mail pickup at P.O. -Camp lockbox pickup -Purchases at stores/stables/Cripps (don't remember the catalog working) -Popping a new level -Popping an achievement OR resetting an achievement -Purchasing or upgrading an Abilty Card (I never tested it, but I had a theory that swapping cards may do it as well) -PvP kills or getting killed -Clearing a hideout or surviving an ambush -Getting eaten by an alligator I also remember that both gun cleaning and fast travel are NOT save points, so if you do either then DC, it basically flushes that money down the toilet. Hope this helps!

That would be nice. They have a nasty habit of moving their head right after I've lined up the perfect headshot and as I'm pulling the trigger. j/k 😉

I was a sucker for this- spent 2 gold (I think) on the hitched skirt. I'm pretty sure that I wouldn't have done so if it wasn't limited time only. I didn't want to miss it more than I wanted to have it, but the result is the same. Damn you R* and your marketing genius.

I get that it is the wild west, but there is currently no way to control a small group of idiots from ruining the game for many other people. When do we get to form a lynch mob and send 50 people after the 3 red dots on the map and make them pay for shooting some random low level guy. The law eventually tamed the wild west. In the games current state, there is no punishment for players who only want to ruin the game for others. Until this is fixed this game will be a haven for a toxic community.

That's it! I'll start: it's my last name.

As some may know, I typically create a thread whenever R* announces a new update for RDO. Since updates may possibly coming out weekly now, I thought about taking another moderators advice and making a consolidated reference thread. However, instead of compiling all the update, promo and news info in one thread, this one will have links to each of the individual ones that folks can use for reference. I will still post individual threads on these announcements where discussions can take place, etc. but I will no longer pin them. Instead I will update this one (which I will pin & lock) with links to each of the threads. Hope folks find this useful. Since this thread will be locked, please message me if you have any questions about it. List of R* OFFICIAL UPDATEs, PROMOS and NEWS: 3/3/20 2/25/20 2/18/20 2/14/20 2/13/20 2/11/20 2/4/20 1/28/20 1/21/20 1/14/20 1/7/20 12/23/19 12/19/19 12/16/19 12/13/19 12/10/19 12/3/19 12/3/19 11/27/19 11/26/19 11/25/19 11/19/19 11/14/19 11/12/19 11/6/19 11/5/19 11/4/19 10/29/19 10/22/19 10/15/19 10/9/19 10/8/19 10/1/19 9/27/19 9/24/19 9/17/19 9/10/19 9/3/19 8/27/19 8/20/19 8/13/19 8/6/19 8/2/19

Hi Lumper just noticed something about your topic ... you said you was killed at your camp , but maybe it wasnt Your camp. u can actually get into other players camp it have the same coloured icon on the minimap , also just a trick for you if you get harassed by players like that - Press Leftpad - go to Quick join - then click on story on-call mission , u decide if u want to do it or just quit the matchmaking once u got teleported away , if u quit , you will be in a new phase , new place , no one to bothers you. i understand that players griefing you kike that aint easy , i suggest you to buy the varmint rifle and lancaster repeater , they are the best for quick headshots , and just saying in my opinion if a players that try to kill me or that killed me , and neither of us did a Parley , in my opinion it mean that he want more ... or might be coming for me

That spot was my go to, shame. The Mayors house in Saint denis was a good spot. I'll poke around for more and post the locations once I confirm they are still active.

Those are the online story missions which I believe are quite buggy right now. They randomly pair you up with up to 3 other players and I believe there are currently 8 of them overall. Some you need high honor to do and some require low honor. Glad you had a change of heart. You'll be leveled up with top notch gear in no time.😀

totally burn out on the zombie genre, aliens would be cool, since they've already got easter eggs for them.

There seem to be alot of smart people in these forums. I have no problem with others who want something different than i do. If you are a person who loves killing other players you already have several options available to you in many of the pvp modes. If you are a player who wants to enjoy playing with a few close friends in a truly wonderful game world where you could do missions and experience everything at a pace you choose, you currently have ZERO options. The single player game world is single player!! I was really hoping for a world that would let me enjoy playing with friends and experiencing the content without being bothered by other players who simply want to shoot me for fun. Some people have said they havent had that problem, and that is great for you. But the community that was in the online game from the start basically ran off most of my friends in a week. So I am just going to do like someone else said and stop playing and kinda keep a check on the progress. If it improves, great, if not the player base will just continue to get smaller until not much is left. My only thing is that i was hoping for a pve co-op world, and so were many of my friends, but the game seems to be going into another direction and (to me) it does not look like something i want to be part of. I have been hopeful with most updates that fixes would be put in place for an even playing field for pve and pvp. The current fixes are nothing more than a band-aid. I already have 300+ hours in game, so if i never play it again, i have got my value.

I just wanted to thank everyone that contributed to this thread, Thank you. I let my anxiety and confusion get to me and it really had me crawling for the door, but you guys convinced me to stick it out and try a few things and as a result I made it to the other side. I figured out my mistakes, and I was able to get a foot hold in the community online and I think going forward it is going to be just fine. I had a pretty good experience last night even though I was chased twice, killed once shot in the back of the head while trying to get to my camp and eventually I was surrounded and attacked while fishing by at least 8 players, it was intense, they were on the cliff's along the Dakota River as well as on shore all around me, and across the river, I must have snoozed as I never saw them coming, and there were a lot of dots. I survived it however and it never felt like being harassed or hassled like the guys did to me the other day that tried to take my horse and were just following me to get a reaction, that sucked, but this was, well fun. I didnt mind the attack, at first I thought, are you kidding me, 8 of you to attack one new guy fishing, ? but then I killed 5 of them and made my way home safely, the remaining dots didnt even give chase. So to me thats not griefing, or whatever, its playing the game, I wish they had left me alone, but as long as I have a fighting chance and understand the situation then Im good with it. So thanks again for encouraging me to stick it out a bit longer and try a few things to make the game a little more enjoyable. Its embarrassing to get overwhelmed by anxiety and then sleep on it for two days and then feel stupid for having been aggravated or upset. I was able to retrieve my gold, buy a fishing pole, and head to a few spots where I can catch my limit in Salmon just 5 minutes from Valentine and just fished my way into the next level. I really want to try to follow the instructions they gave me in the beginning back in Blackwater about going to the various Sheriffs for work or something, but when I went to the "scales icon" in yellow, it started searching for other players, presumably because it is 2 or more players I guess for whatever it is they want me to do? Anyway it never connected or found other players so I wasn't able to do the mission, so I just went back to fishing. Hopefully that isn't a constant problem where there aren't enough people on the server or not any that are looking to do those missions as they are early missions that people probably did right away when they started playing. Thanks again, you guys really made the difference for me, this community is really strong, and I like that. I do enjoy a good fight as much as I enjoy the respect of waving and passing another player who is doing their own thing and not trying to force them to engage me, being citizens in this map we are all neighbors and citizens of a community and to me being neighbors and helping one another and protecting our neighbors is a lot of fun too, it is actually satisfying to me to see another player, say hello, then ride away to go hunting or fishing and have that be the entire encounter it just feels normal to me, like in life. There will be plenty of conflict, and mission specific stuff to do, but in the meantime in the main lobby or world that we are in together I like feeling part of a larger community, its a good feeling.

It has nothing to do with Rockstar sitting here reading these forums and more to do with what they advertised. I could understand your "But ya'll are beating a dead horse about what they "said" " attitude if the game was out of beta. When the game comes out of beta (if), then that comment makes sense to me. Until then, I look forward to the game that was advertised. What you personally enjoy isn't the issue here. What you don't seem to get is that some people don't want to play a game and get griefed. It's as simple as that. And if "Outlaw for Life" and passive mode" make you chuckle, you must have busted a gut when Rockstar stated "As part of our response to community feedback on how to minimize certain types of destructive player behavior, we’ve made some changes to the way player blips will appear on the map." I mean, "Outlaw for Life," right?

Everyone has opinions on what they are looking for in the game and I certainly can't blame people for providing their feedback to R* when they are practically begging people to do so. Currently, there is one mode and there are no guarantees that there will be private session options. Personally, all I wanted was some balance. .....consequences and risk for those who choose to grief others. Although some keep beating that drum, I never asked for a sterile environment and while there may be exceptions to that, I think many others feel the same way I do. ......and then there are those that don't. If these threads are common then it obvious to me that the topic is a concern for many. If some feel annoyed by them I'd rather see people not respond or use the ignore feature rather than belittle each other with the typical "git gud", "go play the campaign", "grow a pair" and other remarks I see. .....that gets pretty old too you know. I would think we are all better than that. The fact is that griefing was a big complaint R* received which is why the last TU was essentially focused on trying to help mitigate that. Personally, I think it was a good step forward because it introduced consequences for indiscriminate killing of others (proximity blips, parleys after one kill, parleys that affect entire posses, bounties penalties, blip range penalties, etc.). However, I recognize that there were also downsides like bounties placed on those that defend themselves and daily challenges that essentially encourage and reward random attacks. IMO, I think it's quite clear R* wants RDO to be a one size fits all solution so in answer to @Netnow66, I think that's precisely what they are trying to deliver on. They can;t get rid of griefer entirely nor the PvP element. That is as much part of RDO as PvE is. It's going to take some time to develop a balance that works for most and who knows, maybe they'll never really get it right, but I believe it's obvious that is their goal.

we can only hope!! i can't stand twitter and the twits on it. Drives me nuts when i turn on one of my favorite tv shows and it's an 'enhanced' or whatever they call it where they post the twitter feeds from people. you'll see posts from some of the dumbest people in the world lol no wonder it's dying.

I work on a two strike system. Strike one: grounded Strike two: I ship you off to Africa where you become a child soldier. Only one kid so far has struck out twice and I'm fairly certain he's the guy leading Boko Harem now.

3-4 hours in real time. ride it the majority of that time, feed it, brush it, pat it, etc. to get the bonding points. Fairly simple to catch a wild horse and have it fully bonded in that time frame.

Everything in this game wants to kill you and seemingly for no reason. Even npcs will shoot at you for bumping into them. You want NPCs to be passive too? You want the animals to stand still for you to shoot? You want to never be ambushed by NPCs as well? If I find a game I don't enjoy or is too difficult then I don't play it, not complain that it doesn't suit my needs. Yeah sure Rockstar did that promotion campaign of "fun and fair environment for everyone". But let's be real, human nature is ugly and will manifest no matter what. This isn't everyone gets a gold star for participation (maybe a little), this isn't no child left behind. You already got auto aim to help with lack of skill. Put on your big boy panties and get real.

Twitter should die it should never have been born... Nobody cares that you're eating a taco. I think people will just switch to the next new app though. I am the older part of the millennial generation which means that I don't care for any of that nonsense but I have a lot of friends who do and every third week I'm being told to get some new communication app " because that's what everybody is using" my response is no thanks and please don't text me calling is fine. That being said I'm a Dying Breed... Considering how rarely I delete apps if I followed everybody's instruction I wouldn't even have room for pictures or phone numbers...

I'm all for dealing with trolls but these 50 man "I Am the Law Squads" are also problematic. Many get drunk with their self appointed power and cause more harm than good. Had 2 morons jump me and two of my buddies the other night. We had no problem dealing with them, but some roaming " Justice Squad" thought we were griefing them. Now we are dealing with the original idiots and an additional 7 man posse. We found it funny cause they really believed they were saving someone. I have yet to have a player or group of players ruin my gaming experience in RDR Online. I run solo and with posse (depending on mood). Do I encounter idiots attempting to troll me? Of course. But that is part of what I love about online. I love the challenge . If that element was taken away...I most likely move on. Game would be extremely boring then IMO. If I want to just hunt fish and do stranger missions in peace, I go back to story. But since I already 100% the game, really wouldn't be nothing for me to do anymore. I had a 3 man posse following my posse around the map last night as we ran missions. For me it was something to do. I will gladly take the Xp of shooting people who don't get the hint. But it didn't slow down or interfere with our mission completion rate. Only thing that was annoying was the bounty I had for shooting them over and over, THAT is annoying. That whole system is broken.

Here's a link to the thread @jnaron_ngc mentioned btw:

I was not comparing rdr2 to chess I agree with you that it's more like checkers. That was a chess metaphor for getting better at anything... Best example I can give is my brother used to rant and Rave about how he good he was at Madden... I got sick of it when and of the settings check the difficulty saw that he was on easy and put him on All Pro... he started crying LOL( this is only funny because I was younger than him and he was way past puberty) I did eventually show him what I did and we set it to medium as a compromise but I did get him to stop bragging...

More interesting Co-Op missions. Bank heist and avoiding posse. Bounty system for players that grief / red dots. Train robbery. It's a great world, Its grindy, so give us proper rewards. Give us wagons to carry camp, supplies, and dead animals. Make posse camps more useful. Make a chest that posse members can contribute items to. Food, Ammo, etc. Keep the level requirements to use it but allow it to be contributed to. I could go on.

Huh, so the Donkey Lady was pretty freaky.

I believe if you change your character, you keep your gold bars and money and lose everything else. I haven't done it but other members on here have. Wait for them to confirm this before you do anything.

I’m located in the UK. And yes for now it’s a closed team as can only have 7 members to play at once and no you don’t need discord. Mainly talk on Xbox party chat but your welcome to invite a friend also if they are active. i play pretty much everyday when I have time, mainly afternoons but also mornings too. Just add my gamer tag and I will invite you all over. 😁

I feel the way you do also. Very frustrating to get messed with for no reason. Good news is they get nothing, a small amount of XP. Killing an alligator gives more. I just change lobbies by using the menu and selecting online. Then I choose another state to go to like Lemoine. You get a different set of players. This website is your answer, also. Sooo much info being shared. For quick help, Ask us on this forum and we will gladly answer. Look me online and maybe we can join up.

you can find all the song birds flying around the grasslands and hills south and soutwest of Emerald Station. Watch the sky for the small birds, they're easy to miss. sometimes you'll scare them up from the shrubs too while riding around. They're also all along the dakota river from where it empties into Flat Iron Lake up to the waterfall. ride the river edge and you'll find them sitting on the rocks and fallen down trees. random spawn, so i shoot every one i see to get a different (maybe) spawn the next time by. Riding from the waterfall at morning to the lake, then camp at the lake and ride back to the waterfall the next morning (usually takes a full day to ride that) got me all the song birds and other birds i needed, except the owl.

Sometimes I'll use griefers to my advantage. Last night I had a blue dot catch me off guard when he lassoed and hogtied me. I used that as an excuse to go after him with my dual wielded sawed offs to complete that daily challenge. This was not any easy thing to do since you need to be close range to do damage. He picked me off a few times with a repeater as I charged him, But I was persistent and did get him twice. The coward then decided he had enough and parlayed me. I was able to finish off the rest of the challenge in a Dispatch Rider free roam event.

Blocked 0 players since launch roughly 250h Playtime and lvl263. My advice ? Parley and move on or change session. After the update im almost always alone anyways but if some dude wanna shoot me i parley and move on no problem. I see No reason what so ever to defend myself as long as i get a bounty for it. Boring as hell

No worries..... While I wouldn't expect most randoms to be as friendly, there are plenty here that are. .....and I would seriously try to tap into that resource if I were you. Sorry to hear about the lack of response from R* I'm assuming you went through the Support website and not the Beta Feedback website, correct? Here's the link: https://support.rockstargames.com/categories/115001624507?redirect_lang=en_us&_ga=2.2861492.54410651.1552419130-1719606522.1525287356 I would submit another ticket if I were you. I have submitted several myself and all but one request was met with a response within an hour or two. The other was the next day. They say to expect a <24 hr wait time. As long as you include the correct email, they should be sending you an automated confirmation and then a notification of reply. Not sure what happened with the horse then. Griefers find ways around things in this game. Now, I'm not trying to be harsh here but personally, I would have never let them get that close to me. I would have been gone before they were even in range to see me. If (let's say) that did happen to me, and all things being equal, I would have reported them for disruptive behavior, blocked them and simply logged out of the session and into a new one. Deny them the satisfaction which (unfortunately) you fed into. I can't stress how important it is to have situational awareness in this game. Especially when playing alone. The trick is to let other people be their target. They tend to prey on the easy marks and targets of opportunity. Just don't be one of them.

Fyi.... Crouching doesn't make you invisible. As long as people are within 150 meters of you, they can see you on their radar and will know exactly where you are at. Your camp is supposed to be a safe zone but there are ways that other players can still grief you when your white flag is up. As far as your horse, open the Free Roam menu and then the Stables option. There are a couple settings in there where you can choose who has access to your horse. If you select “Me Only” then you should be the only one who should have access. You can also disable the option for other players to be able to lead your horse as well. This is one criticism I have of R* as they don't tend to publicize features or how some of them work. Every now and again they will publish an article about it and then it's an "ah ha" moment. I'll give you a few of my own personal suggestions I use..... Download the RDR2 Companion app. It's available for both Android and Apple devices. Essentially what this does is provides you with a real time view of the main map that you can zoom in & out on, see other players, objectives, waypoints, etc. It's an excellent tool to help keep an eye on other players, check your routes, etc. Take note of where red dots are and stay far away from them. As long as you are not wanted, you won't be visible to them until they are within a relatively close range. This gives you ample time to adjust your route accordingly and/or vacate an area before they arrive. Spawn into a region that is furthest (or at least further) away from where you intend to hang out. For example, if I'm going to go hunting in the Big Valley (NW part of the map), then I usually spawn into the New Hanover or Lemoyne. When you choose to join by region, the game seems to load everyone into that same general area. Once you spawn in, you need to call your horse, plot a quick route and get out of the immediate area ASAP. Once away from the are, just keep an eye out for red dots and other players that may wander into your radar range. Use the Posse Recruitment sub forum here on this site to find players you can join up with and/or the Posse page. You might be surprised just how many folks are willing to help a new player out and there is always more safety in numbers. IMO / IME, RDO is much more enjoyable and rewarding when playing with friends. You also have the option to block them. I don't know how that works on XB1 but on PS4 the option to block will take you to their PSN profile. There you can open the menu item with the 3 dots and choose block. This will supposedly keep them from joining future games with you and in the event one tries to continue the harrassment via messaging, etc., they will not be able to if you have them blocked. I have literally just under 400 players on my block list. Probably 2/3 of that are from RDO alone. .....most I will (what I call) proactively block. These are people that I notice who are harassing others or acting suspect. Since the title update, I will tend to block most red dots regardless. There is a way to escalate your Support ticket if you don't like the response provided by the initial interaction. What was their response btw? The camp icon colors are a little confusing now. There are two different shades of blue. After the TU, I was confused by this as well. If you are on PS4, hit me up, I don't mind spending a session showing you the ropes and helping you hunt. My PSN name is Kean_1. EDIT: Just saw your reply that you're on XB. Still, I would look for some company in that sub forum I mentioned.

Have you opened a trouble ticket with R*? https://support.rockstargames.com/categories/115001624507?redirect_lang=en_us&_ga=2.29410295.990841326.1552406576-1719606522.1525287356 Not everyone is experiencing disconnect issues or if they are, the frequency in which some are seeing. I'm not sayin it's not an issue as I've had them myself (albeit rare), but you need to make sure to submit a report to R* Support if you want them to know about your case. I'm not making any guarantees they'll fix it for you but you really have nothing to lose by doing it. Welcome to the forums by the way.

I would like to clarify to everyone what my actual feelings are on this game at this point. 1.I really think that free roam should be left intact with as much player interaction as possible and do away with the bounty for defense. Most but not all missions should stay in free roam. If they mess with it too much they will loose those who like it that way. 2. Because this is same engine as gtao they should allow people a choice of lobbies. Solo, Invite only, possey and possey groups. So those that wanted to grind up a little before they play with big boys they could. So that is why I made the statement I am probably gonna shelve this awhile and check back later. Not because it is a bad game or I am a wuss which I probably am somewhat. Just want to clarify who I really am.

If you like pvp so much why don't you go play battlefield then. Sounds like same logic to me.

This whole discussion on the topic in a nutshell:

Well, we all have opinions, To me, Im a total noob here but it seems to me that they could just make a free roam for those who want to hunt and fish and explore and punish those who go out of their way to aggravate other players and kill them repeatedly. So you would have the option to join an actual free roam, roam and do what you want but with consequences, if you harass people and bother them while they are enjoying their game then you get kicked, fined, jailed and eventually temporarily banned, etc.. But if they want to play like that then have that available, make an anything goes free roam, so those who do enjoy the conflicts and want to hit and run and whatever else, then they should join the "Anything goes" free roam. That way, if I join Anything goes, I expect to be hassled, attacked, ambushed, etc.. and I am ready for it. Also, if they are bored and want more players, they should'nt chase away new players who are trying to learn the game and have less than level 10, almost no weapons, potions, etc.. just unprepared players not ready for a fight being attacked just isnt a good game I get that killing people is part of the game, but pulling me (level 6) off my horse while im trying to read a menu while the game is paused is just nonsense, there is no sport or fun in that, especially for me, Im just trying to learn the game, and its tough enough without worrying about stopping to read something or look at the menu's or whatever. Killing a noob on his horse while he struggles to understand how this all works, is not "game play" it is some person being a jerk. Dont call them griefers, call them a-holes. I wish R* would address it in a real way, with $$ if you partake in this behavior with new players then it will cost you, kill a player 10 levels lower than yourself in free roam or any player under level 25 pay a fine. As hard as it is to make money in this game, I say hit them where it hurts, and this behavior goes away, with a few exceptions, you always have some people who do things to irritate everyone else, it is the nature of the internet, key board warriors, in real life they would never act this way and for good reason, but a little anonymity and they turn into serial A holes.

Yes please! Tribal outfits!!!

This was my suggestion to R* today, "Hey R* if you want to keep the free roam only mode the perhaps when players break the law, like killing another player, Then start making your sheriffs and bounty hunters = to level 200. You want to be outlaw then go for it. Please take Auto Aim off."

I see folks say this a lot, here and other places, and I maintain the position that giving everyone a toggle (with a cool down) does nothing to diminish that enjoyment if the status is not flagged on the map or HUD, but kept private. If anything, I could argue that it enhances this "excitement" and adds a layer of strategy and complexity to the game. Literally the only downside is that Griefers will have to actually put in some effort to grief. Cheap, easy thrills are their stock in trade, and eliminating their main avenue of aggrieving would be a step in the right direction for all parties.

I know how R* works, but PVE players buy in game currency as well. There are quite a few surveys that show short term players spend more money on in game items because they don't play enough to win the games to earn those items. Sounds more like PVE player than a PVP player to me. GTA has private lobbies, ghost mode, passive mode and it is one of highest grossing games of all time, totaling well over 6 billion dollars. They achieved that by making everyone happy, because that keeps people playing the game. How much gold will people buy if they are playing Anthem instead of RDR2?

If you stop what you were doing to fight back or leave the server you are allowing another person to dictate how you play the game. I do not concede to people, so this system doesn't work for me. I don't feel we should need to jump servers every time some tool decides to gun me down as I'm skinning a buck. We should have the option to jump into one server and play with like minded people. And that goes for both PVE and PVP players. The game and player base are large enough to support full servers for both sides.

I must have missed the historic part of the battle of Wounded Knee when Custer was shot in the back of the head by a varmint rifle when exiting a cutscene.

Pardon my overthinking....Here are my thoughts: Let's think back to our playground days for a minute. Imagine you're at the playground in the sandbox minding your own business and some kid, who want's you to play basketball throws the ball at your head. You tell him you don't want to play, point out there are other kids on the court that would play with him and go back to your sandbox. He plays with them, loses, so he's back throwing the ball at your head again, trying to make you play with him. At some point an adult is going to step in and separate the 2 of you. RDR2 is a large playground where some people just want to play in the sand box while others want to play something else. R* needs to be the adult and separate the 2. The literal definition of the statement "to grief" is to annoy, bother or be a general nuisance. So, with that in mind, anyone who goes out of their way to attempt to force someone to play this game one way, when there are clearly many ways to play the game, is giving grief and has earned the label griefer. That being said, R* is more at fault than anyone because if there were private lobbies none of this would even be a discussion. PVP and PVE are 2 separate entities with 2 completely different mindsets and need to be treated as such. Until that happens, us players will spend more time talking about the game in threads like this instead of playing it.

Or Rockstar could just come up with a real solution, stop players from wanting to grief.

On this point i couldn't agree with you more. I have submitted to R* quite a few times. Im sure they are just putting them in trash bin as soon as they find out who sent them. It is too bad in my opinion as this game has great potential and maybe they will fix it someday I dunno. I am a big fan of GTAO but in that game at least they let you grind up to a respectable level before they threw you to the wolves so at least it would be fair. Oh well enough rant. Again I apologize I didn't mean to offend, just had a few rough sessions and am freshly p****d off.

Thanks for advise. Gee why didn't I think of that. I think that all forms of play can be accommodated. There are grivers(back shooters), and there are true pvp(no auto aim) and there are content players. So we should all have to adapt to one form of game play in your book which will not be enough of a player base to keep R* developing. Im sorry but I paid just as much money as you to play this game as advertised which is not what I am receiving at this point. So why the hell do you think that I should be forced to play your way versus mine.

Nothing against vaping but the general "cloud" community around it just put people like me off from it. I would much rather smoke and have a dry cough than feel 30% better and look like one of those douche bags. No offense to anyone who does vape because I could put money on it that you know the people I am referencing and you don't like them either.

When you start a session do you have your free thoroughbred with you/available? If not you have the same problem i had. I resolved it by going into the relevant menu and selecting heal horse. I have no problems now.

I've been playing a lot of Rocket League lately with my boyfriend and I really like the new soundtrack they added this month. May as well post that